Thai Guru's Gold und Silber ... (Informationen und Vermutungen)

Karl

Hoffe dass Du diesen Beitrag auch schon gelesen hast!

http://www.safehaven.com/article-1623.htm

If the FED is repeatedly warning us about the possible financial systemic risk of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac I think it is wise to be on full alert for a crisis in these companies. I think they are experiencing a crisis already and the FED is pumping billions of M3 to liquefy these companies. Remember that what you have read above is the official version from the FED. The official version is scary enough, who knows how they talk about this issue behind closed doors. I think a severe shock is about to hit the financial markets in the form of a GSE collapse. A crash like this will throw the US and world economies into recession so fast it will make your head spin. Eventually these events will lead the global economies into a new depression...

Magnus O. Ekervik

Copyright © 2004 Magnus O. Ekervik. All rights reserved.

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Reuters

Consumer credit rose $3.9 bln in April, Fed says

Monday June 7, 3:31 pm ET

http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/040607/economy_credit_1.html

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Reuters

US homeownership grows, but higher rates pose risk-rpt

Monday June 7, 2:31 pm ET

NEW YORK, June 7 (Reuters) - U.S. homeownership grew last year, but any sharp rise in U.S. interest rates or slowdown in the rate of job growth pose risks for homeowners, a study warned.

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"Home prices in many areas of the country have risen considerably faster than household incomes ... Sharply higher interest rates would, however, quickly erode affordability for for homebuyers," according to a study issued on Monday by the Harvard University Joint Center for Housing Studies.

weiter.....

http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/040607/economy_housing_1.html

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Reuters

U.S. bill auction attracts only lukewarm demand

Monday June 7, 1:54 pm ET

NEW YORK, June 7 (Reuters) - A U.S. government sale of three- and six-month Treasury bills on Monday attracted the weakest level of demand in weeks even though yields are near their highest for eighteen months.

Der allerwichtigste Abschnitt in dieser Meldung von Reuters:

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"Primary dealers took 71 percent or $10.656 billion, while indirect bidders -- the customers of primary dealers including overseas central banks -- bought 23 percent or $3.42 billion."

Das heisst nichts anderes als, dass die Primary Dealer 71% aller neuen Treasury Bills (US Staatsanleihen) selbst gekauft haben. Und nur noch 23% an Zentralbanken, oder Kunden der Primary Dealer veräussert werden konnten. Dabei vermute ich, dass die BoJ den Löwenanteil des "kleinen" Restes gekauft hat.

Dass die Primary Dealer der FED, dazu gehört u.a. auch die Deutsche Bank, ständig mit neuer Liquidität, geschaffen aus dem "NICHTS" versorgt werden, um es ihnen überhaupt zu ermöglichen die von der Regierung ausgegebenen Treasury's zu kaufen, weil aus bekannten Gründen, immer weniger Nachfrage dafür besteht, muss ich wohl noch einmal mehr erwähnen. Dass die Primary Dealer auf Weisung der FED mit den sogenannten "Repos" (GATAS Mark Bolser berichtet täglich über die neuen Repo Raten), auch Futures, oder Aktien am DOW oder anderswo kaufen, ist nicht nur naheliegend, es ist eine Tatsache. Mehr noch, sogar ein FED Direktor hat in einer öffentlich gemachten Aussage klar ausgesprochen, dass der FED durch ihre "Drucker Presse" unendliche Mittel zur Verfügung stehen, die sie falls nötig auch einsetzen wird.

Und das tut die FED gerade auf Hochturen, wie uns das Geldmengen Wachstum M3 der USA, seit langem jede Woche neu bestätigt

Gruss

ThaiGuru

Trostlose Aussichten?

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Monday, 7 June, 2004, 07:41 GMT 08:41 UK

Is the world's oil running out fast?

By Adam Porter

at the Peak Oil conference in Berlin

If you think oil prices are high at $40 a barrel then wait till they are four times that much.

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How will you pay to run your car? How will you get the children to school? How will you heat your house? How much will transported food go up in price?

How will we pay for plastics, metals, rubber, cheap flights, Simpson's DVDs, 3G phones and everlasting economic growth?

The basic answer is, we won't.

This is the message from the Association for the Study of Peak Oil (ASPO).

The group of oil executives, geologists, investment bankers, academics and others has been warning the world of high oil prices, and the ensuing fallout, for some years now.

The end of cheap oil

It includes a diverse range of oil industry insiders.

People like Ali Bakhtiari, head of strategic planning at Iran's National Oil Company (NOIC), Dr Colin Campbell, a former executive vice president of Total-Fina, and Matthew Simmons, an energy investment banker and adviser to the controversial Bush-Cheney energy plan.

They are united by one idea, that global oil production is about to peak, which in turn will signal the permanent end of cheap oil.

And they warn that this is the foundation of the current rise in oil prices.

Who hurts when prices explode?

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"Oil is far too cheap at the moment," says Mr Simmons.

"The figure I'd use is around $182 a barrel. We need to price oil realistically to control its demand. That is because global production is peaking."

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Large new oil fields are ever more difficult to find
"If we price oil correctly," Mr Simmons says, "it could give us time to find bridge fuels, fuels to fill the gap between an oil economy and a renewable economy. But I don't see that happening."

The adherents of the peak oil theory warn the decline of world oil output will force oil prices higher for good, and that the knock on effects could be catastrophic.

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"In my opinion, unfortunately, there will be no linear change," says Iran's Ali Bakhtiari. "There will only be sudden explosive change."

"The people who will be least affected will be the super poor, who already have no access to energy, and the super rich who do not care if oil is $100 a barrel."

"It is everyone who is in the middle who will be hurt the most," says Mr Bakhtiari. "When the crisis comes there will be enormous changes."

Oil rationing?

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Dr Campbell says endless growth is not possible

Much of ASPO's predictions stem from the calculations of Dr Campbell.

His work on oil reserves has long suggested that many official oil data are either flawed estimates or at worst downright lies.

Scandals like the 23% of 'lost' reserves at Royal Dutch Shell have helped to boost interest in his work.

False reserves threaten the security of energy supply, just as do bombs under pipelines.

Dr Campbell's conclusion: oil production and consumption should be regulated by governments.

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"Many reserve figures are highly questionable," says Dr Campbell.

"Many great oil fields are increasingly old and inefficient. But I don't think oil is easy to produce with a sniper behind every palm tree."

"The way to increase energy security is to reduce demand," he says.

'Difficult times'

At ASPO's recent conference in Berlin, companies such as BP and Exxon and men such as Fatih Birol, chief economist of the International Energy Agency, began to talk to the proponents of the peak oil theory.

Whilst they may not agree with Dr Campbell's theories, their attendance highlighted ASPO's emerging importance in the oil debate.

In public, Mr Birol denied that supply would not be able to meet rising demand, especially from the buoyant economies in the USA, China and India.

But after his speech he seemed to change his tune.

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"For the time being there is no spare capacity. But we expect demand to increase by the fourth quarter (of the year) by three million barrels a day."

He pinned his hopes for an increase in production squarely on troubled Saudi Arabia.

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"If Saudi does not increase supply by 3 million barrels a day by the end of the year we will face, how can I say this, it will be very difficult. We will have difficult times. They must invest."

Can Saudi deliver?

But even Mr Birol admitted that Saudi production was "about flat".

Three million extra barrels a day would mean a huge 30% leap in output in just a few months.

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North Sea oil production is in decline

When BBC News Online followed up by asking if this giant increase in production was actually possible rather than simply a desire he refused to answer. "You are from the press? This is not for you. This is not for the press."

Asking other delegates - admittedly supporters of the peak oil theory - whether such a steep increase was feasible, the answers were unambiguous: "absolutely out of the question," "completely impossible," and "3 million barrels - never, not even 300,000."

One delegate laughed so hard he had to support himself on a table.

Some recent figures tend to back up ASPO's outlook.

North Sea production is declining at an increasing rate, having peaked in 1999. 

Not at the predicted flat rate of decline of 7%, but gradually accelerating from 7% to 8.5% to 11%.

And the number of major new oil fields discovered around the world fell to zero for the first time in 2003, despite an obvious increase in technological expertise.

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"We need transparency with the figures," says Dr Campbell.

"This avoids profiteering from shortages, the collapse of poor countries and it will stimulate alternatives."

"Consumer countries need to be able to audit fields, but at the same time 'flat earth' economists who believe in endless growth need to change their ideas."

And Dr Campbell has a dire warning: "If the real figures were to come out there would be panic on the stock markets, in the end that would suit no one."

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June 7 - Gold $393.50 up $2.90 - Silver $5.88 up 10 cents

Gold And Silver Continue Their Rebound

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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free... Ronald Reagan (may he rest in peace)

GO GATA!!!!

Pretty dull day. Gold, which closed up $2.90 for the second day in a row, came in firm following dollar weakness, doing little from there on in. The euro closed at 123.21, up .24 with the dollar losing .30 to 88.29. The big winner was the yen, which rose to 109.60 against the dollar. Specs have targeted 88 as a key point for the dollar. A move below this critical technical level could send it cascading.

The dollar continues to break down following Friday’s outside day key reversal lower:

September
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/94

Technically, the key for gold is to take out $400, basis August. This becomes apparent when viewing the August chart:

http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/84

When gold does take this resistance point out, it could run up from there very quickly as it will have broken through all the important moving averages.

Volume in the Comex gold pit was light with some trade buying reported.

The Café Sentiment Indicator dropped right back down to a 4 after jumping up sharply on the day after the massacre in Saudi Arabia. Gold is $25 off its low, yet interest is at an ebb in my shop, as it is on the Comex.

The gold open interest rose 1790 contracts to 228,343. Plenty of room for 80,000 longs to show up on the buy side and take us through $430.

Last week MIDAS reported of the highest premiums for refinery gold since Y2K. Gold demand is firm all over the place. Harvey Gordon of Ed Dorado Discount Gold in Glendale, Arizona says business has never been better and also reports of brisk business done at the Long Beach Coin Show. One of reasons for the big pick up in gold coin sales, according to Harvey, is more and more Americans distrust the noise coming out of Washington and Wall Street.

Just shake my head when I see headlines like these (http://www.bulliondesk.com) from the mainstream gold world:

Rising Gold Price Volatility Choking Physical Demand - SG

Rhona O'Connell - Oil; gold prices reflect political risk rather than inflation

Neither are correct. Time and time again those affiliated with the bullion dealer crowd knock gold and fail to report what is really happening.

Side note:

The move last Friday from gold’s low to its close was $6.90. Hard to get away from the $6 Rule.

Silver stayed firm all session long in quiet trading. Not much to report here. Open interest is still on the low side compared to where it was months ago at 85,167, down 352 contracts.

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CARTEL CAPITULATION WATCH

Big day for the US stock market. It roared ahead with the DOW up 148 to 10,391 and the DOG up 42 to 2021.

GATA’s Mike Bolser:

Hi Bill:

The Fed added $9.5 Billion in repos today June 7th 2004, an action that popped the repo pool up to 46 .35 Billion and provided the DOW with an extra boost. The pool's moving average remains on its smooth upward, almost linear trajectory and in this regard things are just as they have been in the recent past.

News wires boast that the NASDAQ is over 2,000 today so we can thank the Fed's primary dealer's futures buying for that once unlikely development. The DOW also is rebounding away from what some crash-meisters though was an imminent drop. They need to appreciate that the DOW is a "National Security" entity and as such it has all the attention, support and protection that "money" can buy. Indeed, when asked about the possibility of intervention most respond that there happy about the idea. One can't be too shocked about this position but the ultimate fallout of rancid market fundamentals is bad for ALL world free markets. Gold bugs ought to also realize that we can't push too hard on a personal level without risking alienation.

The best advice is to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. That plan involves energy shares these days. Especially small debt-free exploration firms that have good prospects and of course small precious metals firms.

Mike

GATA read this King Report on the real US employment situation:

http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/img2004/KR040607.pdf

Craig Harris of http://www.harriscapitalmanagement.com has additional insight into the real jobs picture:

The Jobs data on Friday caused a surge in the USD and a sharp selloff in gold but that reaction only lasted a few minutes before the USD index turned negative and gold higher. It looked a lot like it could have been a short term inflection point. Put it this way....it's what I wanted to see.

Why does everyone in the US press (including the financial press) talk to me like I'm in kindergarden? The overseas press doesn't do that????? Seriously, I saw a very interesting chart on Friday. It was a chart of what the jobs data needed to look like to achieve GW's campaign pledge of 2.4 million jobs. Guess what? The data we've been seeing fits the curve perfectly. He's right on track. Nice job Elaine, Dick is happy. So...although none of the financial market participants seem to be able to predict the jobs data....Elaine Chow at the BLS (drop the L) can because she's fitting it to GW's campaign statement at Cheney's request....that's what I think. It was reported Cheney made visits to the BLS...I think he said, Elaine, GW would be happy if it conformed to this chart. Why can't people see this for what it is? It doesn't take a lot of analysis to discredit the figures and that has been done out of the mainstream after every report lately. In today's report the birth/death model reportedly accounts for 190,000 jobs. There are so many esoteric tweaks in there they can make the number whatever they want. Interestingly that also explains why the polls show only 40% happy with the economy and yet all of this stellar data coming out of DC. I mean, that's the explanation that all these high paid economists are scratching their ivy league heads over. It must be too obvious to see?? Sometimes I wonder how much is ignorance and how much is "playing the game"?

I have yet to hear in the past several years anyone in the mainstream financial press consider the thought that government data could possibly be "managed". That speaks volumes because it is certainly an idea to always consider or debate. There is motive, and there is opportunity...that is undeniable. As to whether the only remaining component....willingness....is there, I don't need to debate that with myself.

There are a few exceptions to that thought...a few "fringe mainstream" people like Crudele at the NY Post write about this kind of thing....and guys like Jim Rogers that used to come on CNBC and go off until GE forever pulled the plug on him or anyone like him....guys like that are just bad for business. It's Disneyland America where everything is brightly colored, sanitized and good. So...it's obvious what's going on and if it's not obvious what is going on by now, it will never be. When official Government data becomes subject to the re-election campaign of someone who said at least twice that "a dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier", I think that's a problem for a free market participant.... because it means he's pretty far along. A dictatorship is easier. A lot easier. It's just easier to pull the data out of thin air or have your man run down and tell someone what it should be....and you have to be a dictator to do that because a Democracy doesn't work that way. Think about that. I mean, I have no ax to grind....I'm just making observations here and drawing some conclusions that I think are quite logical.

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Here is another uninformed comment via the "None Are So Blind As Those Who Refuse To See" crowd:

From John Mauldin's current letter, emphasis supplied:

My conclusion/observation/conjecture is that the unwinding of the carry trade is in process. The funds which have made so much over the last year on these trades are now paying the price to lock in their profits. Thus, the speculation that drove commodities and all manner of investments to overbought levels is being driven from the market. Thus, you see copper and gold dropping, interest rates rise as speculators sell their long bonds and all manner of market moves as margin clerks require funds to maintain cash levels. They do not care where the cash comes from, so funds that have less liquid derivative positions and also gold exposure may be selling gold to raise cash, as an example. (Why else would gold be dropping as inflation is rising and the money supply is exploding?) Or it could be copper or Russian stocks which get hammered by the margin clerks (could we once again be talking value and Russian stocks in the same breath?).

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Why else, Mr. Mauldin? How about for the same obvious reason GATA has presented to you for 5 ½ years now. How many anomalies and how much evidence needs to surface before you get it? The gold market is managed, rigged, and moved around by A Gold Cartel, which includes the Plunge Protection Team, of which you debunked last year:

The Plunge Protection Team A Hedge Fund's Secret Wish Randomness and Responsibility

…You could not keep something of this size secret. Period. The orders would have to be entered somewhere. The theory is that Goldman Sachs or Citibank (or pick a firm) is part of this conspiracy. That means that multiple traders and officers would have to be in the know. You cannot mask trades of that size because it would essentially be the largest hedge fund in the world. Someone would spill the beans. Can you imagine the signing bonus from a book publisher if you could prove the existence of the PPT?

I hereby offer a $100,000 advance against 50% of the royalties to anyone who can "show me the trades." Give me names and dates. I will write the book, and we both become famous….

The entire article may be found at:
http://www.frontlinethoughts.c…tarticle.asp?id=mwo040403

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WHICH, was countered so well by the eloquent Nelson H:

April 8, 2003

IS THE PPT AN "URBAN MYTH?"

Nelson Hultberg

http://www.lemetropolecafe.com…=2921&SearchParam=Mauldin

Former Federal Reserve governor, Robert Heller, had the following to say about the size of the market in an article he wrote for the Wall Street Journal, on October 27, 1989 -- an article that shockingly advocates direct intervention by the Fed into the market to buy S&P futures:

"The stock market is certainly not too big for the Fed to handle," Heller stated. "The foreign exchange and government securities markets are vastly larger. Daily trading volume in the New York foreign exchange market is $130 billion. The daily volume for Treasury Securities is about $110 billion. The combined value of daily equity trading on the New York Exchange, the American Stock Exchange and the NASDAQ over-the-counter market ranges between $7 billion and $10 billion."

Observe that this figure of $7-$10 billion is for the combined trading of all the markets, and it is for 1989. Thus, we need to chop it some to arrive at figures for just the Dow, and then we need to expand it some to get today's figures. So let's assume the Dow's daily trading would have been approximately $5 billion in 1989, and that it has grown to around $15 billion today. This is hardly "hundreds of billions," as Mauldin claims. On the contrary, it is a very manageable sum as former Fed governor Heller maintained…

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In the United States men and women are often sentenced to death in a court of law when they are deemed guilty of a capital punishment offense beyond a reasonable doubt, many times based on circumstantial evidence. This occurs when the jury deems the evidence to be so overwhelming, there could be no other logical conclusion to what occurred. If GATA were allowed to present its case in a court of law, no doubt the jury would find The Gold Cartel guilty of gold price manipulation - aided by the Plunge Protection Team – even without a smoking gun in our hand.

Perhaps the brave judge in New Orleans will short circuit this eventual inevitable verdict in the public court of opinion when she rules on Barrick’s motion to suppress damning evidence by the central/bullion banks of what who did what and when. Judge Berrigan hears Barrick’s motion to suppress this part of discovery today in Federal Court. We should know the result within a week. If Barrick is turned down, Mr. Mauldin might have to pay up and will have the opportunity to write a book!

As mentioned in my last MIDAS, I was bit apprehensive regarding my posting of Capitol Blue’s piece on:

"Bush Becoming Irrational, Aides Say"

No more. Not when also put up on a former conservative Republican Senator’s web site:

http://fergusonreport.myonline…pop_id=161&article_id=216

The Ferguson Report is published by former Maryland Senator Tim Ferguson, who served from 1995 thru 2003 as a fairly conservative Republican representing Frederick & Carroll counties. Views expressed reflect Constitutional precepts - not partisan rhetoric.----Those who hold the reigns of power benefit from public scrutiny whether they are Democrat, Republican, Independent, Liberal, Conservative or Moderate.---------------------Tim Ferguson, registered as a Republican since 1976, believes the Constitution and America come first. Political party loyalty should never trump America`s strength - which is derived from covenantal morality. "Cookie-cutter" Republicans who place political conformity ahead of social justice damage the party and the nation.

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Why has this not received more attention from the US press?

Pending Draft Legislation Targeted for Spring 2005
The Draft will Start in June 2005

There is pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills: S 89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin at early as Spring 2005 -- just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately

http://www.congress.org/congre…ontent_dir=ua_congressorg

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But, there is no real inflation, or is there?

Bill, of the many things I try to track, one is real signs if inflation. Not so much for our interest in gold, but as much to manage my own personal finances. So... this is a checkpoint of just the last weeks data:

My auto fillup... 60 liters at $1.08 Cdn is the same as $3.08 US per gallon. Believe me.. I have done all the conversions and calculations and that the numbers nine months ago were $.76 per liter... about 30% less.

I am on a committee for my church and we are having some insulation work done. The cost of insulation went up 16% in Mar, and is forecasted to go up another 4 - 5% in June.

The small business I am helping does a monthly newsletter to some key analysists... two months ago that cost about $180, for a professional printer. This last issues (same volume, same process) was about $246.
At the same time, a friend of mine, believing that oil was going to increasing price, six months ago, bought a whole whack of Imperial oil stock. It has declined. He says.. .........Hello... What's Going On!! I said... the markets, esp. in the commodities areas are manipulated. His response was that he believes it wholeheartedly. I passed along Benson's "Wither the Dollar"

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_04/benson060304.html

and his comment back to me was... "the piper will have to be paid"! This is a retired butcher (owned a large chain here in Victoria) with an English degree from Univ of Edinburgh. Well educated and well versed in the day to day business world. he is no mans fool!

Bill... this is all building up to a massive collapse... or tidal wave of inflation.. take your pick. While Gold is at the center of it, its greed and raw power management that is consuming TPTB and the ordinary folk on the street are starting to see it. I am an ordinary folk.., so is my butcher friend, and its all becoming self-evident.

Cheers.. buddy..
Jack

More on the inflation front from Café member Lois, reporting on the real world:

Inflation hitting on things you would not think about in the relm.......on a personal note, my water company, Aquarion, is seeking a .20 a day increase...if passed, it will equate to a 33% waterbill increase.

The company that mows my lawn sent a notice out with this months bill that "due to the increase in the price of gas, $5.00 will be added to every lawn mowing starting this month - and of course the expected, my property taxes will be increased another 9% starting in July - all of these notices were sent out with in a weeks period of time.

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Where would our long term interest rates be without the Japanese?

Japan ups U.S. Treasury buying, yield seen a worry

Monday June 7, 2:46 am ET
By Yoshiko Mori

TOKYO, June 7 ( Reuters ) - Japan bought more U.S. Treasury bonds in May even though it is no longer amassing dollars from currency market intervention in an indication, analysts said, of its concern over a possible steep rise in U.S. yields.

Holdings of foreign bonds in Japan's foreign reserves rose $14.1 billion to
$637.8 billion in May from April, while holdings in foreign currency deposits at banks fell by $12.4 billion to $159.3 billion, Ministry of Finance figures showed on Monday.

Analysts said the increased buying may be due to Japanese authorities' concern that yields on U.S. Treasury bonds could surge if demand for the assets fell, damaging the economy in Japan's largest export market and threatening recovery at home. "The weighting shift towards more Treasuries has moderated a rise in U.S. yields, which is also good for Japan," said Masayuki Kichikawa, senior economist at Asahi Life Asset Management.

Japan has worked over the past year to keep exports on track, buying over $270 billion in the currency markets to try to keep the yen stable.

Most of those dollars have gone into U.S. Treasury bonds.

The ratio of bonds to deposits in Japan's reserves -- which totalled $816.848 billion in May, the largest in the world -- was 3:1 for the January-March period.

It was 4:1 by the end of May because Japan changed foreign currency deposits worth $21 billion into foreign securities.

Analysts say those securities were mostly U.S. Treasuries, judging from Federal Reserve data showing U.S. Treasury securities held in custody for foreign central banks rose by $23.6 billion in the month to May 26.

Zitat

"Japan has put itself in the position of main financier of the United States, and so far has not been able to get out of it," said Kazuo Mizuno, chief economist at Mitsubishi Securities.

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$184 oil?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3777413.stm

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GATA supporter Mark Lundeen’s efforts caught the attention of some press outside of Minnesota. However, to give you an idea of how far we have to go, take a gander not only what the Washington state press wrote, but far worse, what the director of the Northwest Mining Association had to say when she had her chance. Has she really ever read any of GATA’s evidence. The author of this article really did some kind of homework job – getting our name and web site address wrong. Talk about pathetic – from http://www.bulliondesk.com:

Federal Officials' Reply to Small Investors: No Collusion on Silver Prices

Source: The Spokesman-Review
Publication date: 2004-06-02
Arrival time: 2004-06-04

Rumors have a way of intensifying when metals prices are low, noted Laura Skaer, executive director of the Northwest Mining Association in Spokane. When gold slid below $300 per ounce between 1999 and 2002, the Gold Anti-Trust Action League and an accompanying Web site, gata.com, were born.

"There were really people who thought that Central Banks were manipulating the price of gold," Skaer said. "Obviously, it was a controversial view within the industry." With gold prices back near $400 per ounce, Skaer said she hears fewer rumors. Mining companies are able to attract the investors to raise money for new mine development and exploration at that price.

"People are too busy working to worry about whether the price of gold is being manipulated," Skaer said.

http://cnniw.yellowbrix.com/pa…nsp?story_id=52144074&ID=

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CARTEL CAPITULATION WATCH

Maybe they will do better in Wallace Street Journal country:

summit curtainraiser

Coeur d’Alene and Wallace, Idaho – A high-powered array of silver and silver-mining experts will anchor Silver Summit 2004, a conference focusing on investment opportunities in the North American silver sector Sept. 23-25 in Coeur d’Alene and Wallace, Idaho.

Confirmed headliners include Silver-Investor.com publisher David Morgan, Mogambo Guru publisher Richard Daughty, Goldismoney.com publisher Jason Hommel, Coeur d’Alene Mines CEO Dennis E. Wheeler and Hecla Mining Co. CEO Phillips S. Baker, Jr.

Numerous junior and senior exploration companies also will be represented, including Sterling Mining Co., operators of the legendary Sunshine silver mine, Mines Management, New Jersey Mining, and Trend Mining.

"Unlike most metal investment conferences, ours focuses exclusively on silver and the other white metals – PGMs. Another exclusive with Silver Summit is the opportunity for conference attendees to get outside the hotel lobby and see what precious metal mining is all about," said Marlene Young, executive director of the Summit-sponsoring Silver Valley Mining Association in Wallace, Idaho.

"This is an investment conference for those of the rest of us who wish to touch and tour operating precious metal mines and meet their CEOs one-on-one," Young said. "For three days in September, the world’s richest primary silver district will open its doors to the investing public. It’s one thing to talk about silver. It’s quite another to lay your hands upon it."

Last year’s inaugural Silver Summit drew more investors from Europe and Central, North and South America. This year, Young said, "based on pre-registrations and the caliber of our presenters, we expect at least 300 people. Beyond that, we will have to turn people away."

The conference is free to the first 300 registrants. The optional underground tours of one of the Silver Valley’s four operating primary silver mines – the Lucky Friday, Galena/Coeur, Bunker Hill or Golden Chest – command a tax-deductible donation of $100. Guided surface tours of the Coeur d’Alene Mining District, which include a luncheon at the historic Jameson Saloon, carriage rides through Wallace’s city-wide Historic District, and tours of museums and tourist mines, are available for $75.

Registration may be accomplished at http://www.thesilversummit.com. All proceeds inure to the benefit of the Silver Valley Mining Association (http://www.silverminers.org) for public education purposes.

For further information, please contact:
Marlene Young
Executive Director
Silver Valley Mining Association
414 Sixth Street
Wallace, ID 83873
208.556.1621
Email: silverminers@usamedia.tv

Some of Mahendra’s latest:

Dear Members/Bill,

Once again during the last week, we witnessed a situation in which volatility was rife in the prices of all major commodities including oil, wheat etc. This can be attributed to the fact that the moon was in the negative house, a positioning that always scares me. The presence of the Moon in the negative house usually signifies an important point for metals. In March, the Negative Moon forced metal prices to escalate (which means that it attempted to fool everybody especially in regard to Silver since this metal is ruled by the Moon). Therefore, the obvious deduction through simple logic is that whenever the moon is thus positioned, then the metals should not rise on the negative days. In defiance of this, there is the likelihood of 25 days of negative movement following such a rise. Last week during the negative Moon, metal prices went down (especially silver as it is 100% controlled by the Moon) but they stabilized once more on Friday after the Moon changed houses. Therefore, the (SILVER) Moon played a ‘spoil role’ for Gold last week. This is the reason for my being more positive on Gold for the short term as you will presently notice in this newsletter.

Let us see what is indicating for this week from 7 June to 11 June 2004:

COPPER:

Copper prices will remain without direction for this week and so I will not advise you to invest your money in it during this period. However, there is excitement ahead as we are steadily nearing the point at which there will be a 50% rise in the copper prices. I will give you the relevant update concerning this at the appropriate time.

For the last three years I have been advising all my clients and members to invest in Gold, Oil, Silver, Platinum, Palladium and stock market (only for 2003). Since last year I have also added copper to my list of preferred investment areas because I saw its rising when it was trading at around $72.

Hence, WATCH COPPER but don’t be in a hurry. There is no reason for haste as I will advise you to buy as soon as MARS gives me the appropriate indication.

STOCK MARKET:

The stock markets are dallying around the fringes of the worst circle. Soon they will be pulled inwards and they will be sucked into the central point. Once they are at this position, there will be a massive and vicious plunge that will wind up the story for many. Hard earned money will vanish in a flash, the paper value of companies will plummet and market capitalisation will collapse. Unfortunately it will be like a nightmare in which the game of powerful people (Government, big funds manipulators etc.) will be terminated. This will be a one sided war in which there will be no hope of winning, with stock prices tumbling to a low of 15 years. The USA STOCK MARKET will repeat JAPAN'S Nikki down ward trend and Trillions of dollars worth of wealth will disappear from balance-sheets almost like we delete data from a computer.

Though this will also affect the metal stocks, they will quickly rebound because there will be a rush for them as metal prices will be on rising. Metal stocks will be the safe haven where many will seek their refuge since they will be perceived to be the ‘real money’.

The market will remain very volatile during this week and I suggest that you do not buy something to gain 2 or 3%. In fact, you should promptly sell at this point if you are poised for a 2% loss because from this point, the maximum extent to which the market can rise is only 2%.

OTHER COMMODITIES:

Last week orange juice was my favourite and it performed well. I still hold the same prediction and I recommend that you buy orange Juice.

My recommendation for coffee has earned a good amount of money to a few of my clients and they stand to make even more after 4 days; but till then, it will remain volatile.

I have recommended Sugar in my book and time has come for it to rise. Therefore, be on WATCH for SUGAR during this week and one can buy on TUESDAY.

OIL:

The price of oil remained very volatile during the last week as predicted but they will stabilize this week. I will soon a give surprise on buying single in OIL, so wait for my alert news.

VENUS OCCULTATION ON 8 JUNE: I have received many email asking my prediction on Venus eclipse or for planet we can say occultation. It seem that many exciting about it but not me because I don't see any positive things happening and here is my prediction:

Result from retrograde Venus from 8th of June:

Negative results:

It is a planet for love, sex: People's mind will divert more toward sex and just sex. Real love will slowly disappear and younger generations will move more into physical relationship. Many medical companies, doctor's scientist will try to discover more new things on sex. Gay population will rise etc..

Venus try's to attract male but give negative results to old male's and females: Many new scandal involving big personalities will come out on sex abuse, old people will have health problem or depart in 2004 to 2006 (Sorry to say but yesterday a great person Ronald Reagan departed). 2004 to 2006 will have bad or shocking news on for big name.

Interested in beautiful and expensive articles, houses: Many big robbery's will take place, violence will destroy beautiful structure, building, bridges, and housing market will collapse.

Rule's greenery, tree and plants: Fire will destroy many forest, houses or towns.

On financial side: It will affect housing market, beauty product companies, will bring counterfeit note scandal in big way, Platinum prices will be affected in medium run, not good news Hollywood personalities and big budget film will be reject by audiences etc..

Positive Result:

It influence female more: Many female leader will come up (Sonia example because always planets they start giving result before they arrive), this is a good news for Mrs Clinton, many film on female oriented will come.

New medicine which will come out which will give pleasure to Gays.

Unique architectural design will come out,

Venus is enemy of Gold and silver and it is getting weaker from 8th June so after a century world will see or government may announce once again GOLD as a currency. 

I can thousand of positive and negative points on 8th June Venus but I think I will end here.

NOTE : Tomorrow is the Future and we all have to go through the future when it finally comes to pass. A few are scared to have a glimpse into the future because they do not believe in themselves. Nonetheless, we all structure all our present programs with the future in mind. For instance, a chairman of a corporation speaks of his company as at present, but also outlines their future programs and what they seek to accomplish.

BUT the future is hidden and whatever lies concealed can deliver either positive or negative results when it is finally revealed and this is usually attributed to luck. In astrology, the ninth house in the chart is the one that holds the future, but the future is hidden. I just try to see what the ninth house conceals and I tell you. Though it is unbelievable and untouchable you can feel it and tell; and that's what I am doing.

My new offer on newsletter is valid only till 30 June. I have offer a great discount for whole newslettter from $2850 to $190 after my wellwisher Bill advice.

Have a good week.

Thanks & God bless

MAHENDRA

http://www.mahendraprophecy.com

Gold's New Mission - to Cure And Save Lives

Sunday Times (Johannesburg)

June 6, 2004
Posted to the web June 6, 2004

Richard Bowen is on a mission. His aim is to develop gold-based drugs that could revolutionise the treatment of a variety of diseases, including cancer, HIV/Aids and malaria.

Bowen, who holds a doctorate in biological and medicinal chemistry, is head of the biomedical division of Project Autek at Mintek, the technology and research parastatal.

Autek is a joint venture between Mintek and the three main gold miners - Harmony, AngloGold Ashanti, and Gold Fields - to investigate industrial applications for gold. The three focus areas are catalysis, materials and biomedicine.

"The aim of Autek Biomed is to facilitate, initiate and undertake projects and development that will lead to the further exploitation of SA resources, including its precious metals," says Bowen.

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A heads-up from Chris Powell:

9:04p ET Sunday, June 6, 2004

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

Jason Hommell is back from the New York gold show and reports in his new silver share valuation commentary that three silver mining companies have joined Silver Standard Resources in holding some of their cash balances in metal: Sterling Mining, which took over the Sunshine Mining property in Idaho; Nevada Pacific Gold; and Endeavour Gold.

Hommell will be among the speakers at the 2004 WorldGold, PGM, and Diamond Investment Conference in Vancouver next Sunday. You can read his new commentary here:

http://www.goldismoney.com/ssr/SS37.html

CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

Like this one:

Hi Bill:

Well I did not hear it but my friends did - Le Metropole Cafe was mentioned on CBC last week. They, my friends, just remember the name mentioned and not particularly what was said. I sent another e-mail telling them you would be in Vancouver next weekend so I hope that they turn up or enquire if they can interview you.

Have a super time in Vancouver.

Best wishes to all of you.
Donna

Willis Osborne, President of Great Quest Metals Ltd, is quite happy with his recent results (TSX Venture Exchange: GQ) in their Kenieba concession in western Mali, West Africa.

Dutton likes Seabridge Gold, one of my favorites:

On Friday JM Dutton & Associates initiated coverage on Seabridge with a 1 year target of US$5.60 per share, or about 75% above Friday's trading price. In their report, JM Dutton estimated Seabridge's current asset value at US$10-12 per share.

In the June issue of Buyside magazine, JM Dutton & Associates was ranked the number one research firm in the U.S. over the past 12 months according to Integrity Research Associates. You can see the press release issued by JM Dutton on Seabridge at the following link:

http://home.businesswire.com/p…0040604005396&newsLang=en

Dutton's press release also provides a link to their website where you can find the full 22 page research report.

Seabridge closed today at $3.23, up 2 cents.

The gold shares were on the firm side all day long with the XAU gaining 1.37 to 88.84 and the HUI rising 3.07 to 196.91. While Seabridge has roared off its lows many of the other explorations and smaller gold companies continue to drift off into oblivion. Volume and interest has dried up. This should not last too much longer.

GATA BE IN IT TO WIN IT!

MIDAS

[Blockierte Grafik: http://www.goldseek.com/news/LemetropoleCafe/lmpc.jpg]

http://www.lemetropolecafe.com

CARTEL CAPITULATION WATCH

Appendix

The Gold Cartel is well represented:

Guess who's at super-secret Bilderberg meeting today

Italy hosts 50th-anniversary confab of mysterious society of world leaders
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Posted: June 4, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

The 50th anniversary conference of the elite Bilderberg group which many believe conspires semi-annually to foster global government is under way in Stresa, Italy.

The conference, which began yesterday and will run through Sunday, is being hosted at the Grand Hotel des Iles Borromees.

Since 1953, the Bilderberg group has convened government, business, academic and journalistic representatives from the U.S., Canada and Europe with the express purpose of exploring the future of the North Atlantic community.

According to sources that have penetrated the high-security meetings in the past, the Bilderberg meetings emphasize a globalist agenda and promote the idea that the notion of national sovereignty is antiquated and regressive.

'Shadowy aura'

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"It's officially described as a private gathering," noted a BBC report last year, "but with a guest list including the heads of European and American corporations, political leaders and a few intellectuals, it's one of the most influential organizations on the planet."

And according to a current BBC report on the conference in Stresa:

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"Not a word of what is said at Bilderberg meetings can be breathed outside. No reporters are invited in and while confidential minutes of meetings are taken, names are not noted. The shadowy aura extends further the anonymous answerphone message, for example; the fact that conference venues are kept secret. The group, which includes luminaries such as Henry Kissinger and former UK chancellor Kenneth Clarke, does not even have a website."

But, counter participants, the secrecy is not evidence of a grand conspiracy, but only an opportunity to speak frankly with other world leaders out of the limelight of press coverage and its inevitable repercussions.

Zitat

"There's absolutely nothing in it," argues the UK's Lord Denis Healey, one of the four founders of Bilderberg. "We never sought to reach a consensus on the big issues at Bilderberg," he told the BBC. "It's simply a place for discussion."

Here is the partial guest list of the current meeting obtained by WorldNetDaily which includes:

Senators John Edwards, D-N.C. and Jon Corzine, D-N.J., Henry Kissinger, Richard Perle, Melinda Gates (wife of Bill Gates), David Rockefeller, Timothy F. Geithner, president of the FederalReserve Bank of New York, Donald Graham, chairman and CEO of the Washington Post Company, and even Ralph Reed, former head of the Christian Coalition:

N - Auser, Svein - CEO, DnB NOR ASA; D - Ackermann, Josef - Chairman, Group Executive Committee, Deutsche Bank AG; I - Ambrosetti, Alfredo - Chairman, Abbrosetti Group; TR - Babacan, Ali - Minister of Economic Affairs; P - Balsemao, Francisco Pinto - Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA, SGPS, Former Prime Minister; ISR - Barnavie, Elie - Department of General History, Tel-Aviv University; I - Benedetti, Rodolfo De - CEO, CIR; I - Bernabe, Franco - Vice Chairman, Rothschild Europe; F - Beytout, Nicolas - Editor In Chief, Les Echos; INT - Bolkestein, Frits - Commissioner for the Internal Market, European Commission, former leader of Dutch right wing Liberal Party VVD;
USA - Boot, Max - Neoconservative, Council on foreign Relations, Features Editor, Wall Street Journal; CH - Borel, Daniel - Chairman, Logitech International S.A.; I - Bortoli, Ferrucio de - CEO, RCS Libri; S - Brock, Gunnar - CEO, Atlas Copco AB; GB - Browne, John - Group Chief Executive, BP plc; NL - Burgmans, Antony - Chairman, Unilever NV; F - Camus, Phillipe - CEO, European Aeronautic Defence and Space NV; I - Caracciolo, Lucio - Director, Limes Geopolitical Review; F - Castries, Henri de - Chairman, AXA Insurance; E - Cebrian, Juan Luis - CEO, PRISA (Spanish language media company), former Chairman, International Press Institute; TR - Cemal, Hasan - Senior Columnist, Milliyet Newspaper; GB - Clarke, Kenneth - Member of Parliament (Con.), Deputy Chairman, British American Tobacco; USA - Collins,
Timothy C - MD and CEO, Ripplewood Holdings LLC, Yale School of Management, Trilateral Commission; USA - Corzine, Jon S. - Senator (D, New Jersey), Chairman and CEO, Goldman Sachs; CH - Couchepin, Pascal - Former Swiss President, Head of Home affairs Dept.; GR - David, George A. - Chairman, Coca-Cola Hellenic Bottling Company SA; B - Dehaene, Jean-Luc - Former Prime Minister, Mayor of Vilvoorde; TR - Dervis, Kemal - Member of Parliament, former senior World bank official; GR - Diamantopoulou, Anna - Member of Parliament, former European Commissioner for Social Affairs; USA - Donilon, Thomas L - Vice-President, Fannie Mae, Council on Foreign Relations; I - Draghi, Mario - Vice Chairman and Managing Director, Goldman Sachs; USA -Edwards, John - Senator (D. North Carolina), Democratic Presidential Candidate; DK - Eldrup, Anders - Chairman, DONG gas company (becoming
privatised) A/S; DK - Federspiel, Ulrik - Ambassador to the USA; USA -
Feith, Douglas J. - Undersecretary for Policy, Department of Defense; I -
Galateri, Gabriele - Chairman, Mediobanca; USA - Gates, Melinda F. -
Co-Founder, Gates Foundation, wife of Bill Gates; USA - Geithner, Timothy F. - President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York; I - Giavazzi, Francesco - Professor of Economics, Bocconi University; adviser, world bank and European Central bank; IRL - Gleeson, Dermot - Chairman Allied Irish Bank Group (currently being investigated for personal and corporate tax evasion); USA - Graham, Donald E. - Chairman and CEO, Washington Post Company; USA - Haas, Richard N. - President, Council on Foreign Relations, former Director of Policy and Planning staff, State Department; NL - Halberstadt, Victor - Professor of Economics, Leiden University; B - Hansen, Jean-Pierre - Chairman, Suez Tractabel SA; S - Heikensten, Lars - Governor, Swedish Central Bank; USA - Holbrooke, Richard C - Vice Chairman, Perseus, former Director, Council on Foreign Relations, former Assistant Secretary of State; USA - Hubbard, Allen B - President E&A Industries; USA - Issacson, Walter - President and CEO, Aspen Institute; USA - Janow, Merit L. - Professor, International Economic Law and International Affairs, Columbia University; USA - Jordan, Vernon E. Senior Managing Director, Lazard Freres & Co LLC;
USA - Kagan, Robert - Senior Associate, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; GB - Kerr, John - Director, Shell, Rio Tinto, Scottish American Investment Trust; USA - Kissinger Henry A. - Chairman, Kissinger Associates Inc.; TR - Koc, Mustafa V. - Chairman, Koc Holdings AS; NL - Koenders, Bert (AG) - Member of Parliament, president, Parliamentary Network of the World Bank; USA - Kovner, Bruce - Chairman Caxton Associates LLC, Chairman, American Enterprise Institute; USA - Kravis, Henry R. - Founding Partner, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co., acquisitions financier; USA - Kravis, Marie Josee - Senoir Fellow, Hudson Institute Inc.; FIN - Lehtomaki, Paula - Minister of Foreigh Trade and Development; FIN - Lipponen, Paavo - Speaker
of Parliament; CHN - Long, Yongtu - Secretary General, Boao forum for Asia; P - Lopes, Pedro M. Santana - Mayor of Lisbon; USA - Luti, William J. - Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Near Eastern and South Asian Affairs; CDN - Lynch, Kevin G. - Deputy Minister, Department of Finance; USA - Mathews, Jessica T. - President, Carnegie Endowment for International War Peace; USA - McDonough, William J. - Chairman and CEO, Public Company Accounting Oversight Board, former president, Federal Reserve Bank of New York; CDN - McKenna, Frank - Counsel, McInnes Cooper, former premier of New Brunswick; I - Merlini, Cesare - Executive Vice Chairman, Council for the United States and Italy, Council on Foreign Relations, former director, Italian Institute for International Affairs; F - Montbrial, Thierry de - President, French Institute of International Relations; INT - Monti, Mario - Competition Commissioner, European Commission; USA - Mundie, Craig J. - Chief Technical Officer, Advanced Strategies and Policies, Microsoft
Corporation; N - Myklebust, Egil - Chairman, Scandinavian Airline System
(SAS); D - Naas, Matthias - Deputy Editor, Die Zeit; NL - Netherlands, HM
Queen Beatrix; GB - Neville-Jones, Pauline - Chairman, QuinetiQ (UK
privatized military research/services company), governor of the BBC,
Chairman Information Assurance Advisory Council, formar Chairman Joint
Intelligence Committee, former Managing Director NatWest Markets; USA - Nooyi, Indra K. - President and CEO, PepsiCo Inc.; PL - Olechowski, Andrzej - Leader, Civic Platform; FIN - Ollila, Jorma - Chairman, Nokia Corporation; INT - Padoa-Schioppa, Tommaso - Director, European Central Bank; CY - Pantelides, Leonidas - Ambassador to Greece; I - Passera, Corrado - CEO, Banca Intesa SpA; USA - Perle, Richard N. - Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research, former Likud policy adviser, former chair Defence Policy Board, former co-chairman, Hollinger Digital; B - Phillipe, HRH Prince; USA - Reed, Ralph E. - President, Century Strategies; CDN - Reisman, Heather - President and CEO, Indigo Books and Music Inc.; I - Riotta, Gianni - Editorialist, Corriere della Serra; USA - Rockefeller, David - Member JP Morgan International Council, Chairman, Council of the Americas; E - Riodriguez Inearte, Matias - Vice Chairman, Grupo Santander; USA - Ross, Dennis B - Director, The Washington Institute
for Near East Policy; D - Sandschneider, Eberhard - Director, Research
Institute, German Society for Foreign Policy; I - Scaroni, Paolo - CEO, Enel SpA; D - Schilly, Otto - Minister of the Interior; USA - Schnabel, Rockwell A. - Ambassador to the EU; A - Scholten, Rudolf - Director, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG; D - Schrempp, Jurgen E. - Chairman, DaimlerChrysler AG; E - Serra Rexach, Eduardo - Head, Real Institute Elcano; RUS - Shevtsova, Lilia - Senior Associate. Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; PL - Sikora, Slawomir - President and CEO, Citibank Handlowy; I - Siniscalo, Domenico - Director General Ministry of the Economy; P - Socrates, Jose - Member of Parliament; USA - Strmecki, Marin J. - Smith Richardson Foundation; B - Struye de Swielande, Dominique - Permanant repressentative of Belguim, NATO;
IRL - Sutherland, Peter D. - Chairman, Goldman Sachs International,
Chairman, BP plc; USA - Thornton, John L. - Chairman, Brookings Institution, Professor, Tsinghua University; I - Tremonti, Giulio - Minister of Economy and Finance; INT - Trichet, Jean-Claude - President, European Central Bank; I - Tronchetti Provera, Marco - Chairman and CEO, Pirelli SpA; N - Underdal, Arild - Rector, University of Oslo; CH - Vasella, Daniel L. - Chairman and CEO, Novartis AG; NL - Veer, Jeroen van der - Chairman, Committee of Managing Directors, Royal Dutch/Shell; GB - Verwaayen, Ben J. M. - CEO, British Telecom; former director, Lucent Technologies; I - Visco, Ignazio - Foriegn Affairs Manager, Banca D'Italia; INT - Vitorino, Antonio M. - Justice and Home Affairs Commissioner, European Union; INT - Vries, Gijs M. de - EU Counter Terrorism Co-ordinator; S - Wallenberg, Jacob - Chairman,
SEB investments (including biotech); Chairman, W Capital Management AB; D - Weber, Jurgen - Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Deutche Lufthansa AG; GB/USA - Weinberg, Peter - CEO, Goldman Sachs International; NL - Wijers, Hans - Chairman, AkzoNobel NV; D - Wissmann, Matthias - Member of Parliament; GB - Wolf, Martin H. - Associate Editor/Economic Commentator, The Financial Times; INT/USA - Wolfenson, James D. - President, The World Bank; RUS - Yavlinsky, Grigory A. - Member of Parliament; USA - Yergin,
Daniel - Chairman, Cambridge Energy Research Associates; D - Zumwinkel, Llaus - Chairman, Deutche Post Worldnet AG.

In addition, according to the Bilderberg.org website, two reporters
("rapporteurs") from the British publication The Economist will also be
attending: Gideon Rachman, Brussels correspondent, and Adrian D. Wooldridge, the magazine's foreign correspondent.

That may afford slightly more transparency than in the past. In 1998, British free-lance journalist Campbell Thomas attempted to cover the conference in Turnberry, Scotland, for the Daily Mail. Thomas began by
seeking the opinions of neighbors to the secret meeting being held nearby. One of those was a young woman who told him he was in the hotel's staff quarters and should leave immediately, which he did. A short while later, two local police officers arrested Thomas, who reportedly remained in custody for eight hours.

British journalist Jon Ronson, who is the author of a book on Bilderberg, had this to say:

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"I'm a sort of semi-conspiracy theorist when it comes to Bilderberg because I think they wouldn't go to that much trouble of having this incredibly expensive international conference every year and they'd go to all this trouble to keep themselves out of the press and be really secret and invite the world's most powerful people if it was just a chat and a game of golf, which is basically what they say it is. So I do think they have some impact on world affairs."

Some observers are even speculating that President Bush will make an appearance at this year's event, just as Bill Clinton did at the group's 2000 meeting. By coincidence, it just happens that Bush will be in Italy over the weekend.

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Karl

Du schliesst anscheinend öfters auf Grund Deines Wissens zum Gold, und Silber Geschehens, der Wirtschaft, der Politik etc., auf andere Leser, und User. Dabei scheinst Du davon auszugehen, dass die anderen Leser ebenfalls Deinen Informationsstand besitzen.

Dass jemand eine Meldung für so wichtig hält, dass er sie gleich in mehreren Treads postet, ist mehr ein Zeichen dafür, dass einzelne User beginnen sich ernsthaft mit unserem gemeinsamen Thema Gold und Silber zu befassen. Dies ist meiner Meinung nach eine Art von auch etwas gegen die heutigen Misstände, und Manipulation aktiv beizutragen.

Es mag ja sein, dass der eine, oder andere etwas viel kopiert, ich bin vermutlich selbst die Ursache dafür dass das so geworden ist, stört mich überhaupt nicht. Das dies "kindisch" sein soll, kann ich jedoch überhaupt nicht erkennen.

Meiner Meinung nach werden eher noch viel zu wenig wichtige Meldungen "Kopiert", jedoch viel zu viele manipulative und missbräuchliche Meldungen verbreitet, und was noch viel bedenklicher ist, von der überwiegenden Mehrheit der Anleger als eine Art von "Wahrheit" diskutiert.

Persönlich, und da unterscheiden wir uns eben stark, finde es sehr positiv, wenn andere User ebenfalls interessante Artikel in diesen Thread kopieren, auch wenn er allenfalls anderswo auch schon gepostet wurde. Wichtig scheint mir dabei nur, dass jeweil auch Quellenangaben gemacht werden, möglichst mit einer direkten Verlinkung auf die Meldung, damit jederman die Authentizität und das Erscheinungsdatum leicht selbst überprüfen kann.

Es werden fast täglich immer mehr Leser, und erfreulicherweise auch mehr aktive User, die sich in diesem Forum Informieren, und Ausdrücken wollen. Die einen wollen diskutieren, andere wiederum wollen sich nur eine eigene Meinung zum Wirtschafts-, Gold-, und Silber- Geschehen machen, und sind an solchen "Kopien" eben sehr interessiert, weil sie im Gegensatz zu uns selbst noch nicht wissen wo sie sie anderen Ortes im Internet lesen können, oder ganz einfach die Zeit nicht haben die Flut von Meldungen selbst zu recherchieren.

Gruss

ThaiGuru