Thai Guru's Gold und Silber ... (Informationen und Vermutungen)

    Goldbugs500


    Sorry, hab Dein letztes Posting nicht mitgekriegt, weil ich gerade an schreiben war.


    Trotzem es ist eine manipulative sauerei erster Güte, was Reuters mit dieser Meldung über angebliche 600 Millionen Tonnen geplanter Gold Verkäufe durch die Bundesbank, für Schaden bei den Goldanlegern angerichtet hat.


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

    Es ist schon komisch, dass die Agenturen und Redaktionen ihre Fehler fast immer zu Ungunsten von Gold machen... 8o
    Aber auch wenn keine manipulativen Absichten dahinter stecken, zeigt es einmal mehr, wie gross das Unwissen über das Gold und über den Goldmarkt ist! Für viele Journalisten und Redakteure ist der Fehler wahrscheinlich nicht mal offensichtlich, da sie sich wahrscheinlich nie tiefergehend mit dem Thema beschäftigt haben.


    Um es positiv zu sehen: Man male sich den Goldpreis aus, wenn erstmal alle diese Leute über das Gold Bescheid wissen. Wahrscheinlich wir er dann mind. 4-stellig... 8)

    @ ThaiGuru


    no Problem...


    Ich meine auch, das die Seite in dieser Form bald berichtigt wird !



    Eins ist doch offensichtlich: Die Menschen werden für Dumm

    verkauft!




    Doch der Tag wird kommen, an dem die Masse wach wird, dann wird es kein Gold und Silber mehr auf dem freien Markt geben....


    Bleiben wir Cremig , wir können es doch erwarten, oder?

    Ich frage mich, was euch alle so sicher macht, dass ihr den Tag noch erleben werdet, an dem die Masse Gold und Silber entdeckt.


    Was ist, wenn das Fiat-Money noch weitere 30 Jahre überlebt? Oder noch länger?


    Die Hochfinanz hat es ja auch bisher geschafft, den Goldpreis zu manipulieren und das Kreditgeld als das einzig Wahre hinzustellen.
    NOCH glaubt die Masse an den Dollar und den Euro usw!


    Ich meine, ihr dürft den Einfallsreichtum und die Gier der Hochfinanz nicht unterschätzen.
    Und außerdem: solange es Opium fürs Volk in Form von TV auf niedrigstem Niveau, aber mit scheinbar hohen Geldgewinnen für jedermann gibt, wird die Masse sich nicht mit Gold und Silber und dem ganzen Zeugs von langfristigem Anlegen befassen. Die sind alle zu bequem und sie brauchen ihre Euros für Autos, Handys, Klamotten usw. Nicht aber dafür, Gold zu kaufen in der Hoffnung, damit Werterhalt zu schaffen. In der heutigen Zeit gilt nur eines: schnell reich werden ohne den Finger krumm zu machen - was ich allerdings auch gerne für mich so hätte. :D


    Grüße


    extrel

    @xtrel


    Zitat

    Ich frage mich, was euch alle so sicher macht, dass ihr den Tag noch erleben werdet, an dem die Masse Gold und Silber entdeckt.


    Das Wissen um die Zustände der Wirtschaft, des Finanzwesens. den tatsächlichen Geschehnisse beim Gold Handel, und vor allem um die Fundamentaldaten beim Gold, und noch mehr beim Silber.


    Wie alt ich genau werde weiss ich leider selbst nicht, doch ich hoffe, dass ich mindestens die max. 3 bis 5 Jahre noch erleben werde, die meiner Ansicht nach die äusserste Zeitspanne darstellt bis *Fiat Money* so wie wir es heute kennen abgelöst wird, und durch eine zumindest teilweise Gold gedeckte Währungen abgelöst werden wird, oder noch besser, abgelöst werden muss. Weil bis dannzumal selbst Idioten merken, dass mit ihrem Papier Geld irgend etwas nicht mehr stimmt. Die Hochfinanz wie sie Du nennst, weiss das schon länger, das es so kommen wird, und bereitet sich täglich mehr darauf vor. Sie schichtet um in tangible Assets, in Rohstoffe wie Oel, Kupfer, Blei, Zinn, Uranium, etc., und eben auch vermehrt ins Gold, und Silber. Vorzugsweise Gold, und Silber, das sich noch im Boden befindet. (Aktien)


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

    Noch so ein Artikel von der durchsichtigen "Gold wird nicht mehr gebraucht" Sorte!


    Ob hier der Autor wirklich nur seine eigene Meinung wiedergibt, wie es vermerkt ist?



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    Why Is Europe Now Breaking Into Its Gold Vaults?: Matthew Lynn


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    Having a good feel for the yellow metal, this industry veteran is beating the odds in investing in the commodity


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    "For long-term holding, he has invested in gold bars and Maple Leaf coins, kept in a safe deposit box in a bank."


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    April 19 - Gold $400 down 20 cents - Silver $7.18 up 6 cents


    Gold Gives Up Strong Gains, Silver Moves Higher


    Zitat

    I have only ever made one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it... Voltaire


    GO GATA!!!


    The AM Gold Fix came in at $405.30. It was downhill from there on in. The early strength made sense because the physical market is so firm. The sell-off made sense too – same kind of market action we have witnessed for more than 5 years. The Gold Cartel had no intention of letting gold rally what with Spain calling for an immediate withdrawal of its troops. It just wouldn’t be right for the US to let gold rally after the Bush Administration received this slap in the face from the Spanish.


    Aside from that, not much to say today. What I thought might be of interest was in yesterday’s MIDAS.


    The trading action was extremely subdued. The dollar closed down .13 to 94.50, while the euro gained .29 to 120.


    The Café Sentiment Indicator dropped to a 2 on Saturday, lowest rating of the year. It is back up to a 4 - still a bullish price indicator.


    The gold open interest only contracted 3591 contracts to 266,352. Silver’s went down much more on a percentage basis, falling 3348 to 111,343.


    Platinum closed at $937, up $15. Palladium finished at $324,up $12. Both trade like other free markets.


    One item worth mentioning is the increasing Comex disconnect from the physical market around the world, a la the $5 fall from its early overseas highs. Word to me from my STALKER source is Far East gold demand has been accelerating and will continue to accelerate. Western physical demand is also picking up as dealers are getting NEW customers who are diversifying their investment portfolios.

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    CARTEL CAPITULATION WATCH


    The DOG showed signs of life, jumping 25 to 2020, while the DOW slipped 14 to 10,437.


    GATA’s Mike Bolser:


    Hi Bill:


    The Fed added $3.25 Billion today April 19th 2004, an action that raised the repo pool to $34.58 Billion and kept the bouncy turn back up looking odd. Recall that the past turns have been sharp and definite compared with the latest which has been hesitant and choppy.


    The DOW is down a bit at this hour (11AM) and its 30-day ma still eases down in what appears to be a cycling action preparing to recapture its old linear trend.


    Two-wheeler


    A reader asked about the absolute pool level and why it hasn't risen with the Dow itself. My answer is that the Fed support situation is akin to a father supporting his daughter's first bicycle ride without training wheels. Almost all the "work" is done by the little girl until a problem develops and then the dad quickly shows up to rescue the day. Just the right amount of support is provided.


    The above analogy isn't exactly fair because little girls learn to ride while the DOW has become dependent on the Fed to the degree that without the Fed the DOW would permanently fall to very low levels.


    I continue to feel that the Fed is more worried about a DOW that runs up too fast and is careful not to add to much support.
    Mike


    Another one bites the dust:


    Armenia sells its gold reserves


    Yerevan. (Interfax) - The Central Bank of Armenia has sold the country's gold reserves of about 1.4 tonnes, the Bank told Interfax.


    Details of the deal, which took place and the end of last year, are not being disclosed.


    The Central Bank of Armenia's board decided to sell the reserves because of the high liquidity on the gold market over the past few years, the Bank's press service reported. "The high correlation between gold and the euro means that even without gold in international reserves the necessary level of diversification can be maintained and at the same time the yield of international reserves can be raised," the Bank said.


    In recent years, gold reserves have remained unchanged at around 1,396 kg, which on October 1 2003 was estimated at $17.1 million (3.65% of Armenia's international reserves of $468.7 million). International reserves, already without gold, totaled $512 million on April 1 2004. –END-


    From the horse’s mouth and a VERY appropriate follow-up to yesterday’s MIDAS:


    Bill ....


    Just got back from visiting my friend whose brother works for a European central bank. He called last weekend over the Easter holiday and answered some of the questions that I had left for his brother to ask. The silver buying he spoke of in December is still taking place in spite of hindrances from financial authorities. Their buying is confined to Europe but they are causing other Euro buyers to go to the Comex or other world sources as they continue to draw on local supplies. Most of the silver they have paid for remains in the hands of the dealers for now. The source can't or won't say who the buyer(s) are. He reiterated the importance of physical as they expect at least one major bullion/certificate dealer to face insolvency over this issue. He expects that we are only weeks away from a serious disconnect in the market.


    Two significant issues concerning gold were addressed. The gold loans are far in excess of what the official numbers suggest (as you already know). He suspects that as much as 80% of the European held gold is out on loan or encumbered. This is a taboo subject as it would leave many Euro participants holding less than the minimum amount required for reserve purposes. He doesn't know for sure and does not think that anyone knows the whole picture. To talk of such issues is a guaranteed career-ending move. A revision of the Euro gold reserve requirements will confirm what you already suspect; something he feels we will see in the not too distant future.


    One of the larger holders/dealers of Euro dollars is preparing to exit the trade after providing loans for over thirty years. They are winding down their modest US operations ahead of a huge move into gold. He would not say who but hinted that the answer can be found by seeing who is to close US offices. He could not say how much gold they will be buying other than;" a significant amount. They are concerned about punitive measures from US authorities. If you alert some of your contacts about this, you may be able to find out which fund or institution and the amount of US dollars they will be spending. In his estimation this will have a profound effect on the market. No time frame was given.


    A little perspective on this info is in order. Much was said but I am getting it second hand and a week after the fact. There is also the issue of translation as the original conversation was not in English. Our source is a central banker and not a gold advocate. He is within the loop as an "XYZ" but plays a minimal role in making policy. He (and his superior) are disgusted with recent US federal reserve and IMF actions and to a lesser extent, those within the Euro community. He is within a Scandinavian country that has not as of yet accepted the Euro program. He claims that in spite of the IMF having a neutral position on Euro membership, the reality is they are very hostile to potential Euro members. They are also hostile towards expanded gold reserves and he says that they have a contingency plan to bring gold prices down to earth should they run away. The IMF is trying to promote to European central bankers and finance ministry officials a withholding tax to be imposed at point of sale to ensure that capital gains from gold sales do not go unreported . As far as he can tell, the plan is getting no support in Europe but suggests that Americans should be concerned. He says that American officials have already made recent rules concerning vendors that make this possible.


    There is no doubt in his mind that gold prices are " managed "and he says that the IMF plays a substantial role for reasons that my friend did not clearly understand and was unable to relay to me.


    Sincerely ..... Jax


    Thanks Jax, some letter. It virtually confirms what GATA has been saying for more than five years. We are right on the money.


    Houston’s Dan Norcini with a few quips:


    It makes perfect and obvious sense to knock gold down $5.00 off the evening session highs given everything that has transpired the last two days? Unbelievable! Without knowing what GATA knows, not one whit of it would make the least sense.


    Looks like the long liquidation continues - pretty good drop in OI again on Friday. We are getting down to some pretty low levels once again. I am thinking we might need to get down to 230,000 or so before we head back up again and move out of this consolidation pattern.


    Dan


    Another Texan, Derek Van Artsdalen from San Antonio:


    Hi Bill,


    It's been awhile since I updated the price of gold in S. African Rand, and I thought this weekend might be a good time to do it. We're right on the cusp of a major test point that I think your readers may want to know about, especially since I discovered something quite astounding. This could have big implications for the S. African mining company stocks, such as DROOY, GFI and others. These stocks could be shooting up in a big way almost immediately if the pattern I've identified continues to hold.


    Here's a 3-year chart of the Rand price of gold through Friday, April 16.


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    According to StockCharts.com, the price of gold in Rand closed Friday at 2612.07 Rand per ounce. As shown before in "Midas," the price downtrend has been in play since as far back as December of 2001. I've drawn it here with a red line starting from the last major peak in the fall of 2002. However, the RSI and MACD internal indicators both show clear signs of strengthening, as indicated by the up-sloping turquoise trend lines.


    Notice that the price as of Friday is now touching exactly on the major uptrend line (shown here in green). I've circled this point in pink and labeled it #3.


    A lot of technical analysts have probably observed that when price touches a major support or resistance line for the third time in a symmetrical triangle without penetrating it, the price very often will bounce off the line and go zooming in the opposite direction. If the action is near the triangle's apex (as in this case) the price will often continue on and decisively break through the opposite trendline, thus providing resolution of the pattern and the beginnings of a new price trend.


    In the chart above, the price of gold in Rand has now touched the green support line for the third time from the point of inception back in June 2001. I've circled all three occasions for easy reference. The interesting thing is, each time the Rand price of gold has touched the rising green support line it has blasted off in the opposite direction. The first time it happened, the price of gold in Rand rose about 600R. The second time it rose about 500R. These are some serious price movements on a percentage basis!


    As of this past week, the Rand price of gold has now touched the green support line for the third time since its inception point back in '01. If we get the kind of reversal and price appreciation we've seen to date whenever this occurs, the Rand price of gold could be headed to more than 3000 Rand per ounce,taking the price line easily up and out of the symmetrical triangle and setting a new upward price trend in motion. Believe me, if this happens it won't escape the notice of the chartists around the planet, and it surely won't be lost on the executives of the S. African mining companies, who will then be watching their bottom-line profits skyrocket.


    We already know from previous Cafe contributors that the price of gold is beginning to rise in terms of currencies other than the U.S. dollar. Lately, even the euro has been weak relative to gold. Can the Rand and other fiat currencies be far behind? I believe we'll have our answer to that question within the next six months or so. As far as the Rand price of gold is concerned, the answer may come much sooner...


    Keep the heat on 'em, Bill. They're starting to squirm in their seats!
    Derek


    Attention: Bill Murphy, Le Metropole Café


    CATCH 22


    G’day Bill,


    I read Jim Sinclair recent posting on the Café’.


    http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/toulouse-lautrec_table.cfm? cfid=903378&cftoken=40831827&pid=3759


    Jim reckons that Gold is head, in the long term, to US$ 1500 per ounce.


    I read an article, probable compiled by Jim, some time ago that in order to "balance" the M3 Money Supply that the Gold price would have to equal US$1500 per ounce.


    Silly me. "Balance" is an abstract word in today’s world, in the US Financial Markets. A "balance" of the books is not of course going to happen.


    With the current financial regime, the long term prognoses is HYPERIFLATION, with an endless supply of paper M3 Money.


    Either way, the US$ is caught is a "Catch 22" situation. On one hand, with HYPERINFALTION, the Gold price can only rise. One the other hand, in order to "balance" the M3 supply, the Gold price can only rise. Indeed a "Catch 22".


    Add onto this the future demand for Gold, in particular the Eurasian Block. People really do not trust the US and its Government, they do trust Gold.


    The escalating situation in Iraq will, unfortunately, be the grave-yard of many brave people, American and Iraqi. It will also be the grave-yard of the US$, and the catalyst to true freedom, Gold.


    At what price is "Freedom"; it’s not in US$’s , but in Gold.


    Oh to be a Geologist, with a nose for Gold!!
    Och aye,
    Haggis


    Some tidbits from Mahendra:


    ….Today one of the Television companies from London is coming here to interview me concerning my work on the world financial markets after watching my work for quite some time.


    I won’t take much of your time here. Few key predictions have come true from my book "2004 World & financial prophecies" since its launch in November 2003.


    EURO TOUCHING $1.30
    POUND 1.88 AGAINST THE US DOLLAR
    GAINING OF YEN AGAINST THE DOLLAR. IT HAS ALSO STARTED GAINING AGAINST EURO (I
    AM VERY KEEN TO SEE THIS FIGHT).
    RISING OF METAL STOCKS IN EARLY 2004.
    GOLD TOUCHING $433.
    SILVER FINALLY REACHED $7.95.
    PALLADIUM GAINED MORE THAN 50%.
    PLATINUM CROSSING $900.
    COPPER RISING IN EARLY 2004.
    LIBYA MAKING FRIENDSHIP WITH THE WORLD.
    INDIA-PAKISTAN CRICKET SERIES.
    WINNING OF MBEKI IN RSA ELECTIONS.
    MIDDLE EAST AND IRAQ WILL BRING UNHEALTHY SITUATION IN THE WORLD IN EARLY 2004.
    MANY EARTH QUAKES IN FIRST QUARTER AND MANY OTHERS.


    A few major ones are still pending and I am sure that they will be fulfilled in the pending 8 months. Here are a few:


    GOLD $525 TO $580 AND SILVER $12 TO $14 IN 2004.

    PALLADIUM WILL GAIN MORE THAN 300%.

    DOWN JONES WILL COLLAPSE BELOW 7000 MARK ANY TIME AFTER 21 JUNE.

    AFTER JULY INDIAN PRIME MINISTER ATAL BIHARI VAJPEE WILL NOT RULE INDIA AND IN COMING ELECTION NO PARTY WILL GET FULL MAJORITY.

    SHARON WILL GO AROUND OR AFTER 15 MAY 2004.

    BIG TENSION IN THE MIDDLE EAST IN THE MONTH OF APRIL AND MAY.

    BANGLADESH WILL BE COVERED IN FLOODS AND WIPE OUT MORE THAN HALF OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THIS YEAR BEFORE 4 AUGUST.

    SOUTH AFRICAN RAND WILL COLLAPSE TO 8.75 IN THE YEAR 2004.

    USA AND UK WILL LOSE BATTLE IN THE UNFINISHED WAR IN IRAQ BY THE IRAQI PEOPLE AND OPPOSITION WILL GROW STRONGER AGAINST BUSH AND BLAIR.

    YES –I WILL SOON ANNOUNCE THE USA ELECTIONS RESULT. I HAVE DONE A DETAILED STUDY AND THE PREDICTION IS READY BUT NEGATIVE ASTROLOGICAL COMBINATION IS HOLDING ME TO PREDICT BECAUSE THE PREDICTIONS ON THE ELECTIONS LOOK SCARY.


    Thanks & God Bless


    Mahendra


    Seabridge Gold, a staunch GATA supporter and one of my holdings, begins trading on the Amex tomorrow. This is a good play for those who believe the price of gold is going much higher because of their substantial gold resources.


    The gold shares continue to diddle around in meandering fashion. The XAU lost .68 to 94.50 and the HUI gave up .84 to 211.72.


    Today was frustrating. Such promise early turned into a dud for the most part. Tomorrow ought to be a better day.


    GATA BE IN IT TO WIN IT!

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