Die Geschichte wiederholt sich zu oft...Allesklar ? ![]()
Ich verkaufe Gold und Silber nur wenn ich muss und lasse mich ueberraschen was ich dann alles kaufen kann.
Maximal 4 Jahre die sitze ich auch noch ab. ![]()
Ben hat den Geschichtsunterricht immer geschwaenzt, Ron Paul hat ihm aber gewarnt.
Ben sagt er kaempft gegen die Preiserhoehungen in erster Linie (mit seinen gefaelschten CPI Daten und Geld aus dem nichts)
Er sagt auch... das muss der Kongress entscheiden ob ein Goldstandard eingefuehrt werden muss, das geht ihm nichts an. ![]()
Beiträge von Eldorado
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Hey, schleichts Euch in den Muenzthread und macht dort Eire Deals...

Das ist doch kein Muenzladen hier... -
Denke mal nicht das es so schlimm wird wie in Zimbawe, aber dort konnte man vor Jahren die Inflations Rate auch nicht ausrechnen.
Im Moment liegt die bei 165.000 % !!
Falls man dort Gold kriegt legt man knappe 2.3 MRD Zimbabwe Dollar hin.
Nehmen wir mal an die Amis haben bis dort hin 15 trillionen USD Schulden geteilt durch 8000 tonnen Gold was kommt dann fuer ein Goldpreis raus damit die glattstellen.
Eine tonne Gold sind 32.000 Unzen, alles zusammen 256 millionen Unzen. ...ich habe keinen bock oder taschenrechner das auszurechnen, Zeit fuer ein Glas Wein.
Lieg ich richtig ?? Schlappe 59.000 USD die Unze ....
ist ja noch preiswert im vergleich zu zimbabwe. 
Die koennten so was planen die Saecke...kommt auch hin mit dem monetary gold price von dem der redet.
Schwupp di Wupp, Goldpreis rauf, die EZB hat verkauft...an uns fuer Fiat Dollars, Schulden weg, die Deppen sitzen auf den US Dollar.
Welcome Amero, neuer Wechselkurs, Euro AETSCH !Bis $1000/oz ist Gold superbillig, bis $3000 ist es billig, erst ab $10000 wird es teuer, ab $50000 dann sau-teuer.
Bis $50/oz ist Silber superbillig, bis $150 ist es billig, ab $500 wird es teuer. -
Vielleicht laeuft es so ?...
Kurz vor den totalen USD Kollaps und eintretende Waehrungsreform mit Schwenker in den Amero bewerten die Amis ihr (EUER EZB GOLD)
dann den Goldpreis ganz rauf.
Dann stehen sie stehen wieder gut da, die meisten Schulden in USD sind verschwunden oder die anderen bleiben drauf sitzen.
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David Bond sagt in seinen Interview mit Bob Hopper das die FED nun uferlos auf Kosten der Steuerzahler Geld verschenkt an die moroden Banken vorrausgesetzt wenn sie erstmal alle ihre PM Aktien verkaufen.
Das heisst man verkauft fuer z.B 10 millionen Dollar in Kanada oder USA die PM Aktien und bekommt dann 30 mille vom FED als Loan den die eh nicht mehr zurueckzahlen.
Das erklaert nun warum die PM Juniors so schnell und tief gefallen sind, diese DRECKSBANDE !
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Zahnstocher nicht vergessen, damit man den Gegner in den Hintern pieckst.

Und Schlangenserum, im Fall man trifft auf eine Giftschlange.
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Alles ist moeglich, in Zimbawe kostet ein Brot 40 millionen ZimDollar.
Hast schon eine Notfallausruestung Pandadler ???...go get it
U.a...strapazierfähige Kleidung in dezenten,
gedeckten Farben (Blau-, Beige-, Ocker-, Braun- und evtl. auch Olivtöne. Aber KEINE
Kleidung aus dem Militärshop; insbes. KEINE Flecktarnanzüge oder komplett in
Schwarz gehaltenen Kleidungsstücke. Letztere sind weltweit "Markenzeichen" von
Sondereinheiten und Sie können sicher sein, dass feindliche Scharfschützen
solche
Ziele bevorzugt bekämpfen. Darüber hinaus verzichten Sie bitte auf allen modischen
Schnick-Schnack !!!

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Edel, laut Spica muss man auf den 2.November und den 17.November achten, da sollte was passieren was das Rad drehen kann.
Die Wahl selber ist es aber nicht, die ist am 4.November.
Ist nicht mehr weit hin, also abwarten !XEX
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Edel ich war am Dachboden und fischte nochmal den Wong raus was er vor 4 Jahren geschrieben/vorrausgesagt hat und vergleiche das nun.
Die Amis kriegen es dick in 2009, erst recht wenn sie Iran angreifen.
Die werden sich dann selber isolieren und man fordet die Schulden von USA im Ausland.Zu Silber sagt er :
It is clear that during inflationary periods, Gold/Silver ratios fall.
Since the coming great event is hyperinflation, I expect the ratio to fall to 20-40 (like years 1960 to 1980) which is about half of the current ratio of 70.
This means that for 100% rise in Gold (Gold price is doubled), Silver will rise 300% (Silver price is quadrupled). On this reasoning, I would advise buying Silver also....moreWenn ich 30 nehme dann ist Silber heute schon 45 $ wert !
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/wong/wong010104.html
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/wong/wong030504.html
Eingetroffen bis auf die Zinserhoehung die bald kommen muessen.
CONCLUSION
Here are the main points:
1. Hyperinflation is imminent.
2. Past analyses indicate the following will happen:
Gold will soar.

U.S. dollars will collapse.

Interest rates will climb sharply. (soon) ab 2009 >>>>>>>>
3. The reference point for the hyperinflation is the 3rd quarter of 2004. By planetary correlations, the most bullish phase has been located. It is from end December 2004 through early August 2005. However, Gold will rise significantly before this period.
4. Gold price will greatly surpass the high reached in year 1980.
5. It is advisable to invest in Silver also because Silver rises more rapidly than Gold.
6. Hyperinflationary forces will disintegrate by the end of August 2005.
Jupiter is by far the biggest planet in the solar system. Its mass dwarfs the combined masses of all the other planets (the Sun excluded). A battle is being waged in 2010 between Jupiter and Saturn by Opposition (Jupiter fights Saturn which is at the opposite side of the circle).At the start of year 2010, Jupiter is at Aquarius 26.4 degrees. It moves rapidly to enter Pisces in the third week of January and in the short space of 4 months 23 days it traverses 31.5 degrees to reach (on 23 May) the opposite point of Saturn (Saturn stays at Virgo 27.9 degrees). A battle between Jupiter and Saturn has begun. To commence the combat, Jupiter has traveled at nearly 3 times its normal speed to reach the battleground. Normal speed is to travel 30 degrees in 12 months. This indicates the US Government is acting expeditiously and decisively to tackle the USD disaster. (Comparison: irresolution in 2009).
For 4 months (May-August), they are on opposite positions in a tug of war contest, consuming each other's energy. During this period, Uranus joins Jupiter in the first degrees of Aries (see table above). With the help of Uranus, Jupiter vanquishes Saturn.
Jupiter (USD) the Almighty giant planet emerges victorious. The defeat of Saturn (Satan or anti-USD) has been vividly recorded by John Milton in Paradise Lost Book I:
"Him the Almighty Power
Hurld headlong flaming from th' Ethereal Skie
With hideous ruine and combustion down
To bottomless perdition, there to dwell
In Adamantine Chains and penal fire,
Who durst defie th' Omnipotent to Arms."With the downfall or demise of anti-USD, does it foretell the rebirth of USD?
Yes. A new US dollar.
The gold dollar.
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Der Astrologe Wong wurde hier schon mal durchgekaut, er schrieb das vor 4 Jahren, mal schaun obs stimmt bis jetzt.

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/wong/wong010104.html
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Naechste Woche wird es noch spannender, hoffentlich hat der Jim Willie recht und Mahendra bekommt den Kookaburra Grammy als Lachvogel 2008.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0ZbykXlg6Q&feature=related
Correction in Gold Near End
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Edel, was fuer welche brauchen wir: viele reserven, gute grades, gute infrastruktur, niedrigsten produktionskosten, ohne politischen risiko,gutes management,cashflow,
ooh das permit habe ich noch vergessen

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Der soll mal sein Glueck in Indien erstmal versuchen und die Leute dort ueberzeugen das sie ihr Gold gegen Silber eintauschen.

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Hi Rita
Gut das du wieder in deinem Eck bist...was du schreibts, daran gibt es nichts zu meckern, eher zustimmung.

Die Tendenz ist man sollte nur Gold Explorer ins Depot nehmen die mehr als 1m Unzen nachweisen koennen am besten mit open pit und guten grades.
Frag mich jetzt nicht wieviel es bei den Silberexplorern sein muessen, auf jeden Fall alle die kurz vor der Produktion stehen werden gefragt sein.
Gruss
Eldo
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Es ist nicht 100% tig sicher ob das was man oben vorschlagt auch funktioniert und somit die manipulation vom PPT stopt und dann der silberpreis explodiert.
Ich fahre auch zweispurig weiter bei den aktien und ein drittel Silver mit 2 drittel Gold physisch bis mal klarheit kommt welcher zug nun schneller faehrt.
Wenn dann genug Anleger drauf sind springe ich wieder ab.
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WHAT ABOUT GOLD?
There are some pro-Gold items which, in fairness, should be weighed against all the pro-Silver arguments:
1) Gold does not tarnish. (That’s nice but hardly a reason not to make the switch)
2) Gold is promoted and perceived by the world as the “Greatest Monetary Metal”….at least for now!
Don’t worry about Gold….really. Gold, like Silver, will find its rightful place in a freely traded market. It should take less than $5B of physical Silver purchases to buy up all of the available Silver bullion, and that would only mean switching out of about 180 tons of Gold on a physical basis. 180 tons would not significantly damage the price of gold. Now $5B removed from GLD/SLV, Gold/Silver Pooled Accounts, Gold/Silver mining stocks, etc. would be much better for the price of Gold should also not cause any permanent damage to the gold investment community. As a matter of fact, can you think of anything more positive for the price of gold and gold investments than the destruction of the Cabal?!
SO WHAT IS THE TRUE PRICE OF SILVER TODAY?
I don’t know but I do know that the price quoted on the COMEX today is not even close to its Fair Market Value. It makes more sense to me to estimate the true price of Silver in relation to another “Monetary Commodity” such as Gold since gold is currently “perceived” as the best monetary metal.
- Based on my estimates of total above and below ground Silver (17Boz) and Gold (8Boz) the Silver/Gold Ratio should be 2.1-1. With Gold trading at $880/oz Silver should be trading at $419/oz or is 25X UNDERVALUED!
- Based on my estimates of total above ground Silver (5Boz) and Gold (5Boz) the Silver/Gold Ratio should be 1-1. With Gold trading at $880/oz Silver should be trading at $880/oz or is 52X UNDERVALUED!- Based on my estimates of total monetary bullion above ground Silver (1Boz) and Gold (3Boz) the Silver/Gold Ratio should be 1-3. With Gold trading at $880/oz Silver should be trading at $2,640/oz or is 155X UNDERVALUED!
Of course all this is predicated on the assumption that gold is fairly valued at $880oz today which almost everyone agrees is a joke. Since the USA holds a little over 8,100 tons of gold in reserve it is logical to assume that Gold will back the US dollar when the fiat money system fails (not hard to imagine the failure of the US dollar). With the M3 money supply currently estimated to be in the $15 Trillion dollar range, the price of a redeemable gold backed US dollar would be about $60,000/oz IF the US stopped printing dollars today.
The $60,000/oz Monetary Gold price would put the value of monetary above ground Silver bullion, as analyzed in the last bullet point above, at….
…. $9,300,000 per oz!
Crazy, I know, but it really doesn’t end there!
- Based on the FACT that Silver is being consumed 120% faster than it is currently being mined/produced and the Gold above ground supplies are growing at 2% per annum the Silver/Gold Ratio Formula should be [(Above Ground Silver)(-20%) to (Above Ground Gold)(1.02%)]. With Gold trading at a massively manipulated low price of $880oz, Silver should be approaching INFINITY AND IS INFINITY(X) UNDERVALUED!
Wow….chilling conclusions…have you traded your Gold for Silver yet?

For those of you who have not removed the pre-conceived notion of Gold as
the BEST monetary metal I ask you to take a look at the 5-year price action of the
2ND BEST CONDUCTOR OF ELECTRICITY
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Road to Roota V
By Bix Weir
MELT THE WITCH
…swap all your Gold for Silver!

Attention GATA Army:
What would you do to take down the Gold Cabal? What would you sacrifice? How hard would you work if you KNEW that the culmination of your effort would end the long term manipulation of gold? As for me, I am very tired of fighting the Cabal, but I am also tired of watching all that I love about my country get washed out to sea by the Manmade Monsoon of Market Manipulation that is currently sloshing over the United States of America.
LET’S FINISH THIS THING!
I’m going to say it flat out…SELL ALL YOUR GOLD INVESTMENTS NOW AND BUY PHYSICAL SILVER! This is not a joke and don’t get me wrong, I am the biggest “gold bug” you’ve ever meet, but it is time we ended their evil game. The Cabal has shown their Achilles Heal over the past few months and it is not gold but the depletion of Physical Silver available for delivery that will ultimately lead to their demise. Many of us figured out long ago that physical Silver will likely run out before physical gold simply due to the tiny size of the Silver market compared to Gold, but most of us have not ACTED on this knowledge to accelerate the demise of the Gold Cabal due to our affinity for Gold and all that Gold represents… sound/honest money, freedom, liberty and justice for all!
Recently, I have been thinking a lot about Gold as money and why I personally believe that Gold is the best form of hard money. Why not Silver or platinum or copper or zinc? I must admit that most of my knowledge on this subject comes from the writings of other people. I have read hundreds of books and articles by brilliant economists, sound money advocates and other monetary philosophers who have dedicated their lives to the study of monetary theory. I am truly amazed at the vast amount of intellectual capital that has gone into the analysis of Gold as money with each monetary thinker building upon the knowledge passed down by others through the ages.
BUT WHAT DO I THINK?
If I had no idea about monetary theory and history, what would my conclusions be? How have these writings influenced my affinity towards gold as opposed to other hard metals? Is it possible to NOT be influenced by information passed down over the years and clear my mind enough to use my own cognitive reasoning on this subject?
This is what I have been pondering since the “GATA Goes to Washington” conference and my conclusions have shaken me to my Gold Bug foundations! Although the facts and fundamentals of gold as the best form of hard money may have been true 50 years ago, the world of Gold and Silver has changed dramatically since then such that now SILVER is hands down the best hard money investment compared to all other metals….even GOLD!
HERESY AT THE CAFÉ!
I am hoping Bill Murphy will still publish this piece on LeMetropoleCafe.com even though I am asking people to SELL all their gold. Let me tell you it was a difficult conclusion to draw considering I have held onto my gold like a crazed miser for the past 8 years, but facts are facts and when you clear your mind long enough to examine them you too will “find religion” in SILVER. Don’t get me wrong, gold is a very good investment but when compared side-by-side to Silver you too will make the switch faster than a Hillary Clinton “Super Delegate” the night before she pulls out of the Presidential Race!
THE FACTS
The following is a list of facts and reasons to switch all your Gold investments into Physical Silver:
1) The Gold Banking Cabal is heavily involved in the suppression of the price of Silver and would be mortally wounded when Silver breaks the bonds of manipulation. Due to the tiny size of the market and the lack of physical Silver available to the manipulators, the Silver battle is much easier to win than Gold.
2) Central banks have NO physical Silver to assist in the manipulation of the Silver market but they still have a lot of physical Gold (although much less than they claim).
3) The majority of Silver mined every year is consumed as an industrial metal in very small amounts and will never return to the market whereas the amount of above ground Gold grows year after year.
4) Silver has developed, due to its low price and superior physical properties, into a vital and necessary industrial commodity that makes it mandatory for modern life. If we woke up tomorrow and gold vanished from the face of the earth, life would continue pretty much as it was the day before. Without silver, modern life would change.
5) Due to the relative very low price of silver and very high price of gold, the man in the street, around the world, is in a position to buy silver in much greater quantities than gold.
6) In various forms there is an estimated 5B oz of above ground Gold and 5B oz of above ground Silver but Gold trades at $880/oz and Silver trades for only $17/oz. Both metal prices are obviously manipulated but Silver appears to be manipulated more. As for Silver bullion that is “in play” for the manipulators, I estimate that less than 300M oz remain (COMEX Inventories + SLV Inventories) with a current market value less than $5B.
7) Silver has been in a supply deficit for over 50 years! Governments held approximately 10B oz of silver in 1950 and have been supplying that physical stock steadily into the market. Today there is no more of that surplus silver left to sell.
8 ) At current Silver consumption rates there are only 18 years of known Silver reserves remaining in the world. AFTER THAT SILVER WILL BE GONE FOREVER! Think about it.
9) Demand for Silver is price “inelastic” in its industrial applications because it is used in such small quantities per application. An increase in price does not translate into a decrease in consumption.
10) The COMEX Silver short position is the largest concentrated short position of any commodity, on any exchange in the history of financial markets.
11) Throughout human monetary history the Silver to Gold ratio hovered in the 10-1 range until the invention of futures and options trading in metals. Since that time the ratio has risen to where it now stands at over 50-1.
12) The US Dollar as defined in the Coinage Act of 1772 is Silver, not Gold, and contains “three hundred and seventy-one grains and four sixteenth parts of a grain of pure, or four hundred and sixteen grains of standard silver.”
13) Silver is massively under reported in the media vs. Gold. Even Jim Rogers, the commodity guru, purposefully ignores Silver entirely in his best selling book “Hot Commodities” even though Silver exceeds all other commodities using his metrics on what makes a strong commodity.
14) Very few investors have physical Silver in their possession. Reasoning: because they claim it is “too hard to store”. Does that mean when Silver trades at over $1,000 oz people will be more willing to buy and store physical Silver? It is difficult to make up a more bullish reason to take delivery and store physical Silver TODAY…when the Cabal price rigging scam finally fails you can always buy your own Fort Knox to store all that pesky Silver you bought!
15) Gold’s strong fundamentals are only exceeded by Silver’s so when the gold manipulation stops and the Gold price takes off investors will be looking for the next under-priced investment with similar characteristics.
16) 470M oz of Silver owned by the US Treasury and used in the Manhattan Project for the construction of the atom bomb have all been melted down and sold into the physical market to support the “Strong Dollar Policy” http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/silvermystery.html
17) Silver mineral deposits, as opposed to Gold, are usually very shallow in the earth’s crust due to the nature of the geology so most of the large deposits of Silver have probably already been found and/or already mined limiting future discoveries.
18 ) There is a significant problem with counterfeit Gold bullion because of its high price. Silver bullion has not, to date, had as much of a counterfeiting issue because its price did not justify the effort. (although there is a problem with counterfeit Silver jewelry which may significantly suppress Silver scrap recovery in the future…oddly bullish by-product of counterfeiting Silver!)
19) The total dollar value of the Silver market is a fraction of the total dollar value of the Gold market.
20) Most flat screen televisions use Silver in their internal electronics/screens and the US transfer from analog to digital signals in February 17, 2009 should temporarily increase the demand for new TV’s when the switch is made. http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html#faq3
21) Retail physical shortages of Silver are already beginning to appear around the world.
22) Hedge funds are bleeding from the credit crunch and they are looking for ways to save themselves. A single hedge fund can scoop up the remaining physical Silver and blow the price sky high.
23) In the US, Gold confiscation laws are still on the books but there are currently no silver confiscation laws.
24) In March 2008 the Gold price breached $1,000 or 120% of its historical high. Silver, on the other hand, only approached $21 or 40% of it’s historical high suggesting that Silver has a long way still to go.
25) Un-backed paper Silver programs such as silver certificates and unallocated pooled accounts are the “industry standard” these days and will be scrambling for metal when redemptions are called in by the investors.
Hopefully, that’s enough pro-Silver data to convince you to make the switch.
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It seems that most of central and southern Africa is on a fast elevator to hell.
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Some 90% of the animals have been destroyed since 2000 when President Robert Mugabe began seizing and dividing productive white commercial farms into smaller plots to divide amongst his supporters. The ZCTF documents massive deforestation and widespread slaughter of the wildlife. According to the report Zimbabwe had 620 private game sanctuaries before the land invasions began. Now only 14 remain. Of the 14 conservancies before 2000, only 1 remains.
http://www.frontline.org.za/ar…hina_for_Military_use.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT_6GuDl-lE
UND DIE WELT SCHLIESST DIE AUGEN !....jetzt wo man sein Ziel erreicht hat.
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Kann man wieder sehen was passiert wenn man einen Schwarzen die Freiheit gibt und die Macht.
Es gibt zu viele Beispiele...
Obwohl ich das nicht verallgemeiner will...
Frueher war das anders...da hatte man noch Angst und Respekt vom Gesetz.
Heute schauts duester aus...
Travel Advise:
http://www.smartraveller.gov.a…/view/Advice/South_Africa
THE CRIMINALIZATION OF SOUTH AFRICA
http://www.frontline.org.za/ar…20of%20south%20africa.htm
Frontline News:
http://www.frontline.org.za/INDEX.HTM