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Original von Homm13
Überzogene Bedeutung der Börsen, Mega-Mergers, Geld- und Machtkonzentration in immer weniger Händen, Korruption als Massenphänomen. Das gabs doch schon oft, allerdings immer in einem anderen Umfeld. Der Untergang fast aller Kulturen setzte immer dann ein, wenn die Balance zwischen Eliten und der Masse aus den Fugen geraten war. Die Vergangenheit zeigt uns die Tendenz in der Zukunft
Geschichte wiederholt sich nie in der gleichen Art, allerdings kommt sie immer in den gleichen Mustern wieder...Das philosophische Wort zum Mittwoch

Genauso ist es.

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Original von Eldorado
Der link ist ploetzlich verschwunden sehe ich gerade.
Da kommt eine andere Story.@GB
Wir haben es oft diskutiert das die POG Daten von Kitco und Comex oft merkwuerdig schwanken und der aktuelle Preis den wir sehen manipuliert sein kann.
Die nutzen alle Tricks und drehen an den Zahlen wie sie es brauchen.IMO
Das PPT kann so etwas leicht anstellen, weisst du wer oben sitzt und die Computer fuettert. ?
Ich habe es oft erwaehnt, wenn nun jemand einige tonnen Gold will dann kriegt er das Gold nicht fuer den angezeigten Preis.Gruss
XEX
Ja, aber dieses Reutersmeldung - dich nicht mehr da ist
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Original von Eldorado
http://www.reuters.com/article…ews/idUSL2724139820070227NEW YORK -- A computer glitch has been understating the price of gold by thousands of dollars per ounce since 1995, the New York Mercantile Exchange announced today in a statement on behalf of its Comex division.
A price-monitoring program installed at the Comex that year somehow has been registering only half the buy orders for gold while doubling the sell orders, the exchange said. As a result, the exchange said, the closing gold price reported daily has been understated by about $800 per year cumulatively and gold will open Wednesday not at Tuesday's listed closing price of $666.30 but at $9,663.30.
The exchange said that traders who believe that they have lost money since 1995 because of the computer glitch should refer to the "force majeure" section of their exchange contracts, which exempts the exchange from responsibility for computer programming errors.
Versteh ich nicht.

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Original von Homm13
Das wird deren größter Coup in der Familiengeschichte, ja da gebe ich Dir RECHT, dann gibts wieder mehr Werte für deren Vermögen. Gehört denen dann evtl. sogar fast der ganze Planet?? Fast nur deshalb, weil ein paar GOLDBUGS gibts ja noch
Aber eins muss man denen schon lassen, sie sind wesentlich intelligenter als 99,9% der Erdenbewohner...P.S Mit Gold hat der Baron das erste Vermögen verdient (Schmuggelei) und mit Gold/Silber wird er den größten Coup der Menschheitsgeschichte landen...
Du sagst es: Die Intelligenz - damit hat er gewonnen und seine Familie gewinnt es weiter. Handlungsweisen auf extremer komplexer Intelligenz beruhend sollten auch belohnt werden.
Den Skrupel zu haben, dafür Millionen Menschen in den Tod zu schicken, ist allerdings etwas völlig anderes. Das ist pervers und krank.Aber wir kommen wieder völlig vom Thema des Sräds ab.
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Original von Homm13
Ich weiß, denn umsonst haben Zentralbankiers die GOLDDECKUNG nicht aufgegeben, aber das scheint sich bis zu manchen Herrschaften noch nicht rumgesprochen zu haben...wer hat jetzt da wohl eher SCHLEUKLAPPEN auf, wenn man das wichtigste Argument, nämlich die nicht vorhandene GOLDDECKUNG, immer ausblendet ??!
Und einmal, zweimal, dreimal dürfen alle raten, WER das meiste physische Gold am Markt akkumuliert. Ich beziehe diese Betrachtung auf PRIVATPERSONEN.

Sie haben es doch richtig gemacht: Der Welt den Megabären aufgebunden und am Ende werden sie finanziell den BIG COUP landen - den größten in Ihrer 300+jährigen Familienhistorie.
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H Y P E R I N F L A T I O N
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Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge
February 27, 2007 (Madlen Read – AP Business)
Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge
NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become overinflated.
The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, signaled a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily rising stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of trading in several years.
AntiSpin: "But first, the wall," is how we finished our news on Thursday. "The Wall" is an obstruction that the stock markets need to hit at top speed before the housing market rate cut bail-out can happen. But what, we wondered, would cause the markets to slip?
The most popular speculation on what happened today, about why the DOW slipped over 500 points to close at 416, is that Chinese stock market investors care what Greenspan has to say, that speculators there were frightened by Greenspan's "possible recession" call yesterday. Then, later in the day, bourses fell around the world fell in sympathy. Risk was re-discovered, as usual, all at once. This is plausible, but unsatisfying. Talk of China's over-heated stock market has been floating for months, so a correction there can hardly be called a surprise. The only surprise, in retrospect, was not the Chinese market correction but Greenspan's recession talk itself.
I downplayed Greenspan's prognostication yesterday, noting his lousy record in the other direction. He famously failed to see the recessions that came in the early 1990s and in 2001. But I forgot what iTulip's own Real DOW analyst taught us a year ago.
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Three Warnings
In a 3/7/97 article in The Wall Street Journal re. the then recent use in a 12/5/96 speech of the term "irrational exuberance" by Alan Greenspan, chairman of the Federal Reserve Board in Washington, the authors wrote: "Fed chairmen usually don't say much about the stock market. In fact, the only notable earlier Fed warnings date to 1929 and 1965."[1] (The Fed was founded in 1913.) Other reports agree [2]-[4].
In a discussion of these three "warnings that the stock market was overpriced," Shiller [5] wrote "It appears that Fed chairmen reserve public statements about market pricing for periods of extreme mispricing."
Evidently, in the more than 90 years since the Fed was founded in 1913, a Fed chairman has only 3 times publicly warned that the stock market was overpriced.
Fed or even ex-Fed talk about recessions and corrections is exceedingly rare and rarely idle.
What did the Fed see to inspire the Fed to trot out Big Al to issue a rare public warning? Historically it means the markets are extremely overpriced. But not only are U.S. markets are overpriced this time around but global markets, too. Perhaps the logic behind predicting a possible U.S. recession near the end of 2007 was to get a response short term–everyone "knows" recessions get priced into markets six to nine months before the event. And as the global economy is dependent on U.S. demand, talking about a U.S. recession might have the effect of talking down global the markets, something a negative "irrational exuberance" type comment about the U.S. stock markets will not accomplish.
The motive? A rapidly deteriorating housing market and tightening credit markets pose a major danger to the economy and financial markets, of a self-reinforcing process of collapse. Rate cuts are needed. But without a clear and present danger, the Fed cannot lower interest rates; given current inflation levels, until the markets hit The Wall, rate cuts will be seen by bond markets as reckless, and the currency markets will hammer the dollar, increasing inflation premia.
Markets need to hit The Wall–suffer a temporary correction–before the Fed can begin the program of three quarter point interest rate cuts that Goldman Sachs on February 15 told clients were due in 2007.
Tomorrow, the bleeding is likely to continue–if this theory is correct–at a more modest pace, say, down another couple of percent. If I am wrong, and Greenspan's prediction and the correction today are coincidental, then something more significant may be going on, such as with the U.S. and Iran.
In other news, we've started a special forum for iTulip members who are interested in trading notes on their experiences with Crooks Currency Options. So far, so good.
War der "Börsenabsturz" gewollt? Seine Begründung: Jetzt kann die Fed die Zinsen wieder senken, um die implodierende Immobilien- und Spekulationsbubble zu "retten". Da müssen sie die Zinsen aber stark senken, damit das überhaupt einen Effekt hat. Das "kostet" den Dollar. Sehr gut für Gold!
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Original von Eldorado
@GB""Ein Bull sollte immer schwarz sein!""
Relax doch mal....
Du bist schon so ein Held, schrei net so rum.
Lern erstmal meine Postings lesen

Wenn man Vorhersagen mit "666" & 800 für Ende März abgibt rechnet man schon mit Argwohn, unsinnigen Bemerkungen und Kritik. Und genauso kam es dann auch.
Man sollte auf seinen eigenen Instinkt vertrauen. Schau ich zurück sehe ich viele Erfolge und viele Niederlagen - die Erfolge aber überwiegen.

Man muss in diesem Forum (leider) vieles einstecken. Ist die Meinung "sehr kontra" ist sie meist Blödsinn - das beziehe ich noch nicht einmal ausschließlich auf unser "Börsenspiel". Sehr schade sowas.
Meine Taktik lautet: drinnbleiben, nicht traden und gegebenfalls aussitzen. Ist zwar sehr konservativ, bringt mir aber langfristig dicke Gewinne.
UND: Man kann sich solche Prognosen persönlich leisten (!!!).Am Meisten würde mich ärgern, wenn ich einen signifikanten Anstieg verpasse - das ist schlimmer als jeder Verlust.
Gute Nacht jetzt.
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Original von Eldorado
Sinclair...."At first the equity market breaks would bring in temporary sellers of gold.
And then.......

Relaxt doch mal.
Ein Schaf sollte immer schwarz sein!
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Aber was auch bedacht werden muss ist, dass die Profits auch in Gold gepumpt werden könnten, was durchaus neue Hochs im POG bis Ende März bringen kann.

P.S. Nochmal das Sinclair-Posting anschauen!
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Mein Riecher sagt solange Bush in Iran nur Cowboy Spiele macht ist der letzte Punkt bzw. Fruehjahr am 26 Maerz.IMO
Wir werden sehen!
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Posted On: Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 3:03:00 PM EST
Today\'s Gold and Equity Market
Author: Jim Sinclair
Dear CIGAs,
Everything happening today is contained in the Formula and is extremely gold positive. When I was asked yesterday in Toronto during the informal question and answer session what would happen to gold when and if the equity market broke I answered, "At first the equity market breaks would bring in temporary sellers of gold. However, quite quickly thereafter and most certainly when the US dollar also gets hit gold will steady and start its move to all the Angels.”
Please read the Formula which debunks any idea that the slowing of US business and significant drop in tax revenues is bad for gold. As in the 70s this is the beginning of the major move, nothing else.
If you have no margin position, you have no problem.
If you do have a margin position you have not followed my pleas for your safety.Those of you who are fully paid and are throwing your gold and gold shares out the window have learned absolutely nothing I have been trying to teach you!
KEY POINTS TO REVIEW TODAY:
These are all the same items that occurred in the 70\'s. I have been telling you this every time I publish the Formula.
Key Points of the FORMULA in action right now:
1. We have witnessed the Dow rise on economic news indicating deceleration of activity. This continues until major corporations announced poor earnings, making the Dow fall faster than it rose, moving it deeply into the red.
2. I heard all this "slow business" as negative to gold talk in the 70\'s. It was totally wrong then. It will be exactly the same now
Those of you who panicked by today\'s action in gold and gold shares are simply doing the WRONG thing. If you had reviewed the Formula published at least 50 times since written you would know that what is taking place in general equities and the general economy is so completely gold positive, yet out you go in a state of total abandon.
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Original von gogh
China wird jetzt genuesslich seine USD_Reserven einsetzen.
Dabei geht es denen nur als Nebeneffekt um Profit.
Was zaehlt ist Genugtuung.
5000 Jahre Kultur gegen Guantanamo Bay.
Himmelweisschen
goghHackennasen
plattschlagen!China wird jetzt genuesslich seine USD_Reserven einsetzen.
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Eldo, zum Allerletzten Mal für heute: Wir haben glaube noch nicht Ende März!
Zu heute habe ich nichts mehr zu sagen. Außer vielleicht, dass Dein Bauchgefühl wirklich exzellent war und Deine Handlungen großes Lob ernten sollten.
Heute war einfach nur sehr heftig. Es war aber eine Korrektur, nicht mehr.
Die US-Rezession wird eingepreist. Schlechte Wirtschaftsjahre sind gute Börsenjahre. Greenspan wurde vorgeschickt, China brach ein, Europa brach ein, USA brach ein und alle anderen Assets auch - außer Öl. Warum auch immer!?
Bei Vollmond gehts Reifen aufpumpen und ab zum "Händler"

Und Eldo: du hattest mir heute viel zu viele wischiwaschi Aussagen gepostet. Aber meine Stimme zählt hier viel weniger...somit, was solls...
Schönen Abend.
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Home-Price Index Slides, With 'No Sign of Bottom'
The prices of existing U.S. single-family houses extended their slide in most regions in December, trimming annual price gains, according to an index of major metropolitan areas released on Tuesday.
The composite month-over-month Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller Home Price Index of 10 metropolitan areas declined 0.8% to 222.01, unchanged year-over-year, S&P said on its Web site. The composite month-over-month Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller Home Price Index of 20 metro areas showed a 0.7% drop in December, a 203.07 reading, and a 0.5% year-over-year gain.
"The slide at this point is a good deal steeper then we saw at the beginning of the decade and we don't see any sign of a bottom," David Blitzer, S&P Index committee chairman, told CNBC. "These are the worst numbers in at least ten years."
Blitzer also told CNBC that the impact of the subprime mortgage market could further depress home prices: "The damage from the subprime mortgage market probably hasn't shown up in home prices yet," Blitzer said. "That will take a lot of buyers out of the market, and fewer buyers probably means weaker prices and less hope of a turnaround."
"Annual changes in home prices are either in decline, flat or yielding negative returns across all markets," added Robert J. Shiller, chief economist at MacroMarkets LLC, in a release. "All metro areas are showing smaller annual returns than those reported for November."
The newly published U.S. National Index, which has historically portrayed less volatile increases and declines, joins the other two composites in the steep decline that began in 2005, falling 0.7% over the quarter and ending the year at just 0.4% annual growth, Shiller added.
The S&P/Case-Shiller U.S. National Home Price Index tracks the value of single-family homes across the country.
Standard & Poor's last week announced an expansion of its S&P/Case-Shiller U.S. Home Price Indexes to add a quarterly gauge of national home prices.
U.S. home prices rose 0.4% in the fourth quarter of 2006 compared with the same quarter a year earlier, according to Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller National Index.
U.S. home prices were down 0.7% in the fourth quarter from the previous quarter, according to Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller National Index.
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Freddie Mac Toughens Standards For Buying Subprime Mortgages
Freddie Mac, one of the nation's biggest buyers of subprime mortgages, is announcing dramatically tougher standards for purchasing these loans in the secondary market, according to CNBC's Steve Liesman.
The standards appear to go beyond existing guidance from federal bank regulators, Liesman said.
Under the new standards, Freddie Mac will only buy subprime mortgages where the borrower has been qualified at the higher interest rates to which these loans eventually adjust.
In other words: if the initial rate is 5%, but the loan eventually adjusts to 10%, borrowers must now show the ability to pay the loan at the higher 10% rate for Freddie Mac to buy the loan.
In an exclusive appearance on CNBC, Richard Syron, Chairman and CEO of Freddie Mac, said he was taking the action now because borrowers have been squeezed by higher interest rates and falling housing prices.
"At a time when housing prices were going up 5% a year, and it went up 10% in two years, if someone paid 5% to get a mortgage, they were still ahead," said Syron. "But in the last few months, housing prices have softened."
Iin addition, Freddie Mac will limit the use of low-documentation loans where borrowers cannot verify their income.
The new standards won't take effect until Sept. 1, 2007 because Freddie Mac wanted a transition period.
"We don't want people that have things in the pipeline now or may be in a position that they have to refinance in the very short run to be squeezed out of the market," said Syron.
Freddie Mac has financed about 50 million homes. Syron says the company is developing new, more consumer-friendly subprime products.
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Da drehen jetzt beim Zentralkommitee alle durch. Jetzt haben Millionen Chinesen schön ihre Aktien gekauft und der Laden bricht zusammen.
Kann es sein, dass das ein politischer Schlag der Vereinigten Staaten gegen China war?
