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WHY GATA IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE HEARD ON WALL STREET:

The Manchurian Investor
(spielt wohl auf den Film The Manchurian Candidate an, in dem es um Gehirnwäsche geht)

Warning: Wall Street is secretly brainwashing you

By Paul B. Farrell, CBS.MarketWatch.com
Last Update: 8:16 PM ET Aug. 10, 2004

ARROYO GRANDE, Calif. (CBS.MW) -- Ever wonder why you feel like you're addicted to financial news, like you need a fix if you don't catch the latest market-moving hot-breaking news tip?

Ever get super-anxious, like you're detoxing when you go more than a few hours without checking CNBC, Fox or MarketWatch, or reading The Journal, Kiplinger's or Money?

You're now "The Manchurian Investor!"

You're being brainwashed by what BusinessWeek calls the "Wall Street Hype Machine," a powerful cartel that spends $15 billion a year trying to turn you into a robotic junkie addicted to the business news ... which is indirectly controlled by America's big ad spenders in the financial industry.

Warning: If you're still buying their hype I hope you'll "wake up" soon because some respected market experts are now advising investors to go to cash, warning of an eminent collapse with the Dow testing its 2002 low around 7,500!

The Wall Street cartel (including its co-conspirators in the mutual fund, insurance and banking industries) are at work gaining absolute control of your brain by making you believe you cannot trust yourself to think independently without their advice and assistance.

Wall Street's secret brainwashing machine

So they're brainwashing you into becoming another one of the millions of Manchurian investors in America. How? Very simple: by confusing you with schizoid, double-bind messages. They tell you to think long-term about asset allocations while they are churning your funds 100 percent annually on the average.

They tell you to stay the course, be a patient, passive buy-and-hold investor. Then they spend $15 billion on advertising while at the same time making sure their high-paid guru analysts and portfolio managers get exposure as talking heads and sound-bite providers on the same networks, channels and publications they advertise on.

For example, recently Wall Street's creators of the new "Manchurian Investors" condoned a respected financial magazine publication of a great article advising an investor that his 20-fund portfolio is too big and he would be better cutting down to just eight funds. That's all, just eight funds for a well-diversified portfolio.

If you look closely at so many other issues and stories and watch the cable networks or go online for data anytime through the trading day you'll be overwhelmed with advertisements and articles recommending hundreds and hundreds of funds and stocks. Remember Wall Street and its buddies have a total of 10,000 funds and 8,000 stocks that they gotta push like Wal-Mart.

Every month you can bet a dollar to a doughnut you'll see one of the key magazines sporting a tabloid-style exploitation cover coming at you like a flashing neon sign -- over and over and over you hear about "The 25 Best Funds," or the 100 best, or 8 best, or whatever.

But the $15 billion a year Wall Street Hype Machine stays on message -- the "long-term buy-and-hold is best" message while at the same time they also push you into schizoid hell with their incessant pounding surrealistic double-bind advertisements grabbing at what few brain cells you have left.

How bad is it? If you are already a Manchurian Investor, or any other mildly active investor trying to keep up with what's happening in the world, you should be aware of why you feel the anxieties you feel. So here's my back-of-the-envelope estimate of the number of times you get exposed to hot tips and recommendations from all the major financial media:

Cable television hits you with 15,000 securities per year

Imagine watching CNBC, CNN and Fox for the annual barrage of 250 market days. Now multiply the number of ads plus "recommendations" from talking heads and hosts being thrown at you during an eight-hour day. On the conservative side at least 20 stocks and funds pop up on the screen every day for a total of at least 15,000 every year. And this fair-and-balanced onslaught doesn't include your local business channels and network television.

Daily newspapers: another 20,000 securities per year

Now consider the added barrage that comes packaged in The Wall Street Journal, Barron's, USAToday and your local newspaper. That's 250 issues a year, 50 for Barron's and 365 for your local newspaper -- loaded with another estimated 20 journalists "recommendations" and ads shouting at you for attention in just these four newspapers.

Monthly magazines: add 6,000 more securities per year

Let's assume you're a subscriber to all the good ones, BusinessWeek, Kiplinger's, Money, SmartMoney plus one other that offers financial tips. That's five magazines times 12 months with another hundred securities mentioned in each issue in the ads or articles written by journalists. That's another 6,000 hammering away at your every years.

Total securities "recommended" by media: 42,000+ per year

No wonder we're all feeling brainwashed and manipulated as The Manchurian Investors, addicted to a news overload that is far, far beyond the capacity of our brains to process. We get hit with 42,000 "recommendations" for funds and advertisements each and every year ... that's more than 100 every day!

And still these jokers have the audacity to tell us that 8 to 10 funds is all the diversification your portfolio will ever need!

Put these two contradictory crazy-making claims together and you get a devious form of brainwashing that makes the Manchurian Candidate look like child's play.

And since I'm on the inside of the hype machine, I guess I'm guilty of the same sin. But at least most of the time my message is limited to telling you to stick to two, or four or nine -- but no more than 11 -- funds that make up a well-diversified, long-term, buy-and-hold portfolio for the average passive investor.

I do that in hopes that what I say can sneak past your Manchurian brain and into what's left of your brain cells that are not controlled by the Hype Machine.

Link dazu

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2004/0811.html

sehr Zeitnah geschrieben,aber

Grüsse

Kalle

Bitte noch mehr so positive Berichte.
Die Silber und Gold Elliot Wave Analyse - sieht super aus.

Weiter so Kalle!!!

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Experten sehen langfristigen Abwärtstrend

Charttechniker warnen vor Kurssturz

Von Ulf Sommer

Selbst gute Vorgaben der US-Börsen helfen nicht mehr. Trotz der Schlussrally am Dienstag in New York ging es in Europa gestern weiter abwärts. Ob Deutscher Aktienindex (Dax), Euro-Stoxx oder Tec-Dax, alle wichtigen Kursbarometer näherten sich wieder ihren Jahrestiefständen.

DÜSSELDORF. Schuld daran ist nach Meinung von Händlern und Analysten die Charttechnik: Nachdem große Indizes wichtige Marken, so genannte Unterstützungslinien, unterschritten haben, sinken die Kurse. Und sie werden weiter fallen, wie die Charttechniker mittels Interpretation von Kursgrafiken vorhersagen.
Ein Blick auf den Dax und den amerikanischen S&P-500 zeigt stellvertretend für alle großen Indizes in Europa und den USA, dass die Märkte ihre „stabile Seitwärtslage“, in der sie seit Jahresanfang verharrt hatten, nach unten verlassen haben. Selbst die Erholung an den amerikanischen Märkten am Dienstag änderte nichts mehr an dem negativen Bild. Zu tief war der vorangegangene Fall. Das heißt, die Märkte sind jetzt nachhaltig unter ihre Unterstützungen gefallen – eine wichtige Voraussetzung für Charttechniker, um neue Prognosen abzugeben.

„Es geht weiter abwärts“, sagt der Darmstädter Charttechniker Lutz Mathes. Die nächste Unterstützung sieht er für den Dax bei 3 500 Punkten. Dort verläuft der langfristige Abwärtstrend, den die Börsen im März 2000 eingeschlagen haben. Eindeutig sieht er auch die Lage in den USA, wo die 2003 eingeschlagenen Aufwärtstrends gebrochen wurden. Im S&P-500-Index liegt seiner Meinung nach die nächste Unterstützung bei 950 Punkten. Demnach beträgt das Abwärtspotenzial noch mehr als zehn Prozent. Jeff de Graaf vom Investmenthaus Lehman Brothers sieht nach dem Jahrestief am Freitag vergangener Woche nichts mehr, was einen weiteren Fall des S&P 500 aufhalten könnte.

Das Ende der langen Seitwärtsbewegung beschwört aber auch Diskussionen herauf, dass der eindrucksvolle Aufwärtstrend zwischen März und Dezember 2003 nur ein Intermezzo innerhalb der ausgeprägten Baisse war, die im März 2000 ihren Lauf genommen hatte. „Die Aufwärtsbewegung war eine ausgeprägte Bärenmarkt-Rally“, sagt Mathes. Er ist davon überzeugt, dass der langfristige Trend nach unten zeigt. Historisch betrachtet sind in ausgeprägten Baisse-Phasen Aufwärtsentwicklungen von 30 Prozent und mehr nicht ungewöhnlich. Japan erlebte solch eine „Bärenmarkt-Rally“ in den 90er-Jahren dreimal, ohne dass sich an dem negativen Gesamttrend etwas geändert hatte.

„Das gegenwärtige Chartbild der meisten Indizes ähnelt in Besorgnis erregender Weise dem vom Mai 2002 kurz vor einem mehrwöchigen Kurssturz“, meint Klaus Deppermann von der ING BHF-Bank. Damals war der Markt nach einer ausgeprägten Seitwärtsbewegung nach unten abgedriftet. Auch wenn diesmal kein Kursrückgang im Ausmaß von 2002 zu erwarten sei, so rechnet Deppermann „in den nächsten Wochen mit einer Beschleunigung der Abwärtsbewegung“.

„Längerfristig müssen wir uns vermutlich an den alten Tiefs von März 2003 orientieren“, befürchtet Mathes sogar großes Abwärtspotenzial. Gemessen am aktuellen Niveau, wäre das im Dax ein Minus von 40 Prozent. Doch so weit müsse es nicht kommen.

Weniger dramatisch beurteilt Achim Matzke von Commerzbank Securities die Situation. Er sieht die Märkte lediglich in einem Abwärtskanal – das heißt, die Kurse sinken, aber nicht dramatisch. Eine ganze Reihe von Einzelaktien habe schon frühzeitig Verkaufssignale gesendet. Deshalb komme der jetzige Richtungswechsel der Indizes nicht überraschend. Unterstützungen auf dem Weg nach unten sieht Matzke bereits im Bereich von 3 580 Punkten, also nur gut 100 Zähler unter dem jetzigen Stand.

Auffällig ist, dass die technischen Analysten das fundamentale Umfeld, also betriebswirtschaftliche und volkswirtschaftliche Daten, berücksichtigen, dabei aber ebenfalls zu einem negativen Fazit kommen. Zwar überzeugten die meisten Unternehmen mit guten Quartalsergebnissen. Auch sprächen die nach wie vor niedrigen Zinsen für die Aktie. Aber, so Matzke: „Der steigende Ölpreis und die Tendenz zu steigenden Zinsen deuten auf eine Abkühlung hin. Damit laufen die Märkte in eine raue Phase hinein.“

Die Alarmzeichen:

Herdentrieb: Charttechniker konzentrieren sich auf Kurscharts, um ihre Prognosen zu erstellen. Je mehr Investoren danach handeln, desto heftiger sind die anschließenden Kursausschläge, wenn Unterstützungs- und Widerstandslinien gebrochen werden. Vor allem große Adressen wie Versicherungen verkaufen Aktien, wenn bestimmte Marken unterschritten werden, um so weitere Verluste zu vermeiden.

Handelsvolumen: Derzeit geringe Börsenumsätze bei sinkenden Kursen sind ein Alarmsignal und signalisieren, dass Verkaufsaufträge wenig Käufer finden. Zur Bereinigung des Marktes kommt es erst, wenn die Umsätze steigen – wie beispielsweise zum Ende der Talfahrt im März 2003.

HANDELSBLATT, Donnerstag, 12. August 2004, 07:11 Uhr

http://www.handelsblatt.com/ps…4/SH/0/depot/0/index.html

Hallo Ulfur,

schuld ist also die Charttechnik? Interessante Sichtweise, ich hatte immer gedacht, dass die wirtschaftlichen Aussichten, der Ölpreis, das
Konsumverhalten, die Dollarstärke, niedrige Leitzinsen usw. kursbe-
stimmende Faktoren sind. Da habe ich mich wohl getäuscht.

Gruss

Warren

Warren,

mir scheint schon, daß die Charttechnik zu den neuen Jahrestiefkursen wesentlich beigetragen hat. Die Anleger sind noch von den negativen Erfahrungen der letzten Jahre beeinflußt , es ist womöglich eine höhere Geneigtheit da, bei Kursabschwüngen die Sache nicht auszusitzen, sondern möglichst schnell das Zeug rauszuhauen.

Dieses Jahr bestand eine Seitwärtsbewegung, es war nicht klar, ob die Indices nach oben oder unten ausbrechen. Es reichen kleine fundamentale Anläße(US-Arbeitsmarktdaten), die Unterstützungslinien werden nach unten durchbrochen. Für viele ist das dann das Klingelzeichen, um zum Ausgang zu rennen. Damit wird die Bewegung verstärkt. Insofern ist die Charttechnik auch eine sich selbst erfüllende Prophezeiung.

Hallo,

als Neuling hier habe ich eine Frage:
Welche Silber-Aktie könnt ihr empfehlen? Wo habt ihr Euer Geld drin und warum? Von MGN hab ich gehört, bin mir aber nicht sicher. Was sagt ihr?

Danke für Antworten!! :))

Hallo poki,

Reine Silberminen sind durch die Bank bereits zu teuer, meine Meinung.
Wenn überhaupt irgendwo rein, dann mit einer kleinen Position in
Macmin. Ich persönlich bin in Macmin investiert, allerdings ist das die
kleinste Position. Warum ich den Wert gekauft habe? Weil ich auf einen
steigenden Silberpreis spekuliere und Macmin einer der heissesten
"Silberzocks" ist, die es momentan gibt. Allerdings ist das Risiko eines
Totalverlustes ständig gegeben. Das ist eben Geschmackssache.

Gruss

Warren

Macmin also, okay. Werde mich mal schlau machen....
Danke!! :))

August 12 - Gold $393.90 down $1.50 – Silver $6.53 up 2 cents

Letting It All Hang Out!

"...I do not see that one can blame the majority of Germans who, in 1933, believed that the Reichstag fire was the work of the Communists. [The Parliament burned down and a convenient Communist arsonist was fingered, which the Nazis used as the excuse to unleash police-state tactics against all opponents.]

What one can blame them for, and what shows their terrible collective weakness of character clearly for the first time during the Nazi period, is that this settled the matter. With sheepish submissiveness the German people accepted that, as a result of the fire, each one of them lost what little personal freedom and dignity was guaranteed by the constitution; as though it followed as a necessary consequence."
Sebastian Haffner, Defying Hitler, 1939

http://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/germany-1933.htm

Wake up America about what your own government has been up to for some time, before it is too late! Remember when you were kids and as you were taught history you thought how could the average German have ever let that have happened? Well your kids and grandkids are going to be reading the same history books many years from now and ask how YOU could have ever let happen what Washington and Wall Street are doing to America today. Chris Mathews of CNBC’s HARDBALL recently said on his acclaimed show that he had traveled around the world of late and found that "America is hated." It is NOT for no reason. It is time for our once great nation to wake up to what the financial/political powers have done and keep doing - all for the WRONG reasons!

As long as this sort of suspicious attitude prevails in the poor areas of the world, America is going to find itself in deeper and deeper trouble as the years go by in this new "terroristic time."

KHARTOUM, Aug 12 (Reuters) - Sudanese President Omar Hassan al-Bashir on Thursday accused Western nations of interfering in its troubled western Darfur region to try to exploit Sudan's gold and oil resources.

Sudan is under intense international pressure to rein in Arab militias, accused of looting and burning African farming villages, and provide security for more than 1 million people displaced by the fighting in the remote area bordering Chad.

If not, the U.N. Security Council in a July 30 resolution says Khartoum could face unspecified sanctions. There has also been talk of possible foreign troop intervention in Darfur.

Bashir on Thursday said Western nations, especially Britain, were inflaming the Darfur fighting to destabilise wider Sudan.

"There is an agenda to seek for petrol and gold in the region," he told a women's union meeting on Darfur in Khartoum on Thursday. –END-

This is not anti-America diatribe on my part, it is pro-America and anti where the power structures in Washington and New York are taking our country. The way I see it is the question for the average American is, "if you were living around 1776 what side would you have fought on?" The establishment British or the Colonists? Would you have fought to preserve tyranny and the banking elitists or for freedom and your deserved rights? Like it or not, that is close to where we are in 2004 in many regards.

Not only are Americans in peril of losing long cherished freedoms, the average Joe and Jane are in danger of losing a good deal of their hard earned money when the stock and real estate markets collapse – due to bursting "bubbles" engendered by the former strong dollar policy of Robert Rubin, rigged markets (most importantly the gold price) and deliberate misinformation emanating from Washington and Wall Street.

It is time for America to wake up before it is too late!

If the venerable Jim Sinclair has it right, it may already be too late. From this latest missive at http://www.jsmineset.com:

Thursday, August 12, 2004, 11:30:00 AM EST
Blunder of Blunders - NOCs take Notice
Author: Jim Sinclair

The final act in this drama will be the population taking down the new government of Iraq and demanding a Theocracy under the influence of Iran while the Kurds and other elements demand autonomy. The West will be rendered incapable by having their economies held in hostage via oil.

The inflationary implications of this will deliver a spike up in gold of an enormous magnitude thanks to the manipulation by the powers that be that have so far prevented the normal market power of gold to unfold. The net result in markets for anything is to construct an internal coil of power that once released by such events will multiply the upside potential by orders of magnitude. Dan Norcini's read on the USDX extension on the downside will become a reality. All this might be closer than anyone is willing to accept.

-END-

Fellow Café members saw it (gold) this way early this morning:

Hi, Bill:
Let's see now. Dollar down? Yup. Stock markets down? So far. Oil up? Yeah, but so what? Gold's down. Even though it might appear to many of your frustrated readers that nothing much has changed in the world, everything has changed. One of these days soon, Toto will pull back the curtain on the Great Oz to reveal the truth.
Jay

Morning Bill,
This fraud is getting very old. The absurdity is sickening. Both gold and the dollar down. For some reason I keep thinking about an old poster that pictured a hawk on a tree limb with the statement: "Patience Hell, I Need to Go Out an Kill Something!" I continue to remind myself that the payoff is going to make this slow torture all worthwhile, and the fundamentals just keep getting better. Although, as you indicated last night, just what is their bullion supply? Geopolitical events are really heating up, in addition to the existing wars, Iran and the China Sea armada are stoking the flames. Things continue to be very curious indeed. Time is on our side!
Rich

The gold related news of the day was BULLISH all the way around, which you will read as you go on with the MIDAS. A list:

*Oil shot up as high as $45.75 and closed at $45.50, up another 70 cents per barrel.
*The dollar FELL .18 to 88.80 and the euro ROSE .44 to 122.54.
*Fighting in Iraq is intensifying.
*The US economic news continues to be abysmal and is worsening by the week.
*The US stock market was soft all day and both the DOW (9815, down 124) and the DOG (1752, down 30) closed on their LOWS.

Gold? It shot up early and then THE GOLD CARTEL launched one of their price-capping assaults, taking it from up $2.60 to down $1.50, where they sat on it for most of the entire trading session. The Kitco daily chart looks line another flatline brainwave of a dead person. Gold, after making its high AGAIN in the first half hour, barely traded for the entire session after its take down. And that is with the stock market cratering and oil surging. ONCE AGAIN, we see gold manipulated by the cabal RIGHT at the time gold should be taking off. You have to wonder how desperate the devious crooks are? I think REAL desperate.

The US economy is weakening, the dollar is shaky, the effects of the last few years of stimulus are over, oil is soaring and Iraq is a mess. The geopolitical and economic/financial market news is very likely to worsen from here on in through the rest of the year. Can’t see the bums being able to hold gold down too much longer. The creeps are going to be blown out of the water.

A potential BIG plus for the bull side of the gold market:

The option writers on the gold floor have been writing calls on the metals markets with impunity as of late. By the way they are writing the options, it appears they don’t believe gold will make a move in the next half year. This could be a source of panic shortcovering in the months ahead.

The gold open interest fell 901 contracts to 218,161.

Silver was quiet most of the session after falling back from its opening 10 cent. Its open interest fell 1575 contracts to 95,616.

Good news on the warehouse stocks front. After a 600,000+ ounce build yesterday, the silver stocks fell 1,193,826 ounces this afternoon to register a new low of 110,416,153. Still going the right way!

The John Brimelow Report

Gold Crossed

Thursday, August 12, 2004

Indian ex-duty premiums: AM $6.32, PM $6.64, with world gold at $395.85 and $396.15. Ample for legal imports. India is a strong importer at these prices. Mitsui-London noted that yesterday:

"Gold was bid initially through NY with decent spec buying but Euro weakness spurred dealers and locals to hunt down weak longs. Aggressive physical buying from Turkey and India provided support." (JB emphasis)

Some interesting light is shed today on the state of the physical market by a report in a Gulf newspaper today that a jewellery show in Jordan last week saw record sales, more than twice the usual in the event’s 5 year history. Jordan, of course, has no oil, and is in the unenviable position of being sandwiched between Israel and Iraq. However, this has meant boom times for the Jordanian trucking industry, supplying the occupation forces. Your US tax dollars at work! See

http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp

TOCOM continues unimpressed. Volume fell 25% to only equal 9,244 Comex contracts, and the active contract was down 10 yen. Open interest slipped another 789 Comex equivalent. World gold stood 80c above the NY close at the end. (NY yesterday traded 48,754 lots: open interest slipped 901 contracts.)

Yesterday saw powerful selling after the US data, with more than half the estimated volume going through in the first 90 minutes of Comex. Refco Research blames "fund and dealer" selling, while Standard London, in an unusually frank commentary, appears to suspect short selling:

"Gold opened in Asia almost 2 dollars lower and it was evident what were on the Asian dealers mind. One could almost see the glint of their smiles while rubbing their hands as they were finally having the first chance to direct the gold’s movement. So gold opened at 397.70 bid and dealers initially sold it cautiously…Gold was soon banging at 396 but physical demand underpinned the market there …With all things considered, 397 seemed like a pretty good level to get short for the day and so the European dealers gamely started selling it as well. …After COMEX opened… everyone scrambled to sell some gold before the prices became unattractive. Gold was pushed lower gradually and eventually established the day’s low at 393.20 offer. Without fresh selling interest, gold recovered its composure to close at 395.40 bid, which technically is a bearable closing as it did not close below 395."

This simply seems unwise in view of the buoyancy of the physical market.

Brightening up a day in which another dreary round of trench warfare seems to be underway between Eastern physical buyers and North Atlantic sellers is a piece by Jessica Cross of Virtual Metals, published late last night on Reuters. Most of this is a complaint about the shrinkage in the bullion dealer community, a.k.a. possible buyers of VM’s service. However, the occasion of the report is the publication of the "Hedge Book" survey VM does for Mitsui. This shows that producer hedges were cut by more than expected in Q2 ’04:

"A Hedge Impact reduction of no less than 4.6 Moz was substantially more supportive of the gold price than a simple committed ounce measure would have suggested. And yet the price over the period fell from $427/oz to $393/oz. This tells us that in the absence of this decline in hedging, the gold price would have most likely fallen further and faster than it did...As US interest rates turned up, signalling to many observers the end of dollar weakness, so it appears that the speculative side of the gold market went short in volumes that swamped the supportive 4.6 Moz of dehedging and resulted in the subsequent price vulnerability."

(Cross maintains, no doubt correctly, that the hedge reduction impact was accentuated by the gold price decline and lease rate changes, which influence the "delta".)

The problem with the claim that this powerful uplifting influence was offset by spec shorts is that there is absolutely no evidence that such shorting occurred. Indeed, the CFTC data showed just the reverse, and was widely thought to be replicated on a larger scale OTC. And, as Cross notes, lease rates remain "glued to the floor".

Lower prices + big producer hedge reduction + no huge spec short increase = Undisclosed Central Bank activity

A conclusion from which establishment publicists like Virtual Metals always shrink.

JB

The complete Virtual Metals report follows for your perusal:

The Hedge Book Q2 04.pdf

Another gold industry joke, this Virtual Metals. Perhaps hoax on the industry is more like it. This report is completely disingenuous as it fails to deal with the real reason the gold price tanked in the second quarter. To blame the specs going short as a reason is ludicrous. For years Mr. Cross, now of Virtual Metals, dealt with the large BIS gold derivatives numbers as being related to the hedgers. Now that the hedgers have reduced their positions sharply over the past few years while the derivatives have not gone down, she says nothing and shies away from the issue.

The gold price is suppressed because there is a Gold Cartel out there surreptitiously feeding central bank gold into the market to keep the price from rising. How clear can that be?

By the way, for new Café members, Ms. Cross is married to the former number two at the South African Reserve Bank. During my tour of South Africa I met with the bank’s number 3 and 4 in a government building in Pretoria to lay out the gold scam story in an effort to expose the fraud and free the gold price. The main beneficiary of a sharply rising gold price (then about $258) would be the people of South Africa. The two bankers giggled part of the time like a bunch of school kids when they thought I wasn’t looking.

CARTEL CAPITULATION WATCH

The dismal US economic news:

08:30 July Retail Sales reported 0.7% vs. consensus 1.2%; ex-Autos reported 0.2% vs. consensus 0.4%
Prior Retail Sales revised to (0.5%) from (1.1%); ex-Autos revised to (0.3%) from (0.2%).
* * * * *

(This is old news, however it is negative because it reveals a weakening trend, one which won’t be helped in the months to come by sky high oil.)

The Bank of Korea cut its key interest rate Thursday, stunning markets, in an attempt to bolster the flagging South Korean economy despite the threat of rising prices
* * * * *

08:59 Moscow court denies YUKOY more time to repay its $3.4B tax
* * * * *
Reuters:
"Britain became a net importer of oil in June for the first time in 11 years, official data showed on Tuesday."

10:25 Yukos local shares halted for trading at 10 minutes after this hour
Halted for one hour on the local shares, according to Micex. Meanwhile, September WTI crude oil continues to move higher, now at $45.30, with the expected corresponding drop in stocks. Dow (0.88%) to 9850.64; S&P 500 (0.82%) to 1066.99; Nasdaq Composite (1.21%) to 1760.87.
* * * * *

A monster disappointment:

Aug. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Hewlett-Packard Co., the world's No. 2 maker of personal computers, said third-quarter profit rose to $586 million, less than analysts expected, as sales of its server and storage computers fell. The shares declined as the company cut its forecast for the current quarter.
Results are ``unacceptable'' and Hewlett-Packard will make ``immediate management changes,'' Chief Executive Carly Fiorina said in a statement that included preliminary results…. – END-

Even the high end is suffering:

Tiffany & Co misses by $0.04, guides Y04 below consensus (TIF) 31.80: Reports Q2 (Jul) earnings of $0.25 per share, $0.04 worse than the Reuters Estimates consensus of $0.29; revenues rose 7.7% year/year to $476.6 mln vs the $496.8 mln consensus. Company issues downside guidance for Y04 (Jan), sees EPS of $1.55-1.60 vs. Reuters Estimates consensus of $1.64… - END-

China has its problems too. Will they send them our way?

Bill;
Well look what we have here. Inflation is only a transitory problem in China too. Thank god for that!

Aug. 12 (Bloomberg) -- China's consumer prices rose last month at their fastest pace in more than seven years as food costs surged, making it harder for the central bank to avoid raising interest rates. Bonds fell after the report. .........

.....``The inflation pressure is transitory,'' said Chris Leung, an economist at DBS Bank Ltd. ``Why raise interest rates when the economy is already slowing?''..

Monkey see, monkey do.
Rob

Wall Street pundits were hoping yesterday that the inventory numbers would show healthy decreases. They didn’t get them:

10:00 July Business Inventories reported 0.9% vs. consensus 0.6%
Prior reading revised to 0.7% from 0.4%.
* * * * *

WASHINGTON, Aug 12 (Reuters) - Inventories at U.S. businesses rose more than expected in June, marking their largest gain in four years and their tenth consecutive monthly rise, a government report showed on Thursday.

The Commerce Department said June business inventories rose 0.9 percent to $1.234 trillion while sales at manufacturers, retailers and wholesalers grew 0.1 percent. Wall Street economists had expected a milder 0.5 percent rise in June stocks.

The June business inventory gain, the largest since a matching rise in June 2000, pulled a key measure of inventory leanness from recent lows. The stock-to-sales ratio, which measures how long it would take to deplete stocks at the current sales pace, rose to 1.31 months in June from 1.30 months in May…. –END-

More bad economic news:

"The Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago said its index of manufacturing activity moved 0.7 percent lower in June compared to May's levels. Three of the four sectors followed by the index declined in June while the fourth group was unchanged. The May reading was revised to show a 0.1-percent tick higher."
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The energy problem is not only about oil:

US coal prices soar as output declines

Financial Times
Published: August 12 2004
US coal prices are rising rapidly as unexpected growth in demand this year is undermined by declining domestic production, according to Standard and Poor's.

The ratings agency says in a report to be released on Thursday that demand has risen because of the stronger economy, weather-related usage and the running of coal plants at higher capacities as utilities have increasingly switched to the fuel to avoid paying skyrocketing natural gas prices.

Yet US production to meet this demand has been declining over the last few years and coal exports have increased, with high-grade thermal coal being marketed for Asia's surging steel production needs at a time when the depreciation of the US dollar makes it attractive.

Efforts to build up coal inventories are being hindered as US railroads experience severe congestion, with demand for all commodities higher than expected. Coal inventories already are at historic lows, with coal-fired generation outpacing coal production. Some utilities report inventories of only about one month.

"Inventories will reach an all-time low by year-end 2004, potentially causing further volatility in spot prices," said Aneesh Prabhu, S&P credit analyst.

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Remember when our Café source told us months ago the Chinese have tied up huge coal supplies out of West Virginia and Alabama and were shipping them back to China?

GATA’s Mike Bolser:

Hi Bill:
The Federal Reserve added $13.25 Billion in repos today August 12th 2004, an action that took the pool up ton $43.769B.

The DOW's 30-day ma has slipped to a new low for the move and this is interesting and suggests that the Fed may not be as well off as they imagine. The relatively large add today hints at things to come and we will have conclusive evidence that the Fed is in trouble when they run the repo pool up over $50 Billion again.

Richard Russell keeps advising investors to obtain gold in metal form and so do I. Think not in terms of how many pieces of colored paper will buy an ounce but in how many ounces one can get and still meet one's other expenses. Inflation ravaged countries in Europe know this drill all-too-well. The day of reckoning is in the future so it makes little sense rushing to count gold "profits" in dollar terms. Accumulation is all that "counts".

Derivatives explosion or COMEX closure?

The interest rate derivatives held at JP Morgan top $29 Trillion in the latest quarter and much of that contract load is gold linked. The language stipulates that "a pricing mechanism must exist" in order for the contract to remain valid. This extremely odd language insertion attracted my attention when I first saw it and I asked...why is this here?

Well, the cynical view is the phrase is there as an escape clause after the authorities close the COMEX and other big gold markets under their control to precious metals trading. Until there's a better explanation, I'm sticking to this expectation so investors ought to beware of precious metals options and futures as an avenue to prosperity. Under such a scenario, metal itself will deliver its own very high leverage.

Philosophically, the Fed's goons would make sure, by design, that their arch enemies in the gold bug army made no profit when the price finally ran away. They would deliver a scorched earth.

D-Day

When... is the key question everyone wants to know, not if. The wild mutations in historical ratios such as oil/gold and gold/real interest rates have prompted even mainstreamers to comment of late. Something isn't right all-too-few of them say

By watching the Fed's every move using proprietary metrics, many of which have yet to be published, I attempt to guess where they are going. Right now the Fed has just changed from up to flat in the DIVG ma even as they are forced to keep M1 rising and suffer massive budget and trade deficits that are, by all assessments, out of control. They took from May 24th until this week to transition so they were not in too big a hurry as they gently added more and more selling pressure.

I don't think they can hold this for very long without some external event to cover their next move which needs to be designed to halt the need for gold sales. It could come in weeks or months...no one can say.

I do not believe that D-Day will bring the same kind of failure we experienced in 1979 because the Fed is dedicated to preventing just such an un coordinated retreat from ever happening. They often speak of how things are different today. Perhaps the biggest difference between 1979 and 2004 is that the Fed feels much better about bending economic truth and therefore has become a full adversary to those holding wealth. Don't waste your time listening to the Masters words...use his pieces of colored paper to obtain metal while you can.

DOW 11,750?

By Labor Day? It's all but a blown forecast but I'll concede defeat when the time comes. I'm guessing that the election has been conceded so the Fed may have chosen not to push things any harder. This DOW 11,750 defeat is one I'll gladly accept. BTW the democratic presidential contender took a slight lead in the Florida polls today and IF the hurricane does appreciable damage here, lightly motivated folks will be absorbed in rebuilding first and voting second.
Mike

PS I'm hunkering down for Charles (hurricane) so there won't be a repo update tomorrow.

The amazing Mahendra has done it again. He just recently called for a short-term sharp soybean rally. August beans closed up 50 ½ cents to $6.87 ½. Then, he recently called for the dollar to weaken, except against the South African Rand, which he said would weaken against the dollar. Sure enough, the SA Reserve Bank lowered interest rates today and the Rand weakened against the dollar, while the dollar fell against most other currencies. Now, if only we could get the Gold Cartel to shoot themselves in the foot so his gold prediction can pan out.

From Richard Russell last evening:

"But what ever happened to the long-promised gold ETFs? When it comes to gold and silver, the authorities will do everything they can to keep the precious metals out of the hands of the public. When you buy the not-yet approved gold ETC, you actually take an ounce of gold off the market, reducing supply. The authorities don't want that."

This is exactly what GATA said the US would do to this World Gold Council, New York Stock Exchange product years ago when it was first proposed. It will be two years behind schedule as of this fall. Once again GATA finds more anecdotal evidence of a coordinated mass conspiracy to denigrate gold and keep it out of the average American investor’s radar screen. Either that, or the World Gold Council is proving once again it is among the least effect industry organizations in history. The most likely reason for the delay is a combination of both reasons.

It is time for the gold producers in the WGC to withdraw their support and get behind a new organization to fight the gold price suppression scheme, a scheme which is destroying their profits and demoralizing their shareholders. If you are one of those disgusted shareholders, don’t just sit there, get on the phone and raise "Kane" with the CEO’s of your gold companies to do something about this nightmare. If you don’t make any effort to end this fraud, fine. Just sit there, complain, and stay miserable!

Robert Rubin’s Citigroup (a Gold Cartel honcho) has itself in some hot water in Europe due to alleged market shenanigans (what else is new).

FT

Citigroup coup stirs up emotions

Published: August 11 2004 05:00 |

The controversial trans-actions by Citigroup that have stunned the eurozone government bond market came at a challenging time for the fixed-income markets, provoking an unusually emotive response from many rival banks.

After a period of exceptionally low interest rates, which helped make fixed-income desks significant revenue generators for investment banks, the cost of borrowing has begun to rise.

Meanwhile, profit margins in the inter-dealer, or wholesale trading, of eurozone government bonds have dwindled as pricing in the maturing market has become more efficient.

This has been driven by a move to electronic and internet-based trading, which cut costs and incr-eases pricing transparency.

"Market-making has be-come very tough," said a trader at a European bank. "Five years ago, you could expect to make 4-5 cents [per Euro] on a €100m transaction in German Bunds. Now it's about 1 cent."

But unwelcome though they may be to rivals, large trades of this sort are probably here to stay. Citigroup's market coup reflects the growing power of a handful of leading banks in the capital market arena.

A combination of their large balance sheets with electronic technology and sophisticated financial modelling allows them to put together deals that leave lesser players gasping….

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Don’t think for a moment the hedge funds are cleaning up these days:

Benton's Andor Fund Assets Fell Almost 50% in July, People Say

Aug. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Dan Benton's Andor Capital Management LLC, the eighth-biggest hedge fund at the end of 2003, lost almost half its assets in July, people familiar with the New York- based fund said.

Assets in the fund, after 18 months of losses in its main Andor Technology Fund, fell 46 percent in July to $3.5 billion, the people said. Investor withdrawals of $1.5 billion led the decline as two of Andor's portfolio managers left and Andor decided to close the funds they ran, the people said.

At Andor's annual meeting in May at the New York Public Library, Benton asked investors to ``ride the technology wave'' with him. Computer and telecommunications shares plunged in the following two months, contributing to a 5.4 decline in net assets this year through July for Benton's $1.7 billion Andor Technology Fund.

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Modest gold supply increase:

China's gold output expected to hit 210 Gold output in the Chinese mainland is expected to reach 210 tons this year, according to an industry organization.

The figure will be up from 200.598 tons last year, said sources from the China Gold Association.

***

To give you some idea of how insignificant this increase is, compare it to Turkey importing a record 30 tonnes in just one month.

Forked tongue stuff:

Bill,
I know I'm a broken record on this, but once again, the feds are lying about the deficit. From the Treasury Department's Bureau of the Public Debt web page at http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm I get the following numbers:

Date

Debt Held by
the Public

Intragovernmental
Holdings

Total

07/30/2004

4,267,913,389,239.04

3,048,654,181,993.85

7,316,567,571,232.89

09/30/2003

3,924,090,106,880.88

2,859,140,955,862.74

6,783,231,062,743.62

subtracting, we get:

10 months

343,823,282,358.16

189,513,226,131.11

533,336,508,489.27

$533.34B is not $395.78B. Where do they get their numbers, and why don't they use the ones on their own web site?

$533.3 B / 10 = $53.33B average monthly deficit.

2 more months at that rate adds over $106B more.

That projects the fiscal 2004 deficit to around $639B.

This is the amount they pay interest on. It is the real FY2004 deficit.

The $343.82B increase in the debt held by the public (mostly the bond market) is close to the announced $395.78B, so I am assuming they are using that, with some unknown fudge factor, possibly excess Medicare receipts. The $189.51B increase in Intragovernmental Holdings represents the various federal pension fund receipts in excess of the amount needed to pay current benefits. Mostly this is Social Security. Their web site explains it all in detail.

They seem to be implying that they don't really owe the Social Security trust fund the money they borrow from it, they simply use it as a cash cow, knowing that some day they'll simply renege on it. What other explanation could there be for not including it in the deficit? On the other hand, they can't play those games with the debt, since by law it is defined as anything they borrow that they must pay interest on. That's why periodically, when they must raise the debt ceiling, they borrow from other internal accounts while the bill works it's way through Congress, and the numbers posted at the above web site virtually freeze until the bill passes. They don't pay interest to those other internal accounts, and so can get around the law that way until they run out of those sources.

If I were in charge, I'd change the law to require the excess SS funds be invested in hard money, money that can't be reneged on. I think you know which money I'm refering to. And I'd start selling those treasuries and use the proceeds to buy more of the same. I know, fat chance.

Oh what a sight it will be to see the printing presses in high gear in 2020.
Best regards.
Ed Peters

This is a bit scary and food for thought:

Forward Planning: Two Years (or less) to $125 Oil

http://www.urbansurvival.com

Oh, this is a for sure bummer: An Iranian oil expert makes the call at http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/stories/s1172992.htm You can do the math, right? $45 goes into $125 2.77 times and with gas at $2.00 now, that would project $5.54 gasoline within 2-years.

You need not be a genius to figure out that we are quickly coming to a major bifurcation point where the future will be wildly inflationary due to soaring oil - when we get three times the oil price, we get a kick of inflation that may exceed even the 1980's. On the other hand, oil prices could actually fall but that would imply a collapse of demand. As your people's economist I won't forecast which way things will break, but you see the point, right? Consumption can never outpace supply so if Peak Oil is here, stand by for the age of falling standards of living.

No doubt, the soaring oil price figured into the Fed decision to raise rates yesterday. You see, it makes no difference to the government right now whether employment falls later on this year. Their immediate problem is to keep the string of carry trades intact, and thus keep the U.S. dollar firm enough so that it won't take much more than $45 a barrel to buy oil: http://business.scotsman.com/economy.cfm?id=923342004 The reality is that if the U.S. dollar falls, the price of oil denominated in dollars will quickly head much higher - and that would have a disastrous impact on what's left of the U.S. economy. It would make the oil shocks of '73 and '75-76 look like child's play.

We can only hope that folks over at the Fed are reading the news in serious financial media - there is, it's coming out as we forecast, nothing transitory about oil prices. See Forbes article at http://www.forbes.com/business…2004/08/11/ap1499798.html That Sir Alan and the crew would have been so foolish as to think that oil prices would be transitory has prompted us to add yet another word to our New Economic Reality Dictionary:…

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Russ Winter is very sharp, a copper update:
The following Copper analysis from Russ Winter at

http://www.siliconinvestor.com…lk/msg.gsp?msgid=20402240

All questions I have pondered. Let's just take copper, because that's the most obvious and the one I'm playing actively.
Backdrop: We have about 14 million MT consumed a year right now. We saw a 0.2% drop in production (let's just call it flat) in the 2nd quarter despite a $1.25 price. If we used Comex, LME and Shanghai inventories for draw down we can closely construct the supply-demand set-up for this market. Since production (supply) is flat we could probably give consideration to utilizing this to diagnose the global economy, they don't call it Dr. Copper for nothing. Maybe a little simplistic, but I think a good exercise. From my daily index card.
May: inventory drawdown was about 78,000 MT: copper deficit is 936,000 annualized, or 6.7% of global demand.
June: inventory drawdown was 72,000 MT; deficit 72,000, 864,000, 6.2% of global demand. Could it be argued that the world economy contracted 0.5% from May to June? I think so.
July: drawdown is 55,000 MT, deficit is 660,000 annualized, 4.7% of global demand.
August: 8 days showing about the same drawdown rate as July.
Did the world economy contract 1.5% in July? That may be overstating it, but I'd still guess July was quite a contraction. Probably July saw the arrival of disrupted Grasberg supply, so that accounts for about half the down shift. I'd say 0.8% is my July-August SWAG. So I'll SWAG global GDP having contracted by 1 1/4% annualized from May to August.
Sure that might give the market "pause", but now let's examine what's required to prevent the remaining 180,000 MT in LME, Comex, and Shanghai inventory from going to goose eggs. The July-August "economic contraction" draw rate is currently about 2600 a day, or 650,000 MT annualized. That's a bit over three months to get to zero. So if the world GDP contracted another 1% immediately, you would get about a 500,000 MT deficit. In otherwords to get the copper market back into equilibrium Dr. Copper (the economy) would have to contract by over 4% (a depression by any measure) from August.
Could that be about to happen? Possibly, but I think you will see price rationing of the last 180,000 MT of inventory first. At any rate your first clue will be in the drawdown rate (spread out over a month or so). Remember there is no meaningful new supply, so if drawdown suddenly dropped to 35,000 a month, that might suggest a another serious economic deceleration was underway, 1.7% by my math.
But let's just take a worse case, we are in mid-Sept, and the draw down has slowed to a 420,000 MT annualized deficit (1750 MT a day), and the global GDP is in deep retreat. We are now down to about 135,000 MT left in inventory. That's nearly four months to zero, a little better calendar wise, but worse in relative numbers. If you are a copper consumer (say China), aren't you going to be getting damn nervous, weak economy or not? And how about those hedge funds, wouldn't they be tempted to start a run, weak economy or not?
Then just carry out this exercise on through. Conclusion: a severe depression (6% drop from last spring) will bring the copper market back into equilibrium at extremely low inventory levels. I think there will be a depression from this, but caused by price spikes from severe shortages, probably in both energy and metals, and in time even food (a subsistence item). New supply you say? That's several years away, and I don't see anybody whatsoever in a hurry to deal with that solution, do you? HUGO trades at 3.88 today, NTO at 1.96. They have two of the best undeveloped deposits in the world, and nobody seems lined up for them, at least today.
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On this tumultuous day for most of the financial markets and on one of the most blatant gold rigging days of all time, the following emails from Café members might help to put the big picture in focus:

Bill:
I've been thinking about the emails you're getting such as "Can we then really say that the cartel is on its last legs? To my perception, they seem to have complete control, at least for now."

Bill, my take on the current situation is just the opposite. This is one hell of a complicated Chess game and I do not doubt that the bad guys are smart, ruthless and perhaps desperate, but they are not omnipotent, nor do they have complete control. I think they truly are cornered. The interest rate rise is the last thing they wanted right now. But it was that or a Dollar collapse. It was a move FORCED on them by the market.

Just think: There is less than ONE OUNCE of Gold per person on this planet. After 5000 years of mining!!! Each month the US Trade deficit is $45+ Billion. If that had to be settled in Gold (as it was under the Gold standard) the US would have to ship 3000+ tonnes to its trading partners.

Instead this deficit is settled in paper promises, aka Federal Reserve Notes or Treasury Paper. Think of it as a gigantic game of musical chairs. Each month the US issues 45 Billion new tickets to the game without increasing the number of chairs.

The market knows this. So they probe for weakness. They are rebuffed and withdraw. They probe again, testing the Fed's resolve. So far this year, we've seen the Japanese save the Dollar, then the Chinese slowdown story saved the Dollar, then the Fed promised to raise rates to save the Dollar, then they actually had to do it twice. But these rate rises have real consequences, some obvious (like housing) others not so obvious but which we assume must be dramatic (like the interest rate derivatives).

American power has many sources both economic and military but the most efficient instrument of that power is the US Dollar. For decades the American government has abused that power, allowing its citizens to live beyond their means. The strength of the Dollar is an illusion. American control over other nations depends on the continued belief that the Dollar is Money. It is the Fed's job to keep that illusion alive so that 45 billion new tickets can be absorbed each month.

For those of us who understand this, it becomes obvious that we must secure a chair before the music stops. How close is that day? I certainly don't know but yesterday the October gold price closed only 10c above the Spot price. This is ominous. As Antal Fekete argues:

"Backwardation in gold has a perverse effect. In the case of agricultural commodities backwardation provides a most powerful incentive for traders to sell the cash commodity and buy the futures. Not so in the case of gold. Rather than bringing out deliverable supplies of gold, backwardation tends to remove them. The more the gold basis falls the less likely it becomes that owners will exchange their cash gold for futures. Please remember that you have seen it here first. This perversion of the gold basis constitutes the self-destroying mechanism of the regime of irredeemable currency. The longs tend to take delivery on their gold futures contracts in ever greater numbers, and refuse to recycle cash gold into futures, regardless how low the gold basis may go. As it is not set up to satisfy demand for delivery on 100 percent of the open interest, the gold futures market will default. Exchange officials will declare a "liquidation only" policy to offset long positions in gold. At that point all offers to sell cash gold will be withdrawn. Gold is not for sale at any price. The shorts are absolved of their failure to deliver on their gold futures contracts."

The Gold price is down less that 8% from its high, yet somehow many gold bugs have been convinced that the bull market is over. This is the power of the Illusion the Fed feeds us. Don't listen. Trust Gold.
Cheers from Auckland, Ed

Dear Bill, You may post this if you choose. I was around in the 1970s playing the gold and silver markets. Made some money but was self taught and got out mid 79 and left some on the table. This time around I started buying back in 1996 quite early. Lost some money but kept buying. Signed up with Lemetropole after you were about three months old. In 2000 we placed $ 300,000.00 more in the market and kept buying as was feasible. By 2003 with about$300,000.00 more invested. We took profits in November 2003of 1.55 mill

And still have our original money in the market. We paid off the mortgage on our Holiday Inn and buying with all available funds back into the market. I am a few years older now, but still think I have time to beat these bums. But I if don’t my son sure as hell does. I would like thank you personally. We could not have done it with out you. So we have beaten them, and were going in for the kill. Can’t stop these boys’ come hell or high water. Don’t get discourage just keep buying. We will nail these bums. You have given a great service to mankind and I want thank you personally. TKT

Great commentary Bill, as always. Knowing the facts makes it easier to deal with the absurdities in today's markets. I have been accumulating gold shares since 2001, taking profits along the way but always re-investing the proceeds. "Be prepared" is what I was always told, and thus I am preparing. Thanks to people like you and your efforts, the truth, one day, will be for all to see and those who listened early on will be safe with their
financial futures. Thank you for your hard work.

Dana D
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

GATA press:

Gold bugs waiting for price jump

By Jonathan Wegner
Omaha World-Herald
Wednesday, August 11, 1004

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=46&u_sid=1171763
Since gold prices bottomed in 2001, the shiny metal has held steadily above $300 per ounce, no thanks to the Federal Reserve System, says Bill Murphy, chairman of the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee.

"We're looking for the price to more than double where it is, easily. The only reason the price is here is because the gold cartel has suppressed the price for the last seven or eight years. It's very complicated," said Murphy, a former professional football player and commodities broker from Dallas.

You probably haven't heard of the gold cartel, and the whole idea has been debunked thoroughly by economists and other experts. Yet some gold bugs hold fast to such conspiracy theories.

Murphy believes the Federal Reserve and major investment banks such as J.P. Morgan and Goldman Sachs secretly sell their reserves into the market to depress gold prices.

The Federal Reserve and other central banks alone, he contends, have sold half their 32,000 tons in gold reserves. Murphy has invested his entire net worth -- more than $1 million -- on the premise that when the Fed goes to buy it back, it'll have to pay substantially higher prices.

"Hold prices are going to go bananas because the people suppressing the price will run out of gold to maintain the price cap operation," he said "All of a sudden, it's like every other scandal. It has ramifications for the financial markets. It could be another Enron."

Murphy knows it sounds slightly wild, but then people thought you were crazy if you thought Enron might collapse, he said.

To publicize this to the world, he organized a world summit meeting in Durban, South Africa, to draw attention to the problem. Though it wasn't well-attended, it was a start, he said. "We had five nations attend, mostly the gold producers and the mining unions."

Creighton University economist Ernie Goss said it all sounds like something from late-night AM radio.

"That just doesn't make sense. I do an economic round table with the Fed once a year in Kansas City and I've never heard this one. They try to be transparent. The goal is price stability, and that's not the price of gold."

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As long as they are talking about GATA and the rig. The mainstream dismissal of what we have discovered is par for the course. NONE of these people have looked at any of our evidence. Their retorts are both mundane and of a noodle brain mentality. A Goss is the same kind of person who pooh-poohed the notion Enron was a fraud. After all Enron was lauded by Forbes and Forbes year after year and Ken Lay was buddies with President Bush. Because the Fed doesn’t discuss gold in its conference’s, gullible Goss says gold manipulation does not exist because the Fed is transparent. How naïve can you get? He and his ilk sound like kindergartners trying to explain to their daddies how the world works.

This is why the general American investor is in such trouble. These are the types they look up to for some straight talk. Good grief!
Some pictures of the Omaha story:

Nick Ferris, CEO of J-Pacific Gold, is excited about his company’s latest exploration program. Yesterday, J-Pacific announced the results from the late spring drill program at their Elizabeth Project in south-central British Columbia. The exploration drilling returned strong gold values and attractive widths from the "Southwest Zone" and indications of significant porphyry copper mineralization from the "No. 9 Zone."

Yesterday, J-Pacific announced the results from the late spring drill program at their Elizabeth Project in south-central British Columbia. The exploration drilling returned strong gold values and attractive widths from the "Southwest Zone" and indications of significant porphyry copper mineralization from the "No. 9 Zone."These results come from drilling that tested the new gold and copper discoveries from these zones in 2003….

The Elizabeth Gold Project, consists of 10,995 acres of owned and optioned crown grants and mineral claims and is located 130 miles north of Vancouver and just 18 miles south southwest of the permitted mill at the J-Pacific owned Blackdome Gold Mine. The project is located in what could be described as "Elephant Country" as it is just eight miles south southeast of the Poison Mountain porphyry copper deposit (discovered in 1956) and 18 miles north northeast of the historic gold mining town of Bralorne, where over four million ounces of gold have been produced, making it the largest gold producing camp in British Columbia's history. Given its close proximity to the permitted gold mill at J-Pacific's Blackdome Gold Mine, the Elizabeth Project could be complimentary to development plans for the district and specifically to any future production using the Blackdome milling facility. J-Pacific is one of the largest claim holder in British Columbia with its activities concentrated on the Blackdome/Bralorne liniment.

The J-Pacific Gold (55 cents Cdn. up a penny) press release can be read in toto at:

http://new.stockwatch.com/swne…s+Elizabeth+drill+program

Nat gas shortages, oil shortages, coal shortages and probably copper shortages ahead. It is possible both J-Pacific and Samex, two of my favorite exploration companies, have copper discoveries. Just a heads-up.

The gold shares bucked the general trend today and closed on or near their highs with the South Africans firmer due to the softening rand. The XAU gained .74 to 85.64 and the HUI rose 3.55 to 185.13.

The HUI needs to take out the 190 area to conclusively take out its well established downtrend:

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.c…&o_symb=hui&freq=1&time=8

As it ought to be, the huge shorts in Golden Star Resources have begun to cover. It closed at $3.99 up 29 cents.

While today’s blatant price rigging was infuriating, the signs of the times say The Gold Cartel is in deep trouble as outside market forces are collectively going against them. We are a serious day closer to getting out the GATA stretchers.

The gold and silver shares remain THE historic investment opportunity of a lifetime!

GATA BE IN IT TO WIN IT!

MIDAS

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Aus der FTD vom 13.8.2004
Portfolio: Das Gold des kleinen Mannes
Von Horst Fugger

Bei keinem anderen Metall gehen die Meinungen der Investoren so stark auseinander wie beim Silber. Die wenigen börsennotierten Silberminen, in die der Einstieg lohnt, sind extrem volatil.

Es war fast wie zu Zeiten des Neuen Marktes, nur passierte das Ganze im Zeitraffer: Von Ende 2003 bis März 2004 stieg der Silberpreis um gut 60 Prozent, die wenigen börsennotierten Silberminen gewannen sogar noch erheblich mehr. Im April war der Spuk vorbei, und der Metallpreis fiel fast wieder auf das Ausgangsniveau zurück. Wohl dem, der früh genug verkauft hatte.

Nach jahrelangem Tiefschlaf war der Silbermarkt wieder als das entdeckt worden, was er in den späten 70er und frühen 80er Jahren schon einmal war: eine Spielwiese für Spekulanten und eine böse Falle für all diejenigen, die auf Fundamentaldaten vertrauten.

Widersprüchliche Interpretationen möglich

Nun verhält es sich in diesem traditionell sehr engen Segment des Rohstoff- und des Aktienmarkts ohnehin so, dass die verfügbaren fundamentalen Daten durchaus widersprüchliche Interpretationen zulassen. So argumentieren die Pessimisten seit Jahren, der Rückgang der konventionellen Fotografie mit Rollfilmen werde den Silberverbrauch und damit auch die Nachfrage langfristig verringern. Doch dieses Argument zieht wohl nicht, denn in der traditionellen Fotografie liegt die Silber-Recyclingquote bei der Film- und Bildentwicklung bei etwa 90 Prozent. Zudem gibt es inzwischen Hinweise darauf, dass die Silbernachfrage aus der Fotoindustrie sogar steigen könnte, weil digitale Aufnahmen großformatig auf Papier gebannt werden. Und dieses Papier ist so silberhaltig wie eh und je.

Wer sich für Silberinvestments interessiert, muss sich vor allem der Tatsache bewusst sein, dass es sich hierbei weniger um ein Edelmetall als um einen industriellen Rohstoff handelt. Dies ist vor allem deshalb wichtig, weil es nicht an Gurus und - sagen wir es offen: Scharlatanen mangelt, die Papiergeld grundsätzlich misstrauen und von der früher üblichen Golddeckung oder Silberdeckung nationaler Währungen träumen.

Nebenprodukt der Rohstoffgewinnung

Diese Zeiten sind vorbei, und es erscheint wesentlich vernünftiger, sich auf bestehende und mögliche industrielle Anwendungen des Rohstoffs Silber zu konzentrieren. Man darf dabei nicht vergessen, dass gut 70 Prozent der jährlichen weltweiten Silberproduktion nicht von ausgewiesenen Silberminen kommen, sondern als Nebenprodukt bei der Förderung von Gold und von Industriemetallen wie Kupfer, Nickel, Zink oder auch Blei anfallen.

Ganz anders als zum Beispiel im Goldsektor ergibt sich daher die ein wenig kuriose Situation, dass für einige der größten Silberproduzenten der Welt - etwa die Rohstoffkonzerne Rio Tinto, Anglo American, BHP Billiton oder Noranda - der Silberpreis kaum eine Rolle spielt. Wer am Aktienmarkt auf steigende Silberpreise setzen möchte, muss daher mindestens eine Liga tiefer einsteigen und sich der Tatsache bewusst sein, dass die wenigen börsennotierten Silberminen, denen man Investmentqualität zubilligen kann, extrem volatil sind.

Als klassische Silberminen gelten Hecla Mining und Coeur d’Alene aus den USA, die beide auch in Deutschland börsennotiert sind. Beide Unternehmen sind im "Silver Valley" des US-Bundesstaats Idaho eng benachbart und erwecken schon deswegen Vertrauen, weil es sie bereits seit über 100 Jahren gibt. Wer am Aktienmarkt auf Silber setzen will, ist daher mit diesen beiden Aktien gut bedient.

http://www.ftd.de/bm/ga/1092171050811.html?nv=hpm

Zitat

Wer sich für Silberinvestments interessiert, muss sich vor allem der Tatsache bewusst sein, dass es sich hierbei weniger um ein Edelmetall als um einen industriellen Rohstoff handelt. Dies ist vor allem deshalb wichtig, weil es nicht an Gurus und - sagen wir es offen: Scharlatanen mangelt, die Papiergeld grundsätzlich misstrauen und von der früher üblichen Golddeckung oder Silberdeckung nationaler Währungen träumen

Toll, einfach genial! Da haben wir`s: Silber ist kein Geld, sondern ein Rohstoff. Aber Papier ist Geld, und kein Rohstoff (sofern schön bunt bedruckt und von irgendeinem Hampelmann von Bankpräsidenten unterschrieben).

Und die die Silber- (und Gold-) Gurus sind Scharlatane, weil sie davon träumen, daß das Papier- und Digitalgeld durch etwas gedeckt sein soll.

Wie sagte mal ein Freund von mir (sorry für die Ausdrucksweise): "Wenn ich am Zeitschriftenkiosk in der Finanzecke stehe, sehe ich dort nur Börse-Online, Capital, FTD und Konsorten, alles Wichsvorlagen für die Papiergeld-Fetischisten..."

Na, bei dem tollen Artikel von H. Fugger geht bestimmt reihenweise einer ab...

Schuldenblase,

muss Dir zustimmen - der von Dir erwähnte Absatz ist m.E. Desinformation pur! Aber Horst Fugger war schon immer ziemlich papiergeldfreundlich und hatte noch nie allzu viel übrig für Leute, welche mehr den Edelmetallen vertrauen. Dass er sie jetzt aber sogar als Scharlatane bezeichnet ist dann schon starker Tobak...
Aber es ist wohl wie bei Niquet - man will sich profilieren und gleichzeitig etwas provozieren - die "Gold-" und insbesondere die "Silberbugs" stellen ja noch eine Minderheit dar, da muss man nicht um die Auflage fürchten deswegen...

Ich habe übrigens mal in einem Forum mit H.F. diskutiert (seinerzeit, als das Forum bei "antizyklik.de" noch öffentlich war), als Gold noch bei wenig mehr als 300$/Unze notierte. Schon da bezeichnete er Gold als unterdurchschnittliches Investment und Goldminen als "momentan zu teuer". Wohlgemerkt, zwischenzeitlich haben sich einige Minen im Kurs verdoppelt und mehr... Auf meine Frage hin, ob er sich denn nicht höhere Goldpreise vorstellen könne, sagte er "höchstens kurze Zeit bis so 400$/Oz oder so...", aber es würden dann sofort neue Minen in Betrieb genommen, wodurch der Goldpreis rasch wieder sinke...
Meinen Einwand, dass die Inbetriebnahme neuer Minen ohne weiteres einige Jahre in Anspruch nehmen könne, liess er nicht gelten, oder er ging gar nicht darauf ein... (da das öffentliche Forum geschlossen wurde, ist es leider nicht mehr möglich, die diversen Statements 1:1 zu übernehmen, ich kann deswegen nur aus dem Gedächtnis repetieren und das natürlich ohne Gewähr).
Das Gold und Silber das bessere Geld seien, da war er sowieso nicht einverstanden. Offensichtlich ist H.F.'s Vertrauen in Papiergeld (fast?) grenzenlos, Wir werden sehen, ob er langfristig damit richtig liegt... oder doch eher die "Gurus und Scharlatane", welche zu den Edelmetallen und insbesondere zu Silber raten.

August 13 - Gold $398.60 up $4.70 – Silver $6.60 up 7 cents

Gold/Silver Poised To Pop Next Week

"The dollar will be wiped out."- Dr. Franz Pick

A year ago if you had said oil would have taken out $46 per barrel, US interest rates were only 1 ½%, and the US trade deficit would blow out to $55 billion, most market observers certainly could have easily envisioned $500 gold – which it certainly should be at the moment. Instead, the manipulators are going all out to keep gold below $400. They just go on and on and on.

The dollar was hit hard when the stunning deficit news was released, however, gold struggled and really didn’t get moving until a disappointing consumer confidence number hit the tape. Yet, as always, after gold popped early, that was it. NO MAS. Very tedious.

The gold open interest rose a measly 17 contracts to 218,178.

As expected the commercials reduced their longs by 2,679 and increased their shorts by 11,953, according to the COT report. The Gold Cartel and friends have been capping gold above $400 and then buying the dips when the funds sell out below $390 to $395.

The Café sources on the gold floor have turned bullish. They see the specs more inclined to sell than buy, which they construe as bullish. Talk on the floor also is focusing on gold’s failure to rise with the oil price soaring. They are inquiring what is wrong. HELLO!

With all the collateral market gold bullishness this week, gold fell more than $1 when all was said and done. The good news is the base is built up even further – one which can propel gold sharply higher:

http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/84

The gold sentiment remains moribund. There is little relative interest in the Café, speculating on the Comex and in the shares. A highly regarded money manager in Europe told me that raising new funds these days is very hard to do. Rarely is the precious metals sentiment this low for this long a period of time. It tells me that this is setting up a giant move to the upside.

Silver continues to perform well relative to gold and seems poised to take off at any time. Its open interest fell 582 contracts to 95,094.

The silver warehouse stocks fell another 199,039 ounces to 110,217,114.

Crude only closed at $46.58 per barrel, up another $1.08. Who knows what it could do next week? If there are any more disruptions in the Middle East due to sabotage, we will see $50 oil in heartbeat.

Bonds drew a bid, closing at 111 9/32, up 17/32.

The dollar fell against all major currencies and finished the day at 88.05, down .75. The euro gained 1.05 to 123.59.

The CRB seems to be breaking out after hold support in the 265 area for months. The CRB weekly:

http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/RB/W

Had two interesting conversations this morning – one with my seer friend Mahendra, the other with Frank Veneroso. Both were very excited – about different notions.

Mahendra, who recently predicted copper would take a run to the upside, and it did, rising a sharp cents today to 5.10 cents to $1.3210. He settling in to his new abode in Santa Barbara. What a contrast for he and his family from Nairobi. If you are a gold and silver bull, you will like what he has to say. It goes something like this:

*Gold and silver are about to take off and go bonkers after September 4th. To be specific:

* "The most important thing is that Gold is going to rise after 4 September 2004 and there is no power on this earth that can forestall that rise."
*The train will leave the station next week.
*The gold and silver move will be like a once in a lifetime 50-year rain
*It is unbelievable what is in store for gold and silver.
*For those heavily long it will be like the miner who has been digging and digging for yeas to make a discovery and he FINALLY does.

I think I will relax this weekend with those thoughts. What could I add that is more fun than that?

Oh yes, one more thing. Mahendra is very bearish, as you know, on the US stock market. Sees a 500 point down day coming. And when it comes, it will change investment thinking for many years to come.

Frank’s thinking is sobering too, that is if you are long the general market. He seeseconomic slowdowns all over the world, including China. "They have put on the breaks in China," Frank says. "Growth has stopped." He doesn’t like what he sees as far as the US stock market is concerned as a result, and hasn’t for some time.

Along those lines Frank also thinks copper could be in for a big fall. While the Comex warehouse stocks have been depleted, he sees them building elsewhere. Worse, with economic slowdowns on the horizon, copper production is going to rise 11% next year and then again the year after that. If this plays out, Frank says fall all the way back close to 60 cents.

The John Brimelow Report

No one wants play

Friday, August 13, 2004

Indian ex-duty premiums: AM $7.64, PM $5.87, with world gold at $393.90 and $393. Lavish, and adequate for legal imports. The rupee weakened in the afternoon. Indian auto sales in July were reported to be 18.1 % above the previous year. Financial year to date (post 3/31) sales are up 20.5%. India continues to prosper and this augers well for gold purchasing.

TOCOM responded sluggishly to gold’s fall in NY yesterday. Volume did rise 38% to a miserable 12,592 Comex equivalent, but open interest rose only 8 yen and world gold lost further ground, going out 65c below the NY close. Open interest did edge up, by the equivalent of 822 Comex lots. Once again, the Japanese speculative interest is focused on platinum, which traded 80% more than gold by value and hit a 3 1/2 month high. (NY yesterday traded 33,192 contracts. Open interest rose a whole 19 contracts.)

Despite dramatically positive macro news over the last two days, Oil, the US$, Trade deficit, anxiety over stocks – the speculative community is thoroughly cowed. Very light selling has been enough to contain the metal below sensitive moving averages.

JB

CARTEL CAPITULATION WATCH

Man, this PPT/Gold Cartel is one sad sack group. Clearly, the mission today was to keep gold below $400 and the DOW above 9800. Not even oil on its way to $47 per barrel, the Japanese stock market falling 271 to 10,787 and a potentially devastating hurricane in Florida was going to deter these market manipulators. The DOW took out 9800 late in the day, going down 30+ points, but then turned right around to close at 9825, up 11. The DOG moved up 5 to 1757.

Bombshell:

08:30 June Trade deficit reported $55.8B vs. consensus $47B
Prior deficit report revised to $46.9B from prior $46B.
* * * * *

Nothing in this one:

08:30 July PPI reported 0.1% vs. consensus 0.3%; ex-Food & Energy 0.1% vs. consensus 0.1%
June PPI unrevised from prior (0.3%); ex-Food & Energy unrevised from 0.2%.
* * * * *
Disappointing:

09:47 August Univ. of Michigan Confidence (prelim.) reported 94 vs. consensus 97.2
Final July reading was 96.7.
* * * * *

NEW YORK, Aug 13 (Reuters) - U.S. consumer confidence deteriorated in early August, reversing July's increases, as expectations for the economy worsened, according to sources who saw a survey on Friday.

The University of Michigan's index of consumer sentiment fell to 94.0 in early August from 96.7 at the end of July, said market sources who saw the subscription-only report. Economists polled by Reuters had expected the index to rise to 97.50.

The current conditions component rose to 108.4 from 105.2 in July, but the expectations index dropped to 84.7 from 91.2 previously. –END-

Greenspan and Snow think alike:
BOCA RATON, Fla. Aug 13 (Reuters) - U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow on Friday predicated the slow pace of U.S. job growth seen in July will prove temporary, and said the economy remained poised for stronger growth.

"I believe the recent mild deceleration in job creation will be short-lived," Snow said in prepared remarks for delivery to a group of small-business leaders at a pharmaceuticals company.

"The underlying fundamentals of our economy are very strong. We've seen that tax cuts work and that job creation does follow economic growth," Snow added. –END-

Hard to imagine oil dips lasting too long with this going on:

China crude import growth holds strong at 40 pct
Friday August 13, 7:50 am ET

story: http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040813/energy_china_imports_2.html

BEIJING, Aug 13 (Reuters) - Chinese crude imports, up 40 percent so far this year, show no sign of slowing despite high oil prices and government efforts to calm economic growth, latest monthly import data showed on Friday.
China, the world's second-largest oil consumer after the United States, imported 70.63 million tonnes or 2.49 million barrels per day of crude in the seven months to end-July, 39.5 percent above the same period of 2003, the official Xinhua news agency said on Friday.......-END-

GATA’s Mike Bolser:

Hi Bill:
I'm between tree lashing tasks this morning but have a few minutes to update things a bit. The Fed added $7.25 Billion in temps and this caused the repo pool to stay at $43.769 Billion.

Examining the pool's 30-day ma we see it beginning to round off in a kind of topping pattern even as the DOW's own 30-day ma leaks downward. The Fed doesn't act as if they care to much about the DOW but we DO see them all over the bond market and currency area...no weakness there at all.

DIVG

The 200-day ma DIVG's shows a very small up-tick but we shouldn't take this as a change just yet. More likely, it represents an oscillation pattern where it will move above then below the 343 ceiling. The apparent pattern, although very early, may represent a much tighter oscillation than we saw the Fed implement in 2003.

Such a tight ceiling in the DIVG is a kind of synthetic gold standard and the Fed chairman has said so in recent Hill testimony. Never mind that $400 per ounce is woefully inadequate to compensate miners and savvy investors know that a strategy like this is doomed to fail under inevitably rising physical demand. It is physical where the true leverage in precious metals lies.
Mike

More from Mike on oil:

Hi Bill:
With today's IPE Brent surge over $43 per bbl and the MCDI's mini swoon, oil has broken a four-year record at DIVO = 37.25. Doubtless this development can't be good news for the Fed's riggers as they are battered by absurd trade deficits.

Japan may not mind as they keep taking US treasuries, but others may begin balking at further acceptance of effectively diluted dollars.

The DIVO metric may be even more important than gold in judging the Fed's stress and eventual breaking point. Right now they are in a real bind.
Mike

Café member Robert Blumen has written an article called Debt and Delusion and can be read at:

http://www.mises.org/fullstory.aspx?control=1579

Should not what is good for the goose be good for the gander too?

U.S. Complains to Russia About Its Handling of YUKOS

Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:54 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration has complained to Russia about Moscow's clampdown on Russian oil major YUKOS and its driving effect on oil prices, U.S. officials said on Thursday. .... –END-

Didn't I read somewhere that a Russian central banker was concerned about the U.S. intervention/manipulation in the gold market? Isn't this the 'pot calling the kettle black?' Simply amazing isn't it?
Rob

Some thoughts from fellow Café members:

Dear Bill,
There has been so much negative gold sentiment lately. I feel compelled to offer another view.

Absent a severe down turn in the dollar, gold and silver will only move once enough derivative losses are inflicted on the banksters in other markets. Looking at the option activity in the DJX, NDX, and OEX, it appears that big players are trying to buy
this market higher. There is only one slight problem for them. It isn't working. As you know, the Dow and Nasdaq closed near its lows. The net new 52 week high-low figure has slowly trended downward on the NYSE and on the Nasdog. The stock market has topped and we are going significantly lower.

The manipulators are also in big trouble in the oil market. The action yesterday was almost comical. I believe many of the manipulators are so arrogant they think they can move any market whenever they want to. The law of supply and demand is going to teach these
people a lesson.

In the currency market, the WSJ reported that option volatility is at a 52 week low. This tells me we are on the verge of a big move in the dollar. Due to numerous factors that you have pointed out, I believe the big move in the dollar is down.

To sum up. I believe that we are now in the driver's seat. Over the coming weeks, the derivative losses
sustained by the manipulators will be horrendous in the stock, oil, and currency markets. As they get pummeled in these markets, gold and silver WILL rise to much higher levels.
Sincerely,
Paul Yusem

Dear Bill ....
Just wanted to drop you a quick line to thank you for the wonderful enlightenment I have received from the work you do through GATA and your website. It has been about six years now that I have liquidated my mutual funds to buy unhedged gold stocks. In spite of recent lackluster action in the precious metals arena; my portfolio remains well in excess of four times my initial capital investment. For the most part, the conviction required to make that move was found as a result of your Midas commentaries.
Recently you have been lamenting the poor traffic to lemetropole as well as investor indifference to the PM markets at this time. There is no doubt that the manipulators have played their cards to maximum effect not only undercutting the price but demoralizing investors as well. This in spite of very bullish fundamentals for gold and silver. Letters you published recently clearly illustrate the despair many investors now feel.

I suppose I should feel the same way but I don't. Instead of looking for an exit , I've left the frying pan for a prominent place in the fire . Late last month I finally opened my shop in which I am trading gold and silver. In the past it was merely investment capital at risk.

Now my entire life savings are on the line. The time is at hand in which you will be vindicated for encouraging folks to take a position in precious metals. For now the artificially low prices are a gift for those who already haven't diversified out of paper assets. The longer the "cabal" can maintain this, the more gold and silver folks can accumulate at these ridiculous low prices . In spite of the harm to equities and producing regions ; these low prices are a very temporary gift and there is a saying about looking in the mouth of gift horses....

Something that I found most curious about silver. When silver was sub $5.00 last year, it has never been cheaper in all of recorded history in terms of buying power. There are plenty of references to the cost of goods in ancient Greece , Rome and Asia in terms of various silver coinages . Silver now has far more uses , some of which are vital and not cheaply substituted and yet it commands very little buying power.
While it is is true that silver remains available, the cost of obtaining physical through the charter banks in Canada has risen disproportionately. Service charges are up by over .50 per oz on 100 oz bars and considerably more on smaller units. The typical premium on gold maple leafs is well over fifty dollars over spot. It is probably easy for the banks to switch potential physical buyers into paper on those sort of premiums.

I see that I am rambling and there is one more important thing I wanted to share with you. During the winter I provided you some info regarding a large silver purchase by a European fund. I still don't know who they are or for whom they were buying, if not for themselves. In spite of the bear raid on the Comex in March, my source remains very bullish and continues to buy silver as though his house is on fire and only 100 oz bars will put it out. I suspect we will be hearing more about this in the not too distant future.
Sincerely ....Jack Fortin (Jaxville Gold and Silver Trading)

Jack has set up shop in Red Deer , Alberta. His temporary web site:

http://www.jaxville.com/

Gold vs. Silver

Gold is not a commodity. It is not consumed. The ability to increase the absolute supply above ground is quite limited. A lot of gold is still held by governments as a reserve.

As confidence in fiat currency goes down, the price of gold in fiat currency goes up. Therefore, governments that issue fiat currency have a strong incentive to control the price of gold, and they have been doing just that.

Silver is 80% commodity and 20% currency. Most of the silver ever mined has been consumed. The amount of silver above ground could be doubled in a few years, not so gold.

Since silver is 20% currency, and as such, competes with fiat currencies. Governments that issue fiat currencies have been inclined to control its price, and they have. As such, industrial demand for silver has outstripped new supply for some time.

The price of silver will go up mainly as a function of industrial demand in light of a supply that has been controlled. For thirty years now industry has been eating up the world's supply of reserve silver.

As confidence in fiat currencies goes down, monetary demand for silver will go up and there will be a severe shortage of silver on the market. The price of silver will go up, as long as there is industrial demand for it.

However, monetary demand for silver is limited, because it is not a very reliable store of wealth since the supply is so variable. Ultimately the price of silver will go up enough to supply industry in the absence of the reserve silver that has been drawn down over the last thirty years.

Therefore the price of silver may go up by a factor of 3 to 5 times its current price in inflation adjusted dollars.

However, as faith in fiat currencies goes away, there is an almost unlimited demand for gold. Never mind that governments hold so much gold. When they realize that their fiat currencies are in trouble, they will be loath to sell what they hold, so there will be a severe price pinch.

In a real panic, the major supply of gold will be people selling their jewelry. The supply will be quite limited and the price could spike to tens or even hundreds of times the current, inflation-adjusted price. The only way that you will be able to cash in on this situation is if you are sitting on a hoard of physical. The stock will not go up as much because people don't trust companies to hold something of value for them as much as they trust themselves to hold the same thing in their own hand.

The size of the spike in the price of gold will depend on how badly shaken is the public's faith in the value of fiat currency.

The size of the spike in the price of silver will depend partly on the depth of above stated panic, and partly on how much industrial demand exists, which is, in a sense, inversely proportional to the panic. In other words, if there is a currency panic, then industry will shut down during that time. The price of silver will not go up as much in that case.

So, I think that it's a good idea to have both gold and silver. They are both going to go up a great deal in real value because the price of each of these has been suppressed, however, the amount and timing of the price spike in gold and in silver will depend on different conditions.
Vincent Bressler

The gold shares caught a quiet bid and rose. The XAU gained 2.20 to 87.84, while the HUI made to its downtrend line at 190. It finished the day at 189.85, up 4.72.

The set up for gold and silver to take off is here. The gold fundamentals are "10++++." Whose to say whether we can break loose from the shackles of the abomination holding gold down, but with oil going nuts and the dollar under pressure, it is going to be very difficult for the bad guys to keep doing what they are doing.

The gold and silver shares could come to life any day and really take off. Sweet thoughts for the weekend anyway.

GATA BE IN IT TO WIN IT!

MIDAS

Uh-Oh, Look What Happened to the Dollar
7 August 2004

For the past couple of weeks we have been watching and waiting to see if the dollar could reverse its long-standing downtrend. The market's verdict is now in, as is clear from the following chart of the US Dollar Index.

[Blockierte Grafik: http://goldmoney.com/en/images…arts/alert_2004-08-07.gif]

On Friday the dollar was slammed hard, and this chart of the Dollar Index shows the damage. But we should not be too surprised. The dollar in recent days has had every chance to break above its downtrend line. Instead, each time it tried to do so, there were more people willing to dump dollars than buy them.

Note how the Dollar Index was declining along the downtrend line for several days before Friday's thumping. That feeble performance was a sign of weakness, and that weakness finally manifest itself on Friday as economic reality set in.

The economic reality is of course that not everything is as rosy with the economy as politicians and the 'bubble-makers' at the Federal Reserve would want you to believe. For weeks, most everyone has been in a stupor waiting for lower oil prices, without giving much consideration to the damage already being wreaked on the economy by $2 gasoline.

This last point is important. The economy is slowing because of rising gasoline prices, which have diverted consumer dollars into energy and away from consumer goods. But rising gasoline prices have not yet reduced the demand for gasoline. So we should be looking for higher gas prices, which in turn will further raise inflationary concerns. Also, crude oil appears ready to stay above $40 given the tightness of supply and continuing strong demand.

This means that new lows for the dollar are already 'baked into the cake', given the rapidly climbing inflationary trends in the US and the slow pace at which the Federal Reserve is raising interest rates. The well-publicized 0.25% hike likely to be announced by the Fed on Tuesday is not going to make a difference.

In short, Federal Reserve actions suggest that they believe that the economy can better handle higher energy prices and more inflation than rising interest rates. The consequence is a lower dollar - and in time, much higher gold.

http://goldmoney.com/en/commentary.php