Beiträge von Eldorado

  • Gold und Silber... Informationen und Vermutungen I

    germoney


    Stimmt bis auf die 7 T die bei mir eingebucht sind...0.035% der Weltproduktion, eine Tagesproduktion fuer Eldo. :D


    Koennten auch nur Taler sein die effektiv bei SLV und CEF vorhanden sind.... :rolleyes: :D


    Mein Alchemist versucht die umzuwandeln in Gold, der hat aber bis jetzt seine Probleme. :D


    ...von wegen ich bin kein Silberbug ?.... :D


    ..jetzt wisst ihr warum Pro Aurum keine Muenzen mehr hat. :D


    Vielleicht spinnt auch nur mein Taschenrechner. :rolleyes:


    XEX

  • Wie geht es auf dem Goldmarkt weiter


    Und die Amis haben pro Nase ca. 3200 USD/ 2300 Euro Schulden auf der Kreditkarte.
    Den Home und SUV loan erwaehnen wir besser nicht. :D
    Alles zusammen 998 billion USD bei 320 millionen Einwohnern.
    Ob die auch Gold und Silber kaufen bei den Schulden ??

  • Gold und Silber... Informationen und Vermutungen I

    germoney


    Kurz gesagt haengt Silber Gold mit ca. einem Dollar hinterher.
    Wichtig ist was der POS in Euro oder SFR macht, was hilft es wenn Silber um 4 % steigt aber der Euro auch zum Dollar.
    Ich kann einige Prognosen mit POS 20 USD/1000 $ POG bis Ende 2007 nicht glauben, schoen waers aber wenn es so kommt.
    Fast 17 $ waere schon eine riesen Ueberraschung bis ende 2007, auch die 777 POG.
    IMO die 11.60 $ POS sieht man nie mehr wieder.
    Neuster Ratschlag von einigen Analysten ist 80/20 Gold/Silber streuen.
    5 -10% physisch reicht voll aus, Embry hat 6% physisch Silber.
    25% physisch Gold und ca. 8% Silber im Depot und man kann gut schlafen.
    Silber ist eben ein Looooong time investment und sehr emotional.
    Immer mit einem Rueckschlag rechnen dann ist man nicht entaeuscht und freut sich wenn keiner kommt. :D

  • Gold und Silber... Informationen und Vermutungen I

    Hoert sich gut an was Jim Willie sagt...mal schaun wann die medizin wirkt.


    ...vorsichtshalber bei 430 lasse ich etwas Dampf ab und gleiche ein wenig aus im Fall es geht kurz wieder auf die 390 bei dem Hoechstand.
    Ich war sehr frech im August mit meinen Einkaeufen, weniger Risiko in 2008 tut den Nerven gut.


    Funny, ich habe mir auch ein paar Traummarken gesetzt fuer den Bullrun beim HUI : 440 - 550 -770 -990- 1220 -1550 ...bis 2012.


    Bei DJ 11000 sollten einige Stoploss trigger los gehen bis 9000 und mehr bei Panik.


    300% Gewinn bis dort hin koennte moeglich sein wenn man Gold frei laufen laesst.


    Den USD unterschaetze ich nicht, der koennte nochmal aufatmen bevor er weiter so faellt.


    Z.zt sind mir zu viele USD short, das macht mich stutzig.
    Irgendeine Spritze kommt da noch auch wenn sie nicht lange wirkt.


    Die Chinesen koennen jederzeit dem USD den Todesstoss versetzen, auf die muss man aufpassen in erster linie.


    ...Gold & silver mining stocks will rise enormously when that monetary medicine is finally administered. In a big way ! :)
    Weihnachten koennte gut ausfallen fuer die Goldbugs, am besten alles laufen lassen und abwarten was sonst noch kommt.


    In den naechsten 6 Wochen wird sich noch einiges abspielen.


    Gnight


    XEX

  • Wie geht es auf dem Goldmarkt weiter

    Nur keinen Weltuntergangs oder Politik thread draus machen.
    Die Welt geht auch ohne uns unter.
    Eine Bombe ist verschwunden keiner weiss nun wer sie hat und darum fliegt EL Al von Israel die USA am 14.September nicht an.
    Lustig ist wenn eine Bombe weg ist das man das datum wann sie eventuell los geht vorher kennt. :D


    Eichelburg schreibt gleich : :rolleyes:


    Falls in den nächsten Tagen die "gestohlene" "9/14" Atombombe explodiert, werden die Banken nicht mehr öffnen - jetzt vorsorgen!


    Kollaps einer Grossbank oder aller Banken (von selbst) jederzeit möglich!


    Goldpreis wieder gedrückt.


    Wollen sie ihn wieder unter 700 bringen? ...dumme Frage :D


    Dollar stürzt ab: 79.21 !
    Weiss da jemand etwas? :D


    HOLT DAS GELD VON DER BANK (in die Sicherheit von Gold und Silber, solange es noch geht)......RENNT !!!!!


    Siehe auch Seite "Wie lange noch"


    Das Sparbuch bei der Sparkasse ist eines der riskantesten 8o Anlageobjekte überhaupt - Wolfgang Münchau



    BANKRUN NOW !!!! :D..jetzt Gold und Konserven kaufen und ab in den Bunker !!

  • Das neue Südafrika

    Calm after Cape Town protests


    2007-09-11 17:23:55


    Cape Town


    Police say they have restored calm at the scene of a housing protest that led to the closure of the N2 on Monday morning.


    SA Police spokesperson Capt Elliot Sinyangana said the protesters had dispersed by the mid-afternoon, after police fired rubber bullets and a stun grenade.


    Traffic was flowing, there had been no-re-occurrence of the morning's violence, and police were monitoring the situation.


    He could not immediately comment on a claim that dozens of protesters were arrested, but did say he understood one protester had sustained minor injuries.


    Earlier, the protesters set up a burning barricade just off the N2, threw stones at passing motorists and police, broke up dwellings under construction in the N2 Gateway project, and set a bakery delivery van alight.


    Police closed both lanes of the highway for a period over the morning traffic peak.


    The protesters, apparently mostly residents of the Joe Slovo shack settlement next to the Gateway project, were protesting against a move to temporary housing at Delft, some distance away on the Cape Flats, to make room for further Gateway construction.


    Violence 'completely unjustified'


    National Housing Minister Lindiwe Sisulu, whose department is punting the Gateway as a flagship project, said in a statement that Joe Slovo residents had to decide whether they wanted to co-operate with government and qualify for housing.


    "If they choose not to co-operate, they will be removed completely from all housing waiting lists," she said.


    Government would not tolerate violence and vandalism.


    She said Gateway project management had been interacting with residents, and the violence was "completely unjustified".


    According to the police, she said, some of the protesters had identified themselves as members of the Pan Africanist Congress.


    "If indeed this was a PAC protest, it would confirm our worst suspicion that opportunistic individuals and/or parties are using Cape Town's housing crisis to their advantage," Sisulu said.


    The Anti-Eviction Campaign said police had opened fire on the protesters at close range with rubber bullets.


    "They shot women and children and people are seriously injured... Dozens of residents have been arrested and the police are refusing to say where they have taken these residents even though some are injured."


    News24/SAPA

  • Das neue Südafrika

    Zim govt 'offered chiefs new cars :P



    '2007-9-12 08:52


    Harare


    Zimbabwe's main opposition party on Tuesday accused President Robert Mugabe's government of bribing traditional chiefs by giving them brand new vehicles ahead of elections due next year.
    Thirty-eight chiefs were given the open-backed vans on Monday at a ceremony in the capital.


    The handouts were part of a programme to equip the country's 266 chiefs with vehicles before year-end, the official Herald newspaper reported. The programme began four years ago, the paper said.


    But the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) described the gesture as bribery meant to coerce the traditional leaders into doing the ruling Zanu-PF's bidding ahead of joint presidential and parliamentary elections due in March.


    It was by no coincidence that the vehicles were being handed over now, the Morgan Tsvangirai-led MDC party said in a statement.


    Chiefs held massive sway over the rural electorate and were seen as key ruling party allies in its political strongholds in the countryside.


    Earlier this year, the chiefs reportedly endorsed Mugabe, who would be seeking his fourth term in office at the age of 84, as their candidate of choice in the 2008 polls.


    But the MDC on Tuesday accused Mugabe's party of abusing a respected institution.


    The party said: "No government should abuse civic institutions and our respected elders for selfish political ends that are inimical to their traditional roles."


    Sapa-dpa

  • Das neue Südafrika

    ""..Eldo, das ist ja gemein - würde sofort ausziehen."""


    Kann ich durchaus verstehen bei dem Ruuus. :D


    Merkel Multi - Kulti, ... so manchen Waehler taugt das.


    Besonders im Schnee.... :D..nur nicht in der Nacht.


    Vorsicht bei Nigerians, die habe es in sich und sind eiskalt.


    Die ersten die sich eine Mafia aufbauen, die funkeln nicht lange.


    Die ersten Gangs bilden sich schon in D.


    Familenzusammenfuehrung das muessen noch mehr nach D. :D


    Ihr Kinderlein kommet ......neue Staatsbuerger Harz4.

  • ritas minenecke

    Also Rita, schoen langsam glaube ich da ist nur die Orko in deinem Mineneck. :D
    Ich nenne es das Orko Eck, erfuellt auch seinen Zweck..


    :D...Orko is a fictional character from the popular Masters of the Universe franchise. He was not part of the original toy collection on which the show is based; he was created by the show's writers to serve as comic relief. A toy figure of him was then manufactured. Orko appears in the 1980s Filmation series He-Man and the Masters of the Universe and in the 2002 remake of the series. The character was named Gorpo in the early original series drafts, and that name was still used in the Brazilian Portuguese dub of the original series, but he was renamed Orko for animation purposes; Filmation artists often flipped the character cels, a technique that works best when the characters are symmetrical in design, and putting a "G" on Orko's shirt would have complicated the process because the letter G is not a symmetrical shape.


    Der Kurs von Gorpo soll zum Mond schiessen wie die anderen guten Juniors.


    Animation perfekt..... :D

  • Wie geht es auf dem Goldmarkt weiter

    Mal schaun wie viel im Endeffekt rumstehen und wollen mehr Kredit, Simpson...bis jetzt nur ein bla -bla das keinen juckt.
    Wann gehen die Deutschen schon auf die Strasse ? ;(


    @Milly....grrr...grrr


    Gibs doch endlich zu und rede nicht um den Brei herum. :D


    Hast Recht bei HUI 367 noch nichts verdient, aber wenn man zwischendurch einen Teil verkauft hat man auch verdient bei 6 mal 320 -370 hipp- hopp.
    Jetzt auch wenn man mitte August gekauft hat. :D


    Wo der HUI 285 war hatte ich die selben Schwindelanfaelle.


    Meine Stueckzahlen wurden hoeher auch der Durchschnittspreis der Aktien.


    Well, the biggest risk is to risk nothing.


    Unter 430 HUI gebe ich gar nichts her aber du hast die PM minen alle verkauft bei HUI 300-320 und kannst dich nur mehr ueber den POG freuen.


    Wenigsten was, zumindest warst du nicht so dumm auch noch physisch Gold bei der beruechtigten 666 zu verkaufen.


    367 HUI ist preiswert, kauf nach ..Aktien wie NOT.V von mir aus. :D


    Ist doch ok, zwei Schritte vorraus und einen zurueck kommt man auch ans Ziel.


    Ich spar das I told you so, die PM Minen und Juniors sind nichts fuer schwache Nerven.


    Da gehts 30% rauf und runter, man braucht viel Geduld, ein wenig Glueck und vor allen keine Gier bis man Gewinne realisiert.


    Gnight, ich wuensche Dir angenehme Ruhe, der Bullrun ist noch lange nicht aus, der geht heftig weiter rauf und runter wie gehabt.


    Von mir aus kann Pepe eine Pause einlegen.


    XEX

  • Gold und Silber... Informationen und Vermutungen I

    Zitat

    Original von Osterhase
    Gold ist in 3 Wochen um 9%
    und Silber um 10% gestiegen


    reicht doch :D


    Wer noch Gold und Silber hat, dem reicht das erstmal. :D


    Gnight 8)


    GO GATA!


    Love, love, love. A futures trader loves to see sudden, unexpected strength going into an opening, which usually reveals a zestful impatience to get a position on, resulting from expectations of much higher prices in the near future. That is just what we got this morning in the Comex gold pits, as the price went from up $1.30 to up $3 right before the bell.


    Gold, despite a weak dollar, then struggled every time it stared at $706, the point where The Gold Cartel rebuffed its price advance the past two trading sessions. Then, the unthinkable happened. The Fed’s Bernanke spoke the truth about part of the US economy … no spin for a rare change. His comments were stunning in their candor and had to leave many on Planet Wall Street semi-speechless because the news was not good for stocks, bonds, and the dollar. Regard:


    BERNANKE DOESN'T MENTION OUTLOOK FOR US ECONOMY, INTEREST RATES IN BERLIN SPEECH ON GLOBAL IMBALANCES


    BERNANKE-IF CURRENT ACCOUNT GAP PERSISTS AT CURRENT LEVEL, FOREIGNERS ULTIMATELY SATED WITH DOLLARS


    BERNANKE SAYS CURRENT PATTERN OF EXTERNAL IMBALANCES MAY PROVE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE OVER LONGER TERM


    BERNANKE - U.S. TRADE GAP UNSUSTAINABLE, BUT DEBT NOT PUTTING EXCEPTIONALLY LARGE BURDEN ON ECONOMY


    BERNANKE -GREATER THE ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED TO ACHIEVE BALANCE, MORE DISRUPTIVE AND COSTLY THEY WILL BE


    BERNANKE -U.S. ABILITY TO SERVICE DEBT, WILLINGNESS OF FOREIGNERS TO HOLD U.S. ASSETS LIMITED


    BERNANKE SAYS AS SAVINGS GLUT DISSIPATES, REAL INTEREST RATES COULD RISE


    BERNANKE - STRONGER GROWTH ABROAD, CHANGES IN REAL EXCHANGE RATES AIDING CURRENT ACCOUNT ADJUSTMENT


    Bernanke - U.S. current account gap cannot persist


    BERLIN, Sept 11 (Reuters) - Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke on Tuesday told a European audience that huge external debts were not unduly burdening the U.S. economy now, but that over time the U.S. current account gap is unsustainable.


    "The large U.S. current account deficit cannot persist indefinitely because the ability of the United States to make debt service payments and the willingness of foreigners to hold U.S. assets in their portfolios are both limited," he said in a speech at the Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften.


    Bernanke did not discuss the outlook for the U.S. economy or interest rates in his speech.


    The central bank head said that if U.S. current account deficits were to persist at current levels, foreign investors would eventually have enough of dollar assets. It would be difficult for the United States to finance its debt at a reasonable cost at that point, he said.


    The global savings glut -- flows of capital from emerging economies into established economies, particularly the United States -- remains in place, Bernanke said.


    As that glut dissipates, reducing the supply of financial capital from emerging economies, real interest rates should rise, he said.


    In the meantime, economic growth in developed economies in recent years has raised demand for saving and contributed to rising real interest rates, he said. Term premiums have increased from low levels recently in part because of recent market volatility, he added.


    -END-


    Well, this is as good as it gets for gold and the price responded accordingly, exploding up to $713+ in a very short period of time. The Gold Cartel was reeling. What was especially nice to see is that gold rallied $9 and the dollar barely budged. Gold made its move on its own again. The euro went up 5 ticks net and the yen remained lower.


    As night follows day, The Gold Cartel put out a distress call to the cabal crowd and to others in the Working Group on Financial Markets. The gold surge was stopped cold and the dollar was held steady. Nevertheless, the momentum for our team continues to build and build.


    The gold open interest fell 742 contracts to 364,361 and the silver open interest dropped 504 contracts to 107,142.


    Our STALKER source called. He says Kruggerands and Sovereign coins are nearly impossible to purchase without paying outrageous premiums. "Fractional golds" are available, but their premiums are even higher.


    The action in silver remains HORRENDOUS. Have no idea why. Just have to think silver will rocket out of here just when most give up on it. Those long gold and short silver are cleaning up right now.


    Adrian brought the following to our attention yesterday:


    "It should be noted that $700 gold is a very crucial level; we have only closed above $700 six times in 26 years. Four were in May 2006 and now 2 are in 2007. We are only $18 away from a 26 year high and judging by the HUI nobody cares too much. These are very, very significant developments and it is bullish that no one is paying attention."


    To elaborate and give a further idea of just how crucial his points are, we only need go to the gold weekly and monthly price charts:


    Weekly gold
    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/ZG/W


    On the weekly we can see how last week's rally and Friday close took out massive resistance and broke out of a huge base, unlike gold’s spike last year. It also represents the second highest weekly close since 1980.


    Monthly gold
    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/ZG/M


    Should gold close above $700 by the end of September, it will be the highest monthly close since 1980. In May 2006, as veteran Café members know, the US Government ORDERED the price down when gold spiked above $720 (this info came our way via a US Senator from Washington). By the end of May 2006 gold had been bludgeoned off its high and was on its way to tanksville. It has taken a year and one half to make its comeback.


    It seems it is always this way, but if there ever was a time for The Gold Cartel to punish gold, or at least prevent it from rallying sharply, this is it, with the sort of growing financial mess the Fed is facing, and with the decisions they are going to have to make.


    As always, it all comes down to what kind of ammunition (available central bank gold) does The Gold Cartel have to throw at the market? How much did they use up the past 18 months to keep gold where it is? This is the key month. For if gold is able to close above $700 a few more weeks and we get a monthly close above $700, it will set off a whole bunch of technical bells and whistles, and likely to bring on another slew of big picture physical market buying.


    It won’t be dull.


    The Gold Cartel is facing THE PERFECT STORM, which will make their ever present effort to prevent gold from soaring nearly impossible in the months to come.


    Among the myriad of reasons why…


    *The dollar is toast, fundamentally and technically:


    September dollar (down .15 to 79.67, yet another low for the move)
    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/97


    *Crude oil could do anything to the upside, as closed at an all-time high today):


    October crude oil ($78.23 up 74 cents per barrel)
    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CO/A7

  • Gold und Silber... Informationen und Vermutungen I

    sidha


    Ich kenne da auch einen der ist vermutlich jetzt Kriegsberichterstatter oder Experte in einem anderen Forum. :D
    Ein paar von den Kollegen schwirren noch rum oder sie treffen sich bei der Pommes Bude waehren die Asiaten im Goldladen stehen und Gold kaufen.


    Anyway.....I love the seasons.. :P


    ...India is the world’s largest market by volume for gold jewelry, and jewelers there typically begin stocking up on gold for that country’s most important festival, called Diwali, which this year comes in early November.


    Around the same time—after the monsoon rains and before the weather gets hot and dry—is the prime period for weddings in India. Gold, in the form of intricately crafted jewelry, is a traditional gift for Indian brides whose parents want them to have not only something beautiful they can wear, but also an enduring financial asset.


    It’s been estimated that up to 70 percent of gold jewelry sales in India occur during the wedding season, and as rapid economic growth expands that country’s middle class, it is not unreasonable to think that gold demand will grow as well. A recent story by Reuters stated that those in the Indian gold jewelry industry expect demand to hold up well as long as prices remain below 9,000 rupees per 10 grams, which currently equates to about $685 per troy ounce.


    The second largest market for gold jewelry by volume and the largest by retail value is the United States, according to the World Gold Council. The greatest demand is seen late in the year—not only from Christmas shoppers, but also from Indians and other prosperous immigrant communities that have brought their cultural affinity for gold to their new homeland.


    In mid-September, Muslims will begin their most important holiday season—the month-long observation of Ramadan. Fasting, prayers and introspection are stressed during Ramadan, but the end of the solemn holy month is marked by Eid ul-Fitr, a period of celebration and gift-giving. And in late December comes Eid ul-Adha, a four-day festival of sacrifice that also features the giving of gifts. Reduced gold-price volatility and “lifestyle” marketing is credited with raising demand across the Middle East this year.


    In China, where gold is viewed as a symbol of good fortune, a major shopping spree for gold is expected around October 1 to accompany National Day, a weeklong celebration. This would add to the strong gold demand already seen since February, the start of the Year of the “Golden Pig’, an auspicious year that comes around only once every six decades. On top of that, with the 2008 Summer Olympics taking place in Beijing, brisk sales of commemorative gold bars have been reported.


    The World Gold Council reported that gold demand in mainland China, Hong Kong and Taiwan was up nearly 30 percent in the second quarter of 2007 compared to the same period a year earlier. Along with jewelry, gold mementos in the shape of pigs have been popular gifts. Chinese New Year in 2008 falls in early February, and jewelers will be stocking up for that occasion as well.


    Going back to the chart, we can see these demand drivers at work. The 30-year and 15-year trend lines both show a sharp spike in relative strength in the early fall and then another one in the final six weeks of the calendar year.


    Based on the long-term record, this time of year may represent a good entry point for those who want to buy gold in advance of a seasonal upswing in demand. Managing expectations by using historical patterns can improve the chances for success but of course it doesn’t guarantee against losses.

  • Juniors aus Kanada

    Die haelfte weg von NOT... nun sitzt sie bei 2 CAD :Degal 135% Profit reichen auch, nun ein Freilaeufer im Depot.
    Da steckt mehr dahinter als nur 1.70 CAD, unwahrscheinlich, die grossen haben erstmal die Verkaeufer rausgelassen und blasen die NOT weiter auf.