Beiträge von frr

    ... Es gibt einen, auf den sich AQI beruft - LAC - Corona;


    Ich sehe es als reine Propaganda.


    Ich habe nicht vor mich zu wiederholen, doch geht es mir gegen den Strich von TT Driver in ein pro oder contra Eck gedrängt zu werden. Schon gar nicht wenn Charakter zum zentralen Thema stilisiert wird.


    Es ist im Übrigen ziemlich egal, ob TT oder andere Gift und Galle spucken und Joe G. einen schleimigen Itaka nennen - sie kennen auch die andere Seite nicht!


    Ich bin nur bestürzt dass "vielleicht" ganz g'scheite Leute lieber die Seite von Halsabschneidern besiedeln und dabei kaum überlegen ob das Ei vor der Henne - oder umgekehrt funktioniert - oder nie funktioniert!


    Es ist mir ziemlich egal, woher TT und Consorten Ihr wisdom of unchallenged prosperity herholen; Doch weiss ich eins - Joe & Co, including myself is looking totally relaxed towards the end of this - OK- fucking" - nuisance.


    Adieu


    frr

    frei nach "Globe and Mail" -


    http://www.stockwatch.com/swne…&symbol=ABX&news_region=C


    - und Placer nicht? - ist die Frage.


    Two birds of the same feather sagt Bill Murphy und schliesse mich hier an. Hab es schon gesagt - PDG hat immer gelogen wenn es darum ging ihre Hedgings zurückzuführen. Nothing happened - hab nun nicht die genaue Unze aber denke es geht immer noch um gehedgte 14moz.


    Der letzte CEO, J. (Jay) Taylor hat wirklich Mist gebaut und hat versucht es seinem Vorgänger Willson unterzujubeln, der ihm einen reine Producer übergeben hat.


    Mich wundert nicht, um mich zu wiederholen, dass JPMC, GoldSachs und andere interessiert sind etwaige margin calls bei PDG zu neutralisieren.
    Alle Probleme unter einem Dach sind leichter zu lösen als ein rogue event somewher else.
    Wenn NEM die White Knight spielen sollte ist sie für mich ein definitiver short Kandidat - die haben gerade die Schweinerei von Newcrest ausgebadet.


    ....


    Ich verstehe GG's Telfer nicht, der die kan. assets übernehmen will - und ich bin bereit mit Rob McEwens new ventures - US Gold in Nevada weiter zu gehen ...
    Way to go - Rob

    Wollte jedoch nur deine Augen öffnen - bevor Du ins Verderben rennst! Gönn Dir doch den weissen Sand for X-Mas.


    Betrachte es als Advent Charity - doch weiss ich Du bist steadfast backing a loser for reasons I can't fathom.


    Als Advent is coming hier ist mein Beitrag - Christian Morgenstern vom Feinsten und hoffentlich lässt mich mein Gedächtnis nicht im Stich:


    Pfeift ein Sturm
    Keift ein Wurm -
    Heulen Eulen
    hoch vom Turm?


    Nein -
    Es ist des Galgenstrickes
    dickes Ende
    welches ächzte,
    so als ob
    im Galopp
    eine müdgehetzte Mähre
    nach dem nächsten Brunnen lechzte
    der vielleicht noch ferne wäre ...


    Passt ganz gut TT - oder...

    ... dachte immer das Forum sollte ein Medium sein, um echte und wohl recherchierte Meinungen über unser wesentliches Thema - hard assets, PM's et al - auszutauschen. Ich bin der letzte persönliche Meinungen nicht anzuerkennen, doch sollten diese auf nachvollziehbare fakten aufgebaut sein!


    So weit, so gut - persönliche Angriffe auf mining manager oder andere, die dem poster so gut wie unbekannt sind kann ich weder nachvollziehen, noch bin ich bereit sie zu tolerieren; Insbesondere dann, wenn ich diese Leute seit vielen Jahren zu meinen persönlichen Freunden zähle und weiss wovon ich rede.


    I'm relaxed about the outcome and don't worry at all about either extortionists nor their fan clubs. This stuff may be wrapped up a lot sooner than we may believe ... we'll see, as it's still a nuisance and a glutting up the B.C. courts with utter nonsense....


    Happy Turkey day -frr

    ... and quit spitting in your own eye ...


    You remind me of Wile E. Coyote - way over the cliff and still not believing
    the only way is down. Maybe you'll also count the seconds of descent and tell yourself - no prob, yet!


    Guess, I've got better stuff to do as to spar with cocksure halfbrains.


    Thanks for your input - couldn't fill my "Restmüll" garbage bin without it.


    Cheers


    BTW - did you know that your hero Mark H. had 9 litigations going on only last year. He's still got 6 going - 2 he's lost and one was settled on terms of losing the defendant - his own father due to heartbreak! That's not libel only MH's history ... sounds like a real nice guy, eh?


    ... End of story!!!

    Was TT-Driver so alles aus seinem Kaffeesud liest.


    Hab selten so einen Mist gelesen, wie ihn dieser Knabe hier zum Besten gibt. Nehme an, dass einige Members hier zu einer anderen Meinung gelangt sind, nachdem sie Gelegenheit hatten mit Sean Hurd und Niko Caicos in München zu reden.


    Denke, die Richterin hat auch die Nase voll von Mark Henderson und will dem tolldreisten, jedoch kostspieligen Treiben ein möglichst frühes Ende setzen.


    Weiss nicht wie TT den folgenden Resource Investor Artikel interpretiert. Ist auch nicht wichtig, da ich bereits nach seinen ersten unqualifizierten Äusserungen zu Joe Grossos Charakter zum Schluss kam - qualify the quality of a poster by his willingness to accept the reasoning of both sides. On a gold site - always remember every coin has two sides - that's a lot better than any one-armed economist, who always argue on one hand ...


    http://www.resourceinvestor.com/pebble.asp?relid=14858


    Kann mir nicht helfen - der mann ist unbelehrbar!


    Cheers

    Denk es war ein echter Erfolg. Für die erste Veranstaltung dieser Grössenordung im deutschsprachigen Raum sogar über Erwarten gut besucht. Manöverkritik ist OK und notwendig, da dies zu einem annual event werden soll.
    Vielen Dank an alle Organisatoren, Co-Organisatoren, Sprecher, Firmen, sowie an alle interressierten Besucher!
    Besonders nett war es viele Gesichter ihren Handles zuordnen zu können. Gruss an alle - besonders hatman, hw, lupo , für den ich unten Silvercorp Metals, Cathy Fongs Interview mit David Morgan Mitte Sept. anhänge:


    http://www.freemarketnews.com/eTVLaunch.asp?rid=258


    Die neuesten News und shareholder letter von Yukon Zinc - vie der lieben Jasmin TamDoo linke ich demnächst.


    Beste Grüsse
    frr

    Du hast wirklich keine Ahnung ...


    Doch was schlimmer ist Du schmeisst bewusst mit eindeutig ehr-abschneidenden Vokabeln herum. Ich finde das nicht nur höchst unanständig sondern auch im Endeffekt klagbar - Henderson muss ganz begeistert von dir sein - Du sprichst ihm aus der Seele.


    TT - sei unbesorgt - und kaufe mehr Aquiline - Adler, die zum Aasgeier werden ...


    Adieu frr

    Yep, you're right.


    I just hate uninformed and biased info from wherever it happens to originate.


    Shit, I'm kind'a cool.


    BTW come to the GOLD MESSE in München on Nov.18/19 - hey it's this week. It'll be quite a show!


    Anyway, thanks for reminding me before blowing my cool forever ...
    Cheers - frr

    Es fällt mir schwer nicht so ausfällig zu werden wie dein letztes Statement.
    Du urteilst über Leute, die du nie gesehen, gesprochen noch die geringste Ahnung von effektiven Zusammenhängen und Fakten hast.
    Du meinst dir aufgrund von ähnlich orientierten "Idioten" auf Stockhouse dir ein Bild machen zu können.
    Nun, das hast du - und was nun? Ätze weiter und mach dich total lächerlich - ein Zustand der dich mit Henderson verbindet - oder bist du mit der Richterin verschwägert.


    Denke du bist meschugge ... um es einigermassen nett auszudrücken; as I read Totalitarian Tantrum Driver of no real consequence.


    Cheers frr

    Die "Corona" (sans Lac... ha,ha) von Beratern rund um Henderson zeugen davon - während Li'l ole Joe allein, gelassen and maybe smiling to himself takes the scenario as it is - a scenario von aufgeschreckten Hendeln (Hühnern in Germania) vis a vis a sedate and assured mining executive knowing what is coming his way. I'd wager total success for IMA and defeat for Aquadung - as a US friend of mine has dupped the extortionists - and as I foresee TT will maybe be among the disgruntled shareholders suing Henderson for not accepting the last IMA offer.
    An offer calculating costs of litigation and lost time in development of the mine ... shucks!


    Guess, Henderson will be delighted as he thrives on litigation - on this one he may just choke - kon koan bessern treffen, oder?


    On the side - it's kind'a tellin' that Joe Grosso was elected the Miner of the year by the Argentinian Geological Society in Buenos Aires ... only Yesterday!


    Look guys I'm not pretending to know more or being smarter than any of you. The only thing I know is that I trust Joe G. and have done so for ever and I know why! Comprendre?


    Cheers frr

    ... Vergiss nicht Deutsche Bank, UBS, den Vatikan (Papartat!zis sind unberechenbar) und BIZ.


    ... und kommt zur Goldmesse in München am 18. u. 19. Nov. ...


    Best

    bringt Newmont ins Spiel via vis Placer Übernahme. Kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass Lassonde ein Hedgebuch von Placers Grössenordnung übernimmt. hatten dieses Problem schon einmal mit Newcrest.All Eyes on Newmont in Latest Gold Rush


    By Andy Hoffman
    The Globe and Mail, Toronto
    Wednesday, November 2, 2005


    http://www.theglobeandmail.com…leNews/TPStory/LAC/200511
    02/RNEWMONT02/TPBusiness/Canadian


    Newmont Mining Corp.'s next move may very well depend on how much
    size matters to its Canadian-born president, Pierre Lassonde.


    If successful, Barrick Gold Corp.'s $9.2-billion (U.S.) hostile bid
    for Vancouver's Placer Dome Inc. would topple Denver-based Newmont's
    hold on the title of world's top gold producer.


    Analysts say it's a mantle Newmont and Mr. Lassonde may not want to
    give up.


    "It's kind of the industry's dirty little secret," said Victor
    Flores, an analyst with HSBC Securities. "They all talk about
    wanting to be the most profitable, but boy, do they all want to be
    the biggest."


    Newmont became the world's biggest gold company in 2001 with a $4.2-
    billion, three-way merger between Australia's Normandy Mining Ltd.
    and Canada's Franco-Nevada Mining Corp. Mr. Lassonde co-founded
    Franco-Nevada with long-time business partner Seymour Schulich in
    1982.


    Mr. Schulich has stepped away from day-to-day operations of the
    company but remains on Newmont's board. Mr. Lassonde, meanwhile, is
    responsible for much of its strategy and operations along with
    chairman and chief executive officer Wayne Murdy.


    Sources say the company has hired investment bankers to explore the
    possibility of a bid. Calls to Mr. Lassonde's officer in Denver were
    not returned. A company official said the company does not comment
    on merger and acquisition activity in the sector.


    "I think Newmont is probably bothered a bit because they enjoyed
    being at the front of the line," said John Embry, Sprott Securities'
    chief investment strategist.


    Gold industry players point to Newmont as the most likely company to
    step up with a counter-bid for Placer. They say it could achieve
    cost savings similar to the ones expected by Barrick by combining
    Newmont's existing operations in Nevada and Australia with Placer's.


    Newmont, however, is unlikely to be interested in all of Placer's
    operations, particularly those in Africa. If Newmont were to decide
    to launch a competing bid, analysts said it would likely be done in
    conjunction with other producers, such as Kinross Gold Corp. of
    Toronto and South Africa's Gold Fields Ltd. "I suspect they might
    need some help," said Michael Fowler, an analyst at Desjardins
    Securities.


    Barrick's offer contains a similar arrangement. Toronto-based
    Goldcorp Inc. has agreed to pay Barrick $1.35-billion in cash for
    several of Placer's mining assets if Barrick succeeds in its
    takeover bid.


    J.P. Morgan analyst John Bridges said Newmont is "the obvious and
    quite possibly the only company that could take on the
    [Barrick/Goldcorp] group."


    He also suggested a Newmont counter-bid would likely include side
    deals to sell some Placer assets. Mr. Bridges pointed to Kinross,
    AngloGold Ashanti Ltd. of South Africa, or BHP Billiton Ltd. of
    Australia as possible Newmont partners.


    "[Newmont's] management group in Nevada could probably take control
    of Placer's Nevada assets without pausing for breath. The Australian
    assets could be a useful fit. But Newmont would probably be less
    interested in the East and South African assets."


    Analysts doubted Newmont would have trouble raising capital.


    "I think they could draw on the market if they wanted to," said Mark
    Smith of Dundee Securities. He said a Newmont bid would likely
    include a stock and cash component, similar to the Barrick offer.


    "They are larger than Barrick and they certainly have the financial
    means to take on Barrick," Mr. Flores said, adding that Newmont was
    sitting on roughly $2-billion in cash and liquid assets at the end
    of the third quarter.


    With the bidding starting at $9.2-billion for Placer, some industry
    players question whether Newmont could achieve enough cost savings
    to make a bid worthwhile.


    "I don't think they'd do anything stupid," Mr. Embry said. "One
    thing about Pierre and Seymour -- they made their living by buying
    smart. They like to buy assets on the cheap."

    and how the CB's figure to avoid a short squeeze - again via GATA:


    From: "cxpowell" <gatacomm@...>
    Date: Tue Nov 1, 2005 1:04 am
    Subject: Is Barrick's bid for Placer meant to turn another big hedge book 'evergreen'? cxpowell
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    7:57p ET Monday, October 31, 2005


    Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:


    The Reuters dispatch below seems to be the first news
    service story that recognizes the importance of hedging
    -- sales of borrowed gold -- in regard to Barrick Gold's
    proposal to acquire Placer Dome. But the Reuters story
    doesn't quite reach the insight about the proposal that
    was offered tonight by GATA Chairman Bill Murphy in his
    "Midas" commentary at LeMetropoleCafe.com and by Tan
    Range Exploration CEO Jim Sinclair in his commentary at
    his Internet site, JSMineset.com.


    While Barrick's bid for Placer Dome is said to be
    unsolicited or hostile, Placer Dome is, like Barrick, a
    major hedger, except that it lacks what Barrick has called
    its own "evergreen" gold hedging arrangements. That is,
    Barrick has boasted of its ability to borrow virtually
    unlimited amounts of gold inexpensively for 15-year terms
    that can be renewed every year so that, in effect, the
    gold never really has to be repaid.


    Like Blanchard & Co., whose lawsuit in U.S. District Court
    in New Orleans has charged Barrick with rigging the gold
    market, GATA has surmised that Barrick's virtually infinite
    supplies of gold come from central banks via Barrick's
    bullion bank, J.P. Morgan Chase. (For who else but central
    banks has that much gold to "lend"?) Indeed, seeking
    dismissal of the Blanchard lawsuit, Barrick filed a motion
    in court confirming as much -- claiming, in effect, that
    it is the agent of the central banks in regulating the gold
    price, and that, since the central banks have sovereign
    immunity against suit, that immunity should extend to
    Barrick itself as their agent:


    http://www.lemetropolecafe.com…03/memoformotiontodis.pdf


    If Barrick acquires Placer Dome, presumably Placer's
    hedging liabilities will be covered by the "evergreen"
    provisions of Barrick's hedging arrangements with the
    central banks via Morgan Chase, and thus the danger of
    a short squeeze against Placer's hedging will be
    eliminated.


    Like the Bank of England's series of gold sales begun
    in 1999 and the Washington Agreement on Gold signed
    by the European central banks that year and renewed
    this year, Barrick's acquisition of Placer Dome can
    be seen as part of a central bank scheme to rescue
    all large private parties that are short gold, a
    scheme accomplished at a heavy public cost -- the
    discounted dishoarding of the various national
    patrimonies.


    If this indeed is the central bank scheme, it means
    that the gold price is not likely to rise abruptly or
    rapidly, as many gold bugs dream -- and, indeed, the
    gold price has not done so. But it also would mean
    that the central banks are attempting a controlled
    retreat with gold, and a retreat that is not without
    danger.


    The five-year chart of the gold price that is
    accessible on the link displayed halfway down the
    right side of the home page at Kitco --


    http://www.kitco.com/


    -- tends to confirm this. For the chart shows a rising
    30-degree angle and an average annual gain for gold
    of about 15 percent over five years.


    As with everything else really important done by
    central banking, no one is supposed to notice this,
    for once the central banks' scheme is understood,
    the market may become less cooperative with their
    market rigging; the market may rediscover the only
    sure thing: gold.


    So GATA will continue to try to help people notice.


    CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
    Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.


    * * *


    Barrick Bid Seen Bullish for Gold Price


    By Zach Howard
    Reuters
    Monday, October 31, 2005


    http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/051031…ls_gold_barrick.html?.v=1


    NEW YORK -- A potential deal combining Barrick Gold with Canadian
    competitor Placer Dome may offer support to gold prices due to
    increased de-hedging and it should not dramatically affect the
    outlook for production, metals analysts said on Monday.


    Gold sources felt that joining the two firms who have long used
    forward sales and/or options to lock in prices of unmined gold would
    probably mean a bit less hedging in the market.


    The combined firm likely would have more cash flow and would better
    be able to more aggressively roll out of the hedges they have, which
    could lift gold's price, the analysts said.


    "It could potentially have a small, short-term impact on gold,
    depending on what they decide to do with the hedging within Placer
    Dome," said Victor Flores, a mining analyst at HSBC in New York.


    "That should be positive for prices because I don't think Placer
    Dome has been very pro-active on the de-hedging front," said another
    gold analyst, based in Canada, who declined to be named.


    Hedging protects producers in times of low gold prices as they lock
    in better prices for their metal, but it prevents those miners from
    fully enjoying a rally if contracted prices are cheap relative to
    current prices.


    Barrick, recently the owner of the industry's biggest gold hedge
    book, said Monday it began an unsolicited $9.2 billion bid for
    Placer Dome -- historically also a large hedger -- in a deal that
    would create the world's biggest gold miner.


    The announcement was notable as gold holds near a recent 18-year
    high due to strong investment and jewelry demand.


    It also comes at a time when the industry is struggling with higher
    exploration and mining expenditures, brought on by lofty energy
    costs.


    A successful takeover would boost Barrick -- already Canada's
    biggest gold miner and the world's No. 3 -- ahead of U.S.-based
    Newmont Mining Corp. and South Africa's AngloGold Ashanti Ltd.
    (ANGJ.J) in world rankings. Placer is the world's No. 5.


    Barrick said a deal with Placer Dome would produce 8.3 million to
    8.4 million ounces of gold a year, and would mean spinning off a
    sale of several mines to fellow miner Goldcorp.


    One market watcher said the Barrick/Placer news was bullish for
    gold, in part because it seemed to show Barrick was betting the
    metal's price would remain strong.


    Barrick offered $20.50 a share for Placer, a 24 percent premium over
    the prior closing price in New York on Friday.


    "With gold still around an 18-year high, Barrick offering a 24-
    percent premium for Placer Dome is definitely a bullish indicator
    that the price is going to continue to rise," said Emanuel Balarie,
    senior market strategist at Wisdom Financial Inc. in Newport Beach,
    California.


    If the Barrick/Placer deal goes through, production plans of the two
    miners probably would not be sharply affected by the consolidation,
    however, the analysts said.


    "It could mean a little bit of a slowdown of the expansion of growth
    production because you'd have one management moving those projects
    forward rather than two," said Jeffrey Christian, managing director
    of precious metals consultant CPM Group. "But I'm not even sure that
    you'd see that.


    "I think those two companies have relatively like-minded management,
    so my thinking would be that there would be little change -- less
    change between those two companies than there would be with others,"
    he said.


    Last year, the world's sixth biggest producer, Harmony Gold,
    launched a hostile takeover bid for rival Gold Fields but the offer
    failed.


    Traders said on Monday they initially thought gold might jump up on
    the news, but fund selling later hit the market on concerns about it
    being steeply overbought at current levels.


    Benchmark gold futures in New York ultimately ended 1.7 percent
    lower at $466.90 an ounce on Monday.


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    Ich meine was immer Barrick angreift hinterlässt einen bitteren, üblen Nachgeschmack! Es ist schon seit langem klar, dass Barrick von JPMC im Sinne der CB's und anderer Bullion Banken kontrolliert wird. Quasi eine Versicherung gegen explosivem Goldpreis. Barrick und nun auch Placer sind anti Gold. Fehlt nur noch Anglo zum dreckigem Viertel-Dutzend.


    Grüsse