Beiträge von Eldorado

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DON'T TRADE GOLD ON FULL MOON !

Was immer da kommt muss man aussitzen.

Was ich davon halte ?.... ich habe schon laengst ein wenig ADA gekauft nachdem Grandich die empfohlen hat.

Bei DON.V SOX.V MNS.V hat er sich verhaut, die sind seit dem gefallen.

Cést la vie

Gruss

Eldo

Meine Chinaplays sind MSV.TO MMM.TO SWG.TO SVM.TO JIN.V DYG.V ELD.TO GOR.V ETG.TO MJS.V 3330.HK 1818.HK

Ebenso in Korea investiert mit ein paar OTL.V weil mir die ganze Gegend und Leute im fernen Osten imponieren.

Bei diesen Fern Ost Aktien heisst es abwarten, genau das mache ich.

Ich trade KRE.V seit zwei Jahren und habe dabei gut verdient.
Den letzten trade machte ich bei 1.04 CAD wo die haelfte rausflog.
Nun ist sie IMO wieder im Kaufbereich.
Mit dem Kurs z.Zt. bin ich wieder auf Gleichstand bei meinen letzten Durchschnittspreis den ich bezahlte.

Hier ein aelteres Video von KRE:

http://www.smartstox.com/interviews/KRE.php

Gruss

Eldo

Gutso, bei so einer Schlammschlacht kann man viel lernen oder profitieren wenn man diese richtig beurteilt.

David Bond, Buddy von Ray hat (siehe Sterling thread) Bob Moriarty nun eine Retourkutsche gegeben.

http://goldseitenforum.de/thre…?postid=146349#post146349

Am besten man liest beide Berichte von Bob und David in der mitte damit man einen Eindruck bekommt.

Have a nice day

Gruss

Eldo

Le Metropole Members,

IMF would sell gold because European central banks won't anymore

Submitted by cpowell on 06:50PM ET Wednesday, January 31, 2007. Section: Daily Dispatches
By Michael Kosares
Centennial Precious Metals, Denver
http://www.usagold.com/
Wednesday, January 31, 2007

I don't think we are going to see any sale of gold by the International Monetary Fund. It looks like the Central Bank Gold Agreement's inability to reach the 500-tonne quota for the 2006 agreement year (only 350 tonnes were sold) left more of an impression than any of us realized.

The IMF's Committee of Eminent Persons, which interestingly included the head of the Chinese central bank and former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan, is saying essentially that the IMF "could" supply the shortage left if the Central Bank Gold Agreement can't meet the 500-tonne allotment in the future. This translates to market neutral because, theoretically, whether the IMF sold gold or not, no more than 500 tonnes would go on the market over the CBGA year.

It seems that the gold banking system needs roughly 50 tonnes of gold liquidity each month to keep from locking up. There is a natural deposit attrition rate in the gold banking business. In the natural flow of things, individuals and entities request their gold deposits back, and somehow 50 tonnes seems to get the job done. That 50 tonnes has to come from somewhere, and lately the European Central Bank system has been stepping up when the liquidity gets tight -- as the gold supplier of last resort. It may that the European banks have signalled their intent to withdraw further from the CBGA allotments (maybe France is about to back out of sales?), and the IMF group is trying to fill the gap.

And maybe more depositors might want their gold back, since many of them are stretched Third World banks and depositors from places like the Persian Gulf and fewer central banks are willing to part with their gold.

At any rate, it's an odd assortment of "eminent persons" in this IMF group, and we should take note of its composition: Andrew Crockett, former director general of the Bank for International Settlements and currently president of JPMorgan Chase International; Mohamed A. El-Erian, president and CEO of Harvard Management Co.; Greenspan; Tito Mboweni, governor of the South African Reserve Bank; Guillermo Ortiz, governor of the Bank of Mexico; Hamad Al-Sayari, governor of the Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency; Jean-Claude Trichet, president of the European Central Bank; and Zhou Xiaochuan, governor of the People's Bank of China.

You can always tell that Greenspan has had a hand in the festivities when you read sentences like the following: "The limited sale of fund gold should be ring-fenced to exclude further sales and subject to strong safeguards to limit their market impact."

There is no doubt in my mind that China would like to see the IMF sell ALL its 3,217 tonnes of gold, particularly if China might become a primary recipient. Without any fanfare China would happily write the check for all 3,217 tonnes. Otherwise, I can't imagine why the Chinese central bank might have been included on this IMF committee, unless it was to demonstrate that the system is at least trying to get them some gold. Perhaps the Harvard Management Co. is thinking similarly (smile).

To round this off, we should remember that the last time British Chancellor Gordon Brown tried to get his hands on the IMF's gold, he was stopped dead in his tracks by the U.S. Congress. This new attempt to shake loose the IMF's gold may be happening because the new Congress might be more amenable than the last.

From the view of these "eminent persons," it's at least worth a try. But they may be in for some rough sledding. Key Democrats were opposed to the last IMF gold sale proposal because suppression of the gold price meant reducing the income of Third World gold-mining countries. That's probably why this IMF committee assiduously addressed the price-suppression concerns. We should remember that the United States holds virtual veto power over IMF actions. We'll see if Congress is more amenable this time around, but we have our doubts.

del

The Wallace Street Journal

By David Bond, Editor

The Silver Valley Mining Journal

Setting the Record Straight

Wallace, Idaho – Hidden behind the Internet's many worthy truths is, unfortunately, quite a collection of misinformation, lies, rumour, misunderstanding, ignorance and self-dealing willful conceits and deceits. And never, in our two-decades-plus of web-surfing, have we encountered such an artful weaving together of these latter nasty elements than may be found in a recent screed posted 29th January by Robert Moriarty, owner of the Cayman Islands website "321 Gold" entitled "A Tale Of Two Projects."

The offending screed attempts to hype the virtues of one mining stock with a project here in the Silver Valley of northern Idaho by viciously trammeling its neighbour. The object of Moriarty's boot-licking affections is Strategic Nevada Resources (SNS.V) of Vancouver, B.C.; the object of his venomous contempt is Sterling Mining Co. (SRLM.OB) of Coeur d'Alene and Wallace, Idaho. The companies control, respectively, the Crescent and Sunshine silver mines. One, Sterling, is a near-term (Q 1 2008 ) producer of silver from the Sunshine and current producer in Mexico; the other, SNS, is a promising exploration play on the Crescent.

That the author of "A Tale Of Two Projects" fails to perceive a distinction between these two vastly different types of enterprises reveals already that he is out of his range of expertise. Hackneyed, but the phase "apples and oranges" aptly applies. And his self-touted familiarity with and affinity for the Coeur d'Alene Mining District has been derived from two half day-forays into the Silver Valley, nearly four years apart.

Here, where the mining and silver are, Moriarty's article was greeted with a cacophony of bemusement and anger – not so much for the way it sucked up to SNS (although his guesstimate that the Crescent could produce 10 million ounces of silver/year, which figure, SNS assures us, did not come from them, produced some hearty chuckles: barely did the Crescent ever produce close to 1 million oz/year during its post W.W. II run, and that was with its workings unflooded and with access to Bunker Hill's milling and Sunshine's tailings facilities that it no longer has). No, what angered those who actually live and work in the silver business – at Sunshine and elsewhere – was his suggestion that "every guy now working for Sterling (except perhaps for one) will be putting in his application soon to work at a real mine with real miners."

Well, Moriarty, here's a well-known (except to you and your unfortunate disciples) and stone-hard fact: There isn't a western hard-rock miner alive who wouldn't crawl through broken glass to work for Sterling's Sunshine Mine manager, Mike McLean. McLean was well-liked and well-respected by his union crew during his previous 1995-2001 stint at the Sunshine, knows the mine intimately, and is the driving force behind the new Sterling Tunnel, now more than half-way complete and ahead of schedule, whence drill-stations are being cut and from which Sunshine's production miners will have secondary escape-way access, as mandated by federal law.

And if Sterling's operations at Sunshine were somehow substandard, how does one suppose they've been able to hire working miners, millwrights, geologists, engineers, electricians and managers from outfits like Barrick, Hecla, Coeur d'Alene Mines and Stillwater, as well as employ the region's top mine-builders, Atlas-Fausett and Jim Striker, on the tunnel and underground rejuvenations?

Moriarty's egregious and gratuitous impugning of these fine people working for Sterling – many of them neighbours and a few of them decades'-long friends of ours – will go long remembered here in the Silver Valley and by more savvy students of the silver market than his pump-and-dump treacle attracts. What we have at Sterling, at the Sunshine, is a vision, however "stumbling" it might appear to someone as breathtakingly ignorant of the intricacies and nuances of underground hard-rock precious metal mining as Moriarty, a commitment to long-term, sustainable operation and silver production at Sunshine – not a flash-in-the-pan publicity stunt of the sort 321 Gold's coxswain seems to prefer.

We are surprised Moriarty regards his initial write-up of Sterling with regret. He piled on gobs and gobs of SRLM stock at penny-stock prices weeks before he told his readers it was a hot deal, and he made a killing if he sold. He's made out like a bandit if he hasn't sold. Sterling's lunge from pennies to $13 was neither forecast nor warranted, and the market quickly corrected. That is hardly the fault of SRLM management, though Moriarty would have you believe it so.

The bag of crap Moriarty threw at Sterling had been festering for quite awhile, back to November of 2005 and even earlier. Sterling was reeling from what appeared at the time to be a well-orchestrated run on its stock. Behind the scenes were Moriarty and a tiny group of greedhead shareholders who thought that if they could breach Sterling's management, they could gain control of the fabulous Sunshine and its known reserves and resources of 200-mil oz of silver for a couple of thousand bucks and the prize from the bottom of a Cracker Jacks box. They mis-fired dreadfully, garnering all of some 3 percent of the shareholder vote in an attempt to take control. In the very midst of this was Moriarty, emailing SRLM President Ray DeMotte, cc'd to us, that DeMotte could go quietly or he could go nastily. Those were his words, like some hangin' judge from an old western b-movie. Ray held his ground till the shareholder vote, then turned his attention back to getting the mine reopened. But the naysayers had launched a Sterling-bashing website, and a PR and share-selling campaign to register their spoilt-child tantrum. Moriarty called DeMotte's secretary "trailer trash" and cc'd her. Yes, he got that cruel.

Moriarty emailed this writer that he was prepared to go public with information that Sterling had purchased our favor by fitting us up with a silk Armani suit, and sprinkled it with other ugly, untrue, tidbits and threats. We responded to Moriarty to the effect that if he printed what he thought he knew, we'd be measuring his living room in Ft. Lauderdale for carpets, because we planned to own his home and be moving in after the lawsuit for libel was settled. He slunk away, apparently aware that under libel case-law, "malice" means a willful disregard for the truth – "truth" being a reporter's duty to make reasonable efforts to learn the truth of a situation. Which clearly Moriarty, fed disinformation and ego-fueled by others with their own agenda, did not have – for the simple reason that what he thought he knew was false and could be proven false. (As any libel law lawyer will tell you, the best defense against a charge of libel is the truth.)

Again, Moriarty slithered away, but his fury at his cronies' inability to steal the Sunshine Mine away from Sterling obviously has continued to rot and fester. What you read last Monday on 321 Gold was the fermented version of Moriarty's petulant albeit impotent anger.

Well, impotent isn't entirely true. On the Monday of Moriarty's bashing, SRLM lost 40 cents, and SNS gained about that much. We've fielded dozens of phone calls from people wondering what was happening to SRLM's stock, and we've referred them to Robert's rant. It is clear this man can move a market, even for a day, or for as much time as he has spent learning about the Coeur d'Alene Mining District. And we must confess, in the interest of full disclosure, that we owe the geriatric flyboy a favour: we'd bought SNS for C$1.50 just last week – weeks AFTER we'd written up their prospects – and sold out at a nice C$2.05 on Monday. We took those funds and bought 600 shares Sterling for US$2.82 on the Moriarty dip, and are prospering nicely. Which is probably what he's doing, too.

What's tragic is that Strategic Nevada, by all observations a fine company with a great exploration play here, a marketing strategy to rival Ivanhoe's, and supported by several impeccable guys, got caught up in the midst of this massive grudge that Moriarty is holding for the one mining guy who would not get down on his knees and kiss, in public or private, Bob Moriarty's ass. Again, to be trite, SNS and SRLM are apples and oranges. QED. And are each in their own rights excellent plays on the world's richest known primary silver belt. Depends on what you want. You don't need a website, or more school, to make that decision. Do your own due diligence.

There are plenty of credible guys to consult with, although in our hoary years, some of us charge for our time. Spend some time with David and Eric Coffin, who do some of the finest geology-informed reporting in this business. Ask David Morgan what he thinks. And remember that Robert Moriarty holds the likes of Ted Butler, Bill Murphy and Jason Hommel in even lower regard that he reserves for his own readers, so Ray DeMotte and yours truly are in fine company.

Even, should you become desperate, ask me. My inside email address is 999silver@gmail.com. Although be mindful in all these instances of Tom Waits' great line, "I'll tell you all my secrets / But I lie about my past." Meantime, we anxiously await the return of Robert Moriarty to tell us how to mine silver here in the Silver Valley – something we haven't quite got right in the past 130 years, by his lights. I'll bring the blankets.

SA police still 'too white

'2007-2-1 07:13

Nelspruit - The South African Police Service must be below 10% "white" by 2010.

That's according to a confidential report on the latest guidelines for quotas and affirmative action (AA) in the police by commissioner Manoko Aletta Nchwe, who's in charge of the service's career management.

Beeld newspaper has a copy of the report, which is backed by the national commissioner.

The report says that by 2010, the police service must consist of 79% blacks, 9.6% whites, 8.9% coloureds and 2.5% Indians.

At present, the SAPS has 156 180 members, of whom 29 401 are white, that is, between 18% and 19%.

Severance packages

Officers who command the 25 business units in the police have been warned they must comply with the AA guidelines.

Nchwe says attrition can take place through resignations, moving whites to other service points and by offering severance packages.

Dianne Kohler Barnard of the Democratic Alliance said it was typical of the government to ignore the massive crime crisis in South Africa and concentrate instead on transformation.

Beeld

"ANALYTICAL SCHIZOPHRENIA"

Part 2

Thursday 1st February, AD2007

In yesterday's Daily Dig we looked the some of the geo-politics and
supply / demand fundamentals that has driven the oil price up 25% in 7
months to August's 2006 levels of mid $70s.

Market commentators and analysts can be a funny breed, often given to
regular and dramatic changes in mind and outlook. "Philip, we are only
one small political event away from $120 oil" one research analyst told me last August. "Many people just don't realize how thin and fragile the
global crude market truly is," he continued.

Talk about a bullish outlook I thought.

Now in February 2007, Oil is trading around $54, having tested $50 lows
in January. "The energy bull market is over", "Oil prices are going to
crash", "Welcome back low gasoline prices", "Get out of the energy sector while you can" scream financial headlines.

Brainless commentary we can expect from the mainstream financial press, but I was surprised when recently visiting his website to see the same research analyst I spoke to last August, predicting $40 Oil now, a long way from his "one small event away from $120 oil" comment of just six months ago?

What so suddenly changed to adjust his outlook from $120 per barrel all
the way down to $40 per barrel? Is the Middle East any more
geo-politically stable now?

"The Pentagon is believed to be considering options that would allow it to destroy facilities such as Iran's main centrifuge plant at Natanz in a single night of bombing", reads one headline, "plans are under way for a massive bombing strike on sites where Iran is believed to be enriching uranium." Now is the first time since 2003 the US had two aircraft carrier groups stationed in the Persian Gulf. With another carrier group steaming toward the Gulf now, the potential for a widening of the US/Iraq/Iran conflict grows.

Despite the analytical schizophrenia surrounding us, today's long-term
global oil supply / demand fundamentals remain unchanged (i). Other
than one research report released containing fanciful adjustments to
global reserve estimates and the announcements of yet undefined
reserves in one new deep gulf field (ii), the picture remains the same.
Each day global demand grows, commercially viable energy alternatives
fail to arrive, and all the while we burn through vastly more of our energy
staple than we discover or replace. All this is rosy news for the correctly
positioned, long-term value investor.

As Individuals - our job is to equip ourselves with the knowledge that will
help us survive and prosper in our changing world. At Daily Dig - our job
is to dig up the relevant information that will provide you, our valued
readers, with this knowledge.

Sincerely - Philip Judge pjudge@anglofareast.com

(i) We currently consume 1 billion barrels of oil every eleven days globally.

This equals 30 Mega Fields per year. Mega fields are classified as fields that have reserves of over 500 million barrels or the potential to produce over 100,000 barrels per day of oil.

The last two decades have seen new discoveries fall dramatically; 2000
16 new Mega Fields discovered, 2001 8 new Mega Fields discovered,
2002 3 new Mega Fields discovered, 2003 0 new Mega Fields
discovered. The rate at which new Mega Fields are being brought online
lag behind our current rate of use; 2003 7 new Mega Fields brought
online, 2004 11 new Mega Fields brought online, 2005 18 new Mega
Fields brought online, 2006 11 new Mega Fields brought online, 2007 3
new Mega Fields planned to come online, 2008 3 new Mega Fields
planned to come online.

Source ASPO.

Erwarte viel von denen, Minco Gold & Minco Silver

Re: News Releases - Wednesday, January 31, 2007
Minco Mining & Metals Corporation to Spin-Off White Silver
Mountain and Changes its name to Minco Gold Corporation
=======================================================================

Minco Mining & Metals Corporation (TSX: MMM AMEX: MMK) (the "Company")
announces it will proceed with a reorganization and spin-off of its
White Silver Mountain Property to Minco Base Metals Corporation ("Minco
Base Metals") with the intention to build a strong base metals company
in China. The initial ownership of Minco Base Metals will mirror the
shareholder base of the Company, on a pro-rata basis, at the time of
the reorganization with the ratio and record date to be determined by
the Board of Directors of the Company. It is anticipated that Minco
Base Metals will seek a stock exchange listing and complete equity
offerings to further develop the White Silver Mountain property and
acquire additional base metals properties. The spin-off will be subject
to Shareholder approval at the Company's next Annual General Meeting &
Special Meeting along with meeting certain regulatory requirements.

Management believes that separating its assets into two companies, with
Shareholders holding proportionate interests in each company will
provide a significant opportunity to increase overall shareholder
value. The proposed reorganization would provide greater market
awareness and opportunities for the Company's White Silver Mountain
Property. In addition, the separation of the Company's Base Metals
property interests from the Company's Gold property interests will
provide both the Company and Minco Base Metals increased flexibility to
utilize and exploit their respective assets.

Concurrently, the Company has designated the Anba Property (held by the
Joint Venture Company on the White Silver Mountain project) as a
non-material project and does not intend to perform any further work on
the property. As a general policy, the Company does not intend to spend
significant amount of money on a property until it has received all
required approvals.

In connection with the spin-off of Minco Base Metals, the Company
announces it has changed its name to Minco Gold Corporation to reflect
the Company's focus on gold projects in China. The Company's trading
symbol on the American Stock Exchange (AMEX) will be changed to MGH.
The Company's trading symbol on the TSX remains unchanged (MMM). The
Company will commence trading as Minco Gold Corporation on the TSX and
AMEX, as MGH, on February 1, 2007.

About Minco

Minco Mining & Metals Corporation is listed on the Toronto Stock
Exchange and the American Stock Exchange (MMM:TSX AMEX: MMK). The
Company has a portfolio of potential high quality exploration mineral
projects in China, and continues to evaluate a number of gold, base
metal, rare earth and specialty metals projects in China. For more
information on Minco and our properties, please visit the website at
http://www.mincomining.ca or contact Eric Bertsch or Ute Koessler at
1-888-288-8288 or (604) 688-8002 info@mincomining.ca.

ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD
"Ken Z. Cai"
President, CEO & Director

Auratico.... ;)genauso sehe ich es auch, hoffentlich auch mal unser Gutso der es nicht glauben will........sorry, Gutso.
Ich habs dir schon einmal gesagt das Valleyfieber bekommt man gleich bei den Geschichten die sie erzaehlen.
Ich habs schon erwaehnt, solange dort kein Silber produziert wird soll man sich raushalten und wo anders investieren was nicht faellt wie Sterling.

Cheers

Eldo

Ja, die Goldbugs news lesen sich gut, das PPT liest aber mit.

Und zeigt wieder mal dem Wanderer den falschen Weg.

Bin gspannt was beim und hinter den Vollmond passiert, vielleicht passiert das Gegenteil, zur Abwechslung !

Eine Panik News genuegt, dann wird der Markt emotional.

Gnight

XEX

Ich hoffe ihr habt Euch eingedeckt.

Ich muss leider Bob Moriarty zu grossteil recht geben mit seiner Meinung uber Ray und Sunshine, wenn er Pech hat dann wechsel die letzten Mohikaner zu SNS, wenn sie mehr zahlen !
Dort Personal zu bekommen ist nicht einfach, keiner hat Bock in einer Mine zu arbeiten.
Wenn FCO nur 1million USD wollte warum hat Ray 4 mille bezahlt ?
Was laeuft da wieder hinter der Buehne ab ?
Ein Edgar Wallace !
Promises and lies, ich stecke keinen Cent mehr in ganze Tal bis einer endlich was produziert.
Die Sterling und NJMC sitz ich aus oder beim Stoploss fliegen sie raus.
Vergisst nicht die EPA hat auch noch einiges zu sagen.
Die Wahrheit liegt irgendwo in der mitte, SNS fass ich aber auch nicht an bei dem Lob von Bob Moriarty.

Bei FCO habe ich schon einen verdoppler die reisst die Sterling wieder raus.

Nice stories im Silbervalley, seeing is believing !

How about Shoshone Mining ?? die hatte ich auch mal, uber die hat sich Ray den Mund zerissen als ich dort war.
Er sagte dort passiert gar nichts, und bei ihm ?
Anstatt Sunshine auf Vordermann zu kriegen geht er und kauft Land von FCO.

Let's issue more shares for 360m Ounces in the ground.

Who wants some ?

Cheers

XEX

Gefaehrliche Schokolade....

Aids strikes SA's rich

2007-1-30 17:18

Johannesburg - South Africa's Aids epidemic, often regarded by health workers as a disease of the poor, is in fact spreading quickly among the country's richest and best educated people, researchers said on Tuesday.

The study by the Markinor polling firm and the University of South Africa (Unisa) showed a rapid increase in HIV infections in professional people and those with full-time employment - both key to South Africa's hopes to spur economic development.

"The high risk group is growing, it is getting older and it is getting richer," said Carel van Aardt, director of Unisa's Bureau of Market Research. "This could represent a whole new wave of the epidemic."

Tracy Hammond, Markinor's project manager for the study said: "If we thought the Aids epidemic was having bad economic effects already, this could take us to the crisis point."

"This time it is not the employees, it is the employers. It is not the people without bank accounts, it is the people who make investments," Hammond said.

Young people greatest risk

The study challenges widespread assumptions about South Africa's HIV/Aids crisis, which is often described as a disease of the rural poor who lack access to information, treatment and basic health services.

South Africa now has some 5.5 million HIV-positive people out of a total population of some 45 million, giving it an estimated overall prevalence rate of about 11% and one of the worst Aids caseloads in the world.

The new study examined some 3 500 South Africans between the years of 2002-2005, a poll engineered to reflect the country's racial and economic demographics.

Overall, the study identified young people below the age of 30 as being at greatest risk for HIV, as most previous research has done. But it also found infections rising at alarming rates in the rich and better educated - groups not previously singled out as being at risk.

"We are on the eve of a very scary reality unless we start making some changes," said Hammond.

Up the social ladder

Researchers said there were many possible factors behind the spread of HIV among upper levels of society, among them confused government messages about HIV/Aids, greater disposable income and leisure, and general apathy about safe sex practices.

But whatever the reason, Aids is certainly climbing the social ladder for both black and white South Africans.

Among South Africa's professionals, for instance, the study found a 34% jump in estimated HIV prevalence, rising to 8.3% in 2004 from 6.2% in 2002.

People with full-time jobs - who in South Africa account for only about half the working population - saw estimated HIV-prevalence rise to 19.2% in 2005 from 14.4% in 2002.

Unemployed people, while seeing a bigger percentage jump in HIV prevalence, remained lower in terms of actual prevalence rates with just 18.4% estimated infected in 2005 compared with 11% in 2002.

Hitting people as careers take off

In a further piece of alarming news, the study said HIV infection was growing most quickly in those aged between 30-34, threatening people just as their careers take off.

Overall, the richest third of South Africa's population still has a lower estimated HIV-prevalence than the poorest third, at 8.5% compared with 23.4%.

But the study said new infections were increasing most rapidly in this demographic, rising by 39% between 2002-2005 against only a 14% increase for their poorest compatriots.

Reuters

Edel, ich glaube von einen eigenen thread wird einen nur schlecht wenn man weiter ins Detail geht.

Die Socken vom Wolfowitz war der Lacher des Tages, den schicken wir ein paar.

Hast Recht, reden wir was anderes, Bilderberger etc. ist zu deprimierend anyway.

Let's hope the 640 line will hold.

XEX

Gutso, ist schon interessant wer bei letzten meeting der Bilderberger alles geladen war.(siehe deine liste oben)
Zumindest wissen wir jetzt mehr wer alles im Club und Loge sitzt.
Aendern koennen wir eh nichts ausser den Weltbetrug vorzubeugen und gerade das Gegenteil machen was die uns aufdruecken wollen.

Die ganzen Mannschaft kann man in einen Sack stecken und darauf schlagen, man erwischt immer den richtigen.
Wir werden ganz schoen verarscht wenn man darueber nachdenkt, aber wer zuletzt lacht , der lacht am besten.

Gruss

XEX

Schablonski, alle hier unten gehoeren zu der Bilderberger Gruppe:

News Media

Alexandre Adler, French conservative journalist (2003)
Paul Gigot - Editor of the Editorial Page of The Wall Street Journal; 2003- Present
Martin Wolf - Financial Times columnist
Juan Luis Cebrián - Ex-director of El País Spanish journal, delegated advisor of PRISA
Peter Jennings USA Anchor Man

VIP’S

George Osborne(2006) - Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer 2004-Present
Harald Norvik (2006), former CEO of Statoil.
Josef Ackermann (2005), CEO of Deutsche Bank
Daniel Vasella (2005), Chairman and CEO of Novartis
David L. Aaron, Deputy National Security Advisor
William J McDonough New York Federal Reserve
Étienne Davignon, conference chairman in 2005
William Luti, deputy undersecretary for Near Eastern and South Asian affairs
Former Pentagon advisor Richard Perle

Royalty

Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden, King of Sweden
Juan Carlos I, King of Spain
Queen Sofia of Spain, wife of Juan Carlos I, King of Spain
Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands
Infanta Cristina, daughter of Juan Carlos I, King of Spain
Philippe, Duke of Brabant, Crown Prince of Belgium

Heads of State

Fredrik Reinfeldt, elected Prime Minister of Sweden, 2006 – Present
Margaret Thatcher(1975), former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Jean Chrétien (2003), Canadian Prime Minister, 1993 - 2003
Paul Martin (2003), Canadian Prime Minister, 2003 - 2006
Stephen Harper (2003), Canadian Prime Minister, 2006 - Present
Bill Clinton, (1991), US President, 1993 - 2001
Tony Blair (1993), current Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Kostas Karamanlis (2003), current Prime Minister of Greece
Angela Merkel (2005), current Chancellor of Germany

Le crème de le crème as they say. The list is about as elite as it gets, although the very top or inner

echelon is not listed nor seen in public.