Braucht ihr das ? 
Werden die Goldzertifikate nach Mitte 2009 verkauft, sind immer 25 Prozent Abgeltungssteuer fällig.
Die Frage, wie Gold steuerlich behandelt wird, das man sich auf Grund eines Zertifikates ausliefern lässt, bezeichnen Steuerfachleuten noch als "ungeklärt".
Für physisches Gold gilt nach den neuen Steuerregeln weiter die einjährige Spekulationsfrist.
Gleich kommt Bjoern Peters oder Aurum63 und klaert das auf...
Unter anderen die Zinsen stiegen auf 12% und die Inflation war hoch in 1980.
Die 850 waren nur kurz zu sehen, am naechsten Tag fiel Gold um 35 Dollar wieder ab, war wohl eine kurze Panik auf dem Markt.
Die kommt aber wieder.... in 2008/2009 fliegen die Fetzen.
Diesmal reicht nur die Inflation...der USD und Zinsen spielen dann eine Nebenrolle.
Keine Ahnung wer hier USD kauft, vermutlich die EZB unter anderen.
Ich vermute der USD kann unter den Vorraussetzungen noch bis 1.42 zum Euro laufen dann sollten sich das Rad wieder drehen wenn man wieder den USD shorted.
Den Anstieg von USD sollte man ausnutzen und in eine andere Waehrung umsteigen. Sobald diese Euphorie vorbei ist faellt der USD schnell wieder ab auf die 73 USDX. Die momentane Staerke des USD spuert leider Gold und Silber, ich sehe diesen Trend max. bis mitte Januar 2008.
IMO, alles ueber 75 USDX ist ein Fake der Zentralbanker, die 78 kann locker erreicht werden bei diesen Aktionen der Banker.
Ich habe irgendwo gelesen das die Zentralbanken weltweit 120 Mrd USD zum Brand loeschen letzte Wochen in die USA geschickt haben.
Ben hat es so angeordnet.....
Mehr Marijuana for USA !
Sehe es so, bei $ 666+ sagte der Teufel kauft Gold, bei 777 $ sollte man den Einkauf bereits erledigt haben.
Bei 888 $ kann man wieder einige Profite bei den PM Aktien mitnehmen und bei 999 $ oder 666+ Euro drehen dann alle durch und stuerzen sich auf Gold wie die Fliegen auf die .....
@Schablonski...genau so ist es. 
Man vertuscht die Inflation und Bankenkrise....bis zum neuen Jahr.
Police 'shocked' by crime spree
2007-12-14 10:48
Pretoria
Police on Friday said they were shocked by the senseless violence during a three-hour crime spree in the quiet suburb of East Lynne, which left four people with gunshot wounds.
Two robbers hit three houses within three hours during the bloody rampage, stealing two cellphones, almost raping a woman and hijacking a car.
"I can't understand that," Inspector Klaas van der Kooi told News24 on Friday. "I was shocked."
The robbers hit shortly after 20:00, when they attacked an elderly man and his son-in-law in a house in Swan Street. They entered the house and left with only a cellphone.
'She screamed'
They then moved on to Stormvoël Drive, where one of the suspects attempted to rape a woman. Her screams alerted a friend, who was shot as he came to her rescue. He was wounded in the leg, but is in a stable condition, police told News24.
Police are following up leads after the car of a 22-year-old woman, who was hijacked in the last incident, was found without wheels in a maize field near Marble Hall in Limpopo.
"We got several leads from that," said Van der Kooi. Police will use the evidence gathered to trace the robbers, who are still at large.
The woman was rushed to Pretoria Academic Hospital in a serious condition after being shot. She was targeted while parking her car at her home in Hans Dons Drive.
"They didn't ask anything, they just started shooting," said Van der Kooi.
Gert Otto, a neighbour, noticed two men running down the street. "One of them had a firearm and fired three shots into the passenger side of the car."
Initially their shots missed the woman, but the robbers then pulled her from the vehicle and shot her several times before fleeing in the car.
Serious but stable
A hospital spokesperson told News24 on Friday morning that the woman was in a serious but stable condition.
Police are investigating three cases of armed robbery, a hijacking, and four cases of attempted murder.
"From time to time things happen, but people getting shot like this, it doesn't happen on a daily basis," said Van der Kooi.
Metall Report:
Gute Charts, interessant auch der 18 day MA, den sollte man ebenso beobachten.
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1197586443.php
USD:
The US Dollar
I do not see the Dollar breaking down anytime soon. In fact, I see the Dollar getting stronger against its’ European counterparts because it’s only a matter of time before European Central Banks begin a series of “regular Fed Fund Rate cuts”.
Once this begins, they will move in lock step with our Fed. In fact they may move quicker to lower their rates than our Fed has. Therefore my thought is that they will now match us cut for cut going forward, removing their opportunity to maintain effectively higher rates over the US.
What this means is that the US Dollar may have bottomed out. If so, the first main hurdle for gold is to recognize what is occurring and for investors to move their focus to inflation, not the value of the Dollar.
Employment is staying strong in the US. Retail Sales look pretty good and the PPI is simply red hot. The “hope” for deeper rate cuts, while still in play due to the credit issue is becoming muted out which adds credence to the Fed’s slow pace of lowering the interest rates that the Fed is directly in control of.
Yes, this will be bucking the short-term trend which is down. However the seasonal trend is due to start up after this washout takes place.
Therefore let’s use today’s washout to get long.
All I need is Fiat....
Jedenfalls bei ca. 1.175 SFR/USD wird der USD stark geshorted.
Konservativ innerhalb von 16 - 24 Monate.
Kurz gesagt, erstmal halten bis der POS die 18 Euro erreicht hat, egal wie lange es dauern wird.
Ich erwarte einen jaehrlichen Anstieg in jeder Waehrung von 20 -25% beim Gold und Silberpreis.
Mit Edelmetalle sollte man eine doppelte Steigerung sehen was die inoffizielle Inflation ist, egal in welchen Zeitraum.
Die in D liegt ja nun knapp bei 10% und wird ca. 12-14 % im naechsten Jahr erreichen.
Darum physisches Edelmetall im Depot.
XEX
South Africa:
'Welcome to SA"" F*** You !!
2007-12-14 09:54
Johannesburg
International visitors to OR Tambo Airport were given a rude welcome after the words "Fuck You" were displayed on all welcome sign boards, the Son reported on Friday.
The tabloid ran pictures of the offending message on the electronic boards.
OR Tambo spokesperson Nothemba Noruwane said they did not know who was responsible for the "greeting".
Noruwane said: "We are still trying to find out what happened ... who put those words on. Many workers had access to the system and the matter is under investigation.
"Many workers' access to the system has been revoked and only a few Acsa members now have access to the system," she said.
According to the Airports Company of South Africa, the incident happened earlier this week.
Der Bueffel laeuft wieder, auferstanden von den Leichen ?
Morgen werden wir es sehen, nach dem opening.
Ten more years of power cuts
...bringt die Taschenlampe mit zur WM...
2007-12-13 21:36
Cape Town
How long will the present Eskom load shedding continue? Ten years at least.
Because there is such an acute shortage of generation capacity, because electricity demand is growing steadily and because it takes at least 6 years to build the baseload stations we need, it will be 10 years or more before we have sufficient reserve margin to end the load shedding.
On Tuesday President Mbeki apologised publicly for the power shortages, saying the government had not allowed Eskom to build new stations when it wanted to.
He said, "Eskom was right. We were wrong".
Now this is a jolly decent thing for him to say, but it is wrong on two counts. First, Mbeki suggests that it was rather difficult to tell whether we needed new power stations.
It wasn't. It was blindingly obvious. Second, he is too chivalrous in taking all the blame upon his government; half must fall on Eskom.
Doing the math
Let me give some simple figures. In 1994, Eskom's maximum demand was 24 800 MW (megawatt) and its operating capacity was 32 370 MW. In the past, electricity demand had grown at least as fast as economic growth (from 1956 to 1995 it grew twice as fast).
But assume it would only grow at the same rate. In 1994, the ANC government was talking about 6% economic growth, which was perfectly reasonable; many developing countries have grown faster.
Six percent electricity growth would have lead to a maximum demand of 52 897 MW in 2007. Add 15% to that for a safe reserve margin and we should have required a capacity of 60 831 MW in 2007. Our actual capacity now is about 38 500 MW.
Suppose in 1994 we had assumed a very modest 3% electricity growth. We should then have required a capacity of 41 883 MW in 2007.
The excuse that "we were caught by surprise by unexpectedly high economic growth" is unmitigated nonsense. Economic growth has been less than expected. We have never reached the hoped for 6%.
After 1994, the ANC government began to speak about breaking up Eskom's generation monopoly and introducing private generators or IPPs (Independent Power Producers).
Half-baked policy
In 1998 it forbade Eskom from building new stations. The policy was half-baked. Electricity prices were much too low for any IPP to come in and nobody built anything. So, as Mbeki has confessed, the government is culpable for the present crisis.
But so is Eskom. Eskom knows far more about electricity supply than anybody else, including the government. Eskom's own figures showed we had to build stations.
Eskom should have shouted this to the government; instead it whispered. Eskom has got a good planning department but it had no authority, did not report to the Eskom board, was usually ignored and sometimes actually ordered to put silly assumptions into the plans and projections.
The Eskom bosses were in a dreamlike state of denial, hoping that the looming crisis would somehow go away. Until very recently Eskom was still giving us nonsensical assurances that there was no crisis but that supply was merely "a bit tighter than we'd like".
Blaming the wrong man
Willy Spies, the genial Freedom Front MP, has asked Alec Irwin, Minister of Public Enterprises, to resign because of the electricity crisis.
He is blaming the wrong man. It was Alec Irwin, coming into this office in 2004, who ended the paralysis. He restored to Eskom, in effect if not in law, its old responsibility to ensure our electricity supply and to build power stations.
Eskom is now doing what it should have done ten years ago. It has built gas turbine power plants at Atlantis and Mossel Bay. These are quick and cheap to build but horribly expensive to run because they use diesel fuel and are thirsty.
They should only be used at peak times but such is the crisis that they are running more than this, and already there are problems with diesel supply.
Eskom has ordered the giant 4 500 MW Medupi coal station in Limpopo, whose first unit might be on line in 2012 if we are lucky.
It will cost about R78bn. (Power stations are very expensive but over their lives they produce such vast amounts of electricity that their unit costs are low.)
Need to face unpleasant truths
Eskom will next year order 3 000 MW of nuclear plants, whose first unit should be on line about 2015.
It has been suggested that Eskom should be partly funded by the tax payer to save raising the electricity price. This must be rejected out of hand.
Eskom must be funded entirely by electricity sales and by borrowing, for example in bonds. The electricity price is much too low and must go up sharply.
No IPP would come in unless it got prices at least double what they are now. Eskom's official return on assets is small (7%) but the actual return is much smaller, because Eskom hugely undervalues its generation plant. Again no IPP would accept such a small return.
We need to face unpleasant truths. Right now we do not really know what "maximum demand" is because we can never meet it. So we should speak of "maximum supply".
Eskom must stop pretending that 6% economic growth will only mean 4% electricity demand growth. This has never happened before and is not happening now.
And most unpleasant of all, we must realise that blackouts and power cuts will be with us until 2017 or beyond. 
- Fin24
Bei Jim Sinclair steht heute alles drin was los ist, ich lege nur den teil rein.
Dear CIGAs,
The dollar is up and therefore gold is down. There are significant profits long of gold and short of the US dollar. This is one of the reasons for the violence in the marketplace, but the report below is NO reason for dollar strength.
When the analysis of the report is done you will see a differential in days and other factors designed to make things looks better as the balance act is between keeping the general equities up, the bond market calm for TIC purposes and fighting the greatest financial crisis in history under the cover of better times. This balance is not containable.
If you believe that the US is headed for increasing consumption I will sell you a bridge in Brooklyn, NY.
There is no firm basis for the dollar rally other than short cover to lock in profits before year end by institutions. The managers do not get paid unless the profit is booked. Since the dollar rally has no sustainability, gold has NO sustained ability on the downside. As we speak, I am getting executions on Feb gold purchases at $799.90.
The media analysts are gleefully dismissing any thought of a recession and hailing a return to the good old times. That is total madness.
There are two comments I can make:
Be calm as today is but another passing cloud you have seen a million times already as gold heads toward $1050 and on to $1650
If you have a knot in your shorts (pants) it means you cannot stand the heat. If you do get out of the kitchen and please, please do not return.
more...
Schoen langsam tauchen die Nevada Zwergerl alle auf.
Ich habe sie aber nicht im Depo.....so klein war der.
Und jetzt kommt er mit den 2m oz. Schwammerl...
Der Wolfin hat was drauf.
We might pay you back all the Dollars when the Dollar is far-far less.
Super meine Herren !!
Gnomes of Zurich clock calamity in the making
By Jeff Randall
Last Updated: 2:17am GMT 13/12/2007
Over the course of several centuries, Switzerland's banks have become used to foreigners turning up with bags of loot. Not all arrive in Zurich to buy chocolates and cuckoo clocks.
As a haven of choice for "nervous money", Swiss deposit-takers have welcomed customers who, with good reason, disliked scrutiny. In no particular order of shame, they included the Nazis, Ferdinand Marcos, Haiti's appalling Duvalier family, Joseph Mobutu, who plundered Zaire, Nigerian dictator Sani Abacha and the Argentine military junta.
A tradition of financial discretion became formalised in 1934, when Switzerland introduced a banking secrecy law. That lasted until the mid-1980s, when enlightened local magistrates began helping Italian authorities to open up Mafia finances. The game changed again in 1998 with an anti-sleaze campaign and new laws to block money laundering.
advertisementOf course, not all Swiss banks are tainted by a history of dodgy dealings. And, to be fair, some have tried hard to make amends for past associations with ill-gotten gains. In 2000, UBS and Credit Suisse reached a $1.3bn out-of-court settlement with Holocaust survivors.
No amount of post hoc cleaning, however, can hide the fact that Switzerland's self-proclaimed reputation for being "the safest, most professional and prestigious banking place in the world", was built in part on the back of a willingness to regard cash as having no smell.
When super-rich foreigners had "a problem", the Gnomes of Zurich (as Harold Wilson called them in 1964) were more than willing to lend a hand.
Now, in a delicious reversal of fortune, it's Swiss banking that is desperate for help. The cash crunch, precipitated by America's mortgage crisis, has blown a hole in some hitherto rock-solid balance sheets.
As a result, the Gnomes (who in folklore live underground and guard treasure) have been forced to shove their wheelbarrows round the world's financial centres in the hope that kindly investors will chuck in some dollars.
Mighty UBS - formerly the Union Bank of Switzerland - has turned to the government of Singapore for a recapitalisation, after losing $13.5bn in the US sub-prime market.
The Singaporeans have injected nearly $10bn into the bank, with an extra $1.7bn coming from the Middle East (probably Oman).
It is another example of the extraordinary recalibration of power between Old World financial empires and state funds from emerging nations. Singapore's move comes shortly after the Chinese bought a stake in Barclays, and Abu Dhabi shored up Citigroup.
The first-aid package will be a huge blow to Switzerland's self-esteem, not least because UBS is paying 9pc interest for up to two years. This is close to a junk-bond rate. Not what you would expect from a blue-chip bank.
Switzerland cannot afford any lasting damage to its financial services industry, which represents more than 15pc of the country's output and about 200,000 jobs.
In uncertain times, Switzerland's sales message has been: we understand money, so let us look after yours. It worked. Almost one-third of the world's private banking market is thought to be controlled by Swiss institutions.
As with their watches, the Swiss like us to believe that their banking businesses perform with unrivalled precision. But how many of those professionals who have recently poured fortunes into UBS would have done so had they known their cash was being punted on trailer-trash properties in Palookaville?
Indeed, how many UBS directors really understood what the bank was buying when it waded into low-grade American mortgages? The same question might be asked of Credit Suisse, which lost $1bn on sub-prime assets.
I don't imagine for a moment a run on a Swiss bank to match the unravelling of Northern Rock, but the job of the sales team at UBS's wealth management division has just become a little more difficult. That said, with Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, HSBC, Bear Stearns, Deutsche Bank, Bank of America, Royal Bank of Scotland and Barclays all admitting to heavy sub-prime losses, it's getting harder for the risk-averse depositor to find a home.
The speed with which the turmoil in America has shaken foundations in Europe has stunned seasoned observers. Only two years ago, the BBC business website reported: "Banking boom boosts Swiss banks", after Credit Suisse had announced a 42pc jump in profits and UBS a 71pc increase.
Had you told shareholders then that UBS would wipe out an entire year's profits on collateralised debt obligations (CDOs), not only would most not have believed it, they would not have recognised the term.
Under fire from press and investors, UBS's chairman Marcel Ospel insisted on Monday that he is keeping his job in order to be "part of the solution". For those who find his obduracy surprising, there is a clue to how Swiss bankers think in an anagram of Gnomes of Zurich: Rich Sum Fog Zone.
Klasse Entwicklungshilfe Swissies, wir haben das Haus und ihr schreibt die Verluste.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR MONEY TOBLERONE !! 
Morgan Stanley issues full US recession alert
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/mon…xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox
Baby keep smiling you know the....$$$ falling
Q & A: Central banks act on credit crunch
Last Updated: 6:47am GMT 13/12/2007
What did the central banks do yesterday?
The world's five largest central banks, including the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve in the US, have announced that they will pump billions of pounds into the money markets.
They hope to ease the credit crisis by making it easier for banks to borrow money.
The Bank of England is making £10 billion worth of loans available to banks and building societies at a base rate of 5.5 per cent.
Why did they wait until now?
Mervyn King, the governor of the Bank of England, believes that allowing banks access to cheap money would create a "moral hazard".
His theory is that giving banks a "get out of jail free" card in the form of guaranteeing cheap loans encourages them to take unacceptable risks.
What does yesterday's move mean for home owners?
It should mean that banks and building societies pass on the full benefits of any rate cut by the Bank of England.
Are there any downsides of yesterday's move?
Now that the Bank of England is prepared to step in when things get tough, will the banks take risks by offering mortgages that are too generous?
Will the cash injection lead to the end of the credit crunch?
No. There is a worry that the injection of funds is a symptom of the problem rather than the solution.
Banks are refusing to lend, not because of the lack of cheap money, but the fear that the US housing market is in a worse state than previously thought and that the housing market in Britain is about to head for a severe slowdown.
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The ECB ($20bn) and the Swiss National Bank ($4bn) are playing a support-role in the latest joint action, backing the US move by offering dollar liquidity to European banks caught in the sub-prime mess. Part of the problem in August was that the Fed and ECB lacked swap arrangements, causing a mad scramble by European banks to obtain dollars. "The Europeans are acting simply as agents of the Fed," said Neil MacKinnon, a strategist at the ECU hedge fund group.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/mon…2007/12/13/cnbanks213.xml
Hoffentlich testet er nicht diesen Bereich und erobert die 400 zurueck... morgen am besten.
Heute ist der 13.....was will man erwarten ausser eine PPT show.
IMO der HUI ist jetzt eine voll gedrueckte Sprungfeder bei 392.
Der Schutzengel 400 hat eine freien Tag so wie es ausschaut, hoffentlich kommt er morgen wieder.
Mit so einen Gehalt bist ueberall willkommen in New York.
Pass auf die Fuesse auf, der Glatzi ist es doch nicht wert.
Da sind so viele Gangster das dir der Absatz sicher kaputt geht.
Schade um den Schuh.....wir schicken Rocky Goldolla, der soll ihm auf die Birne hauen.
Fuer heute hat er aber genug..... 
Die Leute wollen nur dein bestes,.... dein Geld !
