Beiträge von linar

    Peak Gold - One More Time - Roland Watson - Sep 20, 2006


    .....So where does that leave us in the Peak Gold debate? This current sustained decline in gold production (a phenomenon not seen since 1970-1975) could be attributed purely to "low-grading" and I am honest enough to say that.


    What will have to happen to see either theory confirmed or denied? If it is Peak Gold then a sustained drop in the price of gold may increase production but not enough to bring us back to the levels of 2001. If it is "low-grading" then we may begin to flat line production as in the late 1970s and then rise again after the gold price blow off.........


    http://www.321gold.com/editorials/watson/watson092006.html


    :rolleyes: ich hab langsam Mühe mit all den verschiedenen Theorien :rolleyes:


    linar :) und :rolleyes:

    Moody's Revises Barrick Ratings Outlook
    Monday September 18, 3:16 pm ET
    Moody's Boosts Barrick Outlook to Stable From Negative


    NEW YORK (AP) -- Moody's Investors Service said Monday it has revised its ratings outlook for Barrick Gold Corp., the world's No. 1 gold producer, and two of its subsidiaries to stable from negative.
    Moody's also affirmed the "Baa1" senior unsecured ratings of Barrick Gold Corp., Barrick Gold Finance Co. and Barrick Gold Inc. Barrick Gold Finance's notes and Barrick Gold Inc.'s shelf are guaranteed by Barrick Gold Corp.
    The outlook change comes after Barrick's announcement last week that will sell its 50 percent interest in the South Deep mine in South Africa to Gold Fields Ltd. for $1.53 billion in cash and shares.........
    full story: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060918…d_credit_rating.html?.v=1


    ...stable wohl erst, wenn Barrick genug andere geschluckt hat, hedge-book lässt grüssen :rolleyes:


    hab's hier rein gestellt - ist ja so was wie allgemeine GoldInfo :D Moody's strammer Service :rolleyes:


    linar :)

    ....da passt ja der letzte "Hommel" wie die Faust aufs Auge :D ob er hier mitliest ;):D


    Silver Price Manipulation 101
    Silver Stock Report


    by Jason Hommel, September 16, 2006


    I think Ted Butler has let his imagination run wild in his article, "Blatent Manipulation",
    http://www.investmentrarities.com/09-11-06.html


    If I understand what he's saying, then, the dealers are manipulating because:


    When prices rise, the dealers don't sell.
    And when prices fall, the dealers don't buy.


    So, when they are, in essence, doing nothing, that's manipulation?


    Either I'm confused, or Ted is confused, you be the judge.


    Ted Butler's confusing article provides an occasion and opportunity for me to try to bring clarity to this issue.


    But before I try to correct Ted on this issue, let me praise Ted Butler for an astounding amount of clarity that he has already brought to the issue of metals trading. I remember that Ted has said that metals leasing is inherently fraudulent, because if you rent, or lease, a house, you cannot sell that house to someone else, and if you rent a car, you cannot sell the car!


    First, what is manipulation?


    1 : to treat or operate with or as if with the hands or by mechanical means especially in a skillful manner
    2 a : to manage or utilize skillfully b : to control or play upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one's own advantage
    3 : to change by artful or unfair means so as to serve one's purpose


    I assume Ted means that the manipulation is something done unfairly, or insidiously.


    insidious means:


    1 a : awaiting a chance to entrap : TREACHEROUS b : harmful but enticing : SEDUCTIVE <insidious drugs>
    2 a : having a gradual and cumulative effect : SUBTLE <the insidious pressures of modern life> b of a disease : developing so gradually as to be well established before becoming apparent


    So then, the manipulation in question seems to be something done unfairly, insidiously, to harm or entrap. Sounds oppressive, and evil, almost like an attempt to enslave others, and I agree with the basic definitions here.


    In the past, Ted and others have alleged that if the big bullion dealers lose money, or make money, while trading gold and silver, then they are manipulating the market, and "picking the pockets" of other traders. And now, if they don't even trade at all, it's manipulation?


    Nonsense! If a big trader makes money, or loses money, or moves the market, that is not manipulation. I know, because I am a big trader, sometimes I make money, and sometimes I lose money, and I move the market with articles. That's free speech; not oppression & manipulation. And I'm free to trade as I like under capitalism.


    I could falsely allege that small traders manipulate the market, because they set the price of a stock with very small bids, or very small ask order sizes. And if I go to buy, the price changes on me, and moves up, because they were deceiving me with small order sizes. And yes, small traders can falsely accuse me of manipulating the market, because I change the market price if I try to buy! But neither the small trader, nor the large trader is at fault, nor doing anything wrong. Each is free to trade as they wish.


    The point is that trading is not manipulation. Trading is exchanging. How can a voluntary trade be oppressive?

    und weiter mit der Bibel: http://www.silverstockreport.com/email/silver101.html


    "Ein Schelm, wer Böses dabei denkt"


    linar :D

    More Avenues into Bonds
    by Jim Willie CB
    Jim Willie CB is the editor of the "Hat Trick Letter"
    Sep 15, 2006


    .......More must be stated on the bond rally, which is NOWHERE NEAR FINISHED. Gold competes with govt bonds. Gold will not skyrocket until the current bond market rally ends, when long-term rates bottom out, and until the USFed begins to cut rates in desperation. My edumacated jackass guess is that the 10-year TNote yield might bottom out sometime like next spring at between 4.2% and 4.4% in defiance to inflation-based analysts. Long-term rates rose when the masses expected the USFed to inflate until the cows come home. Well, the cows might be coming home, dragging some of the housing foundation and support beams with them. Oops, those are bears! The nightmare of adjustable rate mortgages (ARM) is only in its early stages........
    .........The gold price will resume its northerly course ONLY AFTER long-term bond yields bottom out. Gold will rise ONLY AFTER the hacks at the USFed move to an easing bias and actually cut rates. For now the markets are accepting their bluff of rate hikes, whose motive seems obvious in supporting the USDollar. The favorable autumn gold season cycle will help to support gold, but only after the bond competition is removed. As stated last week, the gold bull resumes not when price inflation arrives, but upon the arrival of the mortgage finance crisis extended from eroding collateral against mortgage loan portfolios. All in time. Like with a truck struggling to find second gear, only to find its speed in a slide, the gold price retreats as it awaits the knuckleheads in the USFed to change course in monetary policy. These guys could not run a summer camp budget, let alone a banking system.,,,,,,,,
    long full story: http://www.321gold.com/editorials/willie/willie091506.html


    .....beim letzten Goldrun waren da die Zinsen nicht sehr hoch ?( ...trotzdem finde ich sehr lesenswert ;) stehen noch einige "merkwürdige" Zusammenhänge :rolleyes:


    linar :)


    ... mexx ich weiss ;) mit Schnäppchen habe/hatte ich noch nie ein gutes Händchen, aber es kommt unter die Matratze und wird irgendwann einmal.....und dann kommt es auf einige Franken mehr oder weniger auch nicht an - hoff ich mal zumindest :rolleyes:
    ...bei Silber sind wir etwas im Vorteil wegen der Mehrwertsteuer, wenigstens das :D


    linar :)

    Eldo [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.stock-channel.net/s…d/images/smilies/supi.gif] natürlich auch schade, wenn sich die vielen "alten" Infos mit der Zeit im grossen weiten All verlieren ;)


    ...und gleich könnt Ihr etwas auf mich [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.stock-channel.net/s…ies/action-smiley-064.gif:rolleyes:


    long term goldbull Chris Laird sieht für short term ziemlich finstere Wolken - jedenfalls sind seine Ansichten (für mich) überlegenswert, auch wenn es mir ganz und gar nicht passt :(


    There has been quite some debate recently about a pending gold 'correction'. Since last week, gold corrected about $50. For some weeks, I have been predicting a drop in price below $600, and have been writing that the main cause will be a weakening commodity complex that will spill into gold. I present a thesis here that gold is not 'correcting'. Gold is reflecting an actual major macro economic change to recession in the US. The context of the term 'correction' in this present gold market is off base completely...


    full looooooong story: http://www.321gold.com/editorials/laird/laird091406.html


    Ich meine nur man sollte sich das auch durch den Kopf gehen lassen - und man bracht mich nicht vom Gegenteil zu überzeugen - à la longue ist Gold :] ....ich habe gestern physisch etwas nachgekauft ;) und werde meine Minen :( aussitzen und auf alles gefasst sein wenn ich aus Indien zurück komme ;)


    linar :)

    Zitat

    Original von GOLD_Baron
    Kannst du mir das mit dem Washington Agreement II und dem 26.9. erklären?


    Im Netz hab ich spontan nichts gefunden.


    Danke! :D


    ..hier kann man ein bisschen nachlesen ;) bezieht sich allerdings mehr auf den heutigen Stand der Verkäufe usw.


    ...The Bundesbank is one of 15 European central banks which set limits on sales in 1999 to help stabilize bullion prices, then languishing at under $300 an ounce. The current agreement, which began on September 27, 2004, allows sales of 500 tonnes a year for five years but a shortfall of sales is expected in 2005-06......
    full story: http://today.reuters.com/news/…ECONOMY-CENBANKS-GOLD.xml


    linar :)

    hallo - kennt sich jemand aus mit diesen Rothschild Bärreli (50 g) Preis im Vergleich - Rarität? - oder sonst was :rolleyes:


    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.zpmo.ch/aktuell/rothschild.gif]


    merci für Aufklärung - linar :)


    Foto etwas undeutlich: ROTHSCHILD & SONS (rundrum geschrieben) R.M.R (in der Mitte)
    auf der andern Seite: 50 GR. 999.9 und in der Mitte wie oben einfach entsprechend kleiner.


    merci Edel - das sind Barren (oder eben Bärreli 50 g) nur werden sie nicht mehr (von Rothschild) gegossen,
    ist ja auch egal 50 g sind 50 g ;) na ja, falls doch jemand Bescheid weiss - danke :)


    linar :)


    na wieder mal diagonal gelesen - heisst ja "Münzen & Barren" werde mich also nochmals umschauen ;)