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    1. roter 200MA-Preiskurve
    2. blauem USD-Preis
    3. dukelroten Preiswiderstandslinie


    ergeben ein Auge dass nach unten schaut.


    Der THRUST mit Spitze bei exakt der wichtigstarken Unterstuetzungszone bei 85 Punkten hat es NICHT geschafft, ueber der 200MA-Kurve nachhaltig zu schliessen. Jetzt ein weiterer Versuch, doch dieses Mal geht der Versuch mit den 3er Schnittpunkt einher.


    Schaunmer mal! Aufjeden Fall faellt Gold nochma kraeftig bei diesem weiteren USD-Anstieg in richtung roter MA-Kurve. Ein letztes Mal?

    “…and that for most of the past year, almost the sole buyers of the paper have been foreign (notably Asian) Central Banks.”
    The Privateer, Bill Buckler, 7-2-2004


    “…the only thing standing in the breach and preventing (or at least postponing) a $US collapse of potentially catastrophic proportions was their buying of this debt. The Fed knows this too, of course.”
    The Privateer, Bill Buckler, 7-2-2004


    “In sum, the distortions have reached the point where no amount of "jawboning" or painting of "rosy scenarios" is sufficient to "calm" market nerves.”
    The Privateer, Bill Buckler, 7-2-2004


    “It is our misfortune to live in a "Dark Age" when it comes to the knowledge of the principles upon which economics in general and monetary theory in particular are built.”
    The Privateer, Bill Buckler, 7-2-2004
    http://www.the-privateer.com/gold6.html


    “UBS Securities says it sees gold at $470 next year, while Canadian gold analyst Martin Murenbeeld said earlier this year he sees gold at $460 in 2005. Others have gone even further: John Embry of Sprott Asset Management has said gold could hit $1,000 by 2010.”
    Lots of Glitter Left in Gold, Matthew Ingram, Saturday's Globe & Mail, 7-10-2004

    Not only will your investment in bonds get clobbered but; where do you think the money will come from to replace the foreign money that is fleeing the bond market? Do you think it might come from the stock market or the real estate market? Without a doubt money will flow from these markets and seek a new home. I believe gold, silver, oil and gas will be huge beneficiaries of this transfer of wealth. I have a problem trying to understand why more people do not see this coming. I get a huge chuckle when I read about all the forecasts being made by the technicians and their charts. They all seem to believe that their charts are telling them the future. I have yet to read one prediction from these technicians telling us of the impending disaster that awaits the long term bond market. Seems to me the charts are pretty clear.


    Diversification will still be a very important component of an investor’s portfolio; the makeup of the diversification will differ entirely over what the definition of diversification has been over the last twenty-five years. Those who understand this makeup will have a much better chance of surviving the coming storm; those who don’t understand will just have to wait for the next bull market to make them even. Actually, your beneficiaries will have to wait for the next bull market; time will run out on you.


    I have always felt that diversification was a sales tool used by financial peddlers to sell their clients anything they want, for the sake of earning a commission. Another belief I have had is diversification is used by people who do not understand the difference and the reasons why one should or should not have his money invested in an industry or individual stock. Using diversification in this manner will always mean less returns in bull markets and less losses in bear markets. This is not a bad thing for most people. The questions I pose, for long term bond holders, is a question of logic; does it make sense to hold long term bonds after emerging from a period of historic low interest rates? Does it make sense to hold bonds knowing that interest rates have just moved off the lowest levels they have seen in decades? History has a way of repeating itself. History has taught me that any Government that has suffered severe financial problems and bankruptcy; have seen their currencies destroyed, inflation soar and interest rates skyrocket. We will be no different if we continue down the path that we are now headed.


    There are two lines of defense that one could take in supporting his holding of bonds. That is the defense of the economy going into the tank and rates falling as a result of the impending recession. I could agree with this line of thinking except for the stance I have taken on the amount of debt and who owns it. I believe these two topics will dictate the future of interest rates. The falling dollar in conjunction with the astronomical increase in debt will eventually lead the foreign investors to question to true financial strength of our country. Why should the US be allowed to issue huge amounts of debt when the rest of the world has to jump through hoops to continue to get loans from the IMF? What makes the US different? In reality, nothing! The US has failed to pay its debt down in the best of times; how can one expect to get their investment back when we are about to enter the worst of times? Like I said folks, the times are a changing. The second defense is that of being forced to have the income to live on. This is the tough one to deal with. Sometimes we get stuck without an exit. You can thank Greenspan for this. If you can possibly get by, the opportunity to put your money back to work at much higher rates will avail itself down the road; between here and there is a tough road to follow. In the end there will be a new sheriff in town. The rules will not be set by the Fed; they will be set by those who own our debt, they are the true possessors of weapons of mass destruction, and there is absolutely nothing that George can do to stop them from selling when the time comes. I get a charge in the fact that we feel that we have the right to dictate to our creditors what our interest rates shall be. In the end, I believe all currencies will move in the same direction at the same time. No more dollar down euro up. After all, they are in the same boat, with a few less holes.


    If you were a foreign entity with a bad feeling about the direction of the US; would you continue to take losses on your bonds knowing that the level of debt issuance was only going to grow? Would you continue to buy new issue stock on companies like Enron and World Com knowing that their financials were accelerating down the path of self destruction? You would have to be a fool to do so. In the case of the debt of the US Government; we are in a period of denial, we have yet to even begin to question the full faith and credit of our Government. There are so many people who openly profess that the debt is meaningless. I hope the future destroys their savings just like their advice has kept today’s investors from protecting their savings and thinking for themselves.


    There is no doubt that I am a gold bug, after all sheriffs have gold badges. Many people have asked me how high gold will go and where I will sell my gold investments? These are both excellent questions; the answer to how high gold will go is “I don’t know.” What I do know is the fact that the movement in gold has just begun. I will not even begin to think the high is in until I see money move from the bond market into the metals market. This is a long way down the road. As to the second question; I will begin to sell my gold and silver investments when I see panic in the US Government bond markets. When the whole world comes to the conclusion that US Government bonds are a risky investment, it is at this point in time that I believe gold may be nearing a high. Whether it is at a high or not is irrelevant; the important point is, at this point in time I will have made enough to satisfy my needs.


    Yeah, when I sell my gold, silver, oil and gas investments I plan to roll right into US Government bonds and clip coupons for the rest of my life. Only problem with that strategy is the fact that I too may be scared of the “Full Faith and Credit” of our Government. Under these circumstances I will SPECULATE on the safety of the US Bond; and yes it is at this point in time that I feel interest rates will finally be in a position to peak over their long term cycle.


    Like I have said, these are very interesting times and economic events could go in many different directions at the same time. The important points to remember is the long term ending to the story. I believe the handwriting is on the wall and in plain site. It would be a grave mistake to not head the lessons of the past.


    In closing I ask you one question. How would you feel, today, if you had bought the thirty-year US Government Bond back in the early 1980s with a current yield of 14%-15%? You will probably get the opportunity again! Be prepared!


    © 2004 Mike Hoy
    http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2004/0717.html

    THE COMING BOND DEBACLE


    by Mike Hoy
    July 17, 2004


    We have entered an era where the old standard and norms of “what is and what was” are two completely different things! We have entered an era that is as complicated as any we have ever seen. If ever there was a time when economists could write two different endings to the saga that has gone on, in this country, for years; now is that time.


    Whether we have inflation, hyperinflation, stagflation, recession, deflation or in the end depression does not matter; they are all coming and several at the same time. There is no way out of the mess that we have thrown ourselves into. The whole world has made its bed and soon will have to sleep in it. The failure, of the lowest interest rates in decades, to produce a thriving economy and Country is proof that the Fed has failed.


    The United States experienced tremendous growth and prosperity from the 1980s to 2000 and we have absolutely nothing to show for it. Unless you want to count the record amounts of debt we have as a result of leaving our minds and common sense at the car dealers or real estate offices. Without doubt, we had an opportunity to put the financials of this country in order as a result of the growth and prosperity our nation experienced over the past twenty years. In fact, in 2000, our government officials were just beginning to realize that we might be able to truly put black ink on the books again. Unfortunately they were looking in the past rather than the future. Y2K was gone and so was the money that was spent on new computers and the internet growth was slowing down. As a result the tech market bubble burst and the beginning of the end was here. Very few people recognize the significance of Y2K and the positive effects it had on our economy. Unfortunately, that all ended with the passing of the millennium.


    I have never been able to understand this talk of recovery. It is impossible to recover to a bubble! The only way that can happen is to create a bigger bubble than the initial bubble. I will give our government officials credit; they truly gave it their best shot. They have done everything in their power to put Humpty back together again. They lowered interest rates to levels that were unprecedented. They pulled every rabbit out of the hat that they could. They convinced the American public that borrowing was the key to growth, survival and economic recovery. They were successful beyond their wildest imaginations. The consumer borrowed and consumed like he has never done before. Only problem was that the end result will not be recovery but a deeper depression. Future generations, if there are any, will read back on these times and view our generation as the most selfish and ignorant of all times. How can they view us any differently; we destroyed their financial futures for our own greed? We have saddled them with debt and financial burdens that any normal society would have seen coming years before. They are the generations that will be responsible for paying the bills from our generation. They will have to live in the world we have left behind; without a doubt the freedoms that they will have will be less than the freedoms our generation has had and destroyed. How they can view our generation with anything but disgust is beyond me. Our greed is unprecedented in history. A new home with an SUV in the driveway is a great dream; but that in the end is all it is.


    We have entered a whole new ballgame and the rules are exactly the opposite of what they have been for years. Rising interest rates have changed everything. This is the period of time upon which we have now embarked. The ship has left the dock and if you are not on it you are out of luck. If you have not made your money, the traditional way, then you are way too late. There is very little chance that you are going to thrive in the stock and bond markets over the next several years, based on strategies from the past. For years we have heard discussions dealing with diversification. For the majority of investors diversification is a great thing. Normally I would believe diversification is a prudent means of investing one’s money. In today’s world diversification may be a recipe for mounting losses. There comes a time when taking care of your money is more important than making a decent return on your money. The risk of not understanding this is greater now than at any time in the past 70 years.


    The topic that I want to address today is the topic of long term bonds. With interest rates now beginning to rise, I believe the necessity for investors to realize that the principal amount of their investments in bonds is at big time risk. I personally believe there has never been a time when their principal has been at greater risk in bonds. I was a broker back in the 1970’s and half of my business dealt with bonds. I remember buying tax free municipal trusts with a 6.25%-6.50% tax free yield. This was considered a very safe investment with a good tax free return to the investor. Most people bought these trusts and completely forgot about their principal investment. They cashed their interest checks and life went on. This was all fine and dandy unless they needed to sell their bonds and get their principal back. I watched as interest rates rose and bond prices fell. I was young at the time and never really understood the carnage going on behind the scene. Oil prices rose dramatically through the decade and inflation was roaring as a result. This was a time when our government officials did not have the inflation index’s tweaked to give them the inflation numbers they desired to deceive the public into believing there was no inflation. Over the last twenty years our officials have learned how to master the numbers so as to make John Q Public believe his rising expenses has nothing to do with inflation. Their game is up; over time their lies will be fully uncovered. In getting back to the safety and security of the long term municipal trusts I bought for my clients; they were creamed over the ensuing 3-4 years. I had one client who needed his money in 1980-81; he received less than one half of his money back on the sale of his trust. This brought home the true meaning of loss in the bond market. I have failed to mention the fact that this money was no longer available to take advantage of interest rate opportunities when interest rates did finally peak. The ironic thing about investors when interest rates did finally peak was the fact that I could not get one of my accounts to invest in the thirty year US Government bond when the return was 14%-15%. Not one client bought the bond. Why? The answer was that they were getting 17% in the money market and felt there was no reason to switch. No amount of logic would change their minds. I did finally put three utility companies together so they could receive a dividend check each month. This investment idea was highly successful; not to mention the fact that the three companies had great records for increasing their dividends.


    Today we have a situation where most people believe that interest rates will have only a small increase. This is possibly the greatest financial misjudgment that they will ever make. Our society has been conned into believing things are different this time. They have been led to believe that a few quarter point increases will more than be sufficient to stop inflation in its tracks. I’m sorry but these people could not be more wrong.


    For years I have wondered if the 20.5% prime rate that was hit in 1980 was the high for the cycle. I could not begin to imagine that we would go higher at some point in time. I believe time has given me the answers to my questions. The answers are not going to be pleasant; no one else is talking or writing about it so I believe I must. I believe the astronomical amount of debt our government has accumulated, over the last twenty-five years, will come back to haunt us in a manner that will leave the financial world speechless and broke. Our Country has sold its soul and future to foreign investors, Central Banks and Governments. The amount of debt that is now held in foreign hands is an absolute financial disaster in waiting. The true weapons of mass destruction lie in the hands of these foreign bond holders. The only point that we must understand, to know that interest rates will rise, is the FACT that someday, soon, this money will decide that it no longer wants to be in US Government bonds. When this “Day Of Reckoning” arrives interest rates will rise to levels that we can not even begin to comprehend, at this point in time. Without a doubt, we have inflation that is growing stronger and stronger everyday; with the Fed now beginning to raise rates, I have to believe that their biggest fear is the movement of this money that now resides in the bond market. There is no question that at some point in time this money will decide it is far better off somewhere else. When this “Day Of Reckoning” becomes a reality the financial markets in this country and the world will be forced to face the fact that our leaders made huge mistakes that we must now be held accountable for. As these foreign entities sell their bonds, interest rates will rise to give the New “SUCKER” inducement to make the mistake of his or her financial lives. I believe rates are rising now in hopes that this money will stay a little longer. In the end it does not matter and the result will be the same. There is no question the dollar will fall as a result of this blanket of debt; at the same time there is no question that as rates rise the value of their bonds will fall. This is a double whammy that will destroy foreign investment in the US Bond Market. We have to be insane to believe that these foreigners will continue to lose money for our sake. Americans have had a way of life that has been the envy of the rest of the world. For years we stood out as being the poster child of growth and prosperity. In the future, the only poster we may appear on is the 10 most wanted, by the rest of the world. We are naïve to believe that the rest of the world views us in the same manner that we view ourselves; and since I believe the encouragement in the growth of debt is totally wrong I must believe the rest of the world may have a point. Regardless of how one feels about that subject the reality of the whole situation is the impending fact that the foreign countries will be the ones calling the shots in the near future when the subject of interest rates come up. Do you really feel secure in the fact that countries like China and Russia hold the hundreds of billions of dollars in debt that they do? Do you think that they care about anything or anyone other than themselves? Take note of Russia destroying one of its largest oil companies; why would they want to do this if not to break capitalism and regain control of the corporate assets? Do not believe for a second that they will not use their ownership of our debt to their advantage when the time comes. They also know that when they sell their bonds our interest rates will rise and rise dramatically; they also know that a rise in interest rates will be more devastating to our economic system than a successful military campaign.


    To top everything off is the fact that we have now entered an era where debt will continue to increase at levels that is unprecedented in history. The saying of “you ain’t seen nothing yet” has never been more appropriate than now. What are our officials doing about this mess? Simple, more of the same; then they try to convince you and me that we are on the road to recovery. Sorry, but I don’t buy it! There comes a time when a person has to realize that earning a very small rate of return is better than taking a beating he or she may never be able to recover from. I know many of you must have a better rate of return than what T-Bills pay and for those of you in this position I feel very bad. The returns that you seek are not there in dealing with the amount of capital you have to work with. Do not allow the lack of capital to destroy the future earning power of your money. As rates rise you will be able to generate a much greater return on your money. Do not allow yourself to be sucked into investments that will deny you the opportunity to take advantage of the higher rates in the future. If my thinking is correct the future will hold returns of 3X on your capital versus what your money will earn you today. I know that it will be tough to get by for the next several years; if you can put yourself into a position where you can buy the time I think you will be very thankful of the end result.


    I have often wondered about the long term interest rate cycles. Is it an accident that the highest yielding thirty-year bonds will mature at a time when our interest rates may be about to peak on the upside again, in a few years? Seems like a pretty good game to me. I must also mention that gold and silver peaked about the same time too. Do you see a pattern here? I do!

    meine guete, was fuer ein schlechtes zeugnis fuer die FAZ!


    aber eins hamse geschnallt:


    Zitat

    Für den Rand spricht aber aus Sicht technisch orientierter Anleger die Tatsache, die Marke von sechs Rand je Dollar durchbrochen zu haben. Dies wird als psychologisch wichtig bewertet und stärkt den Aufwärtstrend der südafrikanischen Währung. In entsprechender Lage befindet sie sich auch gegenüber dem Euro. Im Verhältnis zur Gemeinschaftswährung sieht sie sich nun aber einer massiven technischen Widerstandszone gegenüber.


    sackt der USD nun ein, die US-boersen auch noch runter oder seitwaerts, die EZB am monieren ueber zu hohen Euro, die zinsen nicht mehr allzuviel angehoben werden - sonst konkursrisiko "zuverlaessiger schuldner", dann
    halt ich den Rand - wenn ich ihn haette ;)


    der Rand als safe-heaven investment mit attraktiven zinsen koennte zu ner schwarzen blase geblaeht werden, um einerseits die Goldminen-PREISE in den Keller zu jagen (um sie vielleicht mit gruenem Klopapier aufzuSAUGEN!?) und andrerseits wieder mal ein paar FAZ-Kleinanleger auf die Schnautze fallen zu lassen. Unternehmen & Investoren treffen sich immer 2mal im Leben: Am Boden und in den Wolken!

    Oder so rum gesehen, leicht drueber ueberall bzw GENAU an der Grenze/Schnittstelle. RSI & relat>Preis zum Gold leicht drueber, aber sowas kein problem, koennte eine leichte ueberreaktion sein, aber MACD haette noch ein wenig PLATZ nach oben bis zum naechsten blauen Widerstand!


    die USD bewegung zZ ist ein dominanter Pullback zur nackenlinie aus dem oberen schwarezen chart. der noch dominatere PUllback aus dem JAHRESCHART oben ist bereits ZUENDE und am einsacken! Dennoch: Erinnert euch wie schwankungsreich dieser Pullback damals war!!! Aehnlich jetzt auch, ein leichtes drueber moeglich, dann wieder runter, dann wieder hoch, und im nachhinein siehts dann so aus wie auf dem JAHRESCHART: DICKE Pullbacklinie. im nachhoinein sieht alles im klar und eindeutig aus, doch im moment der aktion immer alles unsauber. dennoch: wir wissen was auf dominanter Ebene abgeht! Das is das wichtigste.

    so, ging doch schneller als ich erwartet hab:


    der USD is nicht zurueck auf die unterste RSI-Unterstuetzung sondern seit der letzten Antwort sogar.


    Der Pullback zurueck zur Nackenlinie war gestern!! Wir sind genau auf diesem Punkt: Schnittpunkt untere Schenkellinie (GELB) und Nackenlinie (GRUEN).


    Ein leichtes Halten ueber dieser Nackelinie sollte nicht sofort als KAUFSSIGNAL fuer den USD gewertet werden, da das Zeichnen der Nackenlinie auch noch eine (oder gra 2) Alternativen uebrig haette.


    Dennoch, die dicke gruene Nackenlinie ist sie. Widerstaende sind die Linien drueber. Jetzt wirds spannend.


    Dieser Pullback ein wenig verfrueht mE, aber umso besser fuer den AGC, denn Gold & HUI/XAU ahengen gerade an ihren Spitzen und nun langsam nach unten brechen. Es wird wohl ein weiterer Anschlag auf diese Goldspitzen veruebt NUN, aber nur moeglich wenn die den USD pushen, und genau DAS muesste sich als schwierig erweisen, denn der Pullback ist nun schon vorbei! Jetzt muesste er USD einbrechen und gibt dann SOFORT das Verkaufssignal! Dann muesste ein Eibrechen auf unter die 85er Marke erfolgen! Wir duerfen gespannt sein was JETZT passiert!

    Godmode sieht den XAU natuerlich nicht in einem Dreeick, sondern in einem bearkeil:



    Glueck?


    ... steigendes bullishes 3eck, absteigendes bearishes 3eck, symmetrisches 3eck,... was steht sonst noch so allem im technischen Lexikon? es gibt nur eine art von 3ecken. und eine definition die man sich merken sollte: alle 3ecke sind neutral, man kann nicht wissen ob sie eher nach oben ausbrechen oder eher nach unten. falls dem so waere, bitte empirische ergebnisse vorlegen lassen und nicht alles blind glauben, sondern selber gucken & zeichnen & gucken & merken.


    merke: mit dem bearkeil wissen kurzfristig rein gar nix, nur dass sich der preis innerhalb dieses keils bewegt. wenn wir aber ein 3eck jetzt da einzeichnen, dann sehen wir, dass wir an der spitze sind. dies sagt uns: Achtung, es passiert JETZT irgendwas gleich. mittels seinem keil kann er gerade auch in keinster weise erklaeren, warum das handelsvolumen richtung 0 geht - inmitten des keils! oder warum dann aufeinmal das handelsvolumen explodiert. warum wohl? weil dies die definition eines 3ecks ist!


    Zitat

    Aktueller Tageschart (log) seit dem 15.12.2003 (1 Kerze = 1 Tag).


    Die bearishe Keilformation erlangt auch deshalb besondere Relevanz, weil sie nicht nur im Wochenchart, sondern auch im Tageschart darstellbar ist. Innerhalb des Bearkeils nimmt der Spielraum für den Index immer weiter ab. Je mehr der Index in die Keilspitze läuft, desto näher kommt das vorliegende Chart Setup seiner Auflösung. Eine solche wird forciert!


    Prognose: Derd mehrmonatige Anstieg in Form einer bearishen Keilformation kündigt baldige nicht unerhebliche Kursabschläge an. Fällt der $XAU unter 85,2 Punkte, ist dies gleichbedeutend mit einem beginnenden regelkonformen Ausbruch aus dem Keil nach unten. Charttechnische Korrekturziele liegen dann bei 82,9 und anschließend bei 74,0-75,0 Punkten. Im letztgenannten Bereich verläuft derzeit die übergeordnete Aufwärtstrendlinie seit 2001. Bis 74,0 Punkte würde es sich um eine mittelgradige regelkonforme Auflösung des Bearkeils handeln. Eine finale regelkonforme Auflösung würde den Index sogar in den 60,0er Bereich führen. Was muß passieren, daß der bearishe Keil zum bitterbösen Fehlsignal der Bären wird? Dafür müßte der Index über 92,8-93,2 Punkte ansteigen können. Gelingt dies, würde dies ein sofortiges Kaufsignal bis 101,45 triggern.
     [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.godmode-charts.de/chart/charts2003/subcortical/O2/ugo361.gif]


    inmitten des bearkeils sieht er nicht wo wir uns gerade befinden! er sieht sogar noch einen verbliebendern spielraum im bearkeil. alles richtig und schoen, nur sehe ich die Entscheidung schon jetzt am Kommen - das ham 3ecks-spitzen so an sich.

    gogh
    danke!


    "$550 = jenseits von gut & boese" ... gefaellt mir mehr als gut!!


    die scheinen mir zu gefallen! die werd ich mal unter die preislupe legen und langsam schaun, was die tiefe des marktes so hergibt. momentan ja ueberall erschreckend niedriges volumen. dreieckszeiten eben.
    welche boerse bevorzugst du fuer SA-minchen?


    (fundamental sauber? ham die schon mal gehedgt?)


    Was ham die fuer ne jahresproduktion?

    Hallo gogh,


    ich schaetze deine SA+AUS Minenkenntnis sehr. Nur wenige schaffen es mit dieser analysemethode langfristig überdurchschnittliche renditen zu erzielen. Projektspezifisch ist es in jeder branche moeglich, dominierende makroeinfluesse kurzzeitig ausser kraft zu setzen bzw in den vernachlaessigbaren hintergrud zu stellen. ich dachte du kaufst aus makro-gruenden: Aktien = Underlying, so wie ich. Kannst du mir trotzdem die ungefaehren(!) USD-Produktionskosten (in Afrika, oder durchschnittliche) dieser 4 Werte nennen, da sie mich interessieren? DANKE!!!!!