Beiträge von Eldorado

    Baron, mich interessieren mehr die Aktien, Gold/Silber geht seinen Weg nach oben so oder so.


    2500 USD POG sollten drin sein beim Hoehepunkt der Hausse,konservativ gesehen.


    Aber was bedeuten schon solche Zahlen, im Endeffekt geht es um die Kaufkraft einer Unze im Vergleich zu heute, die wird sicherlich hoeher sein als gestern.


    Wie hoch ?...gerade das wird die Ueberraschung die keiner weiss.

    Und spaeter haengt es dort.... wer dort heiraten(schnakseln) will muss mit Gold auffahren, in D mit Porsche ...:D


    Milliarden von Inder oder Chinesen haben da eine andere Meinung als die Deppen die so etwas schreiben oder verkaufen.


    Btw, in Indien gibt es mehr Euro Millionaere als Einwohner in Kanada.(> 35m)


    Von wegen zahnlose Inder :D....TATA MOTORS kauft die anderen PKW Hersteller in Europa auf, wer weiss vielleicht arbeitet einer von Euch eines Tages fuer so einen ""zahnlosen"". :D

    We don't give visas to criminals' :D.hey !.. die brauchen reden.


    2008-2-7 10:17Nairobi



    - The United States said on Thursday it had issued visa restrictions on 10 leading Kenyan politicians, including government party members and opposition leaders, because they had been involved in or incited violence since the disputed December 27 presidential election.
    "We don't give visas to criminals," embassy spokesperson TJ Dowling said. "Inciting violence is a criminal act."
    Dowling declined to give names, but said parliamentarians from President Mwai Kibaki's governing party and the main opposition Orange Democratic Movement, led by Raila Odinga, were informed in letters that they would not be allowed into the United States.
    Party members could not immediately be reached for comment.
    300 000 people homeless
    The announcement came as pressure mounted on talks, mediated by former United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan, to break the political impasse and end post-election violence that had killed more than 1 000 people and made 300 000 homeless.
    The UN Security Council on Wednesday deplored the violence and urged political leaders to resolve the crisis "through dialogue, negotiation and compromise".
    The council statement issued in New York expressed concern at the "dire humanitarian situation" in the country and gave strong backing to the Annan-led talks that began on January 29.
    A UN fact-finding mission arrived in Kenya on Wednesday to assess allegations of grave human rights violations during the fighting, which in many cases turned into ethnic clashes.
    The three-week mission - sent by the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour - would gather information from the government and the opposition, along with victims and witnesses. The findings would be made public.
    December election 'rigged'
    Arbour said: "Truth and accountability are of critical importance in putting an end to the violence and preventing future human rights violations."
    The December election, which foreign and local observers said was rigged, returned President Mwai Kibaki to power for a second five-year term after Odinga's lead evaporated overnight.
    Violence had continued in western Kenya, scene of some of the worst post-election clashes.
    Police said they fired to disperse hundreds of residents who had barricaded the gates of the police station in Litein, 235km west of Nairobi, on Tuesday. Two teachers were killed.
    In a forest nearby, officers on Wednesday retrieved 18 bodies with gunshot and machete wounds. They had been killed in four days of clashes between rival gangs, which police stopped by throwing grenades.
    The violence had been shockingly brutal in a country once considered among the most stable in Africa, with fighters using crude weapons such as machetes and bows and poisoned arrows.

    Sinnlos hier weiter zu diskutieren, ein uferloses Thema das hier nicht reinpasst.


    Themawechsel, Gold bei 911 $....der Merkur dreht sich langsam aber sicher... :D


    Happy new Year ..China ! ....bei Neumond oben drauf.


    Die Asiaten kaufen weiter Gold waerend der Zuhaelter in Deutschland ins Leihhaus rennt und seine Panzerkette verkauft, nach dem schlechten Report ueber Gold in der Bildzeitung.


    Freitag Abend um 22 Uhr ist Stichtag, dann reden wir weiter.


    Well. well, ist ja alles Unfug mit den Planetenstellungen die Finanzmaerkte beeinflussen.


    Komisch....das stimmt aber so oft und wer es weiss kann damit was anfangen... :rolleyes:

    @Lizzards & Snakes


    Studiert erstmal 6 Semester Goldseitenforum und lest die Hintergruende sowie Diskussionen hier bevor ihr einen Kommentar ueber diese Theorie abgibt.
    Schon mal Buecher darueber gelesen ?....Noeh !....ist ja Bloedsinn, aus fertig - Amen !


    Gott oder dem Teufel dienen ?... die meisten dienen dem Geldgott und sind selber Teufel um ans Moos zu kommem mit ihrer Gier/Neid und Egoismus.
    Jetzt fehlt nur mehr das man sagt Rockefeller und Rothschield sind Pfarrer und haben damit nichts am Hut.


    Esoterik, Astrologie,Verschwoerungstheorie, Freimauer,Iluminati,die Bilderberger und neue Weltordnung, davon haben die meisten null Ahnung und wollen auch nicht wissen.
    Die kann man nicht so einfach beweisen oder von der Hand wischen als Humbuk.


    Klar fuer die meisten ist das ein boehmisches Dorf, die koennen nur den Kopf schuetteln.


    Die sollen auch weiter die Augen zumachen und an ihren Schweinsbraten glauben.


    Have a nice day, big brother is watching you already and you don't know that either.


    XEX

    The ECB should be raising interest rates due to the inflation rate of 3.2%, which in reality is over 6%. If you follow the actions, not the words of Mr. Trichet, you will find that he has increased M3, money and credit at 11.7%, down from 12.3% in December 2007. That means he is cooperating with the Fed and the Bank of England. We expect the next move will be to cut rates both at the ECB and at the BofE in spite of its inflationary implications. This is already being reflected in the pound and will soon be reflected in the euro. That means the dollar will rally again off 75 on the USDX and then retest 75 and move down to 72. The moves will delay the dollar downside, but how can one compare a 1/4% drop with the BofE and the ECB, when the Fed has cut 1-1/4% and looks to be ready to cut ½% additional in March. The quarter point cuts in Europe will give their economies a little breathing room, but not much. European official inflation will move higher. Manufacturers will continue to hedge forward in Europe allowing them to continue to compete even though the euro and the pound will continue to climb versus the dollar. They will have to as well continue to deal with market gyrations caused by the interference and manipulation of the elitist “Working Group on Financial Markets.” Although we believe that to some extent that the Treasury and the Fed lets them in on their plans, these are not unilateral moves.

    As an example, the Fed probably engineered the ECB injection of over $1 trillion into the Eurozone banking system and the secret bailout of the Spanish banking system recently. We believe those injections came from the Fed by the ECB. Perhaps using the BIS, the Bank of International Settlements. The idea is to keep all major banks afloat even if it means mergers. Europe has CDO problems plus problems in housing in Spain, Ireland and England. In addition, the Germans are very unhappy with the management of the ECB and the continued reliance on Germany to keep the Eurozone afloat. We repeat again there may be mega mergers in banking, investment banking brokerage and insurers, but for now none will be allowed to go under - they will just paper it over via more money and credit. They have little concern about inflation.
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    THE INTERNATIONAL FORECASTER

    Super Report von Antal Fakete.....Juno Moneta !....open the mint again before its too late.


    Ps. Leider lassen die Freimaurer einen Politiker wie Ron Paul nicht ran.:(


    http://www.321gold.com/editorials/fekete/fekete020608.html


    ...However, there is a ray of hope: international competition in the monetary arena. Neither the Chinese nor the Russian central bankers do at heart believe in constitutional money any more than their American colleagues. They certainly enjoy their unlimited power to issue the currency in unlimited quantities. Nevertheless, they are not stupid. Both the Russians and the Chinese want to put an end to American monetary hegemony whereby the U.S. government can obtain real goods and real services from all countries of the world in exchange for irredeemable (read: fictitious) promises to pay. They realize that the only road to defeating the American monopoly is the Yellow Brick Road. They have quietly embarked upon an ambitious program of remonetizing gold through the back door. They keep a low profile about it as it is in their interest to acquire as much gold as possible on the best terms possible.


    No matter how you look at it, there is a Gold War going on in the world. The alignment of the antagonists is the same as it was in the Cold War. The name of the game is: who will end up with the largest pile of the precious yellow? Remember the adage: "He who has the gold makes the rules."


    The competition of the superpowers to acquire gold will ultimately lead to an infinite escalation of its price. As unlimited amounts of rubles and yuans are printed to buy up the limited amount of gold that is available, the competitive devaluation of currencies will reach a frenzied stage in destroying the value of all currencies. Competitive devaluation is a destructive process. American, Russian, and Chinese central bankers will find that their hands are forced by events. After all the false fits and starts they will hit upon the winning strategy: the constructive process of opening their Mint to the unlimited coinage of gold. This is the only logical thing they can do, whether they like it or not, after the stage is reached whereby cartloads of paper currencies fail to fetch even one grain of gold.* Opening the Mint will be the only way to attract all the available gold and silver in the world to their shores, benefiting their prostrate banking system that will be quick to issue gold instruments acceptable in global trade.


    The U.S. will be forced to do the same, but it is questionable that being a follower rather than the leader will save the American economy from further disintegration.


    There is no reason why the U.S. government could not retain monetary leadership in the face of the Russian and Chinese challenge. All it has to do is to open the U.S. Mint to both gold and silver before they open theirs. To do this would take fine statesmanship such as presidential candidate Ron Paul is offering to the American people.


    Unfortunately, a great deal of damage has been done mainly because the educational system has been corrupted in exiling monetary science and sound economics from the curriculum. Keynesian and Friedmanite economics rule supreme in academia. Adventurers at the Treasury and the Federal Reserve take full advantage of the prevailing ignorance. Bad-mouthing of gold in the financial press continues unabated.


    If the U.S. government fails to act and misses this last opportunity to stabilize the dollar, then the American people will be exposed to excruciating economic pain. People of other lands will not fare much better. When their dollar-denominated assets go up in smoke, they will blame America. Anti-American feeling in the world will hit an all-time high. America will lose all her allies in the face of an increasing number of enemies. And, as famously stated by Alan Greenspan, America will be unable to procure war matériel for its military.


    The only way to avoid catastrophe is to open the U.S. Mint to gold and silver while it is not too late, as advocated by presidential candidate Dr. Ron Paul.


    * Note that I am not prophesying that cartloads of paper currencies will fail to fetch a loaf of bread. In fact it is perfectly feasible that the price of bread, along with other prices of consumer goods, will fall in the wake of deflation. The process herein described is not one of hyperinflation. It is one of competitive devaluation by the superpowers in order to corner gold.

    From the Formula, "I heard all this "slow business" as negative to gold talk in the 70s. It was totally wrong then. It will be exactly the same now."


    Today again the Prechterites are panning gold hard. That is a bullish sign.:D


    According to Erik, "Your Keynes quote - only one in a million can perceive the effects of currency devaluation. Younger generations deserve a chance to improve those odds."


    They will feel the effect as nothing so far has been good for the dollar except Greenspan and Bernanke informing everyone that relative business conditions make currency value. Bernanke has done this because interest rates are going to zero. Once the weak dollar shorts are skinned the dollar will break to new lows once again.

    Ich habe das Gefuehl das die Decke 1.50 USD/Euro ist dann wird die EZB wieder USD kaufen oder US T-Bonds und Gold wieder mal verkaufen wenn der Befehl vom Goldkartell kommt.
    Mehr als 1.50 sehe ich nicht, dann entwerten die EZB Banker mit.


    Wetten das !! ;)


    Sehe gerade, die 1000 USD POG die kommt dieses Jahr geteilt durch 1.50 ist 666.666 Euro. :rolleyes:


    Diese Huerde wird stark umkaempft wie damals bei den verflixten 666 USD .


    Genauso sagt dann der TEUFEL ab 666 Euro heisst es Gold kaufen, wir hatten das schon mal.


    Bis dann..... 777 Euro POG ist keine Utopie in 2009.


    XEX

    What did I say ?....within 60 hours.
    Merkur war ruecklaeufig vom 28.Januar bis 8.Februar, ich erwarte bald mehr als die 905 $ POG.
    Zu frueh um zu feiern, abwarten was das PPT wieder macht...expect the unexpected !
    Mister T von der EZB sowie DB und dann drei andere Banken kommen mit ihrer Bilanz bis Freitag.
    Erstmal ein wenig ausatmen, war wieder A knapp mit meinen M.
    Morgen Neumond und happy new year to China ! ;)
    ...die sich ueber das Neujahrspecial 888 USD herzlich bedanken bei der EZB.
    Schwupp und schon ist es im Osten oder bei Rothschield/Rockefeller im Lager.


    In business, where the aim is to grow and make a profit, the three digit numbers like 328 and 888 are very popular with the Chinese because they sound the same as “business will easily prosper” and “thrice prosperous”. Generally three digit numbers are preferred over two or four digits because 3 is a yang number and it stands for “liveliness” or “san” in Cantonese.

    Na wer sagts denn.... 906 $ leichte Erholung :D


    Die hatten hier auf CNBC Afrika Mr. Martin Murenbeeld, er sagte er ist bullisch gold und sagt der USD faellt noch bis 15- 20% in Stufe 2 ..... gegenueber welcher Waehrung wird sich zeigen :D
    Er kam mit dem Argument das die asiatischen Waehrungen wie der Remindi/Yuan ca. 30-40% ueberbewertet ist und das die asiaten spaeter ihr Gold in ihrer Waehrung dann wesentlich billiger kaufen und somit die Nachfrage ansteigen wird falls China den Peg von 7 auf 5 bringt dann in ihrer Waehrung 40% sparen bei dem POG heute.:]
    Die Araber werden ebenfalls weiter ihre Petrodollars in Gold tauschen.
    Makes sense !.... Go Gold Go ! :D


    Von dort kommt die Nachfrage, Deutschland ist uninteressant, die verkaufen und liefern aus. :D


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDFTJVJce7s&feature=related