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  • Why I'm not buying the U.S. dollar


    America's growing trade deficit is selling the nation out from under us.
    Here's a way to fix the problem -- and we need to do it now.


    By Warren E. Buffett, FORTUNE
    Oct. 26, 2003


    I'm about to deliver a warning regarding the U.S. trade deficit and also suggest a remedy for the problem. But first I need to mention two reasons you might want to be skeptical about what I say. To begin, my forecasting record with respect to macroeconomics is far from inspiring. For example, over the past two decades I was excessively fearful of inflation. More to the point at hand, I started way back in 1987 to publicly worry about our mounting trade deficits -- and, as you know, we've not only survived but also thrived. So on the trade front, score at least one "wolf" for me. Nevertheless, I am crying wolf again and this time backing it with Berkshire Hathaway's money. Through the spring of 2002, I had lived nearly 72 years without purchasing a foreign currency. Since then Berkshire has made significant investments in -- and today holds -- several currencies. I won't give you particulars; in fact, it is largely irrelevant which currencies they are. What does matter is the underlying point: To hold other currencies is to believe that the dollar will decline.


    Both as an American and as an investor, I actually hope these commitments prove to be a mistake. Any profits Berkshire might make from currency trading would pale against the losses the company and our shareholders, in other aspects of their lives, would incur from a plunging dollar.


    But as head of Berkshire Hathaway, I am in charge of investing its money in ways that make sense. And my reason for finally putting my money where my mouth has been so long is that our trade deficit has greatly worsened, to the point that our country's "net worth," so to speak, is now being transferred abroad at an alarming rate.


    A perpetuation of this transfer will lead to major trouble. To understand why, take a wildly fanciful trip with me to two isolated, side-by-side islands of equal size, Squanderville and Thriftville. Land is the only capital asset on these islands, and their communities are primitive, needing only food and producing only food. Working eight hours a day, in fact, each inhabitant can produce enough food to sustain himself or herself. And for a long time that's how things go along. On each island everybody works the prescribed eight hours a day, which means that each society is self-sufficient.


    Eventually, though, the industrious citizens of Thriftville decide to do some serious saving and investing, and they start to work 16 hours a day. In this mode they continue to live off the food they produce in eight hours of work but begin exporting an equal amount to their one and only trading outlet, Squanderville.


    The citizens of Squanderville are ecstatic about this turn of events, since they can now live their lives free from toil but eat as well as ever. Oh, yes, there's a quid pro quo -- but to the Squanders, it seems harmless: All that the Thrifts want in exchange for their food is Squanderbonds (which are denominated, naturally, in Squanderbucks).


    Over time Thriftville accumulates an enormous amount of these bonds, which at their core represent claim checks on the future output of Squanderville. A few pundits in Squanderville smell trouble coming. They foresee that for the Squanders both to eat and to pay off -- or simply service -- the debt they're piling up will eventually require them to work more than eight hours a day. But the residents of Squanderville are in no mood to listen to such doomsaying.


    Meanwhile, the citizens of Thriftville begin to get nervous. Just how good, they ask, are the IOUs of a shiftless island? So the Thrifts change strategy: Though they continue to hold some bonds, they sell most of them to Squanderville residents for Squanderbucks and use the proceeds to buy Squanderville land. And eventually the Thrifts own all of Squanderville.


    At that point, the Squanders are forced to deal with an ugly equation: They must now not only return to working eight hours a day in order to eat -- they have nothing left to trade -- but must also work additional hours to service their debt and pay Thriftville rent on the land so imprudently sold. In effect, Squanderville has been colonized by purchase rather than conquest.



    It can be argued, of course, that the present value of the future production that Squanderville must forever ship to Thriftville only equates to the production Thriftville initially gave up and that therefore both have received a fair deal. But since one generation of Squanders gets the free ride and future generations pay in perpetuity for it, there are -- in economist talk -- some pretty dramatic "intergenerational inequities."


    Let's think of it in terms of a family: Imagine that I, Warren Buffett, can get the suppliers of all that I consume in my lifetime to take Buffett family IOUs that are payable, in goods and services and with interest added, by my descendants. This scenario may be viewed as effecting an even trade between the Buffett family unit and its creditors. But the generations of Buffetts following me are not likely to applaud the deal (and, heaven forbid, may even attempt to welsh on it).


    Think again about those islands: Sooner or later the Squanderville government, facing ever greater payments to service debt, would decide to embrace highly inflationary policies -- that is, issue more Squanderbucks to dilute the value of each. After all, the government would reason, those irritating Squanderbonds are simply claims on specific numbers of Squanderbucks, not on bucks of specific value. In short, making Squanderbucks less valuable would ease the island's fiscal pain.


    That prospect is why I, were I a resident of Thriftville, would opt for direct ownership of Squanderville land rather than bonds of the island's government. Most governments find it much harder morally to seize foreign-owned property than they do to dilute the purchasing power of claim checks foreigners hold. Theft by stealth is preferred to theft by force.


    So what does all this island hopping have to do with the U.S.? Simply put, after World War II and up until the early 1970s we operated in the industrious Thriftville style, regularly selling more abroad than we purchased. We concurrently invested our surplus abroad, with the result that our net investment -- that is, our holdings of foreign assets less foreign holdings of U.S. assets -- increased (under methodology, since revised, that the government was then using) from $37 billion in 1950 to $68 billion in 1970. In those days, to sum up, our country's "net worth," viewed in totality, consisted of all the wealth within our borders plus a modest portion of the wealth in the rest of the world.


    Additionally, because the U.S. was in a net ownership position with respect to the rest of the world, we realized net investment income that, piled on top of our trade surplus, became a second source of investable funds. Our fiscal situation was thus similar to that of an individual who was both saving some of his salary and reinvesting the dividends from his existing nest egg.


    In the late 1970s the trade situation reversed, producing deficits that initially ran about 1 percent of GDP. That was hardly serious, particularly because net investment income remained positive. Indeed, with the power of compound interest working for us, our net ownership balance hit its high in 1980 at $360 billion.


    Since then, however, it's been all downhill, with the pace of decline rapidly accelerating in the past five years. Our annual trade deficit now exceeds 4 percent of GDP. Equally ominous, the rest of the world owns a staggering $2.5 trillion more of the U.S. than we own of other countries. Some of this $2.5 trillion is invested in claim checks -- U.S. bonds, both governmental and private -- and some in such assets as property and equity securities.


    In effect, our country has been behaving like an extraordinarily rich family that possesses an immense farm. In order to consume 4 percent more than we produce -- that's the trade deficit -- we have, day by day, been both selling pieces of the farm and increasing the mortgage on what we still own.


    To put the $2.5 trillion of net foreign ownership in perspective, contrast it with the $12 trillion value of publicly owned U.S. stocks or the equal amount of U.S. residential real estate or what I would estimate as a grand total of $50 trillion in national wealth. Those comparisons show that what's already been transferred abroad is meaningful -- in the area, for example, of 5 percent of our national wealth.


    More important, however, is that foreign ownership of our assets will grow at about $500 billion per year at the present trade-deficit level, which means that the deficit will be adding about one percentage point annually to foreigners' net ownership of our national wealth. As that ownership grows, so will the annual net investment income flowing out of this country. That will leave us paying ever-increasing dividends and interest to the world rather than being a net receiver of them, as in the past. We have entered the world of negative compounding -- goodbye pleasure, hello pain.


    We were taught in Economics 101 that countries could not for long sustain large, ever-growing trade deficits. At a point, so it was claimed, the spree of the consumption-happy nation would be braked by currency-rate adjustments and by the unwillingness of creditor countries to accept an endless flow of IOUs from the big spenders. And that's the way it has indeed worked for the rest of the world, as we can see by the abrupt shutoffs of credit that many profligate nations have suffered in recent decades.


    The U.S., however, enjoys special status. In effect, we can behave today as we wish because our past financial behavior was so exemplary -- and because we are so rich. Neither our capacity nor our intention to pay is questioned, and we continue to have a mountain of desirable assets to trade for consumables. In other words, our national credit card allows us to charge truly breathtaking amounts. But that card's credit line is not limitless.


    The time to halt this trading of assets for consumables is now, and I have a plan to suggest for getting it done. My remedy may sound gimmicky, and in truth it is a tariff called by another name. But this is a tariff that retains most free-market virtues, neither protecting specific industries nor punishing specific countries nor encouraging trade wars. This plan would increase our exports and might well lead to increased overall world trade. And it would balance our books without there being a significant decline in the value of the dollar, which I believe is otherwise almost certain to occur.


    We would achieve this balance by issuing what I will call Import Certificates (ICs) to all U.S. exporters in an amount equal to the dollar value of their exports. Each exporter would, in turn, sell the ICs to parties -- either exporters abroad or importers here -- wanting to get goods into the U.S. To import $1 million of goods, for example, an importer would need ICs that were the byproduct of $1 million of exports. The inevitable result: trade balance.


    Because our exports total about $80 billion a month, ICs would be issued in huge, equivalent quantities -- that is, 80 billion certificates a month -- and would surely trade in an exceptionally liquid market. Competition would then determine who among those parties wanting to sell to us would buy the certificates and how much they would pay. (I visualize that the certificates would be issued with a short life, possibly of six months, so that speculators would be discouraged from accumulating them.)


    For illustrative purposes, let's postulate that each IC would sell for 10 cents -- that is, 10 cents per dollar of exports behind them. Other things being equal, this amount would mean a U.S. producer could realize 10 percent more by selling his goods in the export market than by selling them domestically, with the extra 10 percent coming from his sales of ICs.


    In my opinion, many exporters would view this as a reduction in cost, one that would let them cut the prices of their products in international markets. Commodity-type products would particularly encourage this kind of behavior. If aluminum, for example, was selling for 66 cents per pound domestically and ICs were worth 10 percent, domestic aluminum producers could sell for about 60 cents per pound (plus transportation costs) in foreign markets and still earn normal margins. In this scenario, the output of the U.S. would become significantly more competitive and exports would expand. Along the way, the number of jobs would grow.


    Foreigners selling to us, of course, would face tougher economics. But that's a problem they're up against no matter what trade "solution" is adopted -- and make no mistake, a solution must come. (As Herb Stein said, "If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.") In one way the IC approach would give countries selling to us great flexibility, since the plan does not penalize any specific industry or product. In the end, the free market would determine what would be sold in the U.S. and who would sell it. The ICs would determine only the aggregate dollar volume of what was sold.


    To see what would happen to imports, let's look at a car now entering the U.S. at a cost to the importer of $20,000. Under the new plan and the assumption that ICs sell for 10 percent, the importer's cost would rise to $22,000. If demand for the car was exceptionally strong, the importer might manage to pass all of this on to the American consumer. In the usual case, however, competitive forces would take hold, requiring the foreign manufacturer to absorb some, if not all, of the $2,000 IC cost.


    There is no free lunch in the IC plan: It would have certain serious negative consequences for U.S. citizens. Prices of most imported products would increase, and so would the prices of certain competitive products manufactured domestically. The cost of the ICs, either in whole or in part, would therefore typically act as a tax on consumers.


    That is a serious drawback. But there would be drawbacks also to the dollar continuing to lose value or to our increasing tariffs on specific products or instituting quotas on them -- courses of action that in my opinion offer a smaller chance of success. Above all, the pain of higher prices on goods imported today dims beside the pain we will eventually suffer if we drift along and trade away ever larger portions of our country's net worth.


    I believe that ICs would produce, rather promptly, a U.S. trade equilibrium well above present export levels but below present import levels. The certificates would moderately aid all our industries in world competition, even as the free market determined which of them ultimately met the test of "comparative advantage."


    This plan would not be copied by nations that are net exporters, because their ICs would be valueless. Would major exporting countries retaliate in other ways? Would this start another Smoot-Hawley tariff war? Hardly. At the time of Smoot-Hawley we ran an unreasonable trade surplus that we wished to maintain. We now run a damaging deficit that the whole world knows we must correct.


    For decades the world has struggled with a shifting maze of punitive tariffs, export subsidies, quotas, dollar-locked currencies, and the like. Many of these import-inhibiting and export-encouraging devices have long been employed by major exporting countries trying to amass ever larger surpluses -- yet significant trade wars have not erupted. Surely one will not be precipitated by a proposal that simply aims at balancing the books of the world's largest trade debtor. Major exporting countries have behaved quite rationally in the past and they will continue to do so -- though, as always, it may be in their interest to attempt to convince us that they will behave otherwise.


    The likely outcome of an IC plan is that the exporting nations -- after some initial posturing -- will turn their ingenuity to encouraging imports from us. Take the position of China, which today sells us about $140 billion of goods and services annually while purchasing only $25 billion. Were ICs to exist, one course for China would be simply to fill the gap by buying 115 billion certificates annually. But it could alternatively reduce its need for ICs by cutting its exports to the U.S. or by increasing its purchases from us. This last choice would probably be the most palatable for China, and we should wish it to be so.


    If our exports were to increase and the supply of ICs were therefore to be enlarged, their market price would be driven down. Indeed, if our exports expanded sufficiently, ICs would be rendered valueless and the entire plan made moot. Presented with the power to make this happen, important exporting countries might quickly eliminate the mechanisms they now use to inhibit exports from us.


    Were we to install an IC plan, we might opt for some transition years in which we deliberately ran a relatively small deficit, a step that would enable the world to adjust as we gradually got where we need to be. Carrying this plan out, our government could either auction "bonus" ICs every month or simply give them, say, to less-developed countries needing to increase their exports. The latter course would deliver a form of foreign aid likely to be particularly effective and appreciated.


    I will close by reminding you again that I cried wolf once before. In general, the batting average of doomsayers in the U.S. is terrible. Our country has consistently made fools of those who were skeptical about either our economic potential or our resiliency. Many pessimistic seers simply underestimated the dynamism that has allowed us to overcome problems that once seemed ominous. We still have a truly remarkable country and economy.


    But I believe that in the trade deficit we also have a problem that is going to test all of our abilities to find a solution. A gently declining dollar will not provide the answer. True, it would reduce our trade deficit to a degree, but not by enough to halt the outflow of our country's net worth and the resulting growth in our investment-income deficit.


    Perhaps there are other solutions that make more sense than mine. However, wishful thinking -- and its usual companion, thumb sucking -- is not among them. From what I now see, action to halt the rapid outflow of our national wealth is called for, and ICs seem the least painful and most certain way to get the job done. Just keep remembering that this is not a small problem: For example, at the rate at which the rest of the world is now making net investments in the U.S., it could annually buy and sock away nearly 4 percent of our publicly traded stocks.


    In evaluating business options at Berkshire, my partner, Charles Munger, suggests that we pay close attention to his jocular wish: "All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I'll never go there." Framers of our trade policy should heed this caution -- and steer clear of Squanderville.


    FORTUNE editor at large Carol Loomis, who is a Berkshire Hathaway shareholder, worked with Warren Buffett on this article.


    http://www.pbs.org/wsw/news/fortunearticle_20031026_03.html

  • Interest Rates, Banks, Hedge Funds and the carry trade


    from "FoundingFather"


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    Al Green today said that banks are prepared for higher interest rates. He also said that deflation in no longer an issue. The Fed has become very sensitive to what they say in public due to potential market reaction. Over the years the Greenspan Fed has used the power of jawboning more than any other Fed in history. So much so, in fact, that one can easily come to the conclusion that if they say one thing, they mean the complete opposite. If they say the economy is doing "well" it's to quell any fears that it is not. When they say they are not worried about inflation it means they really are but don't want the market to worry. In fact, to listen to the Fed Chairman and Governors, almost all potential problems in the economy do not exist. If the dollar is strong it's good, if the dollar is weak it's good. Now we hear that deflation is no longer a worry at the very same time that some of the smartest and most experienced economist and investors are throwing up the Deflationary red flags. It seems AGs comments on Deflation and higher rates today was a way to keep the highly leveraged markets he created in line.


    Meanwhile...
    Seems like all the brokers are out the last couple of weeks defending banks and financials in a rising rate environment. Saying that financials are not interest rate sensitive. Utter nonsense - IMO.


    If anything, banks are more interest rate sensitive than ever before. The Fed has been pumping liquidity into the banking system. Traditionally this liquidity is used to make loans to spur economic growth. As loan growth has slowed banks look for other areas to plant their cash. Today we have banks funding new "operations" and trading areas to implement "carry trade" strategies. It shows up on the balance sheet as a new business division.
    The money is then placed into highly leveraged investments that earn the spread between short term rates and long term rates. This strategy has worked well until recently. The recent selloff in the bond market has been more pronounced in the shorter maturities. This contracts the spread as the yield curve flattens. This is important because it significantly reduces the flows of money into these leverage schemes. It is also important in that the longer maturity bonds lose value - putting more pressure on the trade.
    Over the last year, earnings from these type of "carry trade" investments have surged in banks, financials and other S&P 500 companies with finance divisions or sophisticated CFOs. The death of the carry trade will have a material effect on S&P earnings at best and at worst could spiral into a collapse of one or more large institutions.


    The other game banks are playing is the HEDGE FUND GAME. The mountain of liquidity is so large that there is still billions left over after loans and "carry trade" investments - especially with the Big Boy banks. Much of this excess liquidity is being funnelled into the hands of Hedge Fund managers as banks look to make higher returns. Remember how a hedge fund works - not only do they earn a flat percentage on assets managed ( 1- 1.5%) but also get a cut of their investment gains (10-25%). So if a hedge fund earns a 50% return they are entitled to keeping a good chunk of that money. So the game with hedge funds is to make BIG RETURNS. How does one make big returns? LEVERAGE, LEVERAGE, LEVERAGE. The find a play and leverage the shit out of it. If they are bullish on the stock market, not only do they buy stocks outright, they'll buy options, futures and use additional leverage (margin) to buy stocks. Same thing on the short side. The carry trade has not been missed by the Hedge Funds. They have been big participants in that pryamid scheme. The margin requirement on US Treasuries and Agencies is 10-15%. $1million can control $10million in US Treasury bonds. Hedge Fund footprints have been all over the financial markets. From the big rally in stocks and bonds to commodities, gold and silver.
    They are the riverboat gamblers of Wall Street and the Big Banks have given them a mountain of money to play with - courtesy of the Fed insanely pumping money into the banking system.


    The end result is pumped up stocks markets, bond markets and housing markets which make people "feel" richer despite less wages and less jobs.
    The statement that banks and financials are not interest rate sensitive is ignorant. The question remains - if things start to go bad, how fast will the banks yank their money from the wild world of Hedge Funds and the fabled "carry trade".


    It seems very possible to me that the parabolic rise in silver, and some internet/Nazdaq stocks in March/April could have represented a blow off top in the Hedge Fund leveraged game.


    Stocks like TASR, YHOO,ASKJ, MAMA, MACE and other would double and triple for no apparent reason. Silver went crazy as alot of "hot" money temporarily bought into the COMEX story. This all followed huge rises in other commodities (copper, steel, iron, beans).


    Right now we are seeing signs that the money may be being pulled out of the Hedge Funds. This could be a sign that liquidity is quickly drying up. TASR was down over 30pts today and many of the other "hot" stocks took dives. The commoditiy play is fizzling and the hot money is definately leaving silver.


    Perhaps this is how gold and silver get hit in the first stages of deflation as it comes after the last stage of blowoff hyper liquidity that takes all asset prices to extremes.


    today is another sign or symptom of an extremely overleveraged financial system that is dependent on ever increasing liquidity just to remain stable.


    China pulls the reigns in on liquidity and the markets are left gasping for air.
    Truly a nightmarish financial market. YTD the Fed has injected over $240billion dollars and mutual fund inflows are second only to 2000 Q1 and the markets go NOWHERE!


    The monstrocity called the global monetary system demands more and more liquidity to remain solvent and has us all blackmailed with the alternative - societial collapse.

  • The fake gold paper bubble supporting oil markets is beginning to fail....big battle just around corner that will expose dollar hyper-inflation and notional value....much at stake for financial system.....


    FACT: From 1776 - 1990 US debt (214 years) US public and private debt grew $13 trillion or on average $60,747,663,551 per year (almost $61B annual average).


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    FACT: From 1990 – 2004 over the past 14 years public and private debt grew $24 trillion or $1,714,285,714,285 ($1,714 Trillion) on average per year .... representing the greatest inflation ever known in the history of mankind.


    http://mwhodges.home.att.net/nat-debt/debt-nat.htm


    FACT: 2003 debt of $37 trillion was 437% of national income; the debt ratio in 1957 was 186%. If 2003 debt had been at the 1957 ratio said debt would have been $16 trillion, not $37 trillion - - indicating excess debt in America today of $21 trillion.


    FACT: US conducts commerce and exists in a credit buble economy, not a currency economy. We use fictional bubblicious digital money that has never been created and does not exist!


    FACT: Unservicable credit has become the defacto currency in America!


    FACT: US Federal Government debt is over $7+ trillion or $23,270+ per every living American man, woman and child and growing.


    FACT: America has become more a debt 'junkie' - - than ever before with total public and private debt of $37 trillion, or $128,560+ per man, woman and child.


    FACT: The monthly payment on $128,560 @ 6% interest for 30 years is: $770.78 per month per every living man, woman and child in America.


    The average family of four would owe a total of $3083.12 per month, due every month for the next 360 months (30 years) to pay off current debt levels!


    FACT: If we assume an average interest rate of 6% on the $37T of debt then the annual interest bill is over $1,900+ billion (almost $2 trillion).


    FACT: The increase in the total US money supply over the past 12 months was 'only' $420 billion.


    FACT: There is nowhere near enough money in existence to pay-off the current debt and there is nowhere near enough new money created each year to even pay the interest on the debt.


    Speculators Bet on Oil at $50 a Barrel by Summer


    http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....storyID=5004379


    Caveat Emptor/DYODD


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  • Originally Posted by Hypertiger


    Because the system is a construct of absolute capitalists which corrupts all...


    Alan Greenspan is a textbook case...Prior to his Chairmanship his writings were mostly a product of Altruistic logic...Now the system is his master and he is basicly forced to employ Absolute self indulgent reason...Responsible Altruistic logic would implode the system...Ultimately though the system is an absolute capitalist construct which is doomed to implosion since it is not based on reality/Truth...but fantasy/Lies...Truth is infinite and indestructible and lies are finite and fragile...The system to function must continually fight truth by replacing old self destructing lies with new ones...


    Sir Greenspan will be a text book basket case very soon ....


    AG - I knew the Keynesian system was self-destructive, and wrote about it years ago.


    AG - I knew the conversion of a Republic state to a welfare/warfare Socialist state needs to destroy money of intrinsic value, and wrote about it years ago.


    AG - I Knew and rubbed elbows with all the others that knew it too, they read my book.


    AG - But the power and the glory of being the most powerful banker in the world was alluring to me and I was at awe in the presents of the power elite.


    AG - The prestige and pompous authority drained me of my youthful altruistic logic; I was assimilated by TPTB - to silence my honesty.


    AG - I ascended the ranks of banking as I let go of my own integrity.


    AG - I thought I could control the uncontrollable - to easy the collapse I wrote about so many years ago.


    AG - My youthful intuition of Keynesian debt has come full circle to haunt my every thought. Telling me of my own corruption.


    AG – I knew and I did nothing to stop it ….


    “It does not take a majority to prevail…but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.” ~ Samuel Adams

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    Handelsvolumen bleibt dünn

    Schwacher Euro setzt Gold unter Druck


    Der schwächelnde Euro hat am Montag in Europa den Goldpreis unter Druck gesetzt. Allerdings blieben die Handelsvolumen wegen der Ferientage in Grossbritannien und Japan sehr dünn, sagte ein Händler.


    HB LONDON. Der am Montagnachmittag veröffentlichte und viel beachtete Konjunkturindex der US-Einkaufsmanager ISM hat im April entgegen den Erwartungen stagniert. Gleichzeitig legte der Beschäftigungsindex den sechsten Monat in Folge zu und blieb auf dem höchsten Stand seit Dezember 1987. Der Anstieg deute auf einen beschleunigten Stellenzuwachs hin, sagte ein Volkswirt. Ein stärker Dollar macht das in der US-Devise angeschriebene Gold für Anleger ausserhalb des Dollarraums teurer.


    Gold notierte zu Handelsschluss in Europa bei 388,10/389,90 Dollar je Feinunze nach 390,25/391,00 Dollar am Freitagabend. Wegen des Feiertags gab es in London heute im Laufe des Tages keine Fixings. Das Gold-Closing in London lautete auf 388,80 Dollar nach 388,50 Dollar am Freitagnachmittag.


    Eine Schweizer Grossbank gab den Gold-Kilopreis mit 16.122/16.372 (Vorabend 16.095/16.345) sfr an. Silber stieg stagnierte bei 6,05/6,07 Dollar von 6,07/6,10 Dollar am Freitagnachmittag.



    HANDELSBLATT, Montag, 03. Mai 2004, 18:28 Uhr

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    Rohstoffpreise:
    Spekulanten fliehen aus Rohstoffen


    Von unserem Korrespondenten DIETER CLAASSEN (Die Presse) 04.05.2004

    Maßnahmen Chinas gegen eine Überhitzung der Wirtschaft setzen den Rohstoffpreisen hart zu.


    London. Die von US-Notenbankchef Alan Greenspan angedeutete baldige Zinswende und der wieder erstarkende Dollar hatten den Welt-Rohstoffmärkten bereits Mitte April den ersten Schlag versetzt. In der vergangenen Woche brachte die Ankündigung "rigoroser Maßnahmen" Pekings gegen die Überhitzung der Wirtschaft insbesondere die Metallpreise zum Absturz.



    So notiert der Kupferpreis mittlerweile um 350 Dollar unter dem am 1. März erreichten Achtjahreshoch von über 3100 Dollar je Tonne, der für Nickel um gar 6000 Dollar unter dem jüngsten Rekord von 17.000 Dollar je Tonne.



    Besonders hart traf das "vorläufige Ende der Rohstoffhausse" (Times) die Edelmetalle. Der Goldpreis sackte mit vorübergehend 377 Dollar je Unze auf ein Fünfmonatstief gegenüber dem jüngsten Hoch von 433 Dollar ab, schloss vergangene Woche aber bereits wieder bei 388 Dollar. Silber musste gar 30 Prozent von seinem 16-Jahreshoch wieder abgeben. Der Platinpreis stürzte von einem 23-Jahreshoch von 934 Dollar auf 771 Dollar ab.



    "Bisher stammten die Verkäufe an den Terminmärkten fast ausschließlich von Spekulanten, die zum Ausgang eilen," relativiert ein Londoner Analyst den Einbruch. Auch Michael Lewis von der Deutschen Bank in London gibt sich gelassen. Die vorläufig wohl noch andauernde kräftige Nachfrage Chinas mache die jetzige Preiskorrektur bei den Metallen zu einem günstigen Einstiegspunkt für Anleger. Schließlich hinkt derzeit bei nahezu allen Metallen die weltweite Produktion hinter dem Verbrauch her.


    China nimmt inzwischen etwa ein Viertel des weltweiten Kupferangebots auf, ein Fünftel bei Nickel und Aluminium und gut ein Drittel der Welt-Stahlproduktion. Die Verbraucher an der Londoner Metallbörse, LME, nutzten daher schon jetzt die Preiseinbrüche für kräftige Zukäufe.


    Quelle: http://www.diepresse.com

  • asiaeco
    Autor: asia-economy
    13:01 | 03.05.04




    US-Finanzkrise aufgrund Chinas Finanzierungsproblematik?


    Obwohl China sich in den letzten Jahren gewandelt hat, war der Staat immer noch die Instanz welche am meisten Macht ausübte. In wirtschaftlicher Hinsicht scheint sich das Land zwar geöffnet zu haben, aber wenn man sich vor Augen führt zu welchen Kosten diese Öffnung vollzogen wurde, erkennt man die Probleme.


    Offiziell liegen die Schätzungen für die chinesische Staatsverschuldung bei rund 33 % seines BIP. Doch wie schon Winston Churchill sagte „glaube keiner Statistik, die du nicht selbst gefälscht hast“. Inoffiziell sieht die Finanzlage des chinesischen Staates viel schlechter aus. Nicht nur, dass China ein jährliches Defizit in Höhe von 3 % des BIP fährt, es versteckt auch einen großen Teil seiner Verschuldung (siehe Grafik).


    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.wallstreet-online.de/img/news/025/48/55]


    Insgesamt liegt die Verschuldung des chinesischen Staates damit bei 156 % des BIP


    Rechnet man mit Schätzungen privater Prüfer, so liegen die Problemkredite bei den Banken (NPL’s) mit 60 % und die ungedeckten Pensionsverbindlichkeiten mit 80 % des BIP noch wesentlich höher.


    Doch wie kam es zu dem starken Anstieg der Verschuldung?
    Nach den Wirtschaftsreformen des Jahres 1978 zog sich der Staat vielfach von seinen früheren Verpflichtungen zurück und räumte dem Privatsektor einen höheren Stellenwert ein. Trotzdem wurden über verschiedene Finanzierungstöpfe weiter „Geschenke“ an die staatlichen Unternehmen verteilt. Obwohl die Finanzierung offiziell den Namen Kredit trug, machten sich die Unternehmen bis Ende der 90er keine Gedanken über eine mögliche Rückzahlung. Erst als es vielfach zu Pleiten der so genannten TIC’s (Staatlich gestützte Infrastruktur- und Finanzierungsfonds) kam, die bekannteste war die in Hong Kong Aktiennotierte Guangdong International Trust Investment Corp. (GITIC), wurde ausländischen Banken und Kapitalgebern das Problem der chinesischen Problemkredite bewusst.


    China reagierte und rief zur Lösung des Problems vier Asset-Management Unternehmen ins Leben, die Problemkredite der Banken mit Hilfe von Staatsgeldern zum Nominalwert aufkaufen und versuchen durch eine Restrukturierung, zumeist in Form von debt/equity swaps (Tausch von Fremd- in Eigenkapital) einen Restwert, in der Regel etwa 20 % des früheren Volumens, zu erlösen.


    Die vier Asset-Manager sind:


    Huarong Asset Management = Industrial & Commercial Bank
    Cinda Asset Management = Agricultural Bank
    China Orient Asset Management = China Construction Bank
    China Great Wall Asset Management = Bank of China


    Aufgrund der Transaktionen dieser Asset Manager, bleiben diese auf einer Vielzahl mehr oder weniger erfolgreich restrukturierten Unternehmen sitzen und werden in Zukunft versuchen diese über den Kapitalmarkt zu veräußern, oder untereinander zu fusionieren um Liquidität für neue Projekte zu schaffen.


    Chinas Asset Manager spielen so die Rolle einer Investmentbank und dürften in Zukunft verstärkt international auftreten. Vielleicht schafft es eines dieser Unternehmen einmal in die Spitze der Investmentbanken. Verwunderlich wäre es jedenfalls nicht.


    Doch wie das Problem der Problemkredite lösen, wenn weiterhin enorme Summen in fragliche Projekte investiert werden?


    Der Economist schrieb in seiner letzten Ausgabe, dass China 4 USD benötigt, um 1 USD an zusätzlichem Wachstum zu erzeugen. Diese Zahl errechnet sich wenn man das Wirtschaftswachstum von 8-10 % ins Verhältnis zu den Investitionen in Höhe von über 40 % des BIP setzt. Vor 1997 betrug dieses Verhältnis noch eins zu zwei und beschleunigte sich seitdem unaufhörlich.


    Zum Vergleich, in Korea betrug die Investitionsquote während seines atemberaubenden Aufstiegs zur Industrienation während der 70er bei 25 % des BIP, so der Economist.


    Weiter hat China im letzten Jahr den unrühmlichen Platz Indiens, als „ineffizientester Investierer“ Asiens erreicht.


    Die Lösung des Staatsanleihenproblems liegt also in einer effizienteren Verteilung des Kapitals. Ein Balanceakt den China nur über die graduelle Liberalisierung und Öffnung seiner Finanzmärkte erreichen kann. Dazu gehört auch eine freie Anpassung der Wechselkurse und der Verkauf US-amerikanischer Staatsanleihen, die sich mittlerweile auf 400 Mrd. USD belaufen. Am effizientesten könnte China sein Verschuldungsproblem durch den Kauf von Gold lösen, welches zur Sicherung der Passiva der Zentralbank dienen könnte. Sollte der Goldpreis im Zuge einer Finanzkrise in den USA bis auf 1000 USD laufen, so wären die Probleme im Binnenmarkt Chinas nahezu vollständig gelöst.


    Ein solcher drastischer Schritt ist allerdings erst dann zu erwarten, wenn China seine Binnenkaufkraft stark gemacht hat und nicht mehr von Exporten abhängig ist.


    Eine Währungsaufwertung des RMB steht aber vermutlich unmittelbar bevor, wie auch Finanzgurus wie Sir John Templeton oder Warren Buffet es erwarten.

  • Goldvorräte schrumpfen immer weiter
    - Experten sehen große Chancen für die aussichtsreichen Felder Südamerikas


    Im Rohstoffbereich hat ein Boom begonnen, der Anlegern angesichts ausgereizter Aktien- und Bondmärkte eine interessante Alternative bietet. Der letzte große Aufwärtstrend der Rohstoffe - und damit der Minengesellschaften - ist schon eine Weile her: In den 60er und 70er Jahren, als die Wachstumsraten in den USA, Europa und Japan die Nachfrage anschoben. Das trieb die Preise, und die relativ hohen Inflationsraten in den Industriestaaten beschleunigten diesen Trend. Drei Faktoren beeinflussen also die langfristigen Rohstoffpreise: Wirtschaftswachstum und damit die Nachfrage sowie Förderkapazitäten und Inflationsraten.


    Alle drei Faktoren haben sich dank der Wachstumslokomotive China seit dem Jahr 2000 gedreht. Aufgrund dessen befindet sich Gold seit geraumer Zeit in einem langfristigen Aufwärtstrend. Der Hui-Index der nicht gehedgten Minen ist in den letzten 2,5 Jahren um über 450 Prozent gestiegen. Das Angebot an physischem Gold, sprich die jährliche Minenproduktion von 2.500 Tonnen und das recycelte Gold mit 500 Tonnen entsprechen insgesamt ca. 3.000 Tonnen. Und kann damit die Nachfrage von rund 4.000 Tonnen nicht mehr decken.



    Südamerika gewinnt an Bedeutung


    Denn es wird erwartet, dass die Goldproduktion in den nächsten 10 Jahren mindestens 30 Prozent zurückgehen wird. Grund dafür: die Exploration, also die Suche nach neuen Goldvorkommen, ist in den letzten 8 Jahren um etwa 70 Prozent gesunken. Wegen des niedrigen Goldpreises war die Exploration nicht mehr interessant und ging stark zurück. Neue Projekte, die in den nächsten Jahren in Produktion gehen können, gibt es nur wenige.
    Während aber die Suche nach neuen Rohstoffressourcen in einigen Ländern wie beispielsweise Südafrika auch aufgrund ungünstiger Währungsentwicklungen fast verebbte, ist in Südamerika und dabei insbesondere in Argentinien sowie Chile ein regelrechter Goldrausch wie einst in Alaska ausgebrochen.
    Und von diesem profitieren nicht nur die Branchenriesen wie beispielsweise der Weltmarktführer im Minensektor Anglo American (WKN 865254), der über seine argentinische Tochter Mincorp vor Ort vertreten ist. Ob Argentex Mining (WKN A0B9RY) in Argentinien oder International PBX Ventures (WKN558071) in Chile: besonders Juniorexplorer profitieren in beiden Ländern von exzellenten Investitionsbedingungen und äußerst niedrigen Betriebskosten. Selbst wenn der Goldpreis stärker sinken würde, lohnt sich trotz alledem noch der Abbau des Edelmetalls. Wovon wir aber nicht ausgehen



    Kurstreiber für Gold: Aufgestautes Inflationspotenzial in den USA


    Rohstoffe gelten als besonders empfindliches Messinstrument für Inflationsgefahren, weil sie sich - im Gegensatz zu Papiergeld - nicht nach Belieben vermehren lassen. Steigt die Geldmenge unverhältnismäßig schnell, ziehen die Rohstoffpreise als erste an. Darüber hinaus ist die bisherige Leitwährung der Welt, der US-Dollar fundamental schwach. Das US-Handelsbilanzdefizit beträgt über 500 Mrd. USD. Darüber liegt der Schuldenberg bei 34 Trillionen USD. Selbst Sir John Templeton, der berühmte Fondmanager, erwartet, dass der Dollar in naher Zukunft 40 Prozent fällt. Dank der Korrelation zwischen steigendem Goldpreis und sinkendem USD ist der Weg für das gelbe Edelmetall vorgezeichnet. Die Bewertung von Gold hat damit unserer Ansicht nach noch Luft bis 800 USD!



    Vielzahl von Anlagemöglichkeiten


    Anleger können von diesen Erkenntnissen auf unterschiedliche Art profitieren: Sie können physisches Gold, also Münzen und Barren kaufen. Eine andere Möglichkeit: sie investieren direkt in Aktien von Unternehmen, die Rohstoffe fördern bzw. nach neuen Vorkommen suchen. Dazu gehören Minen- und Explorationsgesellschaften. Diese Unternehmen, deren Papiere oft auch spesengünstig in Deutschland gehandelt werden können, profitieren in der Regel von steigenden Goldpreisen, ihre Kurse bewegen sich mit dem Goldpreis. Die sicherste Variante sind hierbei große etablierte Majors wie eben Anglo American, das eine Börsenbewertung von fast 31 Mrd. USD aufweist. Seit 1999 hat der Konzern allein rund 10 Mrd. USD für Akquisitionen ausgegeben!


    Daneben gibt es mittelgroße Unternehmen, die schon höheres Wachstumspotenzial bieten, wie etwa die 1990 gegründete Wheaton River (WKN 889191), die bei Kosten von 100 USD je Unze aktuell 400.000 Unzen Gold pro Jahr produzieren und demnächst mit IAMGOLD fusionieren. Das an der AMEX notierte Unternehmen wird an der Börse mit 1,3 Mrd. USD bewertet.


    Die spekulative Variante sind aufstrebende Juniorexplorationsfirmen wie eben Argentex Mining, deren Börsenwert deutlich unter 100 Mio. USD liegt. Hier sehen wir aber eindeutig die Gewinner im Goldminensegment. Da diese Firmen noch keinen Cash Flow generieren, schaut man sich an, wie die Unzen „under ground" bewertet sind. Und zurzeit liegt die Bewertung hier zwischen etwa 20 und 50 USD. Wenn man an höhere Goldpreise glaubt, sollten diesen kleinen Unternehmen die größte Hebelwirkung besitzen. Ist nun ein Explorer mit 30 USD je Unze „under ground“ bewertet und der Goldpreis steigt 100 USD, dürfte sich der Aktienkurs der Gesellschaft verdreifachen. Zusätzlich sind Explorer bei guten Bohrergebnissen allesamt Kandidaten für eine Übernahme durch die großen Goldproduzenten.



    Fazit


    Es steht außer Frage, dass Gold zur Absicherung gegen Inflationsrisiken, aber auch zur Wertanlage in jedes vernünftig ausgewogene Depot gehört. Clevere Investoren sollten sich also in diesem Sektor positionieren. Um spektakuläre Kursgewinne zu erzielen, geht nichts über kleine Explorationsfirmen, die nach neuen Edelmetallvorkommen suchen. Wer früh genug investiert, kann im Erfolgsfall dank der Hebelwirkung stattliche Gewinne verbuchen. Allerdings dürfte sich der weitere Anstieg von Gold - wie man aktuell sieht - nicht ohne Rückschläge vollziehen. Kursrückgänge betrachten wir aber als gute Kaufgelegenheiten.



    Kontakt:
    Bulle und Bär private equity AG
    Swiss Financial Report
    Yves Tölderer

  • Möchte mal die boardeigenen technischen Möglichkeiten etwas besser testen, und feststellen, ob man hier im Board auch kleine Programme zum Download anbieten kann.


    Downloads mit der Endung ZIP als Anhang, die nicht grösser als 200 Kilobyte sind, sind ja erlaubt.


    Hier unten als Versuch ein kleines, aber nützliches, und sehr, sehr einfach, per rechte Maustaste, zu bedienendes Programm zum verschlüsseln von Daten, oder Files. Das Programm ist übrigens Freeware, und läuft einwandfrei auf WIN95, WIN98, WIN98SE, WIN98ME, und WIN XP!


    Falls es funktionieren sollte, mit dem Download, dieses im Zip Format angehängten, garantiert "virenfreien" Programm, einfach abspeichern, entzippen, und per Doppelklick auf das Schlüsselsymbol installieren. Danach mit der rechten Maustaste auf irgend ein File im eigenen Computer, am besten mal ein Text File klicken (Bitte nicht im Windows Ordner), und Verschlüsseln wählen, Passwort eingeben, fertig.


    Falls mein Versuch nicht klappen sollte, gebe ich für diejenigen unter Euch, die daran Interesse haben sollten, noch den direkten Link zum gratis Download bekannt.


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

  • Hallo TG,


    haben wollen!! der entkrüppler funktioniert. also man kann damit dateien mit passwort versehen??? :D :D jetzt fängt der spass erst an bei mir hier! 8)


    DANKE! sowas hab ich immer gesucht auch wenn ich nicht wirklich gesucht habe (ich wusste gor net dass es sowas gibt ---> Angebot schafft Nachfrage!! = Ein Zeichen der Endzeit? )

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    http://www.reuters.com/finance…5019235&section=investing


    Hot Stocks

    North Atlantic shares jump on gold-mining results


    Mon May 3, 2004 02:55 PM ET

    TORONTO, May 3 (Reuters) - North Atlantic Nickel Corp (NAC.TO: Quote, Profile, Research) shares jumped almost 12 percent on Monday after the mining company reported favorable results from its Kantela gold-mining project in western Mali.


    Shares of Toronto-based North Atlantic rose 11.7 percent or 20 cents to C$1.90, before paring their gains to C$1.85 by mid afternoon. Volume was 254,000 shares, more than five times above their 90-day average of just over 45,000.


    "In terms of grade and thickness, the results are very positive," said Catherine Gignac, an analyst with Loewen, Ondaatje McCutcheon. "But to put this in perspective, this is still early stage and they need a lot more work done."


    Depending on future results, North Atlantic said they may delay planned drilling at another property southeast of Kantela, in favor of expanding the current project.


    Kantela, located in the Republic of Mali, West Africa, sits beside Sadiola, a gold mine already in production by AngloGold Ltd.(ANGJ.J: Quote, Profile, Research) and Iamgold Corp.(IAG.A: Quote, Profile, Research) .


    "If they find something economic, the economics of the project are a lot more favorable because you've already got a mine sitting next door," Gignac said.


    ($1=$1.37 Canadian)



    © Reuters 2004. All Rights Reserved.

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    http://www.nwherald.com/BusinessSection/284883620461286.php


    Monday, May 3, 2004


    Gold prices may rise


    BLOOMBERG NEWS


    Gold may rise this week, ending a five-week slide, amid speculation the Federal Reserve on Tuesday will hold target interest rates at a 45-year low, boosting the metal and driving the dollar lower, a Bloomberg survey shows.


    Twenty-seven of 34 traders, investors and strategists surveyed from Sydney to New York on Thursday and Friday advised buying gold. Six recommended selling, and one advised "hold."


    Gold had its biggest monthly drop in 19 years in April as the dollar rose against the euro on expectations the Fed will boost its benchmark rate as early as August. A rising U.S. currency erodes the appeal of gold as an alternative to other dollar-denominated assets. The metal touched a five-month low last week on the prospect that demand from China may decline.


    Zitat

    "I don't think the Fed will do anything to hurt the economy or hurt President Bush's chances of re-election,"


    said Jeffrey Ward, chief executive officer of Metallic Ventures Gold Inc., which started producing gold in Nevada in February after four years of development. "I would bet they won't do anything at least until after the election."


    Gold for June delivery rose as much as $2, or 0.5 percent to $389.50 an ounce on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange. The contract traded at $389.40 an ounce at 11:29 a.m. Sydney time. Gold for immediate delivery gained as much as $6.88, or 1.8 percent, to $393.88 an ounce, before falling back to $388.95 at 11:41 a.m. compared with $387 at 1:30 p.m. Friday in New York.


    The most-active contract fell 9.5 percent in April, the biggest such decline since July 1984. The metal fell 2.1 percent last week and 1.5 percent the previous week.


    "Some people have difficulty conceiving of a rate increase in a presidential election year," said Tim Evans, senior commodity analyst at IFR Markets in New York. "A weaker dollar and low interest rates, especially in an environment when the economy is growing: That combination is really ideal for gold."


    Evans gave a "buy" recommendation for gold after correctly predicting in the past two weekly Bloomberg surveys that the metal would fall. Most analysts had said bullion would increase.

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