Beiträge von keepitshort

    Echtsilber
    Bezug: 18.Feb08 time: 11:58


    Die Ursachen sind dieselben wie vor 2000 Jahren: Das Imperium gibt mehr Geld aus, als es einnimmt. Solange Roms Truppen reiche Länder ausplündern konnten, war das Imperium zahlungsfähig. Die USA haben zwei Weltkriege geführt, um ihre Staatsfinanzen zu sanieren. Mangels weiterer Inkasso-Möglichkeiten mußte Rom den verbliebenen Wert (also das Edelmetall) strecken, das heißt, immer schlechtere Münzen prägen. Die USA befolgen exakt dieses Rezept, indem sie auf den verbliebenen Wert (Wirtschaftskraft, Volksvermögen etc.) immer mehr Anteilsscheine (Dollar) ausgeben.


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    Buchempfehlung
    die Goldverschwörung Autor: Ferdinand Lips
    das Silberkomplott Autor: Reinhard Deutsch
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    hier noch was zu war-financing:


    FALLEN EMPIRE
    by Martin D. Weiss, Ph.D.
    Editor, Safe Money Report & MoneyandMarkets.com
    October 16, 2006
    http://www.financialsense.com/…ials/weiss/2006/1016.html



    Rome’s coffers were further drained by the cost of its vast standing army of 500,000.


    Plus, Rome dug itself into a financial hole with huge pension liabilities owed to a growing mass of retired soldiers and bureaucrats.


    And it was primarily the colossal spending to meet the growing Persian threat that forced the Roman government to seek new sources of revenues, which leads me to ...
    The third factor that drove Rome into ruin: Excessive taxation!



    P.S. : Auch die Deutsche Bundeswehr benötigt Geld
    für den Lufttransport nach Afghanistan

    auratico Bezug: date:15.02.2008 ,, time: 21:24



    Sollte der Bullenmarkt bei Gold anhalten, wird das Schicksal der Juniors wohl so ähnlich aussehen wie in dem untenstehenden Chart aus den 70/80er Jahren.


    Antwort:
    February 13, 2008
    Bullion or Mining Stocks - Do You Have the Right Mix?
    by Nick Barisheff



    http://www.safehaven.com/article-9464.htm
    ....
    During a secular bull market in precious metals that is driven by monetary factors, bullion tends to outperform mining stocks. This is because, globally, investors will turn to physical bullion as a safe haven, rather than to shares of mining companies. This phenomenon was confirmed in the 1970s gold bull market, when the US dollar experienced significant declines, just as it is today. The monthly closing prices of shares of Homestake Mining, the largest North American producer at that time, increased by a respectable 8 times. The monthly closing price of gold, however, increased by 15-fold.
    .......


    ?(
    I don´t know what to do ???

    http://www.investmentrarities.com/02-12-02.html



    the September, 1981 issue of the National Geographic Magazine. This is the issue that contains the finest article ever written on silver.



    get a copy of this article. The author, Allen Boraiko



    the article's title, by the way, is "Silver - A Mineral of Excellent Nature"





    wer kann mir helfe diesen Report vom September 1981
    zu finden


    jeder silver-bug würde wahrscheinlich gerne diesen Report lesen

    f) Die nahezu UNBEKANNTE PHYSISCHE INVESTOREN-nachfrage von Privaten weltweit und von asiatischen und arabischen Notenbanken und von verschwiegenen Instis wird hier ebenso wie bei GFMS und bei CPM mehr oder weniger ignoriert!! Ich würde diese auf wenigstens 5000 Tonnen p.a. schätzen





    hedge-fonds
    und
    Millionäre
    und die vielen Kleinanleger weltweit nicht vergessen


    http://www.moneyweek.com/file/…price-is-set-to-soar.html


    ....


    Huge Increase in Billionaires, Multi Millionaires and High Net Worth Individuals ( HNWI )
    There has been an unprecedented increase in wealth amongst a tiny segment of the population in recent years. The number of millionaires in the world is multiplying very rapidly and there are now approximately 9 million millionaires in the world. There are approximately 70,000 ultra-HNWIs who have a net worth of more than $30 million.


    .....


    Hedge Funds
    Globally, hedge fund’s speculative capital have doubled to more than $2 trillion (or two thousand billion) in the last three years. Some hedge funds have started moving into the silver market. Charles Supapodok of Artemis Capital Management is seeking to raise a $300 million hedge fund to invest mainly in silver. Artemis Silver Fund, advised by Artemis Capital Management, will put 80 percent of the fund's holdings in silver.


    ......

    Glückstaler
    # 15.Jan08,,, time 16:29



    die Berechnung des alten Höchsstands vom Goldpreis 1980
    inflation-adjusted in Dollar of the year 2008
    ist sehr interessant.


    Die wichtigen Faktoren sind jedoch


    Rohölpreis


    Benzinpreis


    Energiekosten (Strom, Heizkosten)


    Lebensmittel


    Kleidung


    und das Lohneinkommen im Verhältnis zum Aufwand
    wenn man als Leiharbeiter
    300 km entfernt vom Hauptwohnsitz arbeitet
    so finanzieren diese Typen über den Benzinpreis
    viele anderen mit.


    der Benzinpreis enthält in Deutschland ca. 70% Staatsabgaben


    die Ausgaben werden in Deutschland immer grösser


    Rentenversicherung


    Krankenversicherung


    diese Abgaben tragen auch zum Sozial-Inflaltions-Wahn bei,
    der in Deutschland seine Perfektion hat.


    Ich rauche und saufe
    und die anderen zahlen
    wenn ich krank werde.

    BAAL
    date: 14.Jan08 ,,, time: 00:51


    danke für die mathematische Herleitung


    im Computerzeitalter suchen wir hiefür die tools im Internet !!!


    y07m03d08
    http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hathaway030607.html


    CPI-inflation-calculator: http://www.shadowstats.com/inflation_calculator
    opent-content-for-all-our-readers:


    http://www.shadowstats.com/section/commentaries




    zur Ergänzung noch die real-rates:


    http://www.goldseiten.de/conte…/artikel.php?storyid=6140




    und als Ergänzung noch ein Beitrage irgendwo gehört:


    Schau dir die Zins- und Inflationskurven von damals an und ziehe deine Schlüsse.


    Aber prinzipiell gilt:


    Die "nominalen" Zinssätze, die du bei der Bank erhältst, spiegeln nicht das vollständige Bild wider. Die Inflation muss mit einbezogen werden.


    Wenn die Preise der Produkte, die man regelmäßig käuft, wie Nahrung, Benzin etc. um 5 % steigen und die Bank 5 % Zinsen gibt, ist das keine reelle Entschädigung.
    In diesem Fall würden Wirtschaftswissenschaftler den "realen" Zinssatz - den inflationsbereinigten Zinssatz - tatsächlich "maximal" mit Null beziffern.


    1979 lagen die Zinssätze für kurzfristige Anleihen bei 8 %, aber die Inflation lag bei 13 %, also lagen... die "realen" Zinssätze bei minus 5 % pro Jahr. Ist es da ein Wunder, dass die Leute Ihr Geld schnell im Goldmarkt anlegten, als Papiergeld zu halten?


    1981 aber hatte der damalige FED-Vorsitzende Paul Volker die Zinsen für die kurzfristige Anleihen bis auf 15 % erhöht und die Inflation damit auf 6 % gedrückt, also lag der Realzinssatz bei fast plus 9 %.
    Noch vor 1982 ging der Goldpreis auf unter 400 Dollar zurück. Logisch oder?


    Heute (Nov2007)steht der nominale Zinssatz in den USA ca. um die 4 %. Zur gleichen Zeit liegt die Inflation nominal ebenfalls bei ca. 4% … und von amtierenden Fed-Vorsitzende Ben Bernanke weiss man, dass er die Zinsen wahrscheinlich noch 2 bis 3-mal in den nächsten 6 Monaten senken wird (Inflation bleibt bei ca. 4,0% und die Zinsen werden gesenkt somit entstehen negative Realzinsen). Auf Teufel komm raus! Um das angeschlagene System weiter intakt zu halten und die Konjunktur wieder anspringen zu lassen. Das Geldmengenwachstum liegt bereits irgendwo zwischen 12-19%, nach verschiedenen Quellen. Also jenseits von Gut und Böse.


    Die "offiziellen" Realzinssätze liegen in USA aktuell also nahe Null … und viele Investitions-Gelder sind bereits vom Bargeld in Gold gewandert und es werden weiter Milliarden aus Dollar rausgehen.
    Das diese Massen an Geld nicht nur in Gold und Silber gehen, sondern auch in Euro, SFR, Yen und Yuan, sehen wir ja bereits.


    Sobald ein seriöser Notenbanker irgendwann mit der Inflation ernst macht und die Zinsen beherzt erhöht, wird das Gold zusammenbrechen, egal wie hoch es vorher gestanden hat. Aber im Moment sind wir meilenweit davon erntfernt.


    __________________
    Grüße
    Golden Earring


    ----- Diese Zeilen sind an alle "Verunsicherte" gerichtet, die in den Medien mit ihrer vermeintlichen Informationenfülle, die "aussagefähigen Informationen", vermissen.-----

    http://www.financialsense.com/Market/barbera/2006/0808.html


    Today's WrapUp by Frank Barbera 08.08.2006
    08-Aug-2006


    The Fed May Not Be Done


    As we see in the chart of Homestake Mining, from a January 2nd, 1973 low of $1.91, HM (Homestake-Mining) advanced to a high on August 19th, 1974 of $11.60, a gain of 507.32% in less than two years!!


    [Blockierte Grafik: http://www.financialsense.com/Market/barbera/2006/images/0808.h5.gif]



    time will tell

    April 06, 2007
    Gold, Silver, and Stock Bears
    by Adam Hamilton


    http://www.safehaven.com/article-7311.htm


    http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest_05/hamilton040607.html



    So while the Dow 30 shed 45% in 1973 and 1974, an enormous and devastating loss, did gold plunge in sympathy ??? like it did for a few days five weeks ago in the latest mini-panic??? Heck no! Gold soared in a majestic and powerful bull market and more than tripled while the general stocks swooned. The curious popular belief today that precious metals will suffer during a general-stock bear is a total myth, pure fabrication.

    es gibt da irgendwo im Internet einen Inflationsrechner
    da kann man dann 50.- US-Dollar von 1980
    in Dollars vom Jahr-2008 umrechnen.



    aber hier nochmal mal ein bischen inflation-history


    gibt ja genügend Beispiele für Inflation und Papiergeld


    hier mal ein Bezug zur Kriegsfinanzierung



    http://www.kitco.com/ind/Weber/dec052006.html


    That meant that after 1810 Gresham's Law had left America's monetary system in a mess. There were no US gold or silver coins and only the Spanish fractional silver coins circulated. This was to prove ruinous in the War of 1812. Not enough silver and no gold circulated, so individual banks printed paper money to finance the war. This caused horrible inflation. Prices soared by an average of 50% during the war. Worse, after August, 1814 banks did not have to pay out gold or silver at all if people holding the paper money came to ask for it. This act exacerbated the inflation, which in turned caused mal-investments (as it always does). And this resulted in America's first Depression, the Panic of 1819. The month of August, 1814 was terrible for America. This was the month where an invading British army entered Washington DC and burned the White House and Congress to the ground.

    repetition-drill
    silver-history
    trading-experience



    http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/baltin110606.html


    When silver passed $50 the COMEX officials first mandated that the margin requirements were raised to 100%, when that did not slow the market to their satisfaction they mandated that the exchange would only accept liquidation orders (selling-orders). This forced the longs to sell as no new long buy orders could be entered. The result of this rule change was that silver plummeted! It went limit down for a number of weeks on end before it again resumed trading in the mid-$30 range. The longs, who earlier had amassed substantial profits, were then faced with staggering losses as they could not exit their trades. They were locked in! Each contract consisted of 5,000 ounces of silver. Thus, when silver fell from over $50 to below $40, the losses amounted to over $50,000 per contract. Numerous individuals went bankrupt overnight. Will it ever happen again? You bet your life it will. It happened in sugar in the 70's, lumber in the 80's and most recently in Natural gas and was in reality the prime cause for Enron going bankrupt. However, when trading futures, recognize that one's losses are not limited to their margin requirements.

    vielleicht kannst Du mir hier weiterhelfen


    habe EDR.to Endeavour-silver stocks
    die laufen wirklich nicht so gut


    jetzt wollte ich 50% der EDR.to verkaufen
    und dafür 50% in XRC.V Exeter
    und 50% in RCT.V Rochester
    investieren


    bei XRC.V Exeter hat man allerdings das Argentinienrisiko


    würdest Du so einen deal machen ???



    also bei der EDR.to
    sieht die 200-Tage-Linie nicht so schön aus !!!

    repetition-drill
    silver-history


    wer diesen Bericht liest
    versteht die nachfolgenden Sätze besser.


    http://www.dollardaze.org/blog/?p=56


    Silver - Poor Man’s Gold
    By Mike Hewitt
    Published originally on Dollardaze.org on Nov 12, 2006.


    Mine production of new silver rose by only 4 percent from 1990 to 1999, while total fabrication demand increased by 22 percent during the same period. The main question for the silver market was the rate at which above-ground stocks of bullion and coins were being consumed by the widening gap between fabrication demand and conventional supply,

    time-will-tell



    The Industrial Scrimmage
    for Dwindling Supplies
    David Zurbuchen
    http://www.silverinscripture.com/IndustrialScrimmage.html



    As a precursor to this brief article, many of you may already be familiar with the dramatic
    rise in palladium prices over a four year period beginning in 1997. By the year 2001, the
    metal had risen from just above $100/oz to a high of $1100/oz. This was a result of
    industrial users (e.g. Ford Motor Company) panicking about a lack of supply and
    consequently building the necessary inventories so that factories would not need to be
    shut down. Silver should experience a similar price rise due to future industrial
    desperation, only unlike palladium, which has since cooled off, the industrial scrimmage
    for silver will be only one of many unique forces putting pressure on the price. This should
    then result in significantly higher (relative terms) and much longer sustained gains in silver.

    für viele von Euch ist dies reine Wiederholung
    von bereits bekannten Fakten




    http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/intersection.html


    The Silver Intersection
    Richard Karn
    the Emerging Trends Report
    November 3, 2006



    There is, however, some controversy regarding just how much of a price increase can be absorbed into manufacturers" cost structure and then just what substitution for silver would result. By way of examples of substitution, which is by no means exhaustive, stainless steel has long replaced sterling and silver-plated flatware, aluminum and rhodium have been used to replace silver in mirrors and other reflective surfaces, and tantalum in surgical plates, pins and sutures.[14] Aluminum has also been used as a substitute in some photovoltaic applications. Copper-phosphorus-antimony alloy has been used as a substitute for silver in brazing.[15] However, many primary applications of silver, such as photography, electroplating, printed circuitry and catalyst use in the plastics and petrochemical industries, simply do not have replacements at this point.

    A Little Something Called 'Epithermal Deposition'


    http://www.silverinscripture.com/articles.php?id=30





    Note: Platinum, Palladium, and Aluminum all have resource bases in excess of 100 years of production, and as such they are not displayed.


    If the U.S Geological Data can be trusted, then silver is the rarest of all the metals left in the world, in relative terms, with a maximum of 29 years left of production using current resource numbers. Many argue that a dramatic increase in the price of silver will soon be leveled with the ramping up of production. There are several problems with this argument, especially in light of the above data.

    http://www.silverbrothers.com/


    http://www.investmentrarities.com/01-04-05.html



    WEEKLY COMMENTARY
    January 4, 2005


    FRIEDMAN’S THEORY
    By Theodore Butler


    Also in silver we have a unique geological circumstance, known as "epithermal deposition", which holds that most of the silver in the earth’s crust was deposited near the surface. Consequently, there is less silver available the deeper you go. For a mineral (like-silver) mined and exploited for five thousand years,

    silver-history



    bei silverinscripture.com gibts echt gute Reports


    http://www.silverinscripture.com/archives.php#silver



    http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/zurbuchen112105.html



    Speaking of 1980, (the year silver peaked at $150/oz in inflated terms) in that year all the governments of the world could claim a collective silver stockpile of about 2 billion ounces. Today, the total world government supply has shrunk to an estimated 200 million ounces (Silver Survey 2004 pg. 32), an amazing 98% decrease in a period of just 25 years. It appears that the U.S wins the boobie prize in silver liquidation, as it has managed to sell the largest stockpile in the history of the world (6 billion ounces in 1930) in just 72 years. That's correct, the US stockpile ran dry in 2002, after systematically selling its silver into the market for over seven decades. In fact, the US government now has to purchase about 10 million ounces of silver every year in order mint its popular 1 ounce Silver Eagles.