Beiträge von Eldorado

  • DRDGold Ltd. / DRD (NYSE, JNB) und die Derivate

    Wenn die Neger ihre Kohle nicht kriegen dann gibt es eine art Soweto Unruhen ! X( Falls neue blutige Unruhen aufkommen faellt der Rand.
    Die Leute sind sauer auf die Regierung und deren leeren Versprechungen, das kann ich euch sagen. Das Leben ist teuer geworden und die freiheit hat nicht als kosten und arbeitslosigkeit gebracht. Ueber steigende Kriminalitaet brauche ich hier nichts mehr berichten. Das Fass laeuft bald ueber ! 8o



    Gruss


    XEX

  • Thai Guru's Gold und Silber ... (Informationen und Vermutungen)

    hpopth


    Was mich eigentlich immer wundert ist das der ganze goldaktien markt ca. 26 Billion USD wert ist, die Silber Aktien nur ca. 6 Billion USD. ?(
    Coca Cola ist mehr wert als alle beide GM zusammen. :D
    Es gibt Leute wie Warren Buffet und Nationen wie China, die koennten den ganzen markt locker aufkaufen.Ich bin gespannt wann die einkaufen gehen, darauf warte ich auch.Ich vermute man kauft ganz still und heimlich und ganz, ganz, langsam damit die preise nicht explodieren.
    Zwischendurch werden immer aktien mit geringen volumen geshorted und spaeter nach sturz, kauft man das doppelte wieder nach wenn die schwachen ihre aktien verkauft haben. Immer der selbe trick ! ;)



    Enjoy your weekend :P



    Gruss


    Eldorado 8)

  • Das neue Südafrika

    Die zahlen sind offiziell und wesentlich hoeher zur zeit:


    EXISTING ESTIMATES BY THE INDUSTRY


    The only existing estimate of the extent of the theft of gold from mines and refineries in South Africa is the figure provided by the Chamber of Mines of 30 tons valued at approximately R1.58 billion that is estimated to have been stolen during 1996.
    This figure has been mentioned on a number of occasions by the industry. An attempt to establish the origin of this figure revealed the following facts.


    During a visit to a European gold refinery, an official from the South African gold industry was asked what the annual figure was for the theft of gold in South Africa. According to the official concerned, he mentioned the figure of 11 tons for the year 1996. The European refinery representative apparently dismissed this figure claiming that the refinery itself had bought approximately 25 tons of South African gold from unofficial sources during 1996. During a trip to another refinery in Europe, the South African visitor was informed that the refinery in question had bought approximately 7 tons of South African gold from unofficial sources during 1996. The information from both refineries was given to the South African during casual discussions and on an informal basis. Neither of the two refinery representatives was apparently prepared to divulge more information and there was no follow-up to obtain confirmation of these figures from the refineries concerned.


    On the basis of this information, the South African official concluded that a conservative estimate of gold stolen in South Africa during 1996 was 30 tons for the year 1996, although he believed it to be closer to 50 or 60 tons. The information given to the South African visitor could not be verified, nor is there any basis on which to suggest that the information supplied by the European refinery representatives was false. The information is unconfirmed and uncorroborated, however, and was published in the Annual Report of the Chamber without any closer scrutiny of the claims having been undertaken. In order to have a degree of credibility, estimates should be based on projections or calculations derived from a factual basis that can be verified.


    Even though there are no facts available on the basis of which the figure of 30 tons can be confirmed or refuted, the assessments made in this study were not influenced by it. The point of departure for the study was therefore that the extent of theft from gold mines and refineries in South Africa was unknown.


    POLICE STATISTICS



    The Diamond and Gold Branch of the South African Police Service (SAPS) rendered every assistance possible in support of this study. Its national statistics relating to the recovery of unwrought gold and arrests, among others, are set out in figure 1. The information was supplied by the Pretoria headquarters of the Diamond and Gold Branch based, in turn, on statistics supplied by local Diamond and Gold Branch offices in the provinces.


    Figure 1: Police statistics: Theft of gold, 1994-1998
    Unwrought gold 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 Total
    1994-1998
    Unlawful purchases
    Arrests 101 92 153 98 82 526
    Cash paid to suspects, for gold recovered (R) 514 003 827 852 546 926 1 390 022 4 302 922 7 581 725
    Unlawful possession/theft
    Arrests 1 488 1 960 1 607 1 667 1 413 8 135
    Mass (kg) 179 370 151 236 287 1 223
    Value (R) 8 959 215 18 486 057 7 571 655 11 774 887 14 368 263 61 160 077
    Found and/or seized
    Mass (kg) 28 1 24 22 87 162
    Value (R) 1 421 888 6 002 1 214 721 1 122 304 4 333 032 8 097 947
    Source: Diamond and Gold Branch, SAPS, Pretoria, 1999
    "Summary: Mass and value of gold recovered by the police, 1994-1998"
    Year 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 Total
    1994-1998
    Mass (kg) 207 371 175 258 374 1385
    Value (R) 10 381 103 18 492 059 8 786 376 12 897 191 18 701 295 69 258 024



    The mass of unwrought gold recovered nationally by the Diamond and Gold Branch can only be an indicator, albeit a very inadequate one, of the prevalence of theft of gold from mines. These statistics are inevitably based on estimates. Recovered unwrought gold consists of different concentrations, ranging from the gold-bearing ore which thieves carry out of gold mines to well refined gold. To attach an accurate value to such recoveries is difficult. The gold content of a bag of gold-bearing material can only be established once such ore has passed through the processing of a gold mine. Even then such ore is not refined separately from the regular ore recovered by the mine. In practice, the police return unwrought gold that they confiscate to the mine from which, in their assessment, such unwrought gold or gold-bearing material originates. The mine in question thereafter refines the gold bearing material and informs the police of the mass and value of extracted gold. The prime indicator of the extent of unwrought gold seized or found by the police is therefore the value that mines place on the gold-bearing material received from the police.


    The general approach of police headquarters in such cases is to attach a value of R50 to a gram of refined gold. When a mine therefore informs the police that the value of the stolen gold-bearing material handed in by them for processing was R100 000, the police will record the mass of this gold as 2 000 grams. In order to compute annual national statistics, the police add up the value that mines have attached to the unwrought gold and gold-bearing material that were supplied to them for processing and divide the sum by 50 in order to arrive at the estimated mass of the gold. This was also the method applied in arriving at the mass of unwrought gold recovered as set out in figure 1 below. The valuation of R50 per gram of gold is in fact conservative if account is taken of the fact that the average gold price on the London gold market for the years 1994 to 1998 was R53.39 per gram.11


    This method of computing the mass of stolen gold recovered by the police has its shortcomings. Precisely how do mines deal with stolen gold that the police return to them? Do all mines follow the same procedures when processing and determining the value of such unwrought gold? Do all Diamond and Gold branches in the country follow a uniform approach in this regard? It is well known that some top dealers in illicit gold sometimes add gold from Kruger coins to gold bought on the illegal market when smelting the gold for export. This happened in the widely publicised Chemfix case. Should the police confiscate such a consignment, or should the South African syndicate leader sell such gold to a European refinery, the mass of this gold will clearly not provide an accurate reflection of how much gold was stolen from mines and refineries in South Africa. The question of how to reflect the mass of detected gold stolen from mines and refineries is therefore an aspect that requires further examination by both the police and the gold mining sector.


    It has happened, for example, that the police and mines have agreed that the police would not publish information relating to the mass or value of confiscated gold-bearing material returned to the mines. Such information would then clearly not form part of police statistics and would only be available to the gold mines. This was the case in the Welkom area with gold-bearing material that was confiscated during raids on the well-known G Hostel in Thabong township outside Welkom. Clearly, such ad hoc arrangements between the police and the mining industry make it very difficult to obtain accurate statistics relating to the extent of the theft of gold from mines.


    Even if the national statistics supplied by the police were an accurate reflection of the mass of stolen gold recovered by them, it is clear that what they recover can only be a fraction of the actual volumes that are stolen on an annual basis. The regional case study referred to below, and other indicators to which reference is made in this study, confirm this assertion.


    The mass of gold in the summary that follows was arrived at by attaching a value of R50 per gram, based on a division of the total value of the gold recovered by 50. If the actual average gold price per gram over the five-year period — R53.39 per gram — had been used as a measure, the total mass of the gold recovered by the police over this period would have been 1 297 kilograms instead of the 1 385 kilograms reflected above.


    Police statistics (as illustrated in figures 2, 3 and 4) show two different trends. While the number of arrests for unlawfully purchasing gold, for being in unlawful possession of gold and for the theft of gold has shown a gradual decline since the peak reached in 1995, the figures relating to the mass and value of gold recovered by the police show a marked increase since 1996. It suggests that the quantity of gold-bearing material that is being recovered or confiscated by the police is higher per person arrested than in the past. This could also indicate a greater sophistication among gold smugglers and thieves enabling them to deal in larger quantities of gold. This would mean that they are more difficult to arrest than was the case three or four years ago. The decrease in the number of arrests, however, could also have been influenced by a general shortage of personnel and resources in the various Diamond and Gold Branches in the country.

  • DRDGold Ltd. / DRD (NYSE, JNB) und die Derivate

    Und wenn die minen wieder produzieren dann passiert das wieder.
    Ihr habt ja gar keine ahnung wie viel hier geklaut wird.


    224 illegal miners arrested


    Apr 08 2005 06:50:13:500PM



    Welkom - A total of 224 suspected illegal miners have been arrested in Matjhabeng near Welkom in the past two weeks, police said on Friday.
    Spokesman Inspector Stephen Thakeng said most of the suspects would appear in the Welkom Magistrate's Court on Wednesday.


    "They have been charged with theft, the unlawful possession of gold-bearing material, tresspassing and of contravening the Mine Health and Safety Act."


    Some had already appeared in court and were being held pending bail applications.


    Thakeng said the police, after seizing an amount of cash, followed up information that suspected illegal miners were active at a gold mine in the municipal area of Matjhabeng.


    "They were found in possession of gold-bearing material and diamonds and one illegal miner was found dead underground."


    The investigation was continuing, Thakeng said.

  • Thai Guru's Gold und Silber ... (Informationen und Vermutungen)

    Beitrag von gold-eagle.com:



    http://www.gold-eagle.com/edit…_05/hommelberg040805.html


    Summary:


    Gold is trading nowhere near an historic high as some experts do suggest. Historical averages do suggest the following prices for Gold as being historic highs in today's environment :


    Projected Historic Highs for Gold according to:


    DOW/GOLD ratio : +$2000
    Gold Long term average : +$1500
    Gold/Oil ratio : +$1500
    Gold/CRB : +$700

  • DRDGold Ltd. / DRD (NYSE, JNB) und die Derivate

    Ulfur


    Ich fische dann deinen wieder ab bei 0.60 USD :D :D :D
    Das erste drittel wurde verkauft bei 0.92 USD mit 6% netto gewinn in einer woche. Somit war es bis jetzt , die richtige entscheidung.
    Dieses Hippo bekomme ich noch im griff, so oder so ! ;)
    Laut meinen Charts geht es ca. naechste woche bergauf beim JSE-Gold Index.


    XEX

  • Cortez Trend - Nevada

    (BVG.V)


    Von den ganzen haufen minen im cortez trend hat sich Bravo am besten gehalten,ist sogar gestiegen mit 14% seit aufnahme .
    Leider nur am Radar, bei mir :( :(
    Mein Tipp vom 31.3. stimmte,jedoch den wettschein vergessen abzugeben. X( :D


    frr


    Da wird sich noch mehr abspielen in Nevada,da hast du voellig recht. ;)


    Gruss


    XEX 8)

  • Thai Guru's Gold und Silber ... (Informationen und Vermutungen)

    Oft kommt die frage auf, soll ich jetzt einsteigen ?


    Sicher, aber !!


    Verlust Chance : ?(


    Bei seniors GM - 30%
    Und bei Juniors - 50%


    Das muss jeder bereit sein zu verlieren , sonst braucht er gar nicht einsteigen in der achterbahn gold und silber minen, sowie tiefminen !


    Wenn man den magen nicht hat, sollte man besser muenzen oder barren kaufen.





    XEX