Beiträge von frr

    @ Nostradamus - Ich bin erstaunt, dass Du diesen Namen gewählt hast. Ich war versucht von diesem Handle auf tieferes Wissen zu schliessen.


    Deine Argumente sind reiner Main Stream Quatsch. Quatsch der nahe an Volksverblödung herankommt. Damit spielst Du denjenigen in die Hände, die über Jahrzehnte ein neues Feudalsystem, das weit mehr als das alte Zehent einfordert und zudem die Deppensteuer Inflation (siehe Alan Greemspan vor 30 Jahren als noch Ayn Rand Schüler), aufbauten und dies nun zu globalisieren suchten.


    Deine rigorose Ablehnung von Gold als Standard für vernünftige - nicht nur Wert-Entwicklung - sondern auch als Anker für verantwortliche Finanz- und Realpolitik der Regierenden - und Garant für persönliche Freiheit in allen Belangen, unterstreicht Deine totale Ahnungslosigkeit. Die Wohlhabenden während der Weimarer Republik mögen ähnlich gedacht haben.


    Deine Aussagen über In-, De- oder Stagflation entbehren jeglicher fundamentaler Logik; Du sprichst von Wachstum, Konsum vis a vis Stillstand und meinst bestenfalls monetäres Wachstum, Konsum auf Kosten Anderer (produktiver) Gesellschaften und übersiehst dabei, dass produktives Wachstum nur durch Kapital, dass erspart wurde - also durch Konsumverzicht - erreicht wird.


    Die USA und z.T. auch bereits die EU benötigen bereits etwa 100% der Ersparnisse der Rest der Welt um die Fiktion aufrecht zu erhalten.


    Ein Finanz Tsunami verheerenden Ausmasses ist nicht nur wahrscheinlich, sondern unausweichlich ... The only question is: Who will blink first? - and the exits will be jammed by ignorants of your ilk!

    Dies könnte vom echten Nostradamus stammen. Die Frage bleibt wie willst Du Deine finanzielle Gesundheit aufrechterhalten, wenn rund un Dich das globale Finanz- u. Währungssystem zusammenbricht?


    Klingt nach Panikmache? Dann schau einmal genauer um Dich und versuch zu verstehen wie eine globalisierte Welt mit einem Währungssystem, dass einzig auf "Kredit", id est Debit aufgebaut ist überleben kann. Darüberhinaus haben Finanzderivate, also reine Wetten, getarnt als Risikostreuung, oder Absicherung in der Grössenordnung von 600 Billionen US $ vs 50 Billionen $ globale Wirtschaftskraft als Nationalprodukt ausgedrückt, das Risiko eines Mega Unfalls (a la' LTCM) wahrscheinlicher werden lassen.


    Gold ist Niemandes Verbindlichkeit und hat über Jahrtausende seinen Wert bewahrt. Keine Papier Konfetti Währung hat historisch überlebt; Die Dollar Hegemonie wird dies auch nicht tun.


    Die Frage bleibt - wie weit sind wir in der Entwicklung fortgeschritten? Nun seit 1913, der Einführung der FED ist vom Wert des US Dollars nur noch 3 Cent an Kaufkraft "wert".


    Don't worry, be happy and buy another SUV and or home - Or buy some portfolio insurance ... Gold!
    Or learn what others have to say:



    @all
    (jrmfl) May 20, 07:41

    received this email late in the day yesterday, was forwarded by a sub who is an institutional client. make of it what you will, it is merely a perspective, like everything else here, from an HK trading desk.


    ____________________________________________________



    My son, who works for HSBC in Hong Kong managing trader of the debt department phoned me to tell me a big storm brewing at end of month.


    It revolves around the CDOs, Collaterized Debt Obligations. I won't go into details, but what we just saw past weeks was tip of iceberg. I can't explain all but these hedge funds are long the hi beta element of the CDO and will have to act by the end of the month. i.e unload. FORD & GM being dropped from Lehman's index with 80 billion GM and FORD reduced to junk debt.


    This will increase the weight on the junk debt market by 25% and this market CANNOT sustain that increase. THE 80 BILLION IS NOT YET PRICED IN AND WILL BE DIFFICULT TO DO TO GET SIZE IN THE JUNK TO UNLOAD. THERE WILL BE NO MARKET WHEN THE TIME COMES. THEY ARE ALREADY TO PULL THE TRIGGER. HEDGE FUND MANAGERS WILL BE FORCED TO BALANCE BY END OF MONTH. A DISASTER IS BREWING WHICH I SUSPECT WILL CAUSE A MAJOR SELL ON THE STOCK INDICES. A TRUE CREDIT CRUNCH.


    The Junk market cannot sustain this 25% increase. Liquidation, however is a MUST because hedge fund losses are mounting by the 100s millions and they need to unload by end month. This is just an addition onto other hedge fund woes including yesterday's announcement for a floor as well as a ceiling put on any Far East reflation.


    These funds are wrong footed here to the tune of several 100 million as well. These past days feel like a spoof to get markets up so the big boyz can unload. Highs now and down in June sounds about right. My son is convinced the sell-off will cause panic in the streets.


    Regards,


    X


    ___________________________________________________


    some marco/micro ramblings on the blinking lights:


    we are going dark, in good time, but not before the cycle has wound up.


    lights out, but not until the fed has attempted to monetize the governments way out of their hole.

    or...has the action of the fed reached a new level of desperation. the last month has been over the top. the last 5 days have been over mount everest. the pig is desperately trying to go down, no matter how hard they try to prop it. and yet the pig is up 4% in 4 days as a direct result of their propping.


    stage managed, centrally planned school of marxist physiocracy at work, making certain we are ruined beyond ruin. there is simply no other explanation.


    have at it... even das capital held little mention of the socialist alternatives, but instead attacked the predatory nature of our system.


    apparently, they don't give a damn what the market wants because they have figured out how to control the price. now, price has nothing to do with the market. it's insane. notice how the fed defends the derivatives markets. because no one needs them more than the fed. without the derivatives market, they would have to fork over 10 times more cash than they already do. and...their footprints would be bigger than they already are.


    they are knee deep into the equities markets; they must be waist deep in the bond market. and both markets are priced to perfection.


    considering gnp and its net income from abroad are heavily weighted into our phantom gdp figures, the efforts being made to maintain the machinery, structures and 'productive' financial endeavors will continue without measure.


    factors that should produce 'stability' only produce waste.


    the building has been burned to the ground and now we are simply detonating its foundation. waste is everywhere, especially within the fed's manic desperation... none of us find this useful or even purposeful for our own well being.


    when the day comes when the foreign central banks stop throwing good money after bad, a nuclear bomb is going to go off in the financial markets, we just don't know when that's going to happen, but can look for signs.


    basic economic models assume:


    output: y = f(n,k,l)


    that is not the issue, the real issue is incomes:


    y = consumption (c) + government spending (g) + investment (i)


    given consumption is credit based asset inflation thru alan's wealth effect... less consumption is forthcoming.


    investment? who in their right mind 'invests' in distorted price signals with little if any intrinsic value?


    that leaves... 'g'


    and i see no signs of that letting up.


    hyper inflation of asset base stocks is going to spillover into price in exchange. We produce very little, yet consume a disproportionate amount. I sincerely doubt out paper airplanes will replace hard work when it comes time to rebuild capital stocks.


    if you somehow are managing to hold onto conventional monetary analysis implying 'deflation' is a pure monetary phenomena, you have a lot of explaining to do... as we are deflating with rapid expansion of both monetary facilities and credit.


    the issues remain capital & cash flows. free flowing property... we do not have this, what we have is a constricted system designed to channel flows.


    when an economic system can no longer perform due to dislocations, it matters little how much money you print.


    that only serves to exacerbate the dislocation in terms of price, function, flow and form.


    foundational economists having embraced all sorts of seemingly benign 'truths' and have much to learn as well, we all do.


    adam smith's wealth of nations could not have imagined the wrath of globalization.


    ricardo... ditto. competitive advantage for which... the lowest cost producer? someone wins, another loss. how is that mutually advantageous? it is not, the simple fact is the imf loans made to nations thought to be prime candidates for ca, found a concentration of industry in a few hands. this nation prospered under protectionist agenadas. pat buchanan wrote and excellent treatise on out nations history which contained a good deal of economic fact, very little of it was dependent on ca.


    marx.... divides property into property owners, the rest are a proletariat herd at their beck and call... people embrace economic slavery for the greater good.


    idiocy, putin has made that quite clear.


    von mises believed in the competitive efficiencies of markets, but failed to recognize the rising tide of intervention until it was too late, instead following a value of money and independence of capital and property, by far the best, one step short of brilliant.


    keynes, a meddler... pure and simple, he did not believe in markets, but intervention.


    freidman, a kook... adjusting the monetary base for stability is utter devoid of any logic.


    now we're faced with a fabain new age of purism for the greater good, dream of the blue turtles...


    it is all run by computers programmed by fallible humans with one eye on the prize... utopia.


    what folly,


    excavating ground for greenhouses today, good weekend all, adding QEE and riding.


    Post von John MacKenzie (Gold Eagle)

    and buy junior golds; Doug casey


    Exzerpt vom heutigen Midas:


    Doug Casey:


    "Junior gold stocks are the most volatile securities on the planet, with the possible exception of lately minted Internet stocks, and the market is still off about 95% from its previous peak. THIS CONTINUES TO BE THE TIME TO BACK UP THE TRUCK. If I could call your broker for you, I would.


    "What we're looking at is a rare opportunity, perhaps twice a decade in the resource stocks, to make a real killing. The last time it was this good was Jan 1993. In fact, now is actually the best time to buy gold stocks (and they're usually terrible things to hold) since 1971, when the dollar was devalued. Gold is now, in real terms, almost as cheap as it was at $35 back then; silver is considerably cheaper than it was at $1.29."


    The XAU slumped .51 to 81.70 and the HUI lost 1.49 to 172.73.


    While most gold stocks have been hit of late and have slumped, the beleaguered Durban Deep has traded better than most and risen back from the dead. It closed today at 83 cents.


    The world seems to be bearish gold these days. Too much company for me. Still think the surging cash market will keep The Gold Cartel from breaking it down

    Nun ja, das ist das Schicksal der Rufer in der Wüste - great beaches but no ocean.


    Clive Maund scheint etwas verwirrt und lässt jeden outcome zu. Good strategy for a guy who has been wrong once too often...


    OK, das war nicht ganz ernst gemeint, doch bleibe ich bei Ian Notely, der bis in die erste Juni Woche noch Probleme sieht - dann jedoch take-off!


    Die SM's BM's sind mehr als prekär. Ich würde keinen Pfifferling setzen - und da ich beinahe voll in Junior Golds investiert bin schaue ich nur nach weiteren Grand Canyon Idiotien.


    IMR ist ein solcher. Weitere 50Moz werden zur Resource per Juni dazukommen and still MILES TO GO! Die boys werden nach NY Gold Show in London, Genf, Zurich und Paris sein ... can't await the fireworks...


    Have fun and keep the faith - mein bester Alleinunterhalter - Cheers frr

    - While Crew is not Crown - denke ich, dass diese herben Korrekturen inherent typisch für frühe Bull Märkte sind. Der Papier Bulle der Aktienmärkte, der 1982 begann wurde auch erst in der Endphase der späten 90-er von der Masse adoptiert... Believe it, they climb a wall of worry! ... and we may well be on the crown (of the wall) for a second inning.


    Das bedeutet noch nicht, dass das breite Publikum mitspielt, jedoch die professionellen Anleger - lange bevor und potentiell noch länger bevor the blow off phase - when even Turkeys fly.


    Geh mit dem Trend - ich meine das Risiko nach unten ist vernachlässigbar , zumal kaum mehr Platz dafür ist - jedoch gegen den Mainstream.


    Real Contrarians are lost in hedonics and become Main Street, while the guys seeing the Big Pic will profit handsomely.


    OK, frag mich bitte nicht um eine Interpretation dieser scheinbaren Gegensätze - DYODD - oder mach deine eigenen Hausaufgaben!


    CEO's von Goldies sind meist ein Barometer für Contrarians - wenn sie beginnen an eine nachhaltige Entwicklung zu glauben ist es meist zu spät ... You've got to see them totally devastated and then you'd invest!


    Comprendre, Amigo Ulfur?


    Sorry - got carried away - aber wir sehen derzeit die meisten Prämissen in ihr Gegenteil verkehrt. Scheint mir das Endspiel des Welt-Cups in Floating Currencies, SDR's,.des IMF und der Weltbak; Und nicht zuletzt der Seignorage des US-Dollar Regimes...


    Shell games may again be played out in Kauri Muscheln, oder dergl. Orgien an (IN-)Tangibles, bevor man zur Ordung einer an Gold (vielleicht auch Silber) orientierten welt-Währungsordnung zurückkehrt?


    Und vielleicht auch nicht - which would be scary beyond comprehension, as global division of labor would again succumb to economic wars, the war on gold for the last decade may just be a percursor of this unfolding drama.


    Ist das nicht der Haquptgrund für die EU - oder haben wir von der Geschichte nur gelernt, dass sie sich zwar nicht exakt wiederholt, sich jedoch (nach Mark Twain) reimt.


    Mach Dir mal 'nen Reim drauf - während die Ösis den Staatsvertrag 1955 feierten - und nun wieder die Mittlerrolle in zentral Europa beanspruchen - kiefelt die alte BRD immer noch an den Ossis.


    Mit anderen, aber umso deutlicheren Worten - Papier - id est Fiat Währungen - sind allesamt Konfetti.


    Gold - get you some und dann Junior Gold Miners, die wie Babys mit dem Badewasser ausgeschüttet werden - Catch you some ... frr

    Rückt die Perspektive zurecht:


    http://www.goldmoney.com/en/commentary.php#current


    James ist zwar nicht der kurzfristig denkende Charttechniker, seine Meinung, oder besser Überzeugung behält "The big Picture" im Auge.
    Vielleicht sollten wir uns zurücklehnen und Hommelbergs Zusammenfassung über die Geschicke des Goldmarktes der letzten Jahre verdauen und unsere eigenen Schlüsse ziehen.


    Meine eigene Überzeugung ist ungebrochen. Wir sind in der frühen Phase eines längerfristigen Bull Markts in Gold, deren Produzenten und Explorern.


    Ferner, meine ich, dass die Zeit der aggressiveren Akkumulationsphase von Junior Minengesellschaften gekommen ist. Ich stimme hier mit Jim Puplava und einigen mehr überein, dass in diesem Sektor aussergwöhnliche Gewinne zu erwarten sind.


    Natürlich kann man auch grosse (ungehedgte) Produzenten für die nächste Zeit akkumulieren; Ich sehe jedoch im Junior Bereich das wirkliche Potential, zumal dieser Sektor im Schnitt zwischen 60 - 80% einbüsste.


    Been there, seen it and gladly take the opportunity the market is offering for Cents on the Dollar...


    Good luck and keep the faith - frr

    ...and we're close -


    Gold - Is the Party Over?
    Grandich Letter Special Alert Thu May 12, 2005
    Peter Grandich
    Grandich Publications
    Thursday, May 12, 2005
    10:00 a.m. EDT
    Gold: $423.40


    Like it or not, the term "bear market" would be a fair description of what has taken place in the junior resource market for several months. In fact, if you consider the sharp decline in junior resource stocks versus how well metal prices were doing at the time, the juniors were performing every bit as poorly as they were in the depths of sub-$300 gold.


    While this was taking place, the price of gold still managed to more than hold its own. However, it now faces perhaps its biggest test since it bottomed several years ago. Bearish sentiment has become far more "en vogue." Outside of the scattering of the always-bullish bulls, most players in the gold market have lost much of the bullish enthusiasm they once had.


    It's fair to say that the single biggest "perceived" driving force for gold was its inverse relationship to the U.S. dollar. As noted in my April 26, 2005, Blue Chip & Income Report alert, I noted that the U.S. Dollar Index was forming a potential bullish formation that could lead to critical resistance in the 86-area being taken out to the upside. If so, it could lead to a much stronger rise. One would expect this to be very negative to gold and a real test to the longevity of the gold bull market that has been in place for several years.


    Therefore, the natural stance would now be to join the bearish crowd. But before you do, let me remind you that the social, political, economic and religious problems facing the U.S. are unlike anything it has had to deal with in its entire history. The problems that were stated during the U.S. dollar's decline have not gone away (as much as the "Don't Worry, Be Happy" crowd on Wall Street would like you to believe). In fact, I believe they're more acute today than ever before.


    Gold may surprise many, even if it must go through an initial washout on the heels of the U.S. dollar rising above key resistance. The supply-versus-demand scenario has never been better. The very near-term ability for Chinese investors to buy gold easily is going to impact the supply/demand scenario in a powerful way. But perhaps most importantly, the fact that Americans have been robbing Peter to pay Paul and Peter is tapped out is going to override any perceived good news for the American economy.


    The reports of gold's demise is not just pre-mature, but can end up setting the foundation we need to finally get to: the $500 level.


    Peter Grandich
    ***


    No, not even close to a party at all... It's been a Dollar function instead of a party --- and don't ever think the US Reserve Currency can get away with
    its hedonic printing (oh, and BTW helicopter money), just because it's reserve status ... so was the Roman Denarius - and yes these guys also sported a huge military hegemony spawning the then known world - ... until the over-extension became unbearable.


    Nun ist die USA in 160 Ländern mit Militärbasen vertreten und Deutschland ist nach 60 Jahren nach dem WWII noch immer besetzt.
    Ist die USA nun eine Besatzungsmacht oder nur dazu da um ihre GI's die Freuden des Chiemsees oder Wiesbadens auszubaden?


    Nun Ja - als halber Ösi sehe ich die Historie etwas differenziert. Wir wurden sie los, die Besatzer und alle Besatzer mit unserem Staatsvertrag 1955 - gleich einem Wunder - though good riddance - und wenn wir auch keinen Wirtschaftswunder Ludwig Erhard hatten - hatten wir Grund zur Hoffnung.


    Wir hatten den Marshall Plan!


    Die letzte Grosstat der US - die wir alle mehr als abgegolten haben.


    Nun haben wir die Bankrotterklärung der USA 1971 im internationalen Kontext erlebt und sind imer noch im Bann einer vermeintlichen Grossmacht, die sich selbst überlebt hat. Eine Grossmacht, die zu ähnlich chauvinistischen, wenn nicht gar absurden neo-konservativen, mit Faschismus vergleichbaren Mittel greift um kurzfristig bestehen zu bleiben und ihre hegemoniellen Ansprüche aufrecht zu erhalten.


    Die wirkliche Macht ist längst in die Corporatocracy der neuen globalisierten (WTO) Weltordnung übergegangen; Eine Entwicklung, die George Orwells "1984" ins Reich der "Gute Nacht" Geschichten einreiht.


    Nun Ja, Gold oder nicht Gold, das ist die wahre Frage? Vielleicht vergleichbar mit Hamlets Sein oder Nicht Sein - in your own financial sense - that will be the ultimate question of your financial survival ...


    ... and the wake up call will be too late for the average investor - the prudent will be in the door by now and just take advantage of any bargain coming their way - ... Time's running out - says I! frr

    Have been away a bit lately and just skimmed this thread!


    BPM - has a.) secured a $ 2.5 million financing in Londontown and b.) has closed down the mill on a temporary basis.


    The reasons for b. is not a serious fault in operations: It is the result of prior problems of BC Hydro this winter and generally bad weather conditions during that time.
    The company has not been able to keep up its ambitous schedule to develop the Peter Vein, nor were they able to complete the new haulage way in time - due to a.m. conditions. The decision to close down is only prudence and not to waste money.


    These minor obstacles will shortly be overcome and free cash flow is still expected from the 3rd. Qu. onwards.


    Any further dips should be aggressively bought at this stage.


    I also would like to put in my favourite short term play - PMI Ventures in Ghana and my fafourite silver plays - IMR and ASM.


    Best regards

    Chris Powell (5/10/05; 23:24:47MT - usagold.com msg#: 132069)
    Reply to MK regarding derivatives and the Fed
    http://www.federalreserve.gov/…stimony/1998/19980724.htm
    MK, I agree with you that the "rolling crisis" seems to be in motion but I'm not sure that Greenspan really thinks there's nothing he can do about it. His recent remarks suggesting as much may be meant just to exonerate himself in case of disaster.


    Meanwhile, I get the sense that all the major markets are now being very closely manipulated by the central banks -- equities, bonds, gold, and commodities, at least oil.


    When Greenspan first articulated the Fed's opposition to regulation of derivatives -- his remarks to the House Banking Committee in July 1998 --


    http://www.federalreserve.gov/…stimony/1998/19980724.htm


    -- he was saying, explicitly about gold and implicitly about everything else, that the derivatives markets didn't need regulation because the Federal Reserve and/or the Treasury Department and other central banks themselves were ALREADY the big players in the derivatives markets. That is exactly what the Greenspan quote famous among gold bugs is about:


    "Nor can private counterparties restrict supplies of gold, another commodity whose derivatives are often traded over-the-counter, where central banks stand ready to lease gold in increasing quantities should the price rise."


    That is: "Don't worry, congressmen. We central bankers have the gold market under control."


    Further, this was Greenspan's proclamation, still hardly understood today even among gold bugs, that the very purpose of gold leasing is not what the central banks maintain -- to earn a tiny bit of revenue on a supposedly dead asset -- but to control the gold price and, with it, the rest of the currency market.


    Why would the Fed, if it was concerned about systemic risk to the financial markets, NOT want ordinary regulation of derivatives? Perhaps because such regulation would disclose that the bigger derivatives positions on the books of financial houses like MorganChase and Citibank and Goldman Sachs were actually U.S. government positions. Upon such disclosure the free markets being preached to the world by the United States would be exposed as not merely phony but a vast imperialistic scheme, surreptitious economic war against the rest of the world.


    What was the Counterparty Risk Management Group, formed by the New York Fed after it desperately arranged the orderly liquidation of the Long-Term Capital Management hedge fund, if not another instrument of market rigging, another evasion of anti-trust law, the rescue of the whole derivatives class?


    No, far from being powerless to intervene as the fiat money colossus superinflates and begins to topple over, the Fed and the Treasury may be weakening precisely because they are intervening surreptitiously in TOO MANY markets TOO OFTEN. We seem to be at the point where the government of any country with a substantial economy can pull the plug on the rigging at any moment -- Saudi Arabia by not pumping enough oil; China, Japan, even (yikes!) Taiwan and South Korea by not buying enough U.S. government bonds; Russia by buying gold; Europe by not leasing enough gold or by letting the euro get too strong; or even Cuba, by sending the Havana police department to raid Grand Cayman and copy and publish the records of the banks that lately have been buying the U.S. government bonds that the usual buyers have started to decline.


    The great scheme seems to have been to flood the world with mandatory dollars while controlling and channeling the inevitable inflation -- capping gold with leasing and commodity prices and interest rates with derivatives. But now too much money is out there and it is sloshing around crazily in pursuit of advantage through leverage that was unimaginable just a few years ago. It's getting to be too much for its creator to control -- it's Frankenstein or "Sorcerer's Apprentice" time. Something is going to give.


    Gold and silver have had their shortcomings as money but their virtue has been that they never could get the world into the current danger, never could become infinite money projected into infinity. I don't know what is going to happen but it is impossible for me to imagine a world in which gold and silver will be worth less than they are now -- which will not necessarily be such a great world for a while. But all we can do is the best we can do by our own lights.

    Interessante Diskussion zwischen GATA's Chris Powell und USAGOLD's Michael Kosares (MK):



    (5/10/05; 20:26:06MT - usagold.com msg#: 132066)
    Chris Powell. . . .
    http://www.usagold.com/amk/usagoldmarketupdate.html
    Thanks for the article you sent my way on the developing derivatives crisis vis a vis General Motors, Ford, United et al. . . .There will be more.


    What 'civilians' in the war on gold do not understand and will not be told is that the crisis at hand is the result of an interlocking web of counter-party agreements. This matrix, if I might employ a grisly metaphor, is like a web of directly connected nuclear power plants. In this web, if one goes it touches off a reaction in the next, and the next, and the next. . . .and so on. That is why you are seeing this extraordinary and bewildering onslaught of rumors. It's because the rolling crisis is in motion. People, including some of our most illustrious pundits, think they understand what is going on, but, in my view most don't . . .not really.


    In my last newsletter I tried to point out that I think Alan Greenspan understands this and he's trying to beg off saying that the 'invisible hand', 'chaos,' 'creative destruction' are all part of the market process. What he's really saying is that there's not much he can do about it, so don't drop this disaster at my door. What I've alluded to before in my various writings -- and emphasize now -- is that this may be something beyond the control of the central banks and the government.


    I started warning about this process (now engaged) years ago. Alan Greenspan knew the potentialities better than anyone and he refused to recommend the regulation of derivatives. Now the dark angel is at his and the financial markets' door. And this is just the beginning. . . . . . . . . .Let me say it again. If you do not own gold you better get some. If you don't own enough, buy more now. If you own enough, thank the good Lord that you do.


    My remarks and Alan Greenspan's statement is linked above.



    CP's Antwort im nächsten Post...

    - Da der alte Link spinnt - neues Thema ...


    Denke wir sind bald am unteren Niveau angelangt ... Hiezu ein Post von GE: hang tough goldbulls
    (jrmfl) May 02, 11:39

    this is about over, one more push down and we should have a nice panic bottom. 424/427 should hold. the mountain of paper dumped to push it down under 432 was enormous.


    keep the faith.


    This guy is John MacKenzie, who has been on the forefront predicting this HUI/XAU mess. He wasn't alone - as it was in realityIan Notely's cycle logic.


    Well here you are and do what you have to do!


    Cheers - frr

    Says it as he sees it:


    "Hambone (Where we are.) ID#263171:
    Copyright © 2002 Hambone/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
    At the tail end of a vicious cyclical bear market in PMs, within the context of a secular bull market.


    The cyclical bear is very long in the tooth now, and today's washout probably calls the bottom.


    Fundamentally, the gold case is stronger now than it was at the bull market beginning in 2001. The Fed's box is getting incredibly small, as the economy slows just as the Fed wants rates higher. The stock market is close to rolling over and the housing market has reached a manic pitch. Interest rates may invert shortly as long rates plummet and short rates don't. The dollar shows strength, but based on inherent weakness in foreign currencies more than fundamental factors favoring the greenback. Is the budget deficit under control; is the trade deficit? It's a race to the bottom as nations seek to weaken their currencies against all others. Such an environment is roaringly gold bullish.


    Yes, it's hard be bullish after such a beating. But this secular bull market in gold has barely started. You're looking at bargains in PM shares you won't see for years to come.


    Got gold?


    Ich seh's auch so und bin nicht ganz allein.


    Jetzt ist die Zeit zum akkumulieren gekommen!


    Go for it!

    Beide Titel wiesen stark reduzierte Gewinne aus und gaben erneut deutlich nach.
    Ich bin nicht vermessen genug dies als Indiz für die anhaltende Schwäche am Gold(Minen)markt zu sehen, doch ist es ein Indiz, dass sowohl gestiegene Kosten (Energie), als auch das eklatante "Highgrading" der letzten Jahre, sowie der schwache Dollar in produktionsländern mit stärkerer Währung (SA,CDA; AUS et al) zu dieser Entwicklung beitrug.


    Die anhaltende Schwäche im Goldminen-Sektor ist nun langsam übertrieben und wie ich meine sollte man langsam daran denken mit nach unten gestaffelten Limits seine Favoriten zu akkumulieren. Besonders am Junior Minen Sektor haben sich Schnäppchen herauskristallisiert, die nahe den allzeit Tiefstpunkten von 2000/01 liegen.


    Wenn die Geschichte erst einmal dreht wird man kaum noch die Chance haben zu Ausverkaufspreisen einzudecken.


    IMHO, wir sind nahe einer fulminanten Umkehr - even if the immediate future may hold some more unpleasant shocks ... SAhucks, go for it and go for GOLD!

    - Oder so ähnlich interpretiere ich RR ...


    Russell On Gold & Real Estate
    (vronsky) Apr 25, 17:16

    "As for gold, the Commercials continue to "have their fun" with gold. The Commercials are always short gold and silver, it's simply a matter of their being heavily short or lightly short. Over the last few weeks the Commercials (gold banks, gold mines, large fabricators) have been building up their short positions, so it's obvious that they playing for lower gold. Will they get it? They usually do, but even in the world of Commercials vs. big speculators (the hedge funds) nothing is certain. When gold goes into its later second and third phase, the Commercial shorts will be crucified -- but not yet.


    I thought the gold action was a little different today. I say that because the dollar was higher all day, but invariably, when the dollar has been stronger gold has been weaker. Yet today with a stronger dollar gold ended up .60. That's different action, and it maybe significant action.


    Real estate is where the US consumer has his money. The housing bubble is huge and seemingly growing bigger. I read the newspapers, and I read the Bloomberg -- but I listen to the market. And I notice that the building stocks, almost all of them, are starting to look toppy. Typical is giant Lennar Corp., a major builder. The stock appears to have topped out, and I wonder if this isn't an early warning for home buyers. The fun in home-buying is still going on -- but for how much longer?"



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    Richard Russell, Editor-in-chief


    Oh Ja ... Wie lange noch? - Und das ist die FRAGE!