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    April 19 - Gold $400 down 20 cents - Silver $7.18 up 6 cents


    Gold Gives Up Strong Gains, Silver Moves Higher


    Zitat

    I have only ever made one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it... Voltaire


    GO GATA!!!


    The AM Gold Fix came in at $405.30. It was downhill from there on in. The early strength made sense because the physical market is so firm. The sell-off made sense too – same kind of market action we have witnessed for more than 5 years. The Gold Cartel had no intention of letting gold rally what with Spain calling for an immediate withdrawal of its troops. It just wouldn’t be right for the US to let gold rally after the Bush Administration received this slap in the face from the Spanish.


    Aside from that, not much to say today. What I thought might be of interest was in yesterday’s MIDAS.


    The trading action was extremely subdued. The dollar closed down .13 to 94.50, while the euro gained .29 to 120.


    The Café Sentiment Indicator dropped to a 2 on Saturday, lowest rating of the year. It is back up to a 4 - still a bullish price indicator.


    The gold open interest only contracted 3591 contracts to 266,352. Silver’s went down much more on a percentage basis, falling 3348 to 111,343.


    Platinum closed at $937, up $15. Palladium finished at $324,up $12. Both trade like other free markets.


    One item worth mentioning is the increasing Comex disconnect from the physical market around the world, a la the $5 fall from its early overseas highs. Word to me from my STALKER source is Far East gold demand has been accelerating and will continue to accelerate. Western physical demand is also picking up as dealers are getting NEW customers who are diversifying their investment portfolios.

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    Going for gold

    Having a good feel for the yellow metal, this industry veteran is beating the odds in investing in the commodity


    [Blockierte Grafik: http://straitstimes.asia1.com.…aunched/2004-04-18/25.JPG]Solid gold: Though his virtual trades don't involve any physical gold, Mr Cheng still locks up his wealth in real gold bars and coins. -- WANG HUI FEN


    "For long-term holding, he has invested in gold bars and Maple Leaf coins, kept in a safe deposit box in a bank."


    weiter....


    http://straitstimes.asia1.com.…ry/0,4386,246366,00.html?

    Noch so ein Artikel von der durchsichtigen "Gold wird nicht mehr gebraucht" Sorte!


    Ob hier der Autor wirklich nur seine eigene Meinung wiedergibt, wie es vermerkt ist?



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    Matthew Lynn is a columnist for Bloomberg News.


    The opinions expressed are his own.


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    Why Is Europe Now Breaking Into Its Gold Vaults?: Matthew Lynn


    http://quote.bloomberg.com/app…cid=lynn&sid=ajnFZJ1d9OhM

    @xtrel


    Zitat

    Ich frage mich, was euch alle so sicher macht, dass ihr den Tag noch erleben werdet, an dem die Masse Gold und Silber entdeckt.


    Das Wissen um die Zustände der Wirtschaft, des Finanzwesens. den tatsächlichen Geschehnisse beim Gold Handel, und vor allem um die Fundamentaldaten beim Gold, und noch mehr beim Silber.


    Wie alt ich genau werde weiss ich leider selbst nicht, doch ich hoffe, dass ich mindestens die max. 3 bis 5 Jahre noch erleben werde, die meiner Ansicht nach die äusserste Zeitspanne darstellt bis *Fiat Money* so wie wir es heute kennen abgelöst wird, und durch eine zumindest teilweise Gold gedeckte Währungen abgelöst werden wird, oder noch besser, abgelöst werden muss. Weil bis dannzumal selbst Idioten merken, dass mit ihrem Papier Geld irgend etwas nicht mehr stimmt. Die Hochfinanz wie sie Du nennst, weiss das schon länger, das es so kommen wird, und bereitet sich täglich mehr darauf vor. Sie schichtet um in tangible Assets, in Rohstoffe wie Oel, Kupfer, Blei, Zinn, Uranium, etc., und eben auch vermehrt ins Gold, und Silber. Vorzugsweise Gold, und Silber, das sich noch im Boden befindet. (Aktien)


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

    Goldbugs500


    Habe gerade eben Deinen Geposteten Beitrag von Reuters auf deren Homepage gefunden!


    http://www.reuters.de/newsPack…oryID=495779&section=news


    Es ist also einmal mehr eine Falschmeldung dieser unsäglichen, Falschmeldungen zum Gold Geschehen verbreitenden, Nachrichten Agentur. Habe die ganze Seite kopiert, und archiviert.


    Ich weiss nicht wie lange diese falschen Zahlen von 600 Millionen Tonnen Gold bei http://www.Reuters.DE noch! unkorrigiert stehen bleiben.


    Diese absolut für eine professionelle Nachrichtenagentur untollerierbare Falsch-Meldung über angeblich geplante Verkäufe der Bundes Bank in der unmöglichen Höhe von 600 Millionen Tonnen Gold, die vermutlich mit dieser wie ich vermute, absichtlich und bewusst verbreiteten total falschen Mengenangabe, an Zig Orten im Netz, und womöglich durch den Vertrieb dieser Reutersmeldung, auch in anderen Zeitungen erscheinen könnte. Ich muss wohl noch ein bisschen weiter recherchieren.


    Reuters wird sich vermutlich mit einem Fehler eines Angestellten, oder einer anderen Ausrede herausreden wollen, falls jemand diese "Nachrichten Profis" zur Rechenschaft für ihr Goldpreis manipulatives Verhalten stellt.


    Es wurden von der Firma Reuters, weltweit schon so viele, in ihrer Wirkung, und Aussage, negative, und manipulative Falschmeldungen zum Gold Geschehen veröffentlicht, dass man nicht mehr nur einfach von Fehlern, und Zufällen sprechen kann.


    Die Firma Reuters unterstützt durch solche Falschmeldungen direkt, oder indirekt, die Interessen, der an tieferen Goldpreisen interessierten Gold Bullion Banken!


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru


    PS:


    Goldbugs500


    Möchte Dich um Entschuldigung bitten, dafür, dass ich zuerst einen Schreibfehler Deinerseits vermutet habe.

    Goldbugs500


    Zitat

    "Die Bundesbank hatte eine Option beansprucht, in den nächsten fünf Jahren insgesamt rund 600 Millionen Tonnen Gold verkaufen zu können."


    Aus Deinem Posting geht nicht ganz klar hervor ob diese Aussage versehentlich von Dir im Kommentar, oder von Reuters, einer "professionellen" Nachrichten Agentur, als eine weitere von vielen Falschinformationen zum Gold Geschehen verfasst wurde.


    Falls die in Deinem Posting gemeldeten, 600 Millionen Tonnen geplanter Gold Verkäufe der Bundes Bank von Reuters stammen sollten, lass sie als Beispiel einer evtl. weiteren indirekten Preismanipulation bitte stehen.


    Falls diese 600 Millionen Tonnen, von Dir stammen sollten, sehe ich ein Versehen deinerseits, und bitte Dich die Zahl zu korrigieren. Und uns den genauen Link für die Meldung mitzuteilen. Ich sammle nähmlich als Hobby Falschmeldungen zum Gold, und Silber Geschehen.


    Es ist nur von 600 Tonnen Gold geplanter Verkäufe die Rede, nicht etwa von 600 Millionen Tonnen. Soviel gibt es nicht einmal in userer gesammten Galaxis, geschweige denn auf der Erde. Alles je auf dieser Welt geförderte Gold seit menschengedenken, entspricht nicht mehr als ca. 140000 Tonnen. Davon dürften etwa noch 120000 bis 130000 Tonnen Gold existieren. Über den Rest im Boden wird viel diskutiert, und geschätzt. Tatsache ist auch, dass die Goldproduktion eher Rückläufig ist, der Bedarf an Gold jedoch seit langer Zeit kontuinierlich stark ansteigt. Ebenso besteht tatsächlich, und nicht etwa nur gerüchteweise ein Produktionsdefizit. Zuletz wurde für 2003 ein Produktionsdefizit von weit über 1400 Tonnen Gold von GFMS gemeldet.


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

    Hoffe dass alle Leser im Thread, die Aussage in der letzten in englischer Sprache verfassten Analyse zum Gold und Silber von Bill Murphy von der GATA, auch wirklich in ihrer Tragweite für das zukünftig mögliche Gold Preis Geschehen verstehen können !


    Falls nicht, druckt es bitte aus, und lasst es Euch von jemandem übersetzen.


    Der Autor Bill Murphy von der GATA lag mit seinen Aussagen zum Gold Geschehen die ganzen 4 1/2 vergangenen Jahre über völlig richtig, und hat uns Gold Bugs dadurch zu aussergewöhnlichen Gewinnen verholfen.


    Wenn ich rückwirkend daran denke, dass er die allermeisten Gold Aktien bereits zu Bruchteilen der heutigen Preise mit strong buy! zum Kauf empfohlen hatte, bereue ich sehr, dass ich nicht noch viel mehr davon gekauft habe. Auch heute schreibt Bill Murphy wieder über Gold, und auch Silber, und spricht weiterhin von einer einmaligen Chance die es zu ergreifen gilt.

    Manchmal wurde auch Bill Murphy, von konzertierten Gold Bullion-, und Zentralbanken "Abverkaufs-Aktionen" jeweils kurzfristig vorübergehend etwas überrascht. Danach sind die $ Goldpreisnotierungen immer weiter und auch höher gestiegen. Ich bin überzeugt davon, dass er weiterhin richtig liegt mit seiner Einschätzung zum Goldgeschehen, und wir den richtig grossen fundamentalen Gold-. und Silber Preis Anstieg noch vor uns haben.


    Physisches Gold, und Silber kann jederMann/Frau heute noch frei kaufen, sei es als Münzen, oder Barren. Wenn das was Bill versucht aufzuzeigen, zutreffend ist, wovon ich selbst überzeugt bin, an die Öffentlichkeit gelangt, wird es vielleicht bereits zu spät dafür sein zu kaufen. Zumindestens zu den heutigen vom Gold Cabal "subventionierten" Tiefpreisen.


    Entweder


    man ist überzeugt von einer Preis Manipulation, und/oder den wichtigen fundamentalen Informationen, die für eine Verknappung des physischen Goldes und Silber sprechen, glaubt nicht an die von Zentralbanken vorgelegten Zahlen zu den offiziellen Goldreserven, und glaubt auch nicht den Verlautbarungen der Analysten die in Goldanlagen keine Zukunft sehen, und *Fiat Money* Papiergeld bevorzugen, und KAUFT JETZT GOLD und SILBER DAZU !!!


    oder


    man ist nur Teilweise davon überzeugt, lässt sich von den etablierten Analysten, die zu meist den vergangenen Gold, und Silberpreis Anstieg komplett verpasst haben, verunsichern, und WARTET weiterhin AB was mit den Gold-, und Silberpreisen weiter geschehen wird.


    oder allenfalls


    man ist trotz aller bekannter Fakten immer noch nicht davon überzeugt, dass es eine Preismanipulation beim Gold, und Silber gibt, und glaubt auch nicht daran, dass Gold, und Silber aus wirtschaftlicher Sicht Chancen haben weiter zu steigen, dann sollte man eigentlich besser VERKAUFEN !!!


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

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    This Is The Way I See It - Gold & Silver


    By: Bill Murphy, Le Metropole Cafe, Inc., LemetropoleCafe.com

    April 18 - Gold $400.20 - Silver $7.12


    This Is The Way I See It


    It is becoming clearer by the day that the gold rigging game is on its last legs. It is only a matter of time (say a few weeks or months) before the price of silver explodes first with gold following close behind.


    What are the signs this is so? I offer the following:


    *Silver's price action. After having been stuffed for years, silver soared from sub $5 prices to $8.46 before a “last gasp” cartel attack buried it last week. The result: a very normal correction. One needs only to review silver’s weekly chart to see how normal it has been thus far:


    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/SV/W


    After a similar run, we have seen the same sort of technical correction in soybeans:


    Soybean weekly


    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/SB/W


    *The gold price action tells us much is changing fast – part of the "structural market change" notion MIDAS has brought to your attention the past couple of months. Since the beginning of this year, gold has briefly taken out $430 twice only to be thrust back by a desperate Gold Cartel. At the same time, it has successfully rebounded off of the $395 area three times to-date.


    Gold weekly


    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/W


    *On this last dip, the Indian ex-duty premiums exploded above $10 on Thursday and Friday. This is WAY above average and extraordinarily bullish as it tells us demand for bullion in gold-devouring India has SOARED on the price dip below $400. Simply put, the greater the premiums the less local bullion dealers are able to satisfy local demand without going into a buying spree on the international market.


    Meanwhile, we know the Saudis are also substantial buyers. Since the beginning of this year, demand in China has been picking up on a monthly basis since their gold market was opened up to their citizens for the first time in 40 years.


    *The most vocal central banking advocate of selling central bank gold over the past couple of years has been Ernst Welteke. Supposedly, he has resigned over a flap about some hotel bill. I don’t buy it. In the articles covering this German scandal, there has been talk about gold sales being an issue between the bank and various political factions. However, is the real issue about selling gold, or how to declare to the German public their gold was leased out, and since they cannot get it back (without driving the gold price hundreds of dollars per ounce higher), they must find a graceful way of downsizing their official reserves? Something stinks here.


    Why has no one referred to this blurb which surfaced only 3 months ago?


    Jan. 17 (Bloomberg) -- The board of Germany's Bundesbank opposes a plan by its President Ernst Welteke to sell some of the central bank's gold reserves to fund research in Europe's largest economy, Der Spiegel said.


    ``Welteke won't get a majority for his proposal,'' the magazine cited an unidentified board member as saying. Only three of the board's eight members are in favor of the proposal, Spiegel said, citing the board member. –END-


    This story bluntly reveals Welteke was in conflict with his board about what to do with Germany’s gold, or how to explain to other Germans what has happened.


    This fits right into what GATA has been saying for years. Namely, the gold loans are FAR higher than acknowledged by the establishment and that Germany may have lent out half, or even all of its gold. For new Café members, or to refresh memories, please review this "Oldie-But-Goodie" excerpt from a brilliant James Turk piece written way back on April 23, 2001:


    Behind Closed Doors


    by James Turk


    © by The Freemarket Gold & Money Report.


    ……..It’s an interesting proposition, and one that fits well with another newly discovered fact. Some very interesting sleuthing by Mike Bolser, who has been assisting Reg Howe in his lawsuit against the BIS, has revealed that the Treasury has made a small but very significant accounting change. Mike noticed that the Treasury Department has changed the designation of nearly 1700 tonnes of inventoried gold at the US Mint’s facility in West Point, New York (approximately 21% of the total US Gold Reserve) from "Gold Bullion Reserve" to "Custodial Gold".


    The August 2000 Status Report on US Treasury Owned Gold stored at West Point has a designation of "Gold Bullion Reserve". See: http://207.87.26.43/gold/00-08.html. But the September 2000 and subsequent status reports inexplicably designate this same gold that is stored at the US Mint in West Point as "Custodial Gold". See: http://207.87.26.43/gold/00-09.html


    This change was made without explanation, so rather than let the matter remain unexplained, Mike diligently contacted the Treasury asking what seemingly are two uncomplicated questions. Would the Treasury please explain why they made this change, and what does this change in designation mean with respect to the ownership status of the gold at West Point?


    They are simple questions, but perhaps they touch too close to a nerve. Not surprisingly, the Treasury so far has not responded to Mike. I have some views on what Mike discovered, and why the Treasury is so quiet about it. I think this change in asset classification is related to the ESF gold swaps. Here’s my thinking.


    The change Mike spotted possibly occurred as a result of accountants looking at the financial statements of the US Mint being prepared for its annual report ending fiscal year 2000. Note that the previous director of the Mint (Phillip Diehl) resigned in early 2000, so this was the first annual report signed by the new director (Jay Johnson). If there is one thing that government bureaucrats do well, they take great pains to call things by their right name. To do otherwise would put their job in jeopardy if something under their responsibility came under Congressional scrutiny, and it was subsequently determined that the name assigned to something was incorrect or misleading.


    Therefore, this change in the descriptive label for nearly 1,700 tonnes of gold at West Point from "Gold Bullion Reserve" to "Custodial Gold" was purposeful. It happened for a reason. This conclusion is all the more plausible because the Treasury did not change the classification from "Gold Bullion Reserve" to "Custodial Gold" to describe the gold stored in Fort Knox or at the US Mint in Denver. Maybe new US Mint director Johnson saw something he didn't like. What could that have been?


    I’ve already put one-and-one together to establish that the ESF has "gold swaps" with the Bundesbank. It therefore does not require much conjecture to add one supposition to the equation by concluding that the gold in West Point has been swapped with gold owned by the Bundesbank, thereby necessitating its reclassification from "Gold Bullion Reserve" to "Custodial Gold". Here’s what I think has happened.


    The Treasury Department wanted to make gold available to some bullion banks. This statement is based on my basic premise that several of the big banks have gold books that are hopelessly imbalanced. By having borrowed short and loaned long, these banks have in their quest for profits imprudently fallen into the alluring but usually fatal banker’s deathtrap – a mismatched loan book. But what’s worse for these banks, it is even more difficult and treacherous to try extricating themselves from this particular deathtrap because they haven’t mismatched their loan book of dollars, which we all know can be created by the Federal Reserve ‘out of thin air’ if dollars are needed to bailout banks from a deathtrap predicament. Instead, these banks have mismatched their gold book. And no one – not even the Federal Reserve – can create gold out of thin air.


    So given this reality about the nature of gold, the Treasury had to turn elsewhere to find the gold necessary (1) to keep these banks from defaulting on their bullion obligations arising from their mismatched gold books in an environment where metal had become increasingly difficult to come by and/or (2) to keep the gold price low so that the likelihood of default by the banks would be lessened, even though metal would remain tight because fabrication year after year was exceeding newly mined supply. Rather than accept the bitter pill that certain banks were about to default on their bullion obligations, the Treasury looked for alternatives and found one – they put their hand into the till, until recently known as the Gold Bullion Reserve at West Point. They swapped this gold with the Bundesbank. I’ll explain how they did it, but let’s first consider the practical aspects of this transaction.


    In all likelihood, these particular bullion banks needed gold in Europe where their obligations were originally established. There is very little gold lending in New York. It is a practical problem to ship the gold out of West Point without raising the alarm of government auditors. It is costly too. Also, it is likely that some of the gold in West Point is coin-melt from the 1933 gold confiscation. Even if it could be smuggled out of the West Point vault into the market without raising suspicions, the alarm bells would go off at the refiner and soon thereafter in the market because everyone knows that only the US government has coin-melt bars. The appearance of coin-melt bars in the market would immediately raise suspicions that the US Gold Reserve was being dishoarded, an outcome that the Treasury would obviously take steps to avoid in concocting its scheme because the US Gold Reserve cannot be depleted without Congressional approval. Therefore, one is faced with the practical considerations of overcoming these hurdles, but the answer is relatively simple.


    The Treasury has gold in West Point. The Bundesbank has gold in Europe. The Treasury cannot directly do a deal with the Bundesbank because unlike the ESF, the Treasury is subject to Congressional oversight. So instead the Secretary of the Treasury and the President decide to use the ESF to set up a swap line for gold with the Bundesbank.


    -END-


    The entire article may be found at:


    http://www.lemetropolecafe.com…vID=1470&SearchParam=West Point


    GATA’s James Turk wrote this three years ago and it fits in perfectly with the gold price action and all the commotion going on in Europe recently.


    One of GATA’s main themes is half the central bank gold is gone, done away with in a surreptitious manner. Using three different methodologies, Frank Veneroso, James Turk and Reg Howe all came up with similar numbers. Last year, they felt the total of lent/swapped central bank gold was somewhere between 14,000 to 16,000 tonnes We are another year down the road. Since gold demand exceeds mine and scrap supply by 1500+ tonnes per year, and that supply/demand deficit is growing each month due to an ever-increasing investment demand around the world, 16,000 tonnes now becomes my more conservative number.


    What this means is The Gold Cartel is hitting the wall. Certainly nowhere close to the remaining 15,000/16,000 tonnes of central bank gold, out of a supposed 32,000 tonnes, is going to leave their vaults. The bottom line is The Gold Cartel is running out of physical gold to continue their scam, which is why the gold price is starting to go into convulsions and preparing to follow the recent silver price spike.


    It all fits. What comes next is Rothschild’s stunning decision to exit the gold business. The following was sent me today by Nick Nickolaas, whom I have high regard for. Note what Warren Pollack says about the Rothschild decision. It is well done. Of course, he doesn’t quite get there in that he leaves out the real reason Rothschild is most likely leaving the gold business:


    Because the gold price-rigging scam is ending.


    The lies the central bankers/bullion bankers have told the public about gold, much less the geopolitical ramifications in sub-Saharan Africa, are profound. Their ramifications will be staggering. Rothschild wants out before the proverbial "S" hits the fan.


    From the Desk of Nick Nicolaas #25


    April 18, 2004


    Re: European Trip and Rothschild withdrawing from commodities trading including gold


    Dear Friends:


    I will be leaving in the next hour for Europe where I will be for the next month, however if you would like to reach me the easiest is via e-mail to nicolaas@attglobal.net
    I will be following up with those individuals, banking and fund managers, who David Henstridge (President of Tumi Resources and Director of Tinka Resources) and I met during our February European Tour encompassing six cities.
    However before I leave I decided to send you the Warren Pollock Newsletter below which I think is important for you to be aware of.
    Regards,
    Nick Nicolaas
    nicolaas@attglobal.net


    The Macroeconomic Newsletter


    Warren Pollock


    pollock.warren@verizon.net


    Something Significant at Rothschild


    In a surprise move today Rothschild announced that it is withdrawing from commodities trading including gold. The ramifications of this are totally unpredictable as we cannot look into Rothschild's objectives. However ,we should consider that the cover story Rothschild provided


    Regarding profitability concerns are absurd. This move could mean the following; The political confidence of large wealth holders in the US fiduciary responsibility to global banking and governance through mutual interest may have been exhausted. Large money may be insisting that political change occur in the US. The gold leasing game for arbitrage profits has just ended. The leasing game can only safely occur when prices of gold remain predictable. Central banks would loan gold through Rothschild to bankers and brokers. Bankers and brokers would sell the gold and use the proceeds to gain easy profits between the current interest rates and the cost of the gold lease. Significant derivative problems could exist causing Rothschild to have exposures on lent gold that cannot be returned to central banks. Rothschild may be unwilling to lend gold. In banking terms this would reduce golds liquidity between banks and central banks. For individuals this would make gold more scarce. They may be unwilling to lend gold for a variety of reasons. Rothschild may be acting upon intelligence it has via its political contacts regarding pending geopolitical threats which could include a wider war in the Middle East or the further isolation of the US.


    1. Rothschild may be consolidating and accumulating positions in gold in advance of a global financial collapse, or a US financial collapse.


    2. A financial collapse could be induced or timed to meet political objectives. This would be the equivalent of financial terror attack.


    N M Rothschild
    N M Rothschild & Sons Limited, London announces that it is withdrawing from commodities trading, including gold.


    This decision has been taken following a strategic review of the services offered by Rothschild and will result in the withdrawal from commodities sales and trading activities in London. As part of this decision, Rothschild will be withdrawing from the twice daily London Gold Fixing which it currently Chairs. Discussions are being held with other members of the Fixing to ensure an orderly handover of the Chairmanship. Rothschild will continue to provide advice, project finance, corporate banking and other services to its Natural Resources and Mining clients around the world. The London announcement has minimal impact on metals sales and trading services from Rothschild’s businesses in Australia and Singapore. Announcing the decision, David de Rothschild, Chairman of N M Rothschild & Sons Limited, said: "Our income from commodities trading in London, including gold, has fallen as a percentage of our total income in each of the past five years. Following a strategic review of our activities we have concluded that this is no longer a core area of activity and have, therefore, decided to withdraw from the market."


    "The sustained growth of the Rothschild Group over the past decade has been a remarkable success story. We remain committed to growing further our activities in specialist commercial banking, private banking & trust services and objective relationship-based investment banking advice."


    For further information: John Antcliffe Smithfield 020 7360 4900


    -END-


    Let us not forget that Rothschild’s abrupt decision follows another stunning/flip-flop decision by Barrick Gold late last fall to renounce hedging, and only one day after praising its virtues. It has been well documented how Barrick CEO Greg Wilkins "abruptly" exited a gold conference in London, at which he was scheduled to speak, to head off to New Orleans where Barrick is co-defending a gold price manipulation suit along with Gold Cartel honcho, JP Morgan Chase.


    Taking it a step further, it wouldn’t surprise me the French are being leaned on by ECU colleagues regarding the looming gold problem to help out in some way. It also wouldn’t surprise me that bullion dealer apologists GFMS have been clued in as to what is coming and, therefore, actually put out a modestly bullish gold forecast of $450. They have been neutral to bearish the past three years.


    There is no need to review all of what GATA has warned of over the years about what is to come as a result of the nauseating Gold Cartel price-rigging scheme. Most of you know what that is and many more will find out when the eventual gold scandal breaks.


    The point of delving into all of this now is it is clear to me the arrogant Gold Cartel is on its last legs. As GATA’s Mike Bolser constantly reminds us, they are engineering a retreat. However, I believe their retreat is going to be stepped up in the weeks and months to come because they are HITTING THE WALL! They are running out of enough physical gold to do their dirty!


    As I constantly remind those in the audience when I given presentations at various investment conferences, to know what GATA knows is the key to understanding the gold market – the KEY to knowing what is coming gold price-wise and why. The evidence is there, plain as day, for all to see.


    The Gold Cartel is going to be blown out of the water in the near future. Once again the call to GATA’s stretcher-bearers to please stand by goes out, for when the price fixers are forced to run for the hills, the price of gold is going to go bonkers. Fortunes will be made by our camp!


    Investing in gold, silver and the shares is truly THE historic investment opportunity of a lifetime, which is why it is so important to keep in mind:


    GATA BE IN IT TO WIN IT!


    MIDAS


    BILL MURPHY
    CHAIRMAN
    GOLD ANTI-TRUST ACTION COMMITTEE


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    Goldbugs500


    Es ist 22.45 Uhr hier, und seit bereits fast 4 Stunden dunkel.


    Gold in Thailand zu kaufen ist sehr einfach, anonym, und bequem.
    Hauptsächlich, und am weitesten verbreitet ist der Kauf von sogenanntem Thai Gold, das in den unzähligen chinesischen Gold Shops, vorwiegend als Schmuck, Ringe, Hals Ketten, Arm Reife, etc. angeboten wird. Thai Gold weisst einen Reinheitsgrag von 96.5% auf. Also für Europäische Verhältnisse eher etwas ungewöhnlich. Thai Gold ist seit einiger Zeit auch als 100 Gramm, 500 Gramm, oder als Kilo Barren erhältlich. Dessweiteren gibt`s die Thai Gold Barren thaichinesischer Herkunft mit z.Teil wunderschönen zierenden Stempeln, in allen möglichen, und unmöglichen grössen, ab normalerweise ab 2 Bath. Bath ist nicht nur die Bezeichnung für die hiesige Währung, sondern wird hier in Thailand auch noch als Gewichtseinheit verwendet. Ein (Gewicht)Bath entspricht ca. 1/2 Unze (15.1 Gramm)


    Kaufen und auch Verkaufen sollte man in der China Town Bangkoks in den chinesischen Goldläden. Die sind meistens rot dekoriert, und strotzen nur so von zur Schau gestellten Gold Ketten, Barren, etc.
    Vom Gold Kauf bei Juweliergeschäften ist dringend abzuraten, selbst dann, wenn es sich um einen "seriösen" Händler halten sollte, ist die Chance, dass ein Kunde dort zu teure Preise erwarten, mehr als nur gross. Es gibt auch einige wenige Läden im World Trade Zenter Bangkok, und im China Town Bangkoks, die 99%iges Gold, als Schmuck, und weit weniger auch als Barren anbieten. Diese Läden haben zumeist ein braunes Interieur.


    Die Ein-, und Ausfuhr von Thai Gold ist auch für Ausländer frei. Das betrifft aber ausschliesslich 96.5%iges Thai Gold. Die Einführ von 24 Karat Gold, wie z. Bsp. UBS, Rothschild, Barren untersteht einer happigen Einfuhrsteuer, und kann im schlimmsten Falle bei der Einreise beschlagnahmt werden, wenn das Gold "vergessen" wird zu deklarieren.


    Thai Gold besitzt hier einen sehr grossen Stellenwert, und kann auch praktisch rund um die Uhr, 7 tage die Woche, bei Bedarf verkauft, oder im Normalfall zwischen min. 1 Woche bis zu 2 Monaten, gegen Zinsen von üblicherweise 3% im Monat belehnt werden. Bei grösseren Mengen Gold, und etwas Verhandlungsgeschick, auch zu bedeutend tieferen Zinsen. Obwohl für mich 3% Monatszinsen für ein Darlehen in "Fiat Money" Thai Bath, auf echtes Geld wie Gold, nicht nur einem Wucher Geschäft gleichkommt, sondern auch noch völlig unlogisch erscheint, wird diese "Dienstleistung" der Chinesen von den Thais gerne, und häufig wahrgenommen. Meistens jedoch nur für 1 Woche, um einen Geldengpass zu überbrücken.


    Silber gibt es zu Marktpreisen nur als Industrie Granulat in verschiedenen Reinheitsgraden bei den Chinesen zu kaufen. Silber Schmuck wird üblicherweise hier zum 3fachen Edelmetallpreis angeboten. Die Gold Händler verkaufen in den allermeisten Fällen kein Silber. Silber Schmuck ab Fabrikläden kauft man am vorteilhaftesten in den dutzenden von Silberläden, an der Charoen Gung Road, in der Näheren Umgebung des Hauptpostamtes, und des weltberühmten Oriental Hotels Bangkok.


    Beim Thai Gold werden die Tagespreise die eine Steuer von 7% VAT enthalten, täglich von der Presse vermeldet, und in den einzelnen Gold Geschäften angeschlagen. Die Preise wecheln manchmal 1 bis 3 x am Tag, falls sich das Gold Cabal mit den Hedgefunds an der Comex wieder einmal eine Papiergold Schlacht liefert, oder sonst grosse Volatilität am Markt besteht. Die Gold Händler schlagen auf den Tages Goldpreis eine sogenannte Arbeitsgebühr von ca. 300 Thai Bath, pro Bath Gewichtseinheit drauf. Das ihr Verdienst. Beim Verkauf von Thai Gold an die chinesischen Händler gilt als ungefähre Regel, je nach Verhandlungsgeschick, und der geplanten Menge: Tages Thai Gold Preis, minus 5-8%.


    Wechselkurs: 1 Euro entspricht ca. 48 Thai Bath


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru