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    ich denke trotzdem gold hat seinen höhepunkt fast gesehen und wird sich nun vierteln.


    ""jens erhardt spricht in der finanzwoche von weiter steigenden goldpreisen und er ist ja sowas wie der deutsche guru."" :D



    ""nachdem ich nun drei jahre eine nullnummer mit meinen minen gefahren bin ist eben angst da wieder ins minus mit zu rutschen.""


    .... hast du die falschen Minen gekauft ????


    ausserdem ist gold eine fahnenstange und laut den worten mehrerer kurz vor dem crash


    Korrektur ist ein besseres Wort, die Meinung vo meheren, wer sind die ueberhaupt und was wissen die schon. ?(.


    @ Screener


    Hast monatelang mitgelesen und nie was gesagt bis jetzt, nun aber kommen deine ""Warnungen"" oder Bedenken..


    Sorry, aber jetzt muss ich gleich lachen, vierteln" dann Gold bei 355 Dollar ??? :D :D


    Also du sieht hier zu rot oder bist eventuell ein Banker der uns Angst einjagen will oder ein Anleger der den Glauben verloren hat.


    Nichts fuer ungut, ich glaube du bist vom andern Camp oder falsch informiert hier auf diesen Gebiet.


    Deine Warnungen und Sorgen sind alter Schnee von gestern fuer mich.


    In dem Geschaeft braucht man Geduld und Nerven wie Drahtseile sowie die richtige Auswahl von Aktien.


    Ich habe mein Geld/Minen verfuenffacht in 10 Jahren, meine Minenaktien liegen im Moment bei 7% im plus.


    Wie lange soll denn der gelobte Fiat Dollar steigen das Gold damit runter geht um 25% ??


    Wird eher umgekehrt sein. :D


    Die naechsten 8 Jahre sind Rohstoffe und Edelmetalle die Renner, wake up man !


    Verkauf auch dann sofort deine Minen wenn du anderer Meinung bist und beiss dich spaeter in den A.... wenn diese sich mindestens verdoppelt haben.


    Meiner Meinung bist du zu frueh vom Zug abgesprungen mit deinen Optionen.


    Wenn du jetzt Zweifel hast dann renne ganz schnell und verkaufe nun deine Minen.

    Die Angst ist ueberall, es kann Dir deshalb keiner fuer Uebel nehmen.


    Die Dividenden die die Minen eines Tages ausspucken sind wesentlich hoeher als die Zinsen der Amerikaner, schau mal zurueck wie das mal war in der Vergangenheit.


    Just wait.... and enjoy your ""safe cash"". :D


    Gold geht auf die 1000 Dollar in diesen Jahrzehnt, das ist meine Meinug dazu.


    Sage uns doch lieber wo man mehr Geld verdient als mit Gold und Silber Investments in den naechsten 5-7 Jahren, ..das wuerde mich mal interessieren zur Abwechslung.


    Die HUI 160 Propheten hatten wir schon zur genuege,die sind aber nun still wie eine Maus bei HUI 240.


    Nimm mir das nicht fuer Uebel, ich bin da gerade aus.


    A Soldier dies once and a coward dies thousand death !


    Go GATA , the Dollar gets flushed, not Gold !


    Mfg


    XAX

    Before going through the mechanics of evaluation of the Commitment of
    Traders report (COT), it is important to understand why the evaluation
    of this report is crucial to your understanding of the price setting
    mechanism of the Futures Market.

    Regardless of what rumor you may read or hear the fact remains that
    the price for commodities are set on the Futures exchanges around the
    world and none is bigger or better recognized than the American markets,
    both Chicago and New York. The London market is frequently mentioned but
    really is a non-event in precious metals, but is significant in the
    base metals.

    There are several reasons why the commercial interests hold the upper
    hand in determination of the price setting mechanism. Conventional
    wisdom holds that the actual commercial entities that use the product,
    wood, cotton, silver, or any other real commodity have the most knowledge
    and therefore are able to have a much more accurate “feel” for the
    market and perhaps even a 6th sense about where the price should be at any
    given point in time.

    This accepted rational prevents many potential investors from even
    looking at the commodity sector and the fact that trading futures is a
    very difficult and demanding discipline. Most people actually lose trading
    futures and in most cases lose to the professional commodity traders.
    However, this fact should not prevent us from examining as much
    pertinent data as possible to help us determine the response of the silver
    market.

    The Game


    The silver trading game is one that is played over and over again.
    Essentially, we can start at the beginning of one cycle and once this
    “theoretical” cycle is analyzed simply hit the replay button and watch the
    action unfold essentially the same way again and again. However, as the
    market matures as it is now doing, more participation will take place
    in the market and the open interest will continue to increase. However,
    the basic principles will not change until the physical silver market
    usurps the paper market. We are not too far off from that eventuality in
    my view so please bear in mind that this outline is valid to a certain
    point only and as long as you are trading from the long or buy side.
    Many have asked me over the years in all sincerity why can’t this
    continue forever? The answer is simply that paper silver does not equal real
    silver and the real physical actual metal will triumph over all other
    types of claims. Silver mining shares, silver certificates, pool
    accounts, will all be in secondary positions to those that own physical silver
    unencumbered in any way. The only unencumbered silver available through
    the exchange is a fully paid warehouse receipt (COMEX certificate) held
    by the owner (not the broker or dealer) and the silver is simply being
    stored in a Comex approved banking facility.

    Price activity moving into the future

    There are other analysts out there that seem to almost have an urgency
    about them, for example once the precious metals move up it will be so
    explosive that it will take your breath away. My thoughts are a bit
    different and I have researched and thought about this a great deal.

    It is important that I provide this caveat however. Everything is in
    place for both silver and gold to take off and explode from here and it
    is possible, however I truly believe that it is too early for this to
    take place. Secondly, it is important for us to understand how we define
    explode. Silver moving from under five to over eight might be looked at
    as an explosion but it was really confirmation that the public is
    finally accepting silver as an investment.

    These markets will continue upward and typical market behavior will
    take place in my view, meaning that the primary trend will be upward but
    corrections will take place from time to time and then we will
    experience times where the metals will languish in a range and seem almost
    boring. This is typical market behavior and I expect both gold and silver
    to exhibit this type of trading activity. However, to be perfectly clear
    the last phase of the Bull Market is the explosive or what I refer to
    as the Greed/Panic phase. This is where the metals seem to rise day
    after day and the moves become dramatic, the main financial media is
    covering the gold quotes more often and some mainstream analysts are then
    recommending gold to their clients.

    This again is typical of markets and most early investors get gleeful
    but must remember to adhere to their exit strategy. The hardest job I
    have is giving a clear sell signal!

    Danke Tschonko, der Bericht hilft um ein wenig Klarheit zu sorgen.
    2.40 USD ?..... wieder ein Kissen schmeissen ? :D


    Ich hoffe es geht nun Bergauf anstatt weiter Bergab.


    Das Wort ""actually"" habe ich in den Report nicht gefunden, nur "" it appears.""


    Hawedere


    XAX

    Inoffiziell sind mehr im Ausland,in welchen Land muss man schon 20% des Einkommens fuer die persoenliche Sicherheit ausgeben.?




    Where have all the whites gone?



    October 08 2005 at 04:28PM

    By Michael Schmidt


    South Africa's white population's growth rate is declining - but there appears to be a massive surge of people reclassifying themselves coloured :D in order to improve their upward mobility.


    The Bureau of Market Research (BMR) at Unisa found in a study that the average annual population growth rate dropped from 1,5 percent a year for the 1996- to-2001 period, to 0,87 percent per annum for the 2001-to-2005 period.


    But the slowing population growth rate was not enough to give the government a break from straining to reach unattainable development targets, said BMR researcher Hendrik Steenkamp, because the country's reported economic growth of 4% was largely jobless growth.


    'This needs to be unpacked'
    In this, Dr Clifford Odimegwu, director of Wits University's demographics project, was in agreement.


    On average, the study found, the total population experienced a net growth of 398 000 people a year between the last census in 2001 and this year.


    Coloureds experienced 1.17 percent per annum growth, Africans 0.96 percent and Asians 0.89 percent. But whites suffered a -0.05 percent decline.


    This net loss of 2 420 whites over the past five years was probably due in part to emigration patterns, said Steenkamp, noting that there had been a significant undercount in predominantly white residential areas because of the "iron gates and Rottweiler effect" that kept census-takers at bay.


    But there are other social forces at work as well: the continuation of official race classification in the guise of affirmative action in the post-apartheid era has seen the self-defined coloured population soar from 3,6 million people in 1996 to an unlikely 4 million people in 2005.


    Steenkamp said the figures showed that even the coloured population's growth rate was slowing, relative to previous estimates, so he doubted that any current "self-re-classification" was much of a factor.


    But Odimegwu said it was possible that blacks were increasingly reclassifying themselves coloured to improve their upward mobility, especially in the Western Cape.


    "This needs to be unpacked," he said.


    The statistics game in South Africa was still a hit-and-miss affair, with a 17 percent undercount in Census 2001, which gave a total of 44,8 million South Africans - revised upwards in the middle of this year - to 46,9 million thanks to, among other factors, better mortality information.


    Steenkamp said there had to have been undercounts of as much as 40 percent in some districts for a 17 percent average. The HIV prevalence of 10 percent of the population was also having an effect, he said.


    Steenkamp's study also shows that three quarters of South Africa's 1,1 million Asians live in KwaZulu-Natal, almost 60 percent of all coloureds live in the Western Cape, while almost 40 percent of South Africa's 5,2 million whites live in Gauteng and nearly 20 percent in the Western Cape.


    For reasons that are still unclear, Gauteng's total number of residents this year is - at 8,5 million - significantly down on the 8,8 million given by Census 2001.

    Guter Vorschlag von Hommel, FSR und SLW sowie SSRI machen das schon. Kauft das Crimex Silber Lager auf. :D
    Das dieses noch kein super reicher gekauft hat ist mir eh ein Raetsel.
    Wo sind da die Arabischen und Kaeufer aus China bis jetzt mit ihrem Fiat Dollars ??
    Kann die mal einer aufwecken. ;(


    Hier was neues von Gata:


    Le Metropole Members,


    Ed Wener has served commentary at The Toulouse-Lautrec
    Table entitled, "Did they only sell 500 tonnes? An Update."


    "In other words, 22 tonnes of the 26.9 tonnes sold are
    recorded in the Sept 2005 report leaving 4.9 tonnes not
    included in the WAG2 first year totals. To this we can
    add the final 3 tonnes sold in the last week of the
    agreement. We therefore get to the magic 500 tonnes sold
    (4.9 plus 3.0 plus 492.2 tonnes). However if we also add
    4.9 tonnes and 3 tonnes to my total of 566.7 tonnes we get
    total first year sales of 574.6 tonnes. From this we may
    or may not subtract the 22.6 tonnes the Swiss sold."


    As GATA's Chris Powell oft says, "GATA has uncovered
    the secret to the financial universe." Gold is headed well
    above $1,000 per ounce and we know WHY and HAVE SAID SO
    for years.


    The central/bullion banks have pulled off the most obvious scam
    in financial market history and GATA has caught them.
    :))


    Ed's piece is a fine academic update on the facts. Little
    by little GATA will destroy The Gold Cartel based on those
    facts.

    Edel Man, gute positionen sind das in deinen Depo.
    Bis auf MAD und RSM sind die alle auch bei mir vertreten


    Die Fragezeichen koennten ein Rufzeichen werden,die sind nur ins stecken geraten IMO.
    Keine Sorge um Cristina,die hat sich nun eingepegelt. :]


    Schaut mal auf MR.TO die finde ich preiswert, noch besser SWG.TO.


    Hoerte gerade einen Report mit David Morgan :


    1st Hour with Jim and the Gang (bei ca 47 min.)
    Tim Wood, Paul Nolte, Dr. Joe Duarte, David Morgan & Frank Barbera
    http://www.financialsense.com/Experts/2005/Morgan.html


    Morgan sagte er erwartet einen Pullback naechste Woche da die shorts enorm hoch sind.


    Seniors werden zur Zeit mit +36% premium gehandelt zum Net Asset Value wobei Juniors mit -18% Discount gehandelt werden. :D


    Darum gut ausgewaehlte Juniors ins Depo, die steigen noch am meisten.


    Naechste Woche wird wieder interessant, Silber macht nun wie Gold es machte und schaffte, den dritten Anlauf ueber 8 Dollar, diese Marke muss weg, dann ist der Weg frei auf die 10 Dollar.


    Wir sind in Phase 2 des Bullmarket, jedoch erstmal eine kurze Korrektur meinte er. :rolleyes:


    Mfg


    XAX


    Bin mir sicher ihr habt genug Missiles fuer das PPT zum abfeuern bereit.

    Valueman dir gehts mit Sterling viel besser als ich bei 3.90 USD.
    Ich habe eine Menge davon, zu viel,ca.0.8% der outstanding shares.


    Hoffentlich kommt bald die listing af der Amex.


    Die muss ich stutzen um die haelfte bei Ausgleich und auf was solides wie WTZ kaufen.


    MGN die hat echt ueberrascht, wie immer man verkauft dann steigt der Kurs.


    So lasse ich nun die liegen denn ich habe genug rumgeschaufelt und gekauft in den letzten Monaten.


    Feindosiert sozusagen, mal schaun was die nun machen.


    Viel Glueck mit was immer ihr gekauft habt, hauptsache wir kommen alle zum Ziel.



    Mfg


    XAX

    "At all times sincere friends of freedom have been rare, and its triumphs have been due to minorities." ---Lord Acton


    The AM Fix came in at $472, revealing the continuing cash market strength even as the gold price rises – just what John Brimelow keeps reporting and has done better than anyone else in the world for a very long time.


    Republic Bank came out as a seller, taking gold down $2 on the day. However, as mentioned in MIDAS last night, the "new" buyers in the gold market were waiting for the price dip and gold roared back, going up more than $3 for the Comex trading session. Contributing to the sharp comeback was a large order from Goldman Sachs, thought to be for a customer (veteran Café members will recall this happening once before as gold took off).


    While reeling, The Gold Cartel continues to do all it can to keep gold from blowing out to the upside. A sharp move up could seriously disrupt the US bond market. Deutsche Bank bombed gold, stopping the surging rally in its tracks. However, after another dip gold came right back to the highs before drifting off on the close.


    The gold open interest rose 3167 contracts to 369, 840. Not much for such a substantial move in gold yesterday. Quite remarkable, actually. Tells me allies of The Gold Cartel are no longer enamored with the cabal and their shorting of the market. In the past a $6 gold move up, at elevated levels, might have moved the OI up 15,000 contracts.


    The gold open interest is lower than where it was when the gold price was $30 lower. This means we could easily get another 100,000 in new spec buying to send gold up another $75 per ounce from here.


    One of the tip-offs today for such superb gold action was how silver held when Republic took the gold price down. It remained 7 cents HIGHER. Yep, good I haven’t had a cold this past week. My "smeller" was right on.


    It is very important to keep in mind that silver is like no other market. It can go absolutely bonkers in a day or two. I mean like silver could go $10 bid in a blink. Been there, been a part of that sort of action.

    Peak Silver


    Edgar J. Steele


    "To the Moon, Alice! To the Moon!"


    --- Ralph Kramden, played by Jackie Gleason, to his wife (played by Audrey Meadows) on The Honeymooners.


    Peak Silver is a concept whose time now has come. There really can no longer be any question as to whether we have reached the point of Peak Silver, save that suggested by silver's current market price. As we shall see, that price is an aberration which inevitably will be swept aside by the tidal force of massive market forces.


    There can be no question but that whatever silver now exists, including the ever-more-difficult-to-extract ore still in the ground, is all the silver that ever will exist.


    What's more, unlike gold, virtually all the silver ever mined has disappeared via usage, while almost all the gold ever mined still exists in usable form, not that anybody really uses gold for anything. In fact, silver today is a much rarer precious metal than is gold.


    Go back and read that last sentence again. I'll wait for you right here.....Good. Now go read it again.


    Silver's relative scarcity is a vitally-important concept that simply has yet to sink into the minds of almost everybody in the world today. Else, why does silver trade for only $7 and change per ounce, versus nearly $470 per ounce of gold? Stand by, because all that is about to change. First, though, let's make the basic general case for precious metals as an investment.


    If used solely as a money substitute, gold (like silver, platinum and palladium) finds its demand extremely sensitive to price changes. In other words, the demand for precious metals as money is price elastic. When the price of precious metals goes up, demand goes down. Ergo, the demand for precious metals must have declined a lot, you might say, because their prices have soared in recent years. Wrong.


    Why are today's gold and silver prices half again as high as just a few years ago (many would say gold is almost 100% higher, but they point to a very brief time when it traded at around $260 per ounce)? Because the international value of the dollar has fallen by a third in the same time frame, that's why. Gold and silver haven't gotten more expensive. They are still the same old prices, just dressed in new, inflation-adjusted dollars.


    The price increases seen in both gold and silver amply illustrate my book's contention that they are "particularly good means of transporting wealth from one side of an economic meltdown to the other." (Defensive Racism, Ch 12 - Money's End Game: Depression II) The bad news, for those who haven't yet noticed, is that America's economy is in rapid meltdown right now, just as it has been for the past several years. The worse news: The modern meltdown has only just begun and now is showing signs of rapid acceleration, as America's mortgage, bond and stock bubbles, created by the Federal Reserve's (criminally) excessive easy money policies, have begun to burst.


    I call what is happening today the "modern" meltdown because today's dollar already is worth something less than 2 cents in 1914 dollars. Prior to 1914, the dollar had been stable, with zero inflation, for well over a century. What happened in 1914? Why, the Federal Reserve System was created, so as to "stabilize the value of the dollar," if you can believe it! Look, I couldn't just make something this ludicrous up. Look it up for yourself if you don't believe me. But, this is both a digression and a topic about which books have been written, perhaps one of the best of which is Eustace Mullins' Secrets of the Federal Reserve. My own book talks about money, precious metals and the Federal Reserve system extensively in its latter chapters, too.


    Today's dollar has only one way to go: down. And it is a lot further to the bottom than one might imagine, despite the perspective provided by 1914. As I said on August 15, 2005: "A falling dollar couldn't be a surer bet than it is right this moment, here at the very tippy-top of the fifth and most prodigious bear market rally for the dollar since it started caving three years ago (and subsequently lost 1/3 of its value through the end of 2004)."


    Preserving your wealth is more than a good enough reason to convert as many of your assets as possible right now into the form of precious metals, especially the sort you personally hold, such as rare coins and bar and coin bullion. Mining stocks are more volatile, thus possess more upside potential, but also carry significant risk in the event of a complete collapse of the economy.


    Also on August 15, I said the following about buying gold and silver: "Back up the truck, boys and girls. Do it now." Since then, leading American and Canadian mining stocks have risen 20%. The spot prices of gold and silver are up about 5% in the same time period.


    If my wife would let me, I would sell the ranch, buy gold and silver with the proceeds, then rent for the next two or three years. Women. :D


    That is the basic case for precious metals. Now for Peak Silver. Remember our mantra from above: Silver today is a much rarer precious metal than is gold.


    Yes, there still is much more silver in the ground than there is gold - eight times as much. Historically, we have pulled about eight times as much silver from the ground as we have gold, a ratio which has declined only slightly with today's production. Called the "poor man's gold," silver typically has been the least expensive of all the precious metals because it also has been the most plentiful. That was before industry began to use silver in significant quantities, however.


    Silver has almost countless modern industrial applications, with both technology and population increases driving demand higher every day. Silver's thermal and electrical conductivity is unparalleled, making it the metal of choice for micro-circuitry. Silver also plays a major role in the medical field, due to its natural antibiotic capability. What's more, silver is one of the few metals that does not corrode, making it essential in modern electrical switches of every sort (including your house and your car). And, yes, the photographic industry continues to consume about a quarter of all silver made available. Silver demand is increasing by leaps and bounds. What's little known is that silver demand has outstripped production for years.


    During my lifetime (that's "modern times" to you, despite how you might feel about Bogart movies) we have been using silver a great deal faster than we mine it. Why hasn't the price of silver gone up before this (faster than necessary to counter inflation, that is)? Because the huge, above-ground inventories of silver built up prior to my lifetime (pre Bogie) were added to production in order to meet ongoing demand, that's why. Well, guess what? The stored-up silver now is gone. Just now, in fact. That, or those stores will run out within the next few months, depending upon whose figures you believe.


    From here on out, we must live on current silver production alone, all while the non-investment demand for silver continues to grow. We either just passed or are about to reach the point of Peak Silver. In other words, never again will above-ground gold be more rare than silver. That's never again...as in NEVER AGAIN.


    Nor will people be melting down their necklaces and heirloom cutlery at anything less than several times the current price of silver. The labor component of such trinkets simply is too high when compared to something like gold, which does see a great deal of jewelry turned in for reprocessing whenever its price jumps.


    Owing to the huge industrial demand for silver, which simply does not exist for gold except in fashioning bathroom faucets for Arab oil sheiks, Peak Silver will reflect the price-inelastic demand generated by industrial applications.


    The gold-to-silver price ratio also has risen well above the historic mean of 40:1 in recent years, suggesting that either gold will decrease in value or silver will increase. By many traditional measures ("bundle of stocks," "suit of clothes," etc.), gold already is grossly undervalued, due to government rigging of the price via the orchestrated sale and purchase of financial derivatives (again, see my book for a discussion of how gold derivatives temporarily can convert even gold into a fiat currency).


    Before silver is done, however, not only should/will/must it revert to the historic gold/silver mean ratio, suggesting a commensurate price for silver of $62.50 per ounce once gold becomes fairly priced. However, silver's scarcity should cause it to surpass even gold's price. Even if I am dead wrong about any upcoming increase in the price of gold, today's gold price alone, when divided by 40, suggests a "mean-ratio value" for silver of $11.75, which is a tidy 60% rise over today's actual silver price!


    Why does our government rig financial markets? For the money, of course. Your money. Maintaining monetary stability is a lie, because we had perfectly stable money before the Federal Reserve System was handed control of our money supply. The mark of perfectly stable money is zero inflation, as in no inflation whatsoever. People have forgotten that such is possible and now accept 3% inflation as normal, and seem to view what is about to happen as a temporary inconvenience. People have forgotten the lesson of Depression I.


    Yes, what is about to happen is so significant that it will cause us to start numbering our economic depressions, just as we do our world wars. Speaking of which, if you think WWII following Depression I was just coincidence, then you probably don't realize that we already have seen the beginnings of WWIII, which truly is a story for another day.


    Unlike gold, silver will not be confiscated. There simply is too little of it around and the dentists couldn't handle the workload. Remember that the Hunt brothers very nearly cornered the world silver market a generation ago. Today, the amount of silver available not only is less, due to the massive reserve depletion that has taken place, but the price is lower than before, even in inflation-adjusted terms (government rigging, don't forget). How low is the price of silver? Well, it is well within the power of a great many individuals (each of them, not all together) to purchase every last ounce of silver that exists above ground today.


    This point bears repetition: Silver today is a much rarer precious metal than is gold. Recall our discussion above concerning the price inelasticity of the demand for oil. That goes several times over for silver. Per production unit of consumer and industrial goods and equipment, the consumption of silver is exceedingly small, so that industrial-demand-driven prices are very inelastic. In other words, the price of silver could triple and add but, perhaps, a penny (that's a dollar in future Greenspanbacks) to the cost of your next TV set. Even a hundred-fold increase in the price of silver would not affect the purchase price of most industrial and consumer goods by much. Or a thousand-fold increase, for that matter.


    "To the Moon, Alice." That's where the price of silver is headed, now that we have hit Peak Silver. To the Moon.


    As I said, back up the truck !.



    7 October 2005

    Le Metropole Members,


    Midas du Metropole has served commentary at The James
    Joyce Table entitled, "Fed To Planet Wall Street: We Have
    Lost Control Of The Gold Market!"


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    Would You Like to Pay
    by Check, Cash -- or Gold?
    :D


    James Turk's Quixotic Quest:
    An Online Payment System
    Based Entirely on Bullion

    By Craig Karmin
    The Wall Street Journal
    Saturday, October 8, 2005

    James Turk thinks he has a solution to worries about a
    weaker dollar: Stop using cash to pay for things -- instead,
    pay with gold.

    A handful of companies are pitching services that let
    people make payments to one another denominated in gold,
    much as they might wire cash through a bank account. Amid soaring bullion prices and simmering concerns about the
    health of the U.S. economy, they are finding a small but promising market.

    One of the main providers, GoldMoney.com, based in the
    British Channel Islands and founded by Mr. Turk, currently
    has 23,000 users, he says, more than double the number a
    year ago. His company followed on the heels of e-gold.com,
    a West Indies-based company started by a Florida oncologist
    that has offered electronic gold payments since 1996. A
    handful of other competitors, with names such as
    e-bullion.com, also have sprung up.

    "Gold's historic role has always been as the world's
    currency," says Mr. Turk, a 58-year-old former banker and
    self-described "gold bug." That is a term more often
    applied to fringe characters who own gold to protect against market crashes or even Armageddon.

    "Some gold bugs are very fervent," Mr. Turk says.

    Still, he shares their belief that governments ultimately
    give in to temptation by printing too much money and
    debasing their currencies. He argues that current U.S.
    economic fundamentals -- rising government spending paired
    with an increasing trade deficit -- will inevitably cause
    the dollar to weaken dramatically.

    There are mainstream economists who share some of his
    concerns, even if they disagree with his proposed solution.
    And gold could prove to be a wise investment, because it
    tends to gain value at times of uncertainty. But it is
    hardly a one-way bet. For the past 25 years, holding gold actually has been a good way to reduce wealth. While bullion prices recently hit $472.30 an ounce, their best level since 1988, that is down from $834 an ounce in 1980.

    GoldMoney's users tend to be small-business owners who make regular purchases overseas and worry about currency fluctuations. Jeff Wright, a director for
    software-development company TimeWarp in Colorado Springs, Colo., has been using GoldMoney for more than three years
    to buy software from vendors in Europe and Australia. One benefit, he says, is that everyone avoids
    currency-conversion charges, which can be as much as
    thousands of dollars on large transactions.

    Of course, now he has to worry about volatility in gold prices. "I usually check it twice a week to see how
    things are going," he says.

    Services like these aren't for everybody. For one thing,
    Mr. Wright points out that the first thing he had to do
    was persuade his suppliers to accept payments in gold
    and then set up online accounts with GoldMoney. And the
    gold industry has proven to be rife with scams and swindlers. During the early 1980s, for instance, customers of the International Gold Bullion Exchange in Fort Lauderdale,
    Fla., once the largest gold-bullion dealer in the U.S.,
    were shocked to learn that the gold bars stored in the
    company's vault were made of wood. Thousands of customers
    lost tens of millions of dollars.

    Mr. Turk says he often fields questions about
    authenticity, and points out that he lists the vault
    company where the gold is stored on the company's Web site,
    as well as other documents attesting to the gold's
    validity. His customers' holdings are valued at $62
    million, Mr. Turk says. Account holders' money is held
    in gold that is stored as 400-ounce bars in a vault
    just outside London.

    In effect, each time a payment is made, one account
    holder is passing to another a claim on the stack of
    gold in the London vault. He says a transaction costs
    only about $1.50, compared with $20 or more for a bank
    wire.

    Mr. Turk's own thoughts about the nature of money go back
    to his childhood in Ohio, where his Austrian father
    emigrated after World War I. After the war, Austria
    suffered extreme hyperinflation that made its currency
    next to worthless.

    Then, early in his banking career, while with Chase
    Manhattan in Asia, he was present in Bangkok in 1974
    for the collapse of Herstatt Bank due to unauthorized
    foreign-exchange dealings. It marked the biggest bank
    failure in the history of what was then West Germany,
    and caused turbulence in financial markets around
    the globe.

    "My family's experience and Herstatt's collapse made me
    realize that national currencies are much more inherently unstable than tangible assets," he says. That led him to
    start thinking about how to circulate gold as a currency, a practice that started falling out of favor back in the 17th century, when the Bank of England issued the first widely circulated paper money as a stand-in for gold and silver.

    After a stint in the United Arab Emirates, where he
    managed the precious-metals portfolio for the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, Mr. Turk settled in London, where
    since 1987 he has published the Freemarket Gold & Money
    Report.

    His newsletter quickly became essential reading for gold
    bugs, a group he has an affinity for despite its quirks.
    In one instance, in the late 1990s a gold-bug organization called the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee demanded a congressional investigation into its claim that, in effect, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan was conspiring
    to fix gold prices with the Bank of England and the
    government of Kuwait.

    "The framers of the Constitution were gold bugs," Mr. Turk says. "That's why they insisted on a sound money policy
    of gold and silver when writing the Constitution."

    In 1998, as e-commerce was taking off, Mr. Turk launched GoldMoney, seeing the Internet as a tool enabling gold to
    again be used as currency. Last year the company reported revenue of $37 million, Mr. Turk says, and he expects twice
    that much this year. The company has attracted outside investment from DRD Gold, a South African mining company,
    and IAMGold Corp. in Toronto, which together hold a 21%
    stake in GoldMoney.

    Mr. Turk's case for bullion is rooted in history. He argues
    that all governments -- from ancient Rome to King Louis
    XV's France to 1990s Argentina -- eventually succumb to excessive spending. Rather than raise taxes, officials
    resort to printing more money, sparking inflation and
    financial collapse.

    Because paper currencies are no longer backed by gold or
    another tangible asset, Mr. Turk likes to point out, they represent nothing more than a government's promise to
    honor them. But when currencies fall, he says, gold
    remains a valuable commodity.

    "Unlike the dollar," he says, "gold is not dependent
    on the U.S. government's promise to honor it."

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