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    CARTEL CAPITULATION WATCH


    The only market even more predictable than the gold capping was the PPT coming in to take the DOW back above 10,000, just as it looked ready to flush itself into the toilet. The DOW leaped 88 to 10,077. The only explanation for the gain is the Working Group on Financial Markets (PPT) said no way we are going to allow the DOW below 10,000 going into the Presidential debate on Thursday night. It certainly wasn’t an easing of the oil price which had the DOW roaring. Oil closed at $49.90, up another 26 cents per barrel, after taking out $50. It certainly wasn’t this disappointing news either:


    10:00 September Consumer Confidence reported 96.8 vs. consensus 99.5
    Prior reading was revised to 98.7 from 98.2.
    * * * * *


    The DOG was dragged higher, closing at 1870, up a weakish 10.


    Crude oil was the talk of the town, as it should be after taking out $50 per barrel. The latest stimulus for the price of oil advancing:


    NIGERIA REBEL CHIEF DECLARES ARMED STRUGGLE FOR OIL--AP
    NIGERIA REBEL LEADER SEEKS CONTROL OF OIL REGION--AP
    NIGERIA REBEL LEADER SAYS OIL WORKERS ARE TARGETS--AP

    * * * * *


    The bullish oil news was countered by the Saudis:


    Saudi Arabia to raise oil prod uction to 11Mbpd from current 9.5bpd --


    Dow Jones


    The increase will take effect within weeks, according to an unnamed Oil Ministry official. November WTI crude is trading off the overnight highs, quoted last at $50.10.
    * * * * *


    Whether the Saudis can deliver is debatable. Even if so, word is the refineries who refine the heavy Saudi oil are already running flat out.


    Mahendra this weekend:


    WORLD EVENTS


    Tuesday or Wednesday of this week does not portend good for the world. Some kind of natural disaster could befall us, though my vision is not clear concerning where it will occur and of exactly what nature it will be. Let us therefore be mindful and pray that the week may smoothly pass.


    He came as close as you can get:


    13:27 Follow-up: earthquake impact appears to have been minor in SF; may have been stronger in central CA
    We heard several reports that an earthquake just hit SF, but that it appeared to be felt only modestly there. We have also heard that it was stronger to the south of SF, and Dow Jones is reporting that a strong earthquake struck central California.
    * * * * *
    13:53 Follow-up x4: USGS now lists Parkfield earthquake at 6.0
    Newswires indicate that there are no reports of injuries or damage thus far. The USGS site indicates that there have been more than 30 aftershocks, with the strongest being 5.0.
    * * * * *
    One of the reasons the US consumer is struggling:


    Health Insurance Costs Rise Faster Than Wages


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Health insurance premiums for workers are rising around three times faster than their wages, and health costs eat up a quarter of earnings for more than 14 million Americans, according to a survey on Tuesday.


    While benefits are being cut, health insurance premiums are rising, the report from the nonprofit Families USA found.


    "Working families were squeezed by runaway health care costs over the past four years," said Families USA executive director Ron Pollack.


    "As a result, workers are paying much more in premiums but are receiving less health coverage, wages are being depressed; and millions of people have lost health coverage entirely."


    The cost of health insurance premiums rose by nearly 36 percent on average from 2000 to 2004 in 35 states, said the group, which bills itself as a nonpartisan watchdog on health care issues. Average earnings rose just 12 percent over the same time.


    The Families USA report found that health insurance plans provided by employers are covering fewer health services and workers are paying higher deductibles and copayments.


    "Family health premiums paid by employers and workers rose from $7,028 in 2000 to $9,320 in 2004. The average amount paid by workers for this coverage rose from $1,433 to $1,947 during that period -- an increase of 35.9 percent," the group said in a statement.


    "And, the number of Americans who had total health costs that consumed more than one-quarter of their earnings rose from 11.6 million in 2000 to 14.3 million in 2004 -- an increase of almost 23 percent. The overwhelming majority of these people (10.7 million) had health insurance."…


    -END-


    "What, Me Worry" Secretary Snow will have none of it. All is well:


    Snow says no risk of sharp U.S. economic slowdown


    WASHINGTON, Sept 28 (Reuters) -


    Treasury Secretary John Snow on Tuesday said that, notwithstanding weaker consumer confidence, he did not think the U.S. economy was at risk of a slowdown.


    "I think that's very unlikely," Snow said in response to questions on CNBC television. "I think we're going to continue on a good path with the American economy."


    Snow was interviewed from Reno, Nevada, where he met local businessmen to say the economic recovery remained on solid footing….


    -END-


    While copper sold off a bit today on Comex, the copper shorts are gradually being decimated:


    Sept. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Copper rose for the second day in London to its highest in five months as falling inventory and rising demand spurred hedge funds to buy the metal used in electric cable and water pipes.


    Inventory monitored by the London Metal Exchange had its biggest one-day fall in 7-1/2 years yesterday. Consumers are withdrawing metal from storage amid surging Chinese and U.S. demand.


    ``We are seeing fund buying coming into the market supported by strong fundamentals,'' said Angus Macmillan, an analyst at Prudential Bache International in London, in a telephone interview.


    Copper for delivery in three months on the LME rose $15, or 0.5 percent, to $2,968 a metric ton at 11:11 a.m. local time, its highest since April 19. It gained 1.4 percent yesterday.


    Copper inventory in LME-approved warehouses fell 0.5 percent to 94,275 tons, the exchange said in a daily report, extending this year's decline to 78 percent. The stockpile fell 3.7 percent yesterday, the biggest drop since April 1997.


    -END-


    An interesting hedge move:


    11:31 HNR's Venezuelan affiliate puts on 2005 crude oil hedge (16.41 +0.42)
    Harvest Vinccler says it purchased a WTI crude oil put at $44.40, at a cost of $3.95/barrel, putting an effective floor price at $40.45. HNR says the put has the economic effect of hedging approximately 10.4K barrels of oil per day.
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    Sleuthing on The World Gold Council:


    Hi Bill:


    As you know the World Gold Council Website includes a Statistics section that among other things has a Table of World Gold Holdings. This table is quite useful in that it supposedly lists the Official Gold Holding of each reporting nation.


    The archive at the WGC site goes back to March 2000. The Table of World Gold Holdings was updated every month from March 2000 until Dec 2002 except for July 2000, April and August 2001 and December 2002. In other words with the odd exception there were monthly reports.


    Then things changed. During 2003 there were reports for only 3 months, February, July and December and this year we've only had reports for March and July.


    Now there may be an innocent explanation for this change but at a time of great stress in the global monetary system, at a time when Official statistics of all sorts are either obviously doctored or completely suppressed, we might justifiably wonder if something more sinister is going on.


    Bill, as you pointed out several weeks ago in a Sunday Special Midas, the Official Gold Holdings as listed in these WGC reports are obviously incorrect. The numbers do not add up or more precisely they add up to more than they should. Perhaps our Official friends are becoming aware that the game is ending and the less said the better. The less forensic evidence the better.


    Cheers from Auckland


    More on the World Gold Council:


    Bill,


    While this hackneyed story gets repeated once again I was surprised to learn the IMF wants to sell part of ITS 85 billion in gold? Isn't that about 6,641 tons at $400 an ounce? Is that a mistake? I wasn't aware they owned that much. This story always entertains me because of the simplicity of the deceit. If they truly wanted to forgive poor countries indebtedness why not merely GIVE them the gold and let them pay back the IMF with their local fiat. Then they would be free to rebuild their economy with a gold backed currency. Oops, that might piss off a few banksters.


    James McShirley


    Lease rates heads-up from Rhody early this morning:


    Kitco finally updated their lease rate chart. There has been nothing since last Friday, and that data was rubbish, as it showed no change in silver, platinum or palladium for all terms.


    Not bloody likely, so I have not commented on them lately.


    Now we see a rise across all terms in silver so that silver lease rates are double to triple those of gold. This is more normal.


    I notice that rates for gold declined across all terms. I think this is signalling a breakout for gold as borrowers abandon the leased gold market in anticipation of a rise in the metal's price.


    We shall see if this trend continues for gold. The rise in silver on the other hand (and the increases across all terms rose by about one third, so it's significant) signals that the entities that are trying to cap silver still think they can, using leased metal.

    Regards,
    Rhody


    Goldman Sachs is really going out on a limb these days. For three years they were neutral to bearish as gold rose from $252 to $430. Unreal! Today they really stuck their necks out with a bold call :


    09:00 Goldman recommends buying gold stocks ahead of G7 meeting on 10/1
    Firm believes any statement supporting flexibility in currency, mainly those aimed at Asia, could be construed as bearish for the dollar, and consequently positive for gold prices. Goldman sees Q4 forecast at $420/oz. for gold, mainly due to expectations of $1.32 price for euro/dollar.

    * * * * *


    Deutsche Bank was one of the defendants in Reg Howe’s suit against The Gold Cartel for gold price manipulation. They are pros at it. Now this:


    Deutsche Bank under investigation - BBC News


    Germany's biggest bank - Deutsche Bank - is being investigated on suspicion it may have manipulated its balance sheet.
    The investigation is in connection to a long-running legal dispute with the now-defunct Kirch media group.
    Deutsche Bank is alleged not to have set aside provisions to cover damages and compensation that a court ordered it to pay to Kirch.
    Kirch imploded in 2002 shortly after Deutsche's former boss questioned its creditworthiness in a TV interview.


    Violation


    A probe had been launched against "Deutsche Bank officials", a spokesman for state prosecutors said, without providing any further details.


    Story from BBC NEWS:


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/business/3693122.stm


    Published: 2004/09/27 09:34:34 GMT


    -END-


    Since we are on the subject of Germany, some MARVELOUS input from one of our GERMAN Café members:


    dear sirs,


    just seen in german bloomberg tv an interesting interview concerning the POG with martin siegel (peh investment).
    (28.09 at ca. 15.30 local time)


    some highlights:


    - sees fair value at minimum 600 without the central bank sales (which are used to suppress pog - example gold sales of BOE)


    - price target if central banks sell only 250-300 t/year ->500 usd


    - he says that fed and the US would "punish" every other central bank who
    would buy gold or even stop selling any further gold in fear of getting
    out of control of the dollar devaluation.


    - the rise in chinese demand


    - he raised even some of the 3rd world issues concerning gold price
    suppression (situation in SA as example).


    cant remember ever seen such explicit lyrics in german bloomberg before.


    i really appreciate your work!
    regards


    alexander scheid


    Now that is commentary on the real gold market, not the drivel we receive here in the US from CNBC and Bloomberg. Martin Siegel sounds like GATA.


    The gold shares went on a tear on HEAVY volume, confirming last week’s dramatic breakout. The XAU jumped 3.07 to 99.78, while the HUI rocketed up 7.89 to 223.89.


    The HUI is running


    http://bigcharts.marketwatch.c…&o_symb=hui&freq=1&time=8


    While the big cap gold shares are on a roll, many of the exploration companies continue in the doldrums and can’t catch a bid. This has to change in the near future. It already has for one of the most outstanding gold exploration companies anywhere in the world – that being Seabridge Gold, a huge GATA supporter and a firm who has accumulated 14 million+ ounces of higher cost gold resources. Therefore, Seabridge(SA) will be one of the HUGE winners when gold takes out $430 for good. It is already shaping up for a monster run to the upside, closing today at $3.40, up 23 cents or 7.3%.


    Seabridge


    http://new.stockwatch.com/swne…utilit_snapsh_result.aspx


    Taking the lazy man’s way out on my daily outlook. Same as it has been for three weeks. A review of my ending MIDAS commentaries over that period of time:


    9/7 I expect gold and silver to take off from here in the weeks ahead and will be dead wrong if that doesn’t happen. Will I be shocked? Course not, we know who is out there doing all they can to keep this from happening and why. My bet is the physical market is going to give them fits and overpower them as September rolls on.


    9/8 The incredibly bullish news brought to your attention over the past many days has not gone away. Neither have the Arab, Chinese and Indian cash market buyers. The case for owning old is going off the charts. I will be stunned and dead wrong if gold and silver are not FLYING by next week!


    September 9 - Gold $397.90 down $1– Silver $6.14 down 2 cents


    There is every reason for both gold and silver to be headed for the moon. ONLY the constant price-capping interference of The Gold Cartel and friends is keeping their prices from doing so. By next week we ought to see more signs the cabal is in trouble and gold and silver on their way to MUCH higher levels.


    9/10 No change from me. The gold fundamentals remains a "10+++++." They don’t get any better, as brought to your attention the past few weeks. PRICE ACTION MAKES MARKET COMMENTARY. When gold does make its move, many of those fundamental reasons or market developments will be cited as reasons why.


    9/13 Gold and silver share investments remain THE historic investments of a lifetime and few seem to notice or care.

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    The John Brimelow Report


    Tense moment for gold


    Tuesday, September 28, 2004


    Indian ex-duty premiums: AM $ 7.44, PM $ 6.46, with world gold at $409.10 and $410.50. Continuing above legal import levels, despite the rise in gold and a weakening of the rupee. Bad news for bears.


    TOCOM traded the equivalent of 34,644 Comex lots, 115% above yesterday, with the active contract up 16 yen, back to the Feb 2003 peak. World gold rose $1.55 above the NY close. Open interest rose materially – the equivalent of 3,046 Comex contracts – to 89,552 Comex; but according to Mitsubishi, the Trade house net short fell further, which would appear to suggest that the "general public" long decreased. It is obvious from the TOCOM website that there is a public short position: this could be a support to the world gold price in the immediate future. (Gold traded 29,600 contracts in NY on Monday: open interest fell 905 contracts.)


    The yen was weak today, and metal prices in general strong. TOCOM Platinum traded about 63% more by value than gold: there is only a slim oil products futures market in Japan. The new Japanese Financial Services Minister has asserted that bank demand deposit insurance by the State will be abolished next year. This is a situation worth monitoring.


    The 12.5 tonne increase in gold holdings in August by the Argentine Central bank is interesting. Argentina, by virtue of the large quantity of euro bonds in the hands of ungovernable private sector creditors, has a big problem: litigation in overseas courts. Other states – like Arab countries – subject only to attack by foreign governments – might be expected to take heed.


    AS ScotiaMocatta candidly observed, on Monday


    Zitat

    "Gold …began to work its way higher, influenced by oil …The metal reached the 410.00 where it ran into a wall of selling from New York dealers."


    UBS notes


    Zitat

    "Comex option expiry did its job yesterday and kept gold between $405 / 410 as we expected."


    To an equity-trained observer, the cheerfulness with which these observers stipulate to price-management is startling. The constantly gold -bearish Barclays Capital Research says:


    Zitat

    "The positive sentiment towards commodities is sweeping the white precious metals higher although gold is underperforming the rest of the complex… gold is not benefiting similarly given its poor physical fundamentals;"


    The only identifiable "poor physical fundamental" is Central Bank selling.


    Nevertheless, the widely-heralded presence of substantial speculative hedge funds, in the context of $50 Oil, adds some interest.


    JB

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    September 28 - Gold $412.30 up $3.60 – Silver $6.56 up 5 cents


    Gold Surge Capped By Cabal, Shares Soar, CHINA: 1700 TONNE GOLD PURCHASE!


    Zitat

    "Unlike an animal, man is not told by drives and instincts what he must do. And in contrast to man in former times, he is no longer told by traditions and values what he should do. Now, knowing neither what he must do nor what he should do, he sometimes does not even know what he basically wishes to do. Instead, he wishes to do what other people do -- which is conformism -- or he does what other people wish him to do -- which is totalitarianism." --Viktor Frankl


    Another one of those bullcrap days. My exhilaration over gold and silver lasted a half-hour at most this morning. It soon became very clear it would be another Gold Cartel cap, cap, cap, kill precious metals excitement day.


    The gold opening was spectacular as it opened above $412 and above all technical resistance. What it made it so special was the call was for only $1.50 higher. There was enough buying pressure to bring gold in over $3 higher with it abruptly running up $4 and change. What we should have seen was some kind of pullback to check this early buying and then a surge into new high ground as the day wore on.


    As always, this was not to be the case with the heinous Gold Cartel waiting to go into action. After the first half-hour of excitement, gold sold off and never even challenged its opening highs of $413 bid. It’s sickening to watch this over and over again and to have no one in the mainstream gold world even mention this continuing occurrence. What a bunch of useless dorks!


    Now that I have that off my chest, possibly some FANTASTIC news to bring your way. There is a good shot we will be receiving extraordinarily bullish gold news next week, FOLLOWING the G-7 meeting this week. From one of GATA’s most reliable sources, one which I only hear from 2 or 3 times a year and whose reliable information has borne out over time:


    Hi Bill


    My friend at the European bank told me that the Bank of China is going to announce within the next week or so of a purchase plan of 1,700 tones of gold.


    It seems to me strange that they will announce about a future plan hence boosting it’s price and paying more. They are too smart for that. More likely to my mind is that if this announcement will take place, it will be about past purchases.


    It does confirm well your Stalker source information.


    ***


    Naturally, it would be more bullish if the Chinese still have that amount to buy. However, hard for me to imagine the Chinese would ever announce such a move beforehand, UNLESS they want to use it as blackmail against the US. GATA warned the Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert on May 10, 2000 the US was vulnerable to such a possibility in the future. I mentioned the same in GATA’s Executive Summary that was sent to President Bush on his private fax line in late May 2001. Vet Café members will recall me notifying our followers that I received a letter from Lawrence Lindsay, his economic advisor at the time, which was postmarked the same day the fax was sent to him by one of the President’s boyhood friends from Midland, Texas.


    However, not to be dismayed if the gold was already purchased. It would mean The Gold Cartel has really dumped an inordinate amount of the gold supply they have left to keep the gold price where it is. AND, after this Argentinean news, it should set a tone for other central banks to consider accumulating gold and scare the buggers out of the dummy western central bankers who have been stupidly dumping it at dreadfully low prices, having been conned by The Gold Cartel.


    One more point, GATA has long predicted the trend of central bank gold selling would turn into one of central bank buying.


    Argentina cenbank ups gold reserves to 55.1 tonnes


    LONDON, Sept 28 (Reuters) - Argentina's central bank bought more gold in July and August, taking its gold reserves up to 1.77 million troy ounces by the end of August, or 55.1 tonnes, according to data on the bank's website.


    The bank confirmed in August that it had bought 42 tonnes of gold in the first half of 2004 to diversify its reserves after the end of the peso's one-to-one peg against the dollar in early 2002.


    The bank's website showed that gold reserves were at 1.72 million ounces (53.5 tonnes) in July and 1.37 million ounces (42.6 tonnes) in June.


    -END-


    A negative for the day was the large gap left from last night’s Comex close. The Gold Cartel has shot to close these gaps time and time again.


    Going into the election, the cabal has become even more restrictive regarding the amount they allow gold to gain in a particular Comex trading session. We don’t even come close anymore to having the $6 Rule implemented.


    The gold open interest fell 905 contracts to 264,477.


    Silver couldn’t get out of its own way after coming out of the gate surging. While gold did drift back closer to its highs for the session, silver closed near its lows. The odds of it closing the gap it left today are around 50-1 in favor.


    The silver open interest rose 339 contracts to 84,847. The downer was the Comex warehouse stocks rose 619,397 ounces, putting a damper on yesterday’s significant drawdown.


    The dollar fell .16 to 88.13, while the euro rose .30 to 123.15.

    THE INTERVIEW WITH GOD



    I dreamed I had an interview with God.


    “So you would like to interview me?” God asked.


    “If you have the time” I said.


    God smiled. “My time is eternity.”
    “What questions do you have in mind for me?”


    “What surprises you most about humankind?”


    God answered...
    “That they get bored with childhood,
    they rush to grow up, and then
    long to be children again.”


    “That they lose their health to make money...
    and then lose their money to restore their health.”


    “That by thinking anxiously about the future,
    they forget the present,
    such that they live in neither
    the present nor the future.”


    "That they live as if they will never die,
    and die as though they had never lived.”


    God’s hand took mine
    and we were silent for a while.


    And then I asked...
    “As a parent, what are some of life’s lessons
    you want your children to learn?”


    “To learn they cannot make anyone
    love them. All they can do
    is let themselves be loved.”


    “To learn that it is not good
    to compare themselves to others.”


    “To learn to forgive
    by practicing forgiveness.”


    “To learn that it only takes a few seconds
    to open profound wounds in those they love,
    and it can take many years to heal them.”


    “To learn that a rich person
    is not one who has the most,
    but is one who needs the least.”


    “To learn that there are people
    who love them dearly,
    but simply have not yet learned
    how to express or show their feelings.”


    “To learn that two people can
    look at the same thing
    and see it differently.”


    “To learn that it is not enough that they
    forgive one another, but they must also forgive themselves.”


    "Thank you for your time," I said humbly.


    "Is there anything else
    you would like your children to know?"


    God smiled and said,
    “Just know that I am here... always.”


    -author unknown

    @alle


    Einfach unglaublich!


    Die 412.- sind geschafft, und das obwohl das Cabal stark mitgeholfen hat dies zu verhindern, indem gegen Ende des Goldhandels, der Dollar wieder einmal mehr auf wundersame Weise stark angestiegen ist.


    Früher hat diese Methode meistens geklappt. Dollar kurz vor Goldhandels-Schluss raufzuziehen. Und wenn der Dollar danach wieder runter rauschte, konnte Gold darauf nicht mehr reagieren, weil der normale Goldhandel ja bereits ruhte.


    Heute jedoch schien diese Cabaltaktik beim Gold nicht zu funktionieren!


    Einfach Toll


    ThaiGuru



    PS: Wer diese Zusammenhänge im Handelverlauf Gold, und Dollarkurs nicht erkennen kann, oder erkennen will, macht doch gar nichts, ich habe früher zuerst auch immer an Zufälle geglaubt.

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    U.S. Sept. Consumer Confidence Index Falls to 96.8 From 98.7


    Sept. 28 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. consumer confidence unexpectedly fell in September for a second straight month amid concerns about slow hiring and rising oil prices that may damp spending and restrain third-quarter growth.


    The New York-based Conference Board's consumer confidence index fell to 96.8 this month, from a revised 98.7 in August. The drop was paced by diminished optimism about current economic conditions. The outlook for the economy over the next six months improved.


    Zitat

    ``Confidence is stuck and going nowhere,'' said Christopher Low, chief economist at FTN Financial in New York, before the report. ``It's symptomatic of an economy that is no longer accelerating.''


    Oil prices reached record levels in August, the economy added 144,000 jobs, fewer than the average 204,000 in the year's first six months, and August retail sales fell 0.3 percent. The Conference Board survey showed Americans more pessimistic about their job prospects this month, suggesting spending will be slow to pick up. Confidence may also affect the presidential election.


    weiter.....


    http://quote.bloomberg.com/app…d=aJfwX97RjRS4&refer=home

    Reuters bringt heute diese Gold bullische Meldung!!!!!


    Die Argentinische Zentral Bank baut ihre Gold Vorräte weiter aus!


    Der heutige Präsident Argentiniens, hatte bereits vor den letzten Wahlen versprochen zu einem Goldstandart zurückzukehren. Das hat heute Reuters jedoch wohl vergessen zu schreiben. Die Meldung dazu hatte ich vor den letzten argentischen Wahlen bei W:O bereits einmal gepostet.


    Wenn er seine Versprechen wirklich einhält, werden wir zukünftig wohl noch einiges mehr an positiven Gold Meldungen zu lesen bekommen.


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru


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    Argentina cenbank ups gold reserves to 55.1 tonnes


    Tue Sep 28, 2004 05:47 AM ET


    LONDON, Sept 28 (Reuters) - Argentina's central bank bought more gold in July and August, taking its gold reserves up to 1.77 million troy ounces by the end of August, or 55.1 tonnes, according to data on the bank's website.


    The bank confirmed in August that it had bought 42 tonnes of gold in the first half of 2004 to diversify its reserves after the end of the peso's one-to-one peg against the dollar in early 2002.


    The bank's website showed that gold reserves were at 1.72 million ounces (53.5 tonnes) in July and 1.37 million ounces (42.6 tonnes) in June.


    Spot gold was trading at $410.25/411.00 by 0941 GMT, compared with $408.70/409.50 late in New York on Monday.

    Disclaimer!


    Möchte alle Leser im Thread wieder einmal darauf hinweisen, dass Meldungen zu einzelnen Minen, nicht als Kaufempfehlung von mir anzusehen sind, soweit ich nicht speziell darauf hinweise.


    Diese Postings dienen der Information.


    Kaufentscheidungen, sollten nur nach genauen eigenen intensiven Abklärungen, über Chancen, und Risiken eines speziellen Investment in Gold, und Silberminen Aktien vorgenommen werden, zu denen Meldungen von mir hier im Thread veröffentlicht werden.


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

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    Silverado: Goldaderexploration des Nolan Goldprojekts macht Fortschritte


    28. September 2004 - Vancouver, BC - Canada - Fairbanks, Alaska - USA SILVERADO GOLD MINES LTD. OTCBB: SLGLF / Frankfurt: SLGL / Berlin: SLGL


    Ein Trend mit einer bedeutenden Gold-Arsen-Antimon Anomalie innerhalb des Nolan Gold Projektes wurde anhand von durchgeführten Analysen entnommener Bohrproben im Rahmen des 2004er Goldader Explorationsprogramms bestätigt. Die Karte dazu finden Sie hier: http://www.silverado.com/proposedtrenches.htm


    Das laufende Goldader-Explorationsprogramm dient der Suche nach der Quelle der bisher bereits gewonnenen 140.000 Feinunzen Seifengold im Felsgestein des Nolan Creek Tals.


    Die Arbeiten in 2004 umfassten bisher die Entnahme und Analyse von rund 300 Bodenproben und 19 Kilometern elektromagnetischer Messungen. Diese Interpretation dieser Daten dient der Festlegung von Bohrzielen. Die gefundenen Arsen- und Antimonvorkommen gelten als Begleitstoffe von Goldvorkommen und dienen als wichtige Hinweisgeber auf das Vorkommen von Goldadern. Die analysierten Proben bestätigen die bisher bekannten Anomalien und zeigen neue potentielle Ziele für zukünftige Aktivitäten. Die elektromagnetischen Untersuchungen bestätigen die Fortsetzung des auf dem Solomon Shear Gebiet vorhandenen Trends bis in das Nolan-Gebiet hinein.


    Ein Programm gezielter Grabungen dient dazu, zukünftige Bohrlöcher anzusetzen und zu positionieren.


    (Quelle: Silverado)



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    28.09.2004 12:14:


    Gold- und Ölpreise steigen an


    Der Goldpreis stieg gestern an. Auch der Kurs der Futures für Öl der Sorten Light Crude (leichtes US-Öl), für Heating Oil und der führenden Nordseesorte Brent Crude zog im New Yorker Terminhandel (Nymex) an. Die fundamentalen Öldaten stimmen mit dem langfristigen Aufwärtstrend überein.


    Damit haben die Öl-Futeres den US-Handel mit einem neuen Rekordhoch verlassen, erreichte aber nicht die Marke von 50 Dollar. Im asiatischen Handel kletterte der Ölpreis am Dienstagmorgen über die Marke von 50 Dollar und notierte bei 50,15 Dollar. Hintergrund sind neue Unruhen in Nigeria sowie die Nachfrage nach Leihöl aus den strategischen US-Beständen, die größer ausfällt als erwartet.


    Weitere Ursache für den Ölpreisanstieg bleiben die Schäden, die der Wirbelsturm "Ivan" anrichtete und damit neue Versorgungslücken auslöste. Zwar hatte sich "Ivan" bei Erreichen des Festlandes abgeschwächt und die Anlagen können wieder in Betrieb genommen werden, dennoch wird es voraussichtlich noch etwas dauern, bis die Raffinerien wieder ihre volle Leistung bringen, da der Schaden größer ist als erwartet. So fehlen täglich 2,5 Mio. Barrel aus dem Golf von Mexiko. Nach "Ivan" brach in der Nacht zum Sonntag mit "Jeanne" der nächste Hurrikan über Florida ein. Keinen Einfluss hatte hingegen der jüngste Hurrikan "Jeanne", da er die Öl- und Erdgasgebiete im westlichen Golf von Mexiko nicht beeinträchtigte.


    Aufgrund der schlechten Versorgungslage infolge der Hurrikans wollen US-Raffinerien vom Energieministerium Rohöl leihen. Der Rückgriff auf die strategische Reserve wird von Marktbeobachtern negativ aufgenommen, da dies zeigt, dass die traditionelle Versorgung unzureichend ist. Die Chance für einen Preisrückgang sehen Experten erst bei Öl-Lagerbeständen deutlich oberhalb von 300 Mio. Barrel, wogegen sie sich derzeit nur auf etwa 270 Mio. Dollar belaufen.


    Das OPEC-Kartell hielt am 15. September in Wien seine reguläre Ministersitzung ab, um über eine Fördermengenausweitung sowie eine Erhöhungen des Preisbands zu beraten. Hierbei beschlossen sie, die Förderung ab November um 1 Million Barrel pro Tag zu erhöhen. Bedeutende Marktauswirken wird dies aber nicht haben, da die tatsächliche Fördermenge rund 2 Mio. Barrel pro Tag über der offiziellen Förderquote liegt. Die Diskussion über ein neues Preisband wurde ergebnislos abgebrochen.


    Am 03. Juni trafen sich die OPEC-Minister im libanesischen Beirut zu einer Sondersitzung, um über die weitere Ölversorgung zu beraten. Dabei beschloss das Kartell, die offizielle Fördermenge von derzeit 23,5 Million barrel per day zum 01. Juli um 2,0 Millionen und ab 01. August um weitere 0,5 Millionen auf 26,0 Millionen Barrel zu steigern. Inzwischen ist das Kartell an der Grenze seiner Förderkapazitäten angelangt und hat seine Förderung gegenüber Juli sogar reduziert. OPEC-Präsident Purnomo Yusgiantoro erwartet sinkende Preise aufgrund einer Überversorgung von 2,7 Millionen Barrel pro Tag.


    Das Umfeld für hohe Preise besteht weiterhin. Die Aussichten auf deutlich sinkende Preise sind somit gering. Ursache sind die steigende Nachfrage und die anhaltende Terrorangst. US-Heimatschutzminister Tom Ridge hatte gewarnt, El Kaida bereite im Vorfeld der Präsidentschaftswahlen am 2. November neue Anschläge in den USA vor. Auch die anhaltenden Terroranschläge auf Öleinrichtungen sprechen in der langfristigen Betrachtung für einen fortgesetzten Aufwärtstrend. Der Unsicherheitsaufschlag kann sich nur langsam auflösen, wenn sich die geopolitischen Umstände entspannen.


    In der kurz- und mittelfristigen Betrachtung verhindert jedoch die angespannte Lage um die US-Heizölversorgung einen deutlichen Preisrückgang. So mehren sich die Sorgen über eine Heizölverknappung zum Winter. Die weltweiten Raffineriekapazitäten für die Verarbeitung des Rohöls sind zu gering, um den steigenden Bedarf zu decken. Infolge der häufigen Raffinerieausfälle in den USA gerät das Land zunehmend in die Abhängigkeit von Öl- und nun auch von Heizölproduzenten im Ausland. Der Bau neuer Raffinerien wird sehr viel Zeit und Geld kosten.


    Längerfristig besteht die Möglichkeit steigender Preise, da der Ölbedarf in den kommenden Jahren rasant wachsen wird. Neue Märkte wie China verursachen eine zusätzliche Verknappung des Ölangebots. China benötigt für sein beeindruckendes Wirtschaftswachstum viel Öl. Zudem wächst im Reich der Mitte der Autoabsatz beträchtlich und dementsprechend auch der Benzinbedarf. Durch seine Verschwendung ist das Reich der Mitte, die mittlerweile sechstgrößte Wirtschaft der Erde, zum zweitgrößten Ölverbraucher aufgestiegen. Allein in den ersten acht Monaten 2004 importierte China rund 70,63 Millionen Tonnen Rohöl, was einem Zuwachs von 39,3 Prozent gegenüber dem Vorjahreszeitraum entsprach.


    [B]Der Kurs des Euro stieg von 1,2299 Dollar am letzten Handelstag auf nun 1,231 Dollar. Mitte Februar erreichte der Euro ein Rekordhoch von 1,2927 Dollar, und liegt heute über seinem Kurs bei der Einführung der Gemeinschaftswährung am 04. Januar 1999 von 1,1886 Dollar. Ein schwächerer Dollar macht das in US-Dollar angeschriebene Gold und Öl für Anleger aus anderen Währungsräumen billiger und damit attraktiver. Allerdings führt er auch dazu, dass die OPEC nichts gegen die hohen Preise unternimmt, da die Einnahmen des Kartells an Wert verlieren.


    Feinunze Gold: 410,70 Dollar (+1,00 Dolllar)


    Feinunze Silber: 6,550 Dollar (+0,125 Dollar)


    Light Crude: 49,64 Dollar (+0,76 Dollar)


    Brent Crude: 45,65 Dollar (+0,53 Dollar)


    Heating Oil: 1,3724 Dollar (+0,0103 Dollar)


    Die unterschiedlichen Preise werden durch die Qualität des Öls gerechtfertigt. Je höherwertiger das Öl ist, um so kostengünstiger ist seine Weiterverarbeitung.

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    Novagold: Langfristig sehr interessant

    (Siegel Investments) Novagold Resources (AMEX: NG, Toronto: NG.TO, Kurs 8,20 kanadische Dollar) meldet für das Maiquartal die vollständige Übernahme von Spectrum Gold. Durch diese Übernahme verfügt Novagold allein im Galore Creek Projekt über Ressourcen von 5,2 Millionen Unzen Gold, 69,4 Millionen Unzen Silber und 2,7 Millionen Tonnen Kupfer. Eine Vor-Durchführbarkeitsstudie soll bereits im ersten Halbjahr 2005 abgeschlossen werden.


    Im Donlin Creek Projekt hat sich Placer Dome (NA) verpflichtet, bis zum 14. November 2007 eine Produktionsentscheidung für eine jährliche Produktion von über 600.000 Unzen vorzulegen und bis dahin 32 Millionen Dollar in das Projekt zu investieren. Vorläufige Schätzungen gehen von einer jährlichen Produktion von 1 Millionen Unzen aus, so daß der Anteil der Novagold an der Produktion auf jährlich 300.000 Unzen ansteigen könnte. Die Goldressourcen des Projektes belaufen sich aktuell auf 7,6 Millionen Unzen (Novagold Anteil), so daß sich auf der Basis einer jährlichen Produktion von 300.000 Unzen (Novagold Anteil) eine Lebensdauer der Ressourcen von 25,4 Jahren ergibt. Derzeit geht Novagold davon aus, daß die Verarbeitungsanlagen bereits ab 2007 erstellt werden. Im Rock Creek Projekt soll nach dem Abschluß der Durchführbarkeitsstudie im Jahresverlauf 2005 eine Produktionsentscheidung getroffen werden. Derzeit ist eine jährliche Produktion von 100.000 Unzen bei Nettoproduktionskosten von 200 Dollar je Feinunze vorgesehen.


    Im Ambler Projekt hat Novagold die Optionen einen Anteil von 51 Prozent von Rio Tinto zu erwerben. In dem Projekt konnte bislang eine Ressource von 417.000 Unzen Gold, 31,6 Millionen Unzen Silber, 1,9 Millionen Tonnen Zink und 1,5 Millionen Tonnen Kupfer (jeweils Novagold Anteil).


    Beurteilung: Novagold ist vor allem wegen der umfangreichen Goldressourcen von jetzt über 15 Millionen Unzen ein interessantes Investment bei einem steigenden Goldpreis. Bis 2010 strebt Novagold eine jährliche Produktion zwischen 500.000 und 700.000 Unzen an, was durchaus realistisch erscheint. Allerdings müssen noch erhebliche Vorleistungen erbracht werden bis die Projekte in Produktion gehen können, so daß Novagold gezwungen sein wird, weitere Kapitalerhöhungen durchzuführen.


    Außerdem muß eine Vorlaufzeit von etwa 2 Jahren bei einer Investition in Novagold einkalkuliert werden. Novagold eignet sich damit als langfristig orientierte Beimischung für ein nordamerikanisches Explorationswertedepot, die jedoch nur bei einer deutlichen Preisschwäche zu Kursen unter 5 kanadische Dollar zugekauft werden sollte. Novagold bleibt eine solide Halteposition im Explorationsbereich. Unser Kursziel liegt bei 12 kanadischen Dollar.


    Novagold wird in Deutschland an den Börsen Frankfurt und Berlin-Bremen gehandelt. Die WKN hierfür lautet 905542.



    Siegel Investments ist Herausgeber der Zeitschrift "Goldmarkt". Autor Martin Siegel ist Berater des PEH Q-Goldmines-Fonds.



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    28.09.2004


    Tournigan Gold spekulativ kaufen


    Schmider Investments


    Die Experten von "Schmider Investments" empfehlen die Aktie von Tournigan Gold (ISIN CA8915651035/ WKN 898464) zum spekulativen Kauf.


    Branchenkreise würden in letzter Zeit verstärkt auf Grund des nachhaltigen Goldbooms von einem steigenden Interesse der deutschen Anleger berichten, nicht nur in australische, asiatische, südamerikanische, kanadische und afrikanische Goldminentitel zu investieren, sondern auch nach europäischen Anlagealternativen im Miningbereich zu suchen. Bekanntermaßen seien lukrative Rohstoffressourcen in Westeuropa äußerst rar gesät, so dass interessante und vielversprechende Goldexplorer hier eher als Ausnahme betrachtet werden könnten.


    Die kanadische Explorationsgesellschaft Tournigan Gold scheine sich in den letzten Wochen immer mehr zu einem höchst anspruchsvollen und renditeträchtigen Goldtitel zu entwickeln, der exakt dem Darstellungsprofil entspreche, das von der deutschen Investorengemeinde zunehmend nachgefragt werde. Tournigan Gold sei ein reinrassiges europafokussiertes Goldunternehmen, alle Projekte der Gesellschaft lägen in West bzw. Mitteleuropa. Die Liegenschaften in Nordirland und in der Slowakei befänden sich zudem in einem fortgeschrittenen Explorationsstadium.


    Diese Profilierung als ausschließlich europaorientierte Minenfirma sei schon ungewöhnlich und faszinierend genug, doch gewinne die Bedeutung der Projekte zusätzlich an Brisanz, seitdem bekannt geworden sei, dass in beiden Liegenschaften mit hohen Goldvorkommen zu rechnen sei. Damit stehe Tournigan Gold als einziger wirklich substanzieller europäischer Goldexplorationstitel konkurrenzlos im Angebotspektrum internationaler Juniorexplorer.


    Diese Ausnahmestellung dürfte bald zu einem regelrechten Run auf dieses Papier führen, komme Tournigan Gold doch sehr stark dem Bedürfnis des europäischen Investors nach einer heimatlichen Rohstoffaktie mit hohem Kurspotenzial entgegen. Anfang Oktober sei nach den Worten des Unternehmens mit dem Beginn eines Diamantgrabungs- und bohrprogramms im Schürfgebiet Kremnica Süd in der Slowakischen Republik zu rechnen.


    Jüngste Geochemische Studien seien ausgesprochen erfolgreich gewesen. Das Curraghinalt Gebiet in Nordirland stehe kurz vor der Produktion. AMEC, ein internatonal anerkannter Spezialist für technische Studien, werde dabei helfen, die erste operierende Goldmine in Irland in Betrieb zu nehmen. Alle Engineering Studien seien äußerst hoffnungsvoll gewesen.


    Die Experten von "Schmider Investments" empfehlen, die Tournigan Gold-Aktie sehr genau zu beobachten und stufen die Aktie in den nächsten Wochen und Monaten als unbedingten spekulativen Kauf ein.

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    SILVER STANDARD RESOURCES INC.


    TSX VENTURE SYMBOL: SSO
    NASDAQ SYMBOL: SSRI


    SEPTEMBER 28, 2004 - 09:01 ET


    Silver Standard Receives Approval for Nasdaq National Market Listing


    VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA--(CCNMatthews - Sept. 28, 2004) - Silver Standard Resources Inc. (TSXV:SSO)(NASDAQ:SSRI)(BERLIN:858840) is pleased to announce the approval of its Nasdaq National Market listing application. Silver Standard's shares will commence trading on The Nasdaq National Market on October 12, 2004 under their existing trading symbol, SSRI.

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    IMA EXPLORATION INC.


    TSX VENTURE SYMBOL: IMR
    OTC Bulletin Board SYMBOL: IMXPF
    FRANKFURT, BERLIN SYMBOL: IMT


    SEPTEMBER 28, 2004 - 09:01 ET


    IMA's Drilling Intersects 39 Meters Grading 485 g/t Silver at Connector Zone


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    The ratio gold silver from 1800-1900


    By: Chaize Thomas, Dani 2989, Dani 2989

    This is the beginning of a succession of articles about the history of the gold / silver ratio. The objective is to discover what this ratio should be (hypothetical) between gold and silver. The current ratio is between 60 and 75; it seems to me to be a temporary abnormality of the market. I shall explain during these articles the various manners to approach this famous ratio. The ratio of 15 is generally put forward by numerous authors and 15 is rarely justified and explained. In these works, I hope to discover a natural ratio between gold and silver and to help to better understand the various factors which influences it. The researches tracks are numerous and I begin with those who seem to me the simplest to be used, which is the historic track. I shall study the other periods of the history later.


    I. Legal report.


    Numismatic is an interesting track to know the legal report between gold and silver. However, I do not intend here to make the work of a numismatist, it is just a question of determining the legal ratio between the gold and silver coins.


    - The sovereign.


    The golden coin weighs 7.988 grams (of which 11/12 of gold).
    The sovereign amounts to 20 schillings of silver.
    One schilling is 5.23 grams of silver.
    For 20 schillings, we get 104.6 grams of silver.
    Thus for 104.6 grams of silver, we get 7.32 grams of gold.
    The monetary relation between gold and silver, established according to the law of 1816, gives a gold / silver ratio of 14.29.


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    - The Franc, or Louis d’or.


    In France, the law of March 28th, 1803 fixes the French monetary rules. The Franc is represented by a coin 1 franc, she contains 5 grams of silver in 900/1000.
    155 coins of 20 gold francs (louis d’or) are needed to have 1 kg and 1 kg of silver represent 200 francs.
    3100/200 = 15.5
    The legal ratio between gold and silver is 15.5, in France, according to the law of 1803.
    This represents the legal report between gold and silver, in England and in France, at the beginning of the 19th century.


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    - In the United States of America, the legal report between gold and silver was also 15.5 at this time.


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    II. End of the gold silver standard.



    The 19th century saw the fall of the very old ratio of 15 between the price of gold and silver.
    The previous three centuries passed by with a ratio of 15 and even lower (globally). I shall explain this period with more details in a next article on the same subject.
    The ratio of 15 seems to be a sort of natural balance between gold and silver. This balance is broken at the end of the 20th century with the depreciation of silver.


    This depreciation is due to several factors :


    - The surrender of the gold silver standard, silver not being any more a metal standard. This factor seems to take it on all the others.


    - The increase of silver production in the United States.


    - Sales of silver in Germany, which additionnaly have a very strong psychological impact.
    Germany is in a different situation from other countries because it moves from the silver standard to the gold standard. It is a unique event because the other countries move from the gold silver standard to the gold standard. Germany thus has big inventories to sell, but the threat of the sales presses more on the prices than the sales themselves.


    - The sales of silver by the Scandinavian countries.


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    During 2/3 of the 19th century, the ratio of the price of gold to silver is close to 15. This ratio is imposed by the legal report (as that of France, England and the USA). The end of the century is marked by a surrender, almost generalized, of the gold silver standard by all countries. It is the death-blow for silver, the market acts at the same time on supply (increase of production) and demand (surrender of the gold silver standard). It is at this moment that silver loses its crown of laurels.


    This article is the first piece of a puzzle. Once all the pieces joined, we shall have a precise picture of the ratio of the price between gold and silver, then we shall better understand this ratio in the past, today, and we can more easily imagine what it will be tomorrow.


    Chaize Thomas



    Dani2989@voila.fr


    Posted Tuesday, September 28 2004


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    Diese Meldung dürfte BHP Billiton Aktionäre erfreuen!


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    China signs multi-billion dollar mining deal


    International mining company BHP Billiton has ratified its largest ever contract to supply iron ore to China.


    Under a joint venture deal, signed Tuesday in Western Australia, four Chinese steel mills are taking a stake in the Jimblebar mine in the Pilbara region of Australia.


    The mills will buy 12-million tonnes of iron ore annually for 25 years, in a deal worth an estimated $US9-billion.


    BHP Billiton's iron ore president, Graeme Hunt, says additional sales commitments involving another mine will be worth an extra $3-billion over the next decade.


    Mr Hunt said: "More production means more jobs, it means more royalties, and all the flow-on effects of having a very buoyant industry.


    "The kind of investment that we'll have to make to keep up demand is very large. That will create more jobs right across the state and I think that's a good thing."



    28/09/2004 22:32:24 | ABC Radio Australia News

    yoyo


    Schick mir bitte ein Probeexemplar!


    Zu Deiner gestrigen Frage


    MMM (3M) die ehemalige Minen Aktien Gesellschaft, ist nach wie vor die am stärksten gewichteste Aktie im DOW. Mit dieser Aktie wurde der DOW hochgedreht, wenn es der FED genehm, und dem PPTeam oder den Primery Dealern gerade von Nöten erschien .


    Du hast mir gestern eine Freude gemacht mit Deiner Meldung "Nach unten durchbrochen". Wenn die 3M richtige Probleme kriegt, gibts für die FED nur drei Möglichkeiten. 1. Dafür zu sorgen, dass die Gewichtung schnellstmöglich geändert wird. 2. Die Aktie gleich ganz aus dem DOW nehmen zu lassen.


    oder


    3. Dem DOW zuzuschauen wie er zusammen mit MMM massiv einbricht!


    MMM hat dank der "Hilfe" der FED den Aktien Crash in 2001 völlig unbeschadet überstanden. Das lag nur zu einem Teil an der bewiesernermassen guten Firma 3M selbst. Die Bewertung ist nach wie vor völlig unrealistisch, und gefährlich hoch! Auf dem Langzeit Chart sieht alles noch ganz normal (manipuliert) aus. Das könnte sich aber in nicht allzuferner Zukunft gewaltig ändern.


    Hier ein Langzeit Chart:


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