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    The John Brimelow Report


    Time to buy (Thanks, FT)


    Friday, April 16, 2004


    Indian ex-duty premiums: AM $10.72, PM $10.66, with world gold at $399.60 and $399. Enormous; far above legal import point. So too are the premiums over world gold indicated by the Shanghai Gold Exchange. Perhaps these were the influences which enabled gold to push over $400 in the early hours of the morning NY time.


    With the yen stabilizing the flurry of interest on TOCOM is dying down. Volume dropped 42% to equal only 21,915 Comex lots, and open interest was static (up 107 Comex equivalent). (NY yesterday was estimated to have traded 63,000 lots.)


    Some of the dealer-commentators are beginning to temper their confidence in a further slide. Mitsui-Sydney says of yesterday:


    "Again last night gold was pressured to the downside, what was noticeable was a mixture of fund buying & selling. Some perhaps thinking we have found a floor…"


    A thought amplified by their London colleagues:


    "Heavy fund selling has been the feature of the week for gold and silver. We estimate one fund has liquidated close to 2mio ozs of gold over the past few sessions. The market is however holding key technical levels. 396 area basis June was the break out point on March 12, we have a long term trend line coming in at 394.70 and thereafter we have the 200 day moving average at 391.


    There has been two-way activity noted at the lows from the funds and…Further support is coming from buoyant physical demand…."


    A few of the technicians are also having second thoughts. Yesterday the JPMorgan Securities "Metals & Energy Technical Strategist" shorted gold:


    "Short Gold at 397 risking 403 targeting 380"


    Today they sound rueful:


    "a move back through 401 would suggest a squeeze could develop towards 407/410 before renewed weakness sets in…We suggested selling at market yesterday just in case the trendline break saw a rush of selling, but I guess in hindsight we have seen a big move already."


    Over the last couple of days, gold has been exhibiting the hall-mark signs of a large Predator short seller in position, with see-offs being seen after the London AM fix, before the Comex open, on the open, and particularly on the Comex close. Judging by the physical premiums, retreating from this short might be awkward.


    Notably falling silent is a noted gold bear, who merely circulated this morning’s euphoric FT anti gold editorial. See:


    http://news.ft.com/servlet/Con…420385759&p=1012571727126


    I will not be publishing on Monday.


    JB

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    April 16 - Gold $400.20 up $3.20 - Silver $7.12 up 6 cents


    Gold Firms As Spec Liquidation Continues


    Zitat

    The urgent moral priority of our time is to dismantle the warfare state, disarm the nukes, roll back the empire from every corner of the globe. We want to live in a country even a crazy man can head and not have it be dangerous for us or the world. If George or his successors want to play violent games, someone could just bring them a set of plastic army men and they could have at it all day in the West Wing. Let them live out their fantasies of death and dominion with toys rather than the real world...Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr, April 16, 2004


    GO GATA!!!


    The gold liquidation game is on with full force and fury. Yesterday, a flock of specs finally threw in the towel as the open interest fell a whopping 20,629 contracts to 269,943, still a very sizeable number. Gold came in lower today and then rallied sharply on a bout of short-covering by Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs. However, once gold got close to going up $6 on the day, The Gold Cartel instituted its $6 rule, as always, and gold fell back. By day’s end it managed to crawl back and close above the psychologically important $400 level.


    While a pain in the butt, this is standard operating procedure for gold. How many times over the past MANY months have I made mention that gold never runs right back up after a big price drop? Based on reports from the Comex floor, the open interest will drop significantly again as the funds were major sellers once more, while The Gold Cartel and other bullion dealers were seen covering.


    We saw the same in silver as its open interest fell a substantial 5696 contracts to 114,691. As silver has risen in price the past two sessions, its liquidation should be over.


    Silver has a couple of sizeable gaps to shoot for on the upside.


    Could we ever have dreamed up a more bullish scenario than we have for gold at the moment? In addition to a terrifying geopolitical scene, we have sharply rising inflation and a Fed who says it isn’t so almost on a daily basis, while backing their statements up by leaving our Fed Funds rate at 1%. This means our real interest rates are going more negative by the month, making the case to own gold ever more prudent.


    Copper regained its fire, closing at $1.3425 up 5.40 cents. May crude rose 17 more cents to $37.74 per barrel. The CRB recovered .65 to 277.52.

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    The Rothschild story: A golden era ends for a secretive dynasty This week NM Rothschild & Sons pulled out of trading in gold, the commodity that made their name in banking
    By Paul Vallely


    16 April 2004


    The news that the bankers Rothschild are to withdraw from the gold market, in which they have been a major player for two centuries, has been hailed as the end of an era.


    In one sense, of course, it is. This was the company that smuggled gold coins across the English Channel to finance the Duke of Wellington's advance through France to his final triumph at Waterloo over Napoleon (who, it turned out, had also borrowed money from the Rothschilds).


    But in another way it marks out the continuation of an even older tradition - the ability of the family which has founded one of the world's largest private banking dynasties to sustain their secretive fortune, which industry insiders count not in billions but in trillions, and keep it within the family.


    Secrecy has been a hallmark of the Rothschilds from the outset. Mayer Amschel Rothschild, the son of an itinerant money lender and goldsmith who settled in the Jewish ghetto in Frankfurt-am-Main in 1744, specialised not just in clever accounting practices but also kept secret books and subterranean vaults which he ensured were never the privy of auditor, lawyer or taxman.


    As the paterfamilias became more successful he despatched four of his five sons to different European capitals to take advantage of the rise of capitalism and the growth of international trade. Nathan he sent to London, James to Paris, Saloman to Vienna, and Carl to Naples, keeping the eldest, Amschel, at home with him in Prussia. Of these the two most important proved to be London and Paris, where the two main branches of the family developed a friendly rivalry, with the English branch developing the edge in business and the French in philanthropy, the arts and winemaking. But then in 1996 Amschel Rothschild, a 41-year-old man who had lived in the flamboyant style of many of his ancestors, hanged himself in a Paris hotel room. He was the Rothschild who had been groomed to take over as head of the English arm of the dynasty.


    So when the bank's chairman Sir Evelyn de Rothschild retired earlier this year the succession passed to the French side of the family. Baron David de Rothschild, who had been running the family's Paris-based bank, inherited.


    None of the Rothschild enterprises have been banks in the sense as understood by the man or woman in the street. What Mayer Rothschild founded in the 1760s was a business which grew from the humble beginning of selling rare coins to becoming the prime moneylender to greedy and spendthrift governments across Europe. One German contemporary quipped that Mayer was "the pride of Israel ... before whose money box kings and emperors humbly bow". And the novelist Thackeray said of Nathan that he was "not king of the Jews, but the Jew of the kings". The brothers financed both sides in the Napoleonic wars and in the Austro-Prussian war too.


    It has long been supposed that Nathan increased the family fortune 20-fold by speculating on the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo in 1815. The Rothschilds had a network of agents throughout Europe who, using fast boats, coded letters and carrier pigeons, got information to the family ahead of official sources. Victor Rothschild, third baron and former chairman of the London bank, N M Rothschild, always maintained that Nathan had made a killing by encouraging rumours that Wellington had lost when he knew he had won, though the historian Niall Ferguson in his magisterial history of the family recently disputed that.


    Certainly, for all the family motto of Concordia, Integritas, Industria (Unity, Integrity, Industry), Nathan's ability to depress stock prices by using the network of agents to spread rumours, true or false, and then buy the stock up after people panicked, was legendary.


    More significant, however, was that in the process the Rothschilds created the world of banking as we know it today. Nathan operated principally as an underwriter and speculator in the early 19th-century bond market. He and his brothers invented, or at any rate popularised, the government bond, which allowed investors, big and small, to buy bits of the debts of sovereign states by purchasing fixed-interest bearer bonds.


    Governments liked this because they could use them to raise colossal sums of money. Investors liked them because they could be traded - at prices that fluctuated in relation to the performance of the issuing government - and shrewd investors could make big sums. It brought investment in railways, the industrial revolution and ventures like the Suez Canal. The Rothschilds got a cut of everything.


    It was a new kind of power. "I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply," Nathan said. The family developed a lack of awe for the powerful and important. A pompous aristocrat one day called on Nathan who was head down at his desk. Without looking up, the banker said: "Take a chair." His caller, affronted, said: "You are speaking to the Prince of Thurn and Taxis." To which Rothschild replied: "Take two chairs." At one point he even rescued the Bank of England after a run on gold caused the collapse of 145 banks. In 1885 he was given the hereditary title of Baron Rothschild.


    Many of the distinct characteristics of the family can be traced back to the will of the founder Mayer Rothschild. It stipulated that no public inventory should be made of his estate; that key positions in the House of Rothschild were to be held by family members; that the eldest son should inherit unless the rest agreed otherwise; that the family was to intermarry with first and second cousins to keep the fortune together; that anyone disputing these terms would be struck from the will. And that all this should apply in perpetuity.


    In part this was about preserving not just their Jewish identity but a self-conscious position as role models for their poorer co-religionists. The Rothschilds expended much effort and money pressing for Jewish emancipation and equality across the continent.


    Their Jewish solidarity was not heterogeneous. In 1938 Nathan's great-great-grandson, Victor, shocked an audience by saying that in spite of "the slow murder of 600,000 people" on the continent "we probably all agree that there is something unsatisfactory in refugees encroaching on the privacy of our country, even for relatively short periods of time." And the family split over the question of the dream of a Jewish homeland, with some members supporting the first Zionist settlement in Palestine and the Balfour declaration and others opposing it on the grounds that it would encourage anti-Semites to question the existing national identities of assimilated Jews around the rest of the world. None of which has allayed the wild fears of anti-Semites who throughout the 20th century branded the Rothschilds as part of a Jewish plot to take over the world.


    The world has changed around the Rothschilds. At one point Nathan Rothschild was the richest man in Britain and probably in the world. In today's terms he was wealthier than Bill Gates. But they never gained the foothold in America they needed. The world became corporate. Private banking got left behind.


    Still, the family has moved down only from fabulously rich to enormously wealthy. And they adjusted to the times. They made billions in the 1980s from Margaret Thatcher's privatisations of state-owned industries on which they advised. In France after their bank was nationalised by the Socialist president Francois Mitterrand they slowly built a new business which, under Baron David de Rothschild, has risen to the top ranks of the merger and acquisition league tables. They have pulled out of retail fund management - into which they went with much fanfare only three years back - and now they are pulling out of oil and gold in favour of the higher-margin areas of private banking and wealth management.


    Do not spend too many tears. In 1997 the family's Swiss holding company increased its profits by 66 per cent. The firm is not called Rothschild Continuation for nothing.


    Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1743-1812), Founder of the family business


    Mayer, orphaned at the age of 12, was forced to make his own living with the help of the good name of his father in Frankfurt. He carved out a self-taught career as a dealer in coins and medals, branching out into state loans and trade in general commodities. He established the family name by placing a Roman eagle on a red shield (Rothschild in German) over the door of his counting house.


    Mayer established one of the Rothschild firm's principles: to settle for less profit to ensure long-term business ties. A brisk market in English textiles prompted him to send one of five sons, Nathan, to England.


    Jacob, 4th Baron Rothschild (b. 1936), Head of the English side of the family


    Chairman of NM Rothschild before resigning in 1980 to run Rothschild Investment Trust. He chaired the National Heritage Memorial Fund, handing out £1.2bn of lottery grants. He restored Waddesdon Manor, right, the family pile, and chairs Yad Hanadiv, the family foundation in Israel, which donated the Knesset and Supreme Court to the state


    David de Rothschild (b. 1942), Head of the French family


    The head of the French family, David de Rothschild has escaped two catastrophes in France: he was born in New York after the Luftwaffe seized the family home in Paris and his mother fled from Nazi Europe; and, in 1981, President Mitterrand nationalised the French financial empire, Banque Rothschild. David and his cousins started afresh with PO Gestion, renamed PO Banque and thenRothschild & Cie Banque.


    Seven Generations and two Centuries of Banking


    1760s The orphaned Mayer Amschel Rothschild starts a coins and medals business in Frankfurt


    1789 Mayer appointed an agent to William IX of Hanau


    1798 Mayer's son Nathan leaves Frankfurt to become a textile and general merchant in Manchester


    1812 Nathan's brother James establishes a banking house in Paris


    1815 The English branch of the Rothschilds supply gold to the Duke of Wellington's campaign at Waterloo


    1820 Nathan's brother settles in Vienna; his brother Carl starts a business in Naples


    1836 Nathan dies


    1840 NM Rothschild and Sons becomes one of the Bank of England's bullion brokers


    1850s Great houses are built. Bordeaux vineyards of Mouton and Lafite are acquired


    1875 Lionel de Rothschild raises finance for British stake in the Suez Canal


    1887 Rothschilds funds the creation of the diamond dealers De Beers


    1901 With no male heirs, the Frankfurt dynasty comes to an end


    1919 NM Rothschild & Sons chair new daily fixing of the gold price


    1926 The company finances the spread of the London Underground


    1929 Beginning of difficult years for family. Wall Street crash; rise of Nazi Europe


    1960s Rothschilds look to US; start of Rothschild Inc


    1981 France nationalises the highly successful Paris House but the family refuses defeat and starts new business.


    1985 Rothschilds advises on British Gas privatisation


    2004 An international banking dynasty, Rothschild have 40 countries worldwide

    bognair


    Die kannten diese Seite noch nicht einmal, als ich über Steganos Anonym hier heute zum erstemal rein bin. Neuerdings ist jetzt nicht nur mein Thread auf der Sperrliste sondern das ganze Forum.


    Habe das Foto vorher entfernt, hätte ich mir sparen können. Das Foto war nicht der Grund. Es liegt glaube ich an der Politik von surfonthesafeside.com. Die sperren "vordergründig" alles mit Diskussions-Boards etc. zu tun hat. Bin auch bei W:O inkl. altem ThaiGuru Thread kurz rein, interessanterweise ist aber nichts passiert. Vielleicht liegt diese Bevorzugung ja an den dortigen Werbekunden?


    Die allgemeinen Sperregeln beim "anonymen" von "Steganos Internet Anonym 5" verwendeten server:


    http://www.surfonthesafeside.com/policy.html


    Das Beste was http://www.goldseiten-forum.de machen könnte, wäre entweder die PC-Welt als Grossverteilerin, oder die Firma Steganos in Frankfurt am Main als Urheberin dieses, für Goldseiten.de massiv Kreditschädigende, und diskriminierende Programm in Deutschland zu verklagen.


    Allenfalls würde auch ein offener Brief gegen diese illegale Unterdrückung der Informationsfreiheit, bei gleichzeitiger Ruf, und Kreditschädigung, in einer grossen Tageszeitung veröffentlicht, die nötige Publizität verschaffen, die einem absolut pornographiefreien Bord wie diesem hier zusteht. Immerhin wird potentiell hunderttausenden von Personen, die dieses Gratis von PC-Welt verteilte Program erhalten haben, absolut unzutreffend am Bilschirm gesagt, es handle sich um ein pornographisches Board, und der Zutritt auf http://www.goldseiten-forum.de wird abgeblockt.


    Die Presse würde sich sicherlich auch mit dieser Angelegenheit etwas näher befassen, und ihr die nötige Publizität schenken. Dadurch würden die Themen rund ums Gold und Silber einem grösseren Personenkreis bekannt werden.


    Gruss


    Thaiguru

    Das ist ja wohl der Hammer!!!!


    Habe gerade ein neues Program "Steganos Internet Anonym 5", eine Testversion von der neusten PC-Welt CD, Ausgabe Mai 04 ausprobiert, das Verbindungen über verschiedene Server auf Seiten im Internet herstellt.


    Und dann plötzlich dies!


    Ob es wohl an den Themen Gold und Silber liegt die hier im Thread diskutiert werden?


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    PS: Habe sicherheitshalber die Seite mit der Sperrinformation wegen angeblicher Pornographie die hier zu finden sei, wie der Text suggeriert, abgespeichert! Das eine Foto mit dem blanken Busen, das ich vor Tagen mal gepostet habe, kann ja wohl nicht wirklich der der Grund für die Sperrung gewesen sein. Werde es trotzdem entfernen, um zu sehen ob`s dann wieder funktioniert, oder nicht. Fall einer der User, oder Leser hier die PC-Welt CD vorliegen hat, probiert es doch bitte mal aus. "Steganos Internet Anonym 5", installieren, danach Anonym surfen einschalten, und einfach in diesen Thread rein gehen. Der Filter hat meiner Ansicht nach eher auf irgenwelche Markannte Worte, wie FED, BOA, BuBa, Gold, Silber, oder andere Worte reagiert die hier im Thread diskutiert und verwendet werden.


    "Steganos Internet Anonym 5", sollte besser in "Steganos Internet Zensuriert" umbenannt werden!


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

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    CARTEL CAPITULATION WATCH


    The State Department ordered non-essential personnel out of Saudi Arabia. Not for nothing, crude oil closed at $37.57, up 85 cents, and is close to challenging its highs again.


    The DOW sold off on the Saudi news, going down 50 on the day, but as usual it came right back, closing at 10,398, up 19. The DOG did not fare as well, falling 23 to 2002. The S&P sure looks like it has put in a massive top:


    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/SW/X


    The CRB fell a little more than 2 points with soybeans leading the way down. They were bombed, with May going down the 50-cent limit to $9.63 per bushel.


    The dollar fell a bit to 90.36, down .20, while the euro rose .19 to 119.58.


    Bad news came early:


    April 15 (Bloomberg) -- The number of Americans filing initial claims for jobless benefits rose to 360,000 last week, a 30,000 increase that was the biggest in more than a year, the Labor Department reported in Washington.

    Claims had fallen to a three-year low of 330,000 the previous week, and claims have averaged 351,000 this year, down from 402,100 for all of 2003. The department said claims tend to be unusually volatile during the first week of a quarter and the Easter holidays, which coincided. The number of people continuing to draw benefits fell for a second week.


    Good news came later:


    April 15 (Bloomberg) -- Manufacturing in the Philadelphia region expanded at a faster pace this month as new orders and shipments improved, a Federal Reserve report showed.
    The Fed Bank of Philadelphia's April general economic index rose to 32.5 from 24.2 in March. A number greater than zero means a higher percentage of manufacturers surveyed reported that business improved rather than deteriorated. The index reached a 10- year high of 38.8 in January and has been above zero since June.


    GATA’s Mike Bolser:


    Repo Update: Fed gets serious, adds $17.25 Billion, pool rises to $40.53 Billion


    Hi Bill:


    The Federal Reserve added $17.25 Billion in repos against an expiration of $15 Billion, an action that moved the repo pool up to $40.53 Billion. After Monday's DOW dip I had been expecting something of this magnitude. It's not a Fed panic but it IS a firm up move in the pool designed no doubt to off-set recent DOW weakness. There isn't any question in my mind that the Fed will succeed in levitating the DOW to any point it chooses.


    That isn't true for the Fed's attempt to depress the price of precious metals. The crucial difference between the two is that the Fed can't print precious metal. That metal must be extracted, at great cost, from the ground.


    The Fed has admitted (by the rising 200-day DIVG moving average) that it can no longer hold the line on precious metals. That admission was made in the first part of January 2004 when it moved up past its previous high in a pure, linear retreat pattern. They also are forced to admit that inflation is no longer under control as evidenced by rising long-term interest rates (although the ten-year treasury needs to pierce 4.67% to be sure). While the Fed still may attempt to cap the DIVG 200-day ma (and this week's down move is a strong one) this Spring has the earmarks of a full retreat by the Fed.


    My DIVG prediction of 353 won't hold in absolute terms but we must wait to better examine the dwell points and where they cluster-that will take another five days.


    Rothschild's retreat


    They were an icon at the LBMA, providing the chairmanship that set the daily price of gold, the PM Fix and now they are withdrawing from the metals trade. There are many interpretations for this oddly timed action and I am not the best prepared person to analyze the development however, if we judges the timing alone, less than three months after the Fed's gold retreat commenced, then this departure portends very big gold events in the future. Those events may contain anything from draconian US/UK market closures coupled with prohibitions against gold ownership to a laissez-faire era of un manipulated gold prices. Whatever sequel comes, it will be big.


    Mike


    What else would you expect?


    Treasury Chief Unworried by Inflation


    4/15 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow said on Thursday he was not particularly worried about inflation pressures in the United States.


    Inflation is still modest, as reflected in (Wednesday's Labor Department report, and we have the lowest inflation in, what, 40, 45 years. So I'm not particularly concerned about it at this point," Snow said in an interview on CNBC Television.


    "I think there's still a lot of running room in this economy," he said, referring to excess capacity in U.S. factories and still-intense competition among businesses that kept companies from big price rises.


    The Labor Department said on Wednesday that its consumer price index, the most widely used gauge of U.S. inflation, rose a surprisingly large 0.5 percent in March, outstripping the 0.3 percent gain Wall Street expected. The closely watched core CPI, which strips out often-volatile food and energy costs, rose 0.4 percent, the biggest increase since November 2001.


    -END-


    What planet do the Bush Administration people live on?


    This is more like it:


    Bill;

    Little wonder economic reports of late are showing a "hot economy". IMHO this all stems from under reporting inflation in the US economy. The Feds have categorically admitted that PPI has no relevance and month to month comparisons are meaningless in their own recently published literature. CPI has for a long time simply measured the prices of things that do not change in price. We all need to remember that viewed in isolation inflation is by definition growth (the bad kind) -but only if you so choose to count it that way. By under reporting inflation (lying), retail sales are necessarily 'inflated' and GDP appears stronger since an inappropriate lower deflator is used. As such, 'bad growth' (inflation) is made to look like 'good growth' (productivity).


    This is why the price of precious metals must be kept under wraps by the central planners. When mainstream media sees a falling gold price they automatically report that "the market" does not view inflation as a problem and mitigates the need for higher interest rates in the near term. I have empirically witnessed this very type of reporting over the past few days with the assassination of the gold and silver prices.


    The 'chink' in the armor of this deception is that the central planners no longer have physical silver to allow them to force its price down. They only have fiat paper silver in reserve and this explains the disconnect between the fiat COMMEX price of metals and the physical world in places like India where Mr. Brimelow so apply reports that very significant premiums are being paid by people who wish to hold physical metal. The central planner's cover is being exposed and they know it - this is why they are 'throwing tantrums' trying to hammer the price of metals so harshly over the past few days. I reckon the jig is almost up!
    best
    Rob


    This too:


    The King Report

    M. Ramsey King Securities, Inc.

    Thursday April 15, 2004 – Issue 2897 "Independent View of the News"


    Higher-than-expected CPI shocked the markets. But again the reported CPI greatly understates inflation. BLS has energy up 1.9% in March, with gasoline up 5.5%. BLS has natural gas falling; the futures rose 6% in March. BLS want us to believe that food & beverage prices rose only 0.2% in March and only 1.5% over the past three months, with the CRB at 14-year highs. BLS has beef and veal down 2.5%, when cattle futures rose 7%! Housing costs increased 0.3% due to a 3.8% hike in hotel and lodging rates, the biggest increase since BLS began tracking them in 1997. BLS has used car & truck prices down 0.1% m/m and down 11.6% y/y. However, Manheim Auctions, the largest auto reseller in the world with millions of transaction/year states on their web site, "Used vehicle prices (on a mix, mileage, and seasonally-adjusted basis) moved sharply higher in March. The Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index stood at 106.6 for March, up 1.7% from February’s reading of 104.8. The Index is up 4% over the past year."


    http://manheimvalueindex.com/c…s/apr2004php-k3k5jk109ff/ http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm


    Manheim offers a devastating critique of BLS methodology in determining used vehicle prices. 1) BLS uses a limited sample; price is based on guidebook. Manheim uses all vehicle transactions, over 5m/year. BLS adjusts for ‘expected depreciation’. (Are you kidding? How many Street denizens know this?) BLS of course hedonically adjusts prices and uses a three-month moving average. Manheim refrains from adjusting real transactions.


    http://manheimvalueindex.com/c…jk109ff/comparisonCPI.php


    How many other items are inaccurately calculated by BLS? Probably most.


    Apparel prices increased 0.9%, but not seasonally adjusted it soared 4.1%. BLS cites the introduction of the spring-summer line. Yes, but what do consumers actually pay? Not seasonally adjusted CPI rose 0.6%. Where can we get a seasonally adjusted checkbook? Does your business have a seasonally adjusted cash register?


    BLS has ‘tenants’ & household insurance’ down 1.4% for the past 6 months and ‘water, sewer & trash collection’ prices down 1.1%. BLS believes food at home costs fell 0.2% over the past 3 months while all those commodities soared. Even more incredulously, BLS has dairy prices down 3.7% over the past 3 months; milk, cheese & butter are at or near record prices.


    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t02.htm


    Economic columnist Louis Uchitelle wrote in a December 1, 2003 article titled "Why Americans Must Keep Spending" that, "The Federal Reserve's "financial obligations ratio," which includes debt service as well as rent, auto leases, property taxes and homeowner insurance, comes in at 18 percent of disposable income. Both measures are at near-record levels, but not so high as to inhibit spending, thanks mainly to low interest rates." BLS has housing costs including rent at >32% of CPI. Who is wrong, the Fed or the BLS? Mr. Uchitelle also notes, "Personal consumption expenditures, adjusted for inflation, have risen since 1973 at a faster average annual rate than median household income, similarly adjusted for inflation: spending is up at a 3.2 percent annual rate versus a 0.5 percent increase in income, according to recent government data. As a result, a typical two-earner household with a $68,000 annual income today is earmarking 75 percent of it for such fixed costs as mortgage payments, child care, health insurance, cars and taxes. In the early 70's, only 54 percent of a typical household's $39,000 income went for the same expenses, the two authors maintain." As we keep averring, the megatrend is the continual diminution of US living standards and the middle class. And it’s reflected in the dollar.


    http://www.homeboundmortgage.c…ortgage2_Refinancing1.htm


    BLS allocates medical care at 6.074% of CPI, yet healthcare spending is 15%+ of GDP. Does BLS believe government and insurance companies pay the balance, so it’s ‘free’ to consumers?


    PG announced a 6% hike on coffee; Kimberley Clark raised Kleenex and Scott towels an avg. 6%. Guess they have a different view of the inflation rate.


    China faces a rice shortage as Asian rice prices have soared 25% to 33% since November.


    When inflation flared in the late ‘70s, Jimmy Carter’s economic chief, Alfred Kahn, instituted the ‘core’ concept to obfuscate inflation. Of course Wall St shills and Pols embraced this deceit. It helps sell paper. And pols can demogogue the elderly and swindle them at the same time…Ex-food and energy, you’re dead. Wall Street, the Fed and politicians what the public to ignore the costs of the essentials of life and focus on the core or the frivolties. Humankind from creation has needed food and energy but has survived without DRAMs and PCs for most of its history. PS – Kahn also garnered notoriety when he uttered the word ‘recession’ and took heat from Carter’s minions. Kahn then faceitously said he could no longer say ‘recession’, so he would instead use the word ‘banana’ to describe US economic conditions.


    Wall St tabletalk has the Fed raising rates in September and possibly in December. That will be too late. Many people assume the Fed won’t raise rate before the election. If the Fed does not raise rates in May, gold, silver, oil & gasoline could soar. Oil is the key. It could jump far north of $40 as the ‘drive season’ nears; Memorial Weekend being the start. Any Fed delay could ignite oil & gasoline. Then Bush could become Jimmy Carter. However Kerry is no Reagan and there is no Volcker in sight.


    -END-


    Yep, no inflation:


    Bill,

    In late 2001, I was involved in the acquisition of (and am a director of) a wood pallet manufacturing company headquartered in the US. It is, in fact, with fifteen manufacturing sites the largest of its kind (by about 2 and one-half times) in the country.


    I just received our March financial report. The good news is that March revenues were 15% above an aggressive budget. It was a record revenue month in the history of the company. (As a lot of 'mom and pop' organizations have struggled in the tough economy we have picked up market share.)


    The 'rub' is that even though revenues were up significantly, our operating cash flow was 8.5% below budget. Why? We're not 'buying market share' our average selling price per pallet was 6.8% above budget. What has happened (surprise, surprise!) is that our raw material costs have skyrocketed. Our primary raw materials are lumber and nails (steel). Get this. Our raw materials costs were up 6.1% since the prior month (Feb.), and...drumroll please...57.7% higher than the same month a year ago!


    But, of course, there is no inflation.


    Best,

    Joe Longino


    London’s Michael Coulson is one of the few in the establishment world who has been open to GATA. A few years ago he invited Reg Howe and I to London to speak at his Mining Analysts seminar. He has a new book coming out, ‘'An Insider's Guide to the Mining Sector'. You can learn more about it by going to:


    http://www.harriman-house.com/mining


    The odds favor today was a selling climax for both gold and silver. Silver closed higher after making a double bottom at $6.80 and the shares moved up for a change, ignoring the bullion price drop. The HUI held its 200-day moving average support and closed at 211.88, up a modest 2.68. The XAU gained 1.16 to 95.08.


    The Comex disconnect with the gold/silver physical market around the world should over be and done with. Thus, the gold/silver shares ought to wake up and accelerate to the upside!


    GATA BE IN IT TO WIN IT!

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    The John Brimelow Report


    Huge Indian premiums: still looks like a Bear trap to me


    Thursday, April 15, 2004


    In any market which is sophisticated – in other words where there is an ability to go long and short – a price swing creates the question: have the latest transactions been initiated by the short sellers or the longs; the Bears or the Bulls? Because, in every transaction, there is a buyer and seller.


    So this is where we are, once again, in gold. A Tuesday-Wednesday fall in gold of more than $20, on a volume of 216,000 contracts – 21.6Mm ozs! – 672 tonnes! - apparently only caused a liquidation (open interest reduction) of 14,851 contracts – 1.485 Mm ozs (46.2 tonnes) – further reduced if one takes into account the concommitant 5,912 Comex equivalent rise in TOCOM open interest.


    Clearly it is difficult to credit that a swing of this magnitude did not generate substantial long liquidation. If Open interest did not fall more, it must have been because new longs were willing to meet the selling.


    One must conclude that the gold market is now quite "short".


    The NM Rothschild decision to exit the gold market also deserves consideration. Prestige is worth a great deal in financial markets. This London Gold fix took place in their offices. Exiting to this extent – did any one care how many traders they had in Australia? – is odd. Anyway, combined with the humiliatingly subservient behaviour of the Bank of France, and all the consequent publicity, it must be concluded that gold has suffered status blows this week similar to the BOE sale announcement in ’99 and the Swiss sale announcement in ’97.


    So the question is: why is not gold lower?


    JB

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    April 15 - Gold $397 down $2.10 - Silver $7.06 up 7 cents


    Gold/Silver Washout Is Over!


    I want to be sure that he is a ruthless son of a bitch, that he will do what he is told, that every income tax return I want to see, I see. That he will go after our enemies and not go after our friends. Now it's as simple as that. If he isn't, he doesn't get the job... Richard Nixon, in an Oval Office conversation with the White House Chief of Staff and the chief Domestic Policy Advisor, on May 13, 1971, describing the kind of person he wanted as commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service.


    GO GATA!!!!


    There is almost a total disconnect between the physical gold/silver markets and Comex. You would think by the action this past week that gold and silver were having trouble being given away. Nothing could be further from the truth.


    First of all, the Indian premiums that John Brimelow (see below) brings to our attention are staggering. In addition, I received confirmation today that Saudi Arabia is buying gold in Europe. They are selling euros to do so, which could have put some pressure on the euro itself as of late. Seems the Saudis want to follow the lead of the Chinese and diversify into precious metals. They also are receiving more money for their oil buy selling the euro, which props up the dollar. The Saudis receive dollars for their oil as you all know.


    Massive fund selling hit the gold market again all day. Café sources say the fund selling was greater today evan than it was on Tuesday and Wednesday. Morgan Stanley was a featured buyer. However, strangely enough the open interest is not reflecting mass liquidation as of yet. Yesterday, it only fell 4572 contracts to 290,572. Considering the size of the open interest and the magnitude of gold’s fall, one might have expected a drop of 15,000 contracts. This tells us new buyers are entering the fray on the big plunge and that The Gold Cartel is not covering shorts as one would have thought. Maybe the Morgan buying was the start of it today?


    The morning London Fix was $405.75. Once Comex swung into action the PM Fix fell to $397.75, a rather remarkable difference.


    At one point today, gold was trampled down to $394.80. Gold is now very oversold. We should have seen the worst of it with that print. With the cash markets this much on fire, it is hard for me to not see gold going right back up again to challenge $430.


    Silver sold off early to $6.82 and then reversed course. Somehow Morgan Stanley managed to cover its shorts and is now long, looking for a move back up to $7.40.


    Astonishingly, the silver open interest went UP yesterday, rising 3382 contracts to 120,387. Once again, one would have expected a huge DROP after the beating silver took the past two sessions.


    What is this increase telling us? It is either very bullish, or very bearish. Naturally, knowing what we know about the tightness in the physical market, I think it is very bullish. While various funds liquidated, there were others out there who couldn’t wait to jump on board on the dip. Silver ought to have a $10 handle on it sometime in May.

    Gold Is Heading to $480 NOW

    Author: Jim Sinclair



    In my opinion the price of gold is headed to $480 and NOW!


    Before we get to why gold is heading for a new high, we need to look at why gold has suffered this reaction and if it is over.


    Gold is down for the following reasons:


    An easing of extreme tensions in Iraq
    Positive econamic reports resulting in a rally in the UD Dollar
    An extreme decline in the US bond market, indicating the possibility that the Federal Reserve might act sooner than later in admitting that the shortest term interest rates are not at 1%.


    Tensions in Iraq Ease?


    Please obtain a copy of the April 19th issue of Time Magazine and open it to page 46. The article is titled, “New Thugs on the Block.” Now go to the second paragraph of this article that starts by saying, “When political ambition coincides with popular delusion, the mix can be combustible.”


    One man’s delusion is another man’s FAITH. Western people of the Judeo-Christian tradition simply have no clue about the Islamic mind. They consider the beliefs of these people as popular delusions and have little understanding that they are walking directly into a trap set by bin Laden.


    The United States has been easy prey to set up because our military response is totally predicable. No one - not even the martial cleric, Muqtada al-Sadr, holed up in Najaf - really expects to beat more than 3000 marines. What the strategy is - and it is working - is to goad the US into killing more of the “New Thugs on the block.” The real fighters will make a hasty retreat and very soon do a repeat performance.


    The hustling away of the cleric second to al Sadr - which was shown on national TV of every nationality - was logical but has cost us dearly. The killing of the Hamas martial cleric by Israel was logical but will cost us dearly too.


    One man’s delusion is another man’s faith and we are walking in harm’s way today more than ever before in the history of the modern world. Up to now the holders of the many suitcase nuclear devices restrained themselves because of fear of terrible retribution that would occur. Now in Iraq they see the strength of the US and it looks tolerable for the next step which is the “Sum of All Fears.”


    Should the unthinkable occur, it will likely take place in the Middle East against the allies of the US. Turkey and Spain are not without risk. Yet, as such possibilities are undeniably there, France and Germany legislate against the wearing of the burka or traditional Islamic garb worn by women. What is one woman’s delusion is another woman’s faith.


    The easing of problems in Iraq is only one moment of pleasure bordered on each side by moments of pain. What will come in this drama is orders of magnitude worse than we have experienced so far. The handing over of government in Iraq is the handing over of the window dressing of government to individuals who are allied with the West and will be viewed as traitors by the opposition.


    The fact that Iraqi forces refused to fight in the battle against al Sadr should tell you how ineffectual the new government of Iraq will be without US forces acting as their protectors. Therefore, nothing changes. Rather than things getting better they are in fact getting worse but the Western mind cannot understand that what we call delusion is the faith of the opposition for which they are willing to die.


    The battles last week appeared to have been primarily in Fullujah but they were not. Many cities in Iraq remain engaged and all are potentially explosive. To not own gold now is simply silly for those with the knowledge.


    Positive US Economic Reports Produce Rally in the dollar


    As I have already mentioned, the games being played with economic figures are manifested by the new numbers and revisions put out by the US Secretary of Labor, resulting in the improved state of employment.


    Regardless of the blatant adjustment of indicators to underscore economic recovery, once it is embraced by the true believers it becomes truth. Many men with the same delusion constitutes a very strong faith and the economic numbers become the truth.


    Yet, as I have told you, the currency trading crowd cannot be fooled for long and the dollar has touched the lower level of this rally price objective which was .91 to .92. It is quite possible that the “Fat Lady has Sung’ for the dollar.


    Regardless, the real message here is if the economy is in fact moving forward at a time when the prices of commodities are setting new recovery highs, inflation is guaranteed. That is not dollar positive. As the dollar goes so goes gold except in the case of the sum of all fears. In any event, the dollar rally is getting stretched and tired.


    The Extreme Breakdown in the US Bond Market


    The bust in the bond market was a no brainer when the Japanese announced that their over-the-top outrageous buying of US Treasuries was no longer going to happen in the same manner. With the Japanese out of the bond market, it had only one way to go and that was down. It will continue that way until the Japanese get back – if indeed they do. The long bond has $104 written on it.


    Higher interest rates are an integral part of a long term bull market in gold; higher rates offend gold only when they are part of a policy shift towards deflation, a most unlikely event now. So the gold market has discounted any Fed action right here and now quite thoroughly.


    Keep in mind that this is an election year where geopolitics have turned significantly against the incumbent. If the Fed became enthusiastic in raising rates, then the present administration would be among the unemployed in 2005. That makes it unlikely that a Fed that invited the Japanese to do the unthinkable in the world bond market will probably invite them back around 104 on the long bond.


    Therefore I can only conclude that the reason gold flopped is the nature of the instant gratification players that can be run ragged by a stone pro with big guts. Today, the big shot that paid $414 barfed the last of the position into the market at and below $400. So there is the man who sold the low.


    Gold will have to eat some more margin busted account selling but it will. In my opinion this is the low territory before $480. Gold will go higher because we are within the framework of a long term bull market in gold that has in fact become firmer with the bond market break.


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    Warren


    Wie schon gesagt betreibe ich Daytrading nur am SET in Thailand.


    Paralell dazu habe ich diverse Langzeitinvestments getätigt.


    Bis vor einem Jahr war die Unterbewertung von vielen Aktien am SET gradezu paradiesisch. Heute sind bereits sehr viele am SETgehandelte Titel gegnüber dem selben Zeitpunkt im letzten Jahr, extrem gestiegen.
    Der Rahm ist abgeschöpft, könnte man sagen. Vor drei Jahren am SET waren die Möglichkeiten sogar nicht nur paradiesisch, sondern auch noch Grotesk.


    Jeder sich einigermasen mit Fundamentaldaten auskennende Anleger, hat in den vergangenen 3 Jahren sein Anlagekapital am SET leicht verdreifachen können. Ich habe jede von mir ausgesuchte Thai Aktie aus fundamentaler Sicht anayisiert, die Billanzen der Firmen auseinander genommen, und erst danach investiert. Leider gibt es aber am SET auch viel "unschönes" und so wurde, und wird immer noch, von nicht wenigen Thai Firmen bisweilen mehr als nur Bilanzbeschönigung betrieben. Insider Trading ist ebenfalls nicht die Ausnahme. Vermutlich resultiert daraus auch der schlechte Ruf bei den ausländischen Anlegern.


    Trotzdem, wer das "Spiel" an der Börse in Thailand kennt, und begreift, Rückschläge durch "Unschönes" verkraften gewillt ist, wird zusammen mit einer guten fundamentalen, und charttechnischen Analyse, sehr gut profitieren können. Heute nicht mehr arg so stark wie noch im letzten Jahr, aber trotzdem noch interessant.


    Nach einem Abschluss der jetzt bereits seit ende Januar anhaltenden Konsolidierung am SET, dürfte es wieder interessanter werden hier.


    Die Thai Börse ist fundamental gesehen bei weitem nicht so überbewertet wie die amerikanischen, oder europäischen Börsen, und KGVs von 6-10, bei Dividendenrenditen von 6 bis 7%, und mehr, sind hier keine Seltenheit, vor allem jetzt wieder nach der Konsolidierung.
    Zudem ist der Thai-Bath eher unter-, als überbewertet.


    Gefahr für den SET droht diesmal weniger von innen, sondern viel mehr von aussen, von den Zuständen an den Weltbörsen.


    Es wird hier am SET auch ein einziger Gold Minen Titel *THL* TONGKAH HARBOUR (Thailand:THL.BK) http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=s&s=THL.BK gehandelt, den ich früher auch bei W:O bei 1.50 THB zum Kauf empfohlen habe. THL ist danach innerhalb von einigen Monaten bis auf 10.40 hochgetrieben worden. Danach gings nach Gerüchten, dass der PM Thaksin wütend auf die Bosse von THL sei, wieder, nach und nach runter bis auf total unterbewetete 3.10. Seit einer Woche gehts wieder hoch. THL steht jetzt bei 4.14 THB, und wenn mich nicht alles täuscht, (THL Aktien werden seit Tagen akkumuliert) dürfte THL bald wieder zuerst auf ca. 4.40 THB steigen, danach auf mindestens 6.- THB, einem fundamental realistischen Preis bei den jetzigen Goldpreisen. THL hat die Finanzierung der geplanten Goldproduktion kürzlich durch eine Privatplatzierung von 100 Mio. Aktien zu 4.40 Bath pro Aktie weit vorangebracht. Ein Bankkredit von 13 Mio. US Dollar einer Thai Bank stehe kurz vor dem Abschluss. Die Infrastruktur für die Gold Produktionsaufnahme sei ebenfalls bereits abgeschlossen, und THL wird nach der letzten Meldung von THL noch im Laufe dieses Jahres http://www.set.or.th in Produktion gehen. Vom Direktor der THL wurde mir telefonisch versichert, das THL ihre zukünftige Goldproduktion nicht gehegt habe, und dies auch zukünftig nicht gedenke zu tun.


    Wenn aus dem ersten geförderten THL Gold, der erste gegossene Gold Barren, wie hier in Thailand üblich, dem König zum Geschenk überreicht wird, erwarte ich, dass THL bereits wieder über dem alten Hoch von 10.40 THB stehen wird.


    Die zweite hier in Thailand bereits Gold fördernde Gold Mine ist die KingsGate. Deren Aktien werden aber nicht am SET gehandelt, sondern in Australien gehandelt.


    Dadurch bleibt thailändischen Anlegern keine andere Wahl offen, falls sie in eine Goldaktie investieren wollen, als die THL, um bei einem evtl. Gold Rush dabei zu sein.


    Privat dürfen Thailänder offiziell immer noch nicht in ausländische Aktien investieren.


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

    yoyo


    Zitat

    Ich habe ziemlich viel über die Manipulation von Gold und Silber gelesen. Ich möchte meine Investitionen aber möglichst von Fakten steuern und nicht von Gerüchten.


    Ich bin sehr interessiert daran zu erfahren woher Du Deine Zuversicht, und die Zahlen und Fakten zum Silber Preis Geschehen beziehst, die Dich anscheinend völlig davon überzeugt haben, dass Silber nur eine Spekulationsblase darstellt, die sobald sich einige Grosse Akteure daraus entfernen, sofort wieder zusammen brechen kann.


    Vielleicht habe ich etwas übersehen.


    Nun nochmals zu den Zahlen die Angebot und Nachfrage beim Silber betreffen, die ich gepostet habe. Das sind keine Gerüchte. Die Zahlen zu den Silber Shortpositionen auch nicht. Auch die Zahlen zu den Lagerbeständen an der Comex sind genauso offiziell, wie ebenso Echt.


    Leider weiss ich noch nicht was Du denn, anstelle von Anlagen in Silber, für geeignete Anlageempfehlungen abgeben kannst.


    Würde mich echt interessieren.


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

    Warren


    Kann Dir leider zu Derivativen Zockerpapieren auf`s Gold und Silber nicht weiterhelfen, weil ich selbst noch NIE solche besessen habe.


    Besitze neben div. Aktien an der Thai Börse, wo ich Daytrading betreibe, hauptsächlich Aktien von Gold, Silber Minen, oder Explorern, plus einige Aktien anderer Rohstoff Produzenten.


    Einen grossen Teil meines *Fiat Money* Papiergeldes habe ich bereits in echtes Geld umgewandelt, in physisches Gold und Silber, in Barren, Münzen, und Silber Granulat. Kaufe auch heute, wenn es mein Portemonaie gerade zulässt, weiter physisch dazu. Zur Zeit aber vor allem kursgültige thailändische Gold Münzen, und etwas weniger auch Silber Münzen.


    Heute bin ich zudem gerade Besitzer von einigen weiteren SAMEX MINING CO (OTC BB:SMXMF.OB) Aktien geworden. Einer von GATA empfohlenen Gold Mine.


    Ein Blick in mein Minen Depot zeigt mir an, dass gerade der Frühling wieder anfängt einzuziehen, Du weisst schon, das ist die Zeit, wenn alles wieder grün zu werden beginnt!


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

    Magor


    Als ich gerade Dein letztes Posting gelesen habe, fiel mir eine grosse Veränderung gegenüber Deinen früher gemachten Ansichten und Meinungsäusserungen auf.


    Unsicherheit!


    Glaube sogar Du hast Angst!


    Angst davor etwas falsch gemacht zu haben. Du weisst nicht mehr ob Dein Anlageverhalten richtig, oder falsch war. Du sprichst von Gewinnen realisieren, von verpassten Chancen die ein Ausstieg, und Wiedereinstig in Gold, und Silber Aktien in den Vergangenen Jahren zusätzlich hätte erbringen können. Nur vergisst Du dabei anscheinend, dass man dazu voraussetzen müsste, dass Du die jeweiligen Zeitpunkte im vornherein hättest genau erraten müssen. Nur dann, wirklich nur dann, wäre diese Rechnung aufgegengen.


    Momentan ist es genau wieder diese verzwickte Situation: Häte ich doch nur zur richtigen Zeit verkauft, oder ich hätte es wissen müssen dass, usw....


    Du hast aber nicht verkauft lieber Magor, und das ist wegen meiner langfristigen Sichtweise beim Gold, und Silber, die richtige Entscheidung gewesen, eine fundamental richtige Entscheidung, nicht etwa eine falsche Entscheidung.


    Wäre es Dir gelungen genau zum "richtigen" Zeitpunkt rauszugehen aus Deinen Gold, und Silber Investments, hättest Du heute wieder ein grosses Problem zu lösen, nähmlich den zukünftig richtigen Einstiegszeitpunkt zu bestimmen.


    Das rein, und raus immer auch mit Kosten, und Gebühren verbunden ist, speziell für Anleger die ihre Gold/Silber Aktien Käufe über ihre Hausbank abwickeln, scheinst Du völlig zu ignorieren.


    Es wird mit Sicherheit einige Anleger geben die "genau zum richtigen Zeitpunk" ausgestiegen sind, nur es werden verdammt wenige dieser Leute wieder den "genau richtigen Einstieg" erwischen, und schon gar nicht öffentlich vorher ankündigen können.


    Wie Du auch bereits geschrieben hast, gibt es jetzt wieder Analysten und auch Poster in verschiedenen Foren, die uns breitmaulig bekanntgeben, "ich habe es Euch doch vorher genau gesagt". Das mag jetzt sogar zu einem aktuellen Zeitpunkt sogar stimmen, doch wenn man in älteren Aussagen dieser "Analysten" rumstöbert, findet man leicht ebensoviele Aussagen die sich früher als Fehlinterpretationen erwiesen haben, bei damals noch viel tieferen Goldpreisnotierungen, Angaben wie "Gold ist übermässig preislich angestiegen", und dringend zum "Gewinne mitnehmen" geraten wird, kann man viele finden. Über falsche Ratschläge wird üblicherweise Gras wachsen gelassen, über die richtigen wird berichtet.


    Was ich aber überhaupt nicht verstehen kann, ist Deine Motivation, mir aus Deiner Unsicherheit heraus, etwas wie dies zu unterstellen:


    Zitat

    Einzusehen ist natürlich, dass gerade solche Gurus, auch unser lieber ThaiGuru, um ihre Überzeugungsarbeit nicht selbst zu gefährden, zum Aussteigen gar nicht blasen dürften … :


    Du scheinst mich total zu verkennen. Wenn meiner Ansicht nach die Zeit reif ist Gold und Silber zu verkaufen, werde ich es Dich und alle anderen Leser im Thread frühzeitig wissen lassen. Habe dabei keinerlei Hemmschwellen, oder Eigeninteressen zu überwinden. Ich sehe ganz einfach im Gegensatz zu Dir noch überhaupt keine fundamentalen Gründe, mich selbst, oder irgend jemand anders dazu zu bewegen jetzt Gold und Silber, respektive die Aktien zu Verkaufen, oder wegen dem jetzt gerade temporär stattfindenden organisierten Abverkauf der Gold, und Silber Preise irgendwelche Unsicherheiten zu vermitteln. Weil es bei mir selbst 1. keine Unsicherheiten gibt, und 2. weil ich häuptsächlich Gold/Silber und Gold/Silberaktien als Langzeitanlage gekauft habe, und die zukünftige Preisentwicklung bedeutend positiver zu betrachten scheine als Du selbst. Mindestens hatte ich diesen Eindruck, als ich Dein Posting las.


    Jeder muss schlussendlich seine Anlageentscheidung selbst treffen und verantworten, kann sich nicht nur ausschliesslich auf andere Meinungen und Aussagen verlassen, das ist absolut richtig! Schuldige zu suchen um eigene Unsicherheiten, Handlungen, oder sogar Ängste zu übertünchen, scheinen mir hingegen kein wirklich geeignetes Mittel dafür zu sein.


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

    silvo


    Wir werden beim Silber mit Sicherheit sogar noch die 50.- Dollar pro Unze überschreiten. Es braucht halt alles seine Zeit.


    Mit tut es nur leid, dass es immer noch Leute gibt, die die überwältigende Beweislast einer Silberpreis Manipulation, eines riesigen Angebotdefizits, und den jeder Vernunft Hohn sprechenden, unverantwortlich hohen Shortpositionen sehen wollen, oder nicht wahrhaben wollen.


    Wenn wir auf Grund des neuesten Zahlen wissen, dass jedes Jahr mindestens 250 Millionen Unzen weniger Silber weltweit produziert wird, als von der Industrie verbraucht, in die Münzproduktion geht, und von den Anlegern nachgefragt wird.


    Wenn 590 Millionen Unzen Silber pro Jahr produziert werden, jedoch 840 Millionen Unzen Silber weltweit nachgefragt, und verkauft werden, ist es doch eine Milchmädchenrechnung zu erkennen, dass dies nur solange ohne massivste Preiserhöhungen beim Silber vonstatten gehen kann, als diese riesige Silber Angebotslücke, bis jetzt noch, durch alte Lager Bestände ausgeglichen wird, oder wie früher schon versucht habe aufzuzeigen, durch klammheimlich gemachten direkte Staatskäufe in Mexico, Südamerika, oder China, wie ich glaube zu weit höheren Preisen als dem offiziellen Silberpreis auf dem Spotmarkt. Gerüchte gibts es, in denen bereits schon vor 2 Jahren, in Zeiten als es grosse Lieferverzögerungen gab, und ebenso der Zeit als die Mietpreise für physisches Silber bis auf über 30% !!!!! angestiegen sind, die Rede von 14 Dollar pro Unze als Kaufpreis war. Kurz darauf hat sich die Lage wieder entspannt, und die "Leasingrates" fielen wieder.


    Diese alten Lager Bestände sind aber jetzt praktisch aufgebraucht, nicht nur Gerüchten nach, sondern es sind bewiesene Tatsachen. Beweise dafür habe ich in der Vergangenheit genügen veröffentlicht. Die Chinesen haben in der Vergangenheit Silber aus ihren Beständen abgegeben. Heute aber benötigt China schon selbst mehr Silber, als sie landesweit selbst produzieren. Die USA der in den vergangenen 26 Jahren gesammthaft gesehen, grösste Silberenthorter, muss seit letztem Jahr, erstmals seit 45 Jahren zum ersten mal netto wieder Silber am Markt zukaufen, damit sie ihre Silber Eagles überhaupt noch produzieren können.


    An der Comex werden nach den neusten öffentlich zugänglichen Zahlen, wird gerade mal nur noch über 125 Millionen Unzen Silber Lagerbestände verfügt.


    Die Shorts sind neusten Zahlen zur Folge mit 478 Millionen Unzen Short!


    ERGO:


    Die Silberpreise werden zukünftig noch gewaltig steigen!


    Wenn die Anleger endlich mal kapieren würden, dass sie in ihrem ureigensten Anlegerinteresse physisches Silber kaufen sollen, mindestens zum grossen Teil, und eben nicht nur ausschliesslich Papiersilber, Zertifikate, oder Calls, auch wenn das Mehrwertsteuer kosten sollte, wird dieser jahrelangen Silberpreismanipulation etwas früher als vom Cabal gewünscht, die Luft ausgehen.


    Noch etwas zur Mehrwersteuer beim Silber!


    Es ist doch sicher auch viel besser die MWST bei einem heutigen Silberpreis von 7.- Dollar zu bezahlen, als vielleicht in 2 Jahren bei einem Silberpreis von 20.-, oder 30.- ++ Dollar pro Unze.


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru

    yoyo


    Diesen Beitrag habe ich ganz speziell für Dich gepostet!


    Gruss


    ThaiGuru



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    International Forecaster April, 2004 (#3) - Precious Metals & More


    By: Bob Chapman, The International Forecaster


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    Below is just a portion of the International Forecaster.


    GOLD , SILVER, PLATINUM, PALLADIUM AND DIAMONDS

    Last year the UAE sold its gold to make what they call a diversification of assets and what we call an order to sell by the White House.


    Over the last two weeks, there has been a reduction of 2500 silver contracts by commercial shorts. If this continues it could turn into a stampede as the naked short position explodes. It is the function of the Comex to guarantee that there is enough silver in inventory to cover the reserve position. Silver will probably have its explosion before gold and it could be the trigger to take down the entire financial edifice. That is because the silver manipulation is more visible than that of gold. Silver has been illegally depressed and the numbers are there for all to see. The shorts are short 478 million ounces of silver. Yearly production is about 590 million ounces; yearly demand is 840 million ounces, a deficit of about 250 million ounces. The shortfall heretofore has been met by above ground inventory, which we contend is gone or almost totally gone. Comex holds 125 million ounces of silver.


    That means one large buyer could take delivery of the Comex reserve. If they did, prices would go crazy.


    Gold shares have done very well over the past four years. The majors have made fine gains, but it is evident that they have come under selling and shorting pressure over the past four months. Traders, funds and hedge funds trade. That is how they make their living and it has to be expected. We watch the major gold shares all day every day and we can promise you with great assurance that these shares are being shorted by the gold cartel. That does not mean they will not perform well, they will.


    It is now time to really concentrate on juniors ad exploration stocks. These are the stocks with the potential to go from $0.50 to $50.00. They did it between 1976 and 1981 and they will do it again. Majors are losing reserves as they produce. That is because they did not spend the money that they should have over the past ten years on exploration. They do not have the reserves for replacement in the pipeline. They have merged and that has helped them, but the easiest way for them to replace those reserves is to buy them. That means junior and exploration stocks will take on a completely new valuation. It takes two to three years to find an ore body. Only about one or two companies out of 100 finds an ore body. It then takes one to two years to complete feasibility and then two to three years to get into production. Thus, you are looking at four to eight years to make a mine. Financing was so difficult to get during the 1990s that little exploration was done by exploration companies and it has only been since 2000 that money has become available again. On top of this, regulatory bodies have done everything within their power and then some to destroy the mining industry at the grassroots. That means the place to be is in exploration companies. They do not have declining reserves; they have what majors need, expanding reserves. The gains in these stocks in the year’s ahead will be enormous. Gold production is falling. That means the price of gold has to go up. The overhang or inventory of above ground gold for sale is dwindling. Of 32,000 official tons in reserve, we estimate that between 22,000 and 28,000 have been sold or leased. This is not as good as the silver inventory situation, but it is very good. You have declining production, declining official reserves, very little new reserves in the pipeline and investment demand growing as investors flee fiat currencies, particularly the US dollar in which gold is denominated. In just Newmont, Anglogold and Barrick gold production for 2003 was off 30%. This year there will be a number of producers whose production will fall 5 to 10%. These major producers without reserves in the pipeline have to buy production to survive due to very poor management decisions and hedging during the 1990s.


    Hans Welteke, son of Bundesbank President Ernst Welteke, said his father clashed with German Finance Minister Hans Eichel over the use of the central bank’s gold reserves before taking a leave of absence in conjunction with an investigation by the Frankfurt prosecutors’ office. In addition, the Bundesbank is resisting efforts by the government to install Deputy Finance Minster Caio Koch-Weser as its new president, which it considers a political attack on its independence. This, of course, is Gerhard Schroeder’s idea. He and Welteke had been collaborating on the gold sale behind the scenes. Koch-Weser wants to sell more gold than Welteke did. Chancellor Schroeder’s popularity is so low with the people and his party he would do anything to regain favor and spending piles of money from gold sales would help him politically. Schroeder wants to increase spending to 3.0% of GDP by 2010 from 2.5% presently. One group of politicians wants to use any proceeds to cut debt and the other to ostensibly spend it on research and education, which is a farce. Presently, by law it must be spent on debt reduction. In the middle of this political fight Welteke looks like he will lose his job and Hans Eichel is struggling to keep from being dismissed. As much as he wants to get his hands on the money Schroeder cannot fire Welteke and Eichel at the same time. Schroeder’s party, the SPD’s popularity, has dropped to 29% versus 48% for Helmut Kohl’s CDU. This is a party fight, between a group of socialist and Marxists, over who gets to spend the money from gold sales. Only 500 tons can be sold under the agreement by Germany. This does not affect any further gold sales over the next five years. Their phony sale is to make a bookkeeping entry, which allows further spending.[/color]


    The gold has already been leased or sold. In all probability leased. Thus, the gold is gone. This is what they are not telling you.

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    Turks push M.East gold demand positive - GFMS


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    Posted: 15-APR-04 00:00 GMT +2 © Mineweb 1997-2004


    Gold demand in the Middle-East rose 9 percent to 631 tonnes in 2003. But GFMS, which today released its 2004 Gold Survey, says the increase was only due to Turkey, which imported 47 percent or 84 tonnes more gold last year, than in 2002.


    Without Turkey’s contribution, Middle Eastern demand for gold actually dropped 7 percent.


    Saudi Arabia and Yemen, the region’s second largest gold market, behind Turkey, fell 9 percent. According to GFMS, the weakness of the Egyptian pound during 2003, along with the increasing dollar gold price, also saw that country’s demand for gold drop by 15 percent.


    On a more positive note, GFMS said the sharp increases of scrap supply in the region that were a feature of 2001 and 2002, did not continue into last year. Scrap rose by only 4 percent to 341 tonnes, compared to the 30 percent annual surges experienced previously.


    The metals research and consultancy agency expects the Middle-East to recover this year, but has doubts on whether Turkey can maintain its pace of growth.

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    $450/oz gold in 2004 - GFMS


    By: Gareth Tredway


    Posted: 15-APR-04 00:00 GMT +2 © Mineweb 1997-2004


    GFMS, the metals consultancy and researcher, said in its Gold Survey 2004 published today, that a gold price of $450/oz was a possibility in 2004 provided favourable market conditions remained in place for the rest of the year.


    These conditions include global political and economic insecurities, which lead to investors buying into gold as a safe haven investment. The US economic developments are seen by GFMS as the greatest driver of investment in gold over the next year.


    “The US fiscal and current account deficit, on top of eye-watering levels of consumer debt, create huge risks of another hefty slide in the dollar, plus eventual recession and a slump in equity markets,” said Paul Walker, the GFMS chief executive.


    On Thursday, gold retreated below $400/oz for the first time in a month after positive US economic data, concerning consumer sales and prices, was released.

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    Gold supply flat last year - GFMS


    By: Stewart Bailey


    Posted: 15-APR-04 00:00 GMT +2 © Mineweb 1997-2004


    Global gold production increased by only 3 tonnes last year to a total of 2593 tonnes, GFMS, a precious metals researcher said today in its latest annual gold survey. The increase, of only 0.1 percent, shows little prospect of an increase in new production, after new mine production dropped by 28 tonnes in 2002.


    The traditional heartlands of supply in US, Canada and South Africa all showed a decrease in production last year, while Peru, Australia and China all produced more gold. Supply from recycled scrap also increased by almost 13 percent last year, to a five-year high of 943 tonnes, making scrap almost a quarter of total supply.


    Demand in fabrication, jewellery and de-hedging all decreased, while world investment demand, the sum of total investment in the metal, was up 420 tonnes, to 888 tonnes.

    darkjedi


    Also dass Aldi die Milch Deinen Angaben Zufolge unter Einstandspreis verkauf ist m.M.n. den Konkurenten gegenüber vermutlich unlauter Wettbewerb, doch für einen Vergleich mit der Preismanipulation beim Silber ist Dein Beispiel eher wenig aussagekräftig. Aldi bezahlt ja vermutlich den Bauern genauso wie die anderen Markteilnehmer, einen fairen, oder weiss ich was, allenfalls einen vom Staat festgelegten Preis. Selbst wenn Aldi danach die Milch verschenken will, soll sie das meiner Meinung nach tun können, solange sie gegen keine Gesetze verstösst (kenne mich leider mit der deutschen Gesetzgebung rund um die Kuhmilch, und den deutschen Handels und Wettbewerbs Gesetzen nicht aus).


    Der Milch Konsument profitiert, und die Bauern erhalten trotzdem den vollen Preis von Aldi bezahlt. Zudem habe ich noch nie was von Shortselling bei Kuhmilch gehört.


    Gold und Silber bedeutet für mich Geld, echtes Geld, und kein Zahlungsversprechen das gebrochen werden kann, wie beim "Fiat Money" Papier Geld.


    Bei Gold, und Silber wird den Produzenten eben nicht ein marktbestimmter Preis bezahlt, sondern ein manipulierter, künstlich tiefgehaltener Preis. Bei der Kuhmilch ist es in vielen Ländern gerade umgekehrt. Der Milchpreis wird durch den Staat künstlich (subventioniert) oben gehalten.


    Ich habe in Gold, und in Silber investiert, um mein Geld langfristig vor Wertverlust zu schützen. Papierwährungen eignen sich wie die Vergangenheit dutzendfach klar bewiesen hat, langfristig überhaupt nicht zu diesem Zweck. Auch ich möchte mit meinem Gold, und Silber Investment nach Möglichkeit Gewinne erziehlen. Seit 1999 habe ich mit Gold, und Silber Anlagen meine Substanz, in Fiat Money gerechnet, stark ausbauen können. Das hat ca. 4 Jahre gedauert, keine 15 Jahre, und kann sich sehen lassen. In nicht allzu ferner Zukunft, schätze ich, dass mir meine Aktien, und meine Silber und Gold Münzen noch sehr viel Ärger ersparen werden, und ich dabei nochmals weit mehr als in den letzten 4 Jahren meine Anlagerendite steigern kann.


    Nicht unwesentlich ist, und wird dies den vielen Gold und Silber Bugs zu verdanken sein, die sich eben nicht ausschliesslich nur der Profitsucht verschrieben haben, sondern sich für auch aktiv für das echte, nicht beliebig kopierbares Geld, Gold, und Silber einsetzen, damit den Gold, und Silber produzierenden Länder, meistens drittweltländer, ein fairer Preis bezahlt wird, und eben kein manipulativ künstlich gedrückter Preis.


    Es gibt bestimmt noch hunderte von Beispielen wo der Markt nicht nach Angebot und Nachfrage abläuft. In manchen Fällen ist es sogar Sinnvoll, und im Interesse der Menschen, in vielen jedoch nicht.


    Ich werde meinen aktiven Einsatz bis auf weiteres jedoch auf Gold, und Silber beschränken. Mein Motivation beschränkt sich übrigens bei weitem nicht nur darauf postings zum Gold und Silber Geschehen zu verfassen.


    Mit Ego befriedigen hat das Ganze jedoch gar nichts zu tun. Eher mit Genugtuung, wenn ich sehen kann, wie langsam aber sicher, sich das Blatt für`s Gold und Silber Cabal wendet, und die Arbeit der vielen Bugs langsam aber sicher finanziell belohnt wird.


    Sinn darin dies alles zu tun, kann ich entgegen Deiner persönlichen Sicht, sogar sehr viel erkennen.


    Gruss


    Thaiguru