Beiträge von bognair

so, der USD steigt weiter über bedeutenden Widerstand bei 91...

... doch was macht der Euro!!??

einen winterschlafenden Bären soll man nicht stören!!!

Der Rück-Schlag wird dann noch heftiger ausfallen.

Gut dass ich ein goldenes Schutzschild habe. (Rothschild steigt grad auch auf was billiges goldenes um!!)

PS: es gibt grad noch welche im Super-Sonder-Winter-Schluss-Verkauf!!!

@ thom
waldmanns heil!

@ Gold
Respkekt! steigst obwohl der USD im Höhenflug ist! weiter so!!

@ THOM
genau. aber dennoch: die wollen derzeit eine K.O.rrektur heraufbeschwören, doch ob sie es schaffen werden, die GoldinvestorenMASSE davon zu überzeugen auch zu verkaufen und somit Gold in eine monatelange Konsolidierungsphase zu schuppsen, bezweifle ich. Ich weiss es aber nicht. Ich hoffe, dass die Goldinvestoren alle schlaue Köpfe sind und sich nicht beeinflussen lassen und verkaufen sondern das Gegenteil machen: kaufen.

Zitat

Was gibts spannenderes als Gold-Wirtschaft?

@ Karl
ja, wenn jemand noch aufwärtspotenzial trotz einem niedergang der breiten börsen haben dann ist es Biotech und Research-Firmen, die bald einen DURCHBRUCH erleben könnten. Ich habe (leider) keine Ahnung von Anti-Körpern (wenn, dann nur von einem Anti-Goldcabal...), aber vielleicht mal zur Abwechlung auch ein "Anti"-Wort dass positiv sein kann. Und weil ich von sowas keine Ahnung habe, aber den gentechnisch orientierten BioTechs&Co trotzdem eine rosige Zukunft wünsche, wäre ich nicht abgeneigt mal hier und da ne aktie zu ergattern. Weil in der Tat, ich glaube, dass die nächsten Monate und Jahre etwas richtig heftiges ans Tageslicht bringen werden. Mahendra schreibt in seinem Buch zB, dass AIDS dieses Jahr "geheilt" werden kann, sowie dass bestimmte Krebsarten bald der Vergangenheit angehören. Dies scheint mir nur mit gentechnisch orientierten Research-Unternehmen möglich zu sein den Durchbruch zu schaffen. Aber dann geht der nächste Zug in Richtung Pharma-&Medikamenten-Herstellung. Diese Firmen dürften dann wohl noch mehr Gewinn schreiben als die "Erfinder" (research)? Wieviel Gewinn würde ein PharmaUnternhemen machen, wenn es ein Heilmittel oder (noch besser für das Unternehmen!!!!) einen IMPFSTOFF GEGEN AIDS geben würde?
Ich glaube dieses Unternehmen wäre von heute auf morgen mehr wert als das von Bill Aids! Doch leider kenne ich die Branche nicht und würde nur allzu gerne wissen wer von den vielen Biotechs,Pharmas,... wirklich einen auf dicke Hosen machen könnte, WENN der gentechnische Durchbruch gelingt. Und ich möchte gerne darauf spekulieren, dass der Durchbruch kommt - doch leider gibts kein OS auf diese Wette, und die Anzahl der potentiellen Unternehmen schreckt mich ab (weil ich keine Zeit habe für research&analyse). noch nicht.

@ karl
kennste sonst noch irgendwas mit wahrem aufwärtspotenzial, dass du mit beruhigter Seele empfehlen würdest, ausser reale, anfassbare, keiner-kann-wegnehmen-und-nichtentwertbare ROHSTOFFE & EDELMETALLE?

:P@ Thom
nene ich meine gar nicht dass noch ne korrektur oder igrnedwas ansteht. keine ahnung, vielleicht. vielleicht jetzt erst recht.
langfristig ist nichts und niemand stärker als der markt. gold ist der markt. die langfrist ist JETZT.

warum ich mich nur so aufrege ist dass all die tollen Analysten, die seit Monaten vor einer "Überhitzung" und Korrektur warnten, jetzt recht bekommen haben. Sogar ein Heiko Aschoff aus WO oder so schreibt jetzt "Endlich Kaufsignale". das ich nicht lache! und er steigt jetzt ein, gold steigt, und findet sich ganz toll. nur, auch ohne dieses preisgezerre: gold wäre auch so hochgegangen, und das hätte ich mir persönlich gewünscht, denn dann müsste sowas wie H.A. & M.F. anschauen wie Gold abhebt und erkennen dass sie gar nicht im Goldenen Shuttle sitzen. Und dann hätten sie sich gefragt: wieso sitz ich denn nicht drin? kann doch nicht sein, ich bin doch so ein guter analytiker und kenne alle börsenindikatoren und intermarketkorrelationen. und all diese haben mir damals gesagt: "Gold ist überhitzt, gold braucht ne korrektur".

wenn Leute sich JETZT schon über "Überhitzung" im Goldsektor befangen lassen(!), und die betonung leigt ganz klar auf LASSEN, dann fühle ich dass diese Leute nicht dabei sein sollten, denn diese haben nicht verstanden wie unterbewertet ist, sondern nur dass. Dazwischen liegt ein gewaltiger Unterschied, der noch viele Fressen aufs Pflaster schlagen wird.

aber über sowas sollte ich mich nicht aufregen sondern lieber ein "Spässle" draus machen!!

@ thom
ja, das mag ja vielleicht eine "Korrektur" gewesen sein für so manch einen, doch meine Definition und Vorstellung von einer "Korrektur" ist etwas anderes.
Das war&ist keine Korrektur sondern eine wanna-be-Korrektur die auf NIX basiert nur "heisser Luft".
Somit war dies für mich keine "natürliche, unerlässliche" Korrektur sondern eine FIAT-Korrektur.

und was FIAT wortwörtlich übersetzt heisst weiss ja jedes Kind in diesem Forum.

EFFE feiert COMEBACK:

Zitat

Das Schiff (US-Wirtschaft) hat ein Leck, das Wasser fängt an zu steigen. Damit die Party an Bord weitergehen kann, wird die Musik lauter gedreht, damit die Gäste weiterfeiern können.

:))

denke dass der USD bald seinen Zenit erreicht hat und wieder in den Boden der Realität gestampft wird. Gold geht steil. Jetzt nur noch eine "Korrektur" herausfbeschwören und in allen Goldforen weltweit PANIK und Abwärtsgedanken schüren, so zum Verkauf überreden und/oder nicht zu kaufen, damit der nächste Schritt hoch auf 480 nicht so verstärkt wird und nicht ganz so ruckartig geht. Mal schaun wie erfolgreich die dann warn...

Whoever had the misfortune to hold investment money in gold and silver could not be more happy that the last week finally got an end. Indeed, what a week it was!

Silver sank at one point more than $1.5 lower in just two days, something so absolutely amazing that has never happened before, except in the post-Hunts era. The action in gold was not much different, except for the magnitude.

This carnage in the PM arena was preceded and accompanied by several articles and comments from people who were (and are, I suppose) among the strongest supporters of the precious metals’ merits. As such, their latest words, as always, had an enormous impact towards the investors in this category. And these words this time urged caution, with various degrees of authoritativeness.

Dismissing the minor degrees, which could be synthesized with “nothing just goes up, and in 1975-76 gold had a 45% correction,” I wish to focus on the remarks from Richard Russell on inflation/deflation and silver. His comments are the following:

First of all, some clarifications: it’s not possible to get a deflationary environment living in a world completely plunged in a fiat-money regime.

I think that inflation and deflation are the most abused words in the economic camp, with a lot of people who use them in an improper way, creating so much confusion.

What is inflation? Inflation is an increase in the supply of money released in the system. Period!

And deflation is the contrary, that is, a decrease in the supply of money infused in the system.

From this, I’d be daring to draw the following corollary: in a fiat-money regime deflation is something that cannot exist! At least in real life. And in fact, that’s never happened in such a regime, and never will.

Many refer to Japan to argue the contrary, but again it’s just a confusion of terms and concepts. In Japan we have witnessed a collapse in the price of assets, and a minor retreat in the consumer and producer price. But the release of money in the system has been relentless, and that is inflation!

There were two things a little strange in such a context: a substantial firm yen and the interest rate decreasing. But this can be explained with the fact that Japan had no foreign debt, its citizens had a huge pool of savings and its trade balance showed a chronic surplus, all the things that the US today can’t boast of, and that’s the reason why the outcome will probably be different under this aspect.

So I believe what Mr. Russell really meant with his expression “deflationary environment” was probably this: an environment where the price of financial and real assets goes down dramatically, an environment where the economy recedes and where the untenable debt level is like a stone tied to the feet of society.

But even in such an environment, that would not be deflationary in a proper sense, because the Fed will keep on doing the only thing it knows and for which it was created: to pump more money and credit in the system. Will the silver be a poor choice of investment, an asset to worry about if you hold it? I don’t think so!

Even if people don’t realize silver is money, that the only real money is gold, and in fact historically the most circulated money of all mankind, I would consider it the safest investment to hold, also in the following scenario.

This scenario would be characterized by a desperate and growing need of cash (legal tender) for people and corporations to meet their obligations, so that they’d get rid of all other assets to obtain it, with a dramatic effect on the price of those assets. Mr. Russell talks about something similar with his remark about debt as a “synthetic short position against the dollar.” Everybody will dump stocks, bonds and real estate, and everything under the pressure of the enormous debt. This theory surely has sense, but will it affect the precious metals? Will the people sell even gold and silver to get an ever more scarce legal tender? Maybe they would, but how much gold and silver do American people have now as an asset? The answer is very, very, very few! Very, very, very little gold, and maybe even less silver. The percentage of those metals in the total of their assets at this moment is absolutely negligible, so we can reasonable conclude that the effect of their hunger for legal tender can’t be significant for precious metals.

Things could maybe be different for gold and silver stocks. They are first common stocks, and in a general demise of the stock markets they could certainly suffer. But I’d conclude that finally the public will come to realize why they should buy them: because of their assets! The rule in this camp is a universal one: do your own due diligence, examine the goodness of their reserves and resources and projects, and the competence and trustworthiness of the management, so to avoid the garbage that abounds here as everywhere, the “hot-stories” full of nothing.

Even less significant, I think, is the value of US dollar on the Forex. The foreigner has no obligations denominated in USD; they do have a lot of rights denominated in USD. To talk about an appreciation of the US dollar, therefore, is to go a little astray; the US dollar may appreciate in relation to stocks, bonds, houses, et cetera, but I don’t see how that “synthetic short position” could make a case for its appreciation against foreign currencies.

In such a scenario, Mr. Russell warns us that silver would not be perceived as a precious metal, as money, but rather as an industrial metal. And sure, in an economic recession any commodity would suffer, at least according to the common economic thinking. But I confess I’m not so comfortable with this conclusion. In general, I would strongly argue that the monetary affaire should not be eliminated when coming to determine what could be a fair price for the commodities. What do I mean? I mean this:

U.S. Debt – All households, governments, business
1980 $ 4 trillion
2002 $31 trillion

Economic expansion of 80’s and 90’s questionable
Dow + 1,000% Debt + 700%
Energy Consumption (barrels of oil consumed) only +34% in 20 years

U.S. money supply:
1787 – 1970 2 centuries $600 billion
1971 – 2003 32 years $6 trillion

Globally, money is being printed at alarming rates. (In last 3 years: Japan +50% (M1); U.S. +25% (M2))

These are just a few quotes to realize the monetary orgy that has happened in the world in the last few decades. I could go on, but I hope I was able to make my point. If someone wants some really strong emotions about this, he has just to check the archive of Doug Noland on http://www.prudentbear.com. If you are easily affected, avoid it!

At this point, I urge everybody to confront the price of gold and silver; after that is done, I think I can save further words.

In the case of silver, that view is even more flawed, as I see it. First, if commodities’ prices go up and down just according to economic expansion or recession, could someone please explain to me why the silver price has been flat, at best, in the last two decades, a period of time where a powerful economic boom took place?

Anyway, even leaving this simple question apart, the major flaw in applying that view in the case of silver, even considering it just an industrial metal, is that it fails completely to consider the paper manipulation going on in the Comex, the supply/demand equation with a productive structural deficit lasting a decade and half, and known inventories above the ground approaching zero. I will not dwell on this, because these things have been exposed and examined much better than I could by Ted Butler, and you have just to go on his website to know the details. I’m still waiting to find someone or something contradicting seriously the results of Mr. Butler's research.

Maybe in the dreams of the Silver Users Association!

So what’s happened the last week in gold and silver markets? Nothing special indeed. Just the usual flood of paper gold and paper silver sold on the markets to scare away the public and the brainless technical funds; just the usual avalanche of paper gold and paper silver hurled in the market by the usual subjects to manipulate it, gold and silver which do not exist, which they do not possess, and which, in the case of silver, the world will not produce in a whole year; just the usual killing of the commodity law with the speculators setting the price, with the paper setting the price for the physical. In a word: just the usual Fraud, exposed in all its glory, shameless and unpunished, under the pleased and benevolent sight of the CFTC and the Comex. Nothing special indeed.

Just the usual ambush! And every time it happens, we get of course “experts” and “economists” ready to rationalize the irrational. This time the gag was centered on the last CPI release, which showed a monthly increase of 0.5%. You would expect that such an increase would boost the precious metals’ price, wouldn’t you? But alas, you are not an “expert”, neither an “economist.” Because if you were, you’d realize that such increase means that maybe the Fed could be less available to keep the interest rates to the emergency level where they are now, and that would kill tangibles and would make the US dollar a “must own.”

With an incommensurable effort to stay serious, I am ready to concede that the Fed will raise the rates a quarter, half, or even a full point in the coming months. I’m not so sure, but I will concede it. Will that mean a reversal in US dollar fortune, and a shock for gold and silver? If you think so, you could go towards a lot of surprises in the future.

The Fed should increase the rates to 6% just to match the increase in the CPI (CPI is then a joke in itself; I consider it just to show how much I am temperate), 6% just to get zero real return on money. And a zero real return on money is still not a credible challenger for gold and silver. Give me a break here, please.

The truth is that any increase in interest rates made just to catch up with the increase in producer or consumer prices will not really harm gold or silver. As Jim Sinclair points out, that would require a substantial change in the spending habit of the government, and a serious effort of monetary policy, to effectively address and reverse, the monstrous deficits which now affect the US dollar system. Do you see something similar in the near or even intermediate future? If you do, your sight is much, much better than mine!

Therefore, the usual subjects at the Comex can continue to deceive themselves thinking that the fractional reserve way-of-life can be effective even in the gold and silver realm, but the time will come when they will be forced to wake up, realizing that it’s impossible to inflate the gold and silver supply with the simple pressure on a computer keyboard. To achieve that, a lot of money is needed, a lot of time, a lot of hard work and know-how, and sometimes even human lives are required, all along the production chain. And the people, the general public will realize that too. That will be a very interesting time.

I don’t know if in the last week we saw the last gasp of those usual subjects trying to cap gold, and I don’t know if we now have the very last possibility to get silver at a price so cheap. I just know that all the known above ground silver inventories gone almost gone, and that even less gold is available to continue the fiction. My only humble conclusion is that in our future ever increasing amounts of legal tender (gold and silver) will be required to get some weight of real, honest money, to get some real wealth on which you can rely without depending on the willingness and trustworthiness of anybody.

© 2004 Castrese Tipaldi

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Castrese Tipaldi
Riga, Latvia

Quelle: http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2004/0420.html

A Thought for today...
by Jim Sinclair

Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 11:37:00 AM EST

Morning Gold Commentary

Author: Jim Sinclair

Gold sales by the French and Swiss National Banks represent a singular most BULLISH event. In the 1970 gold bull market, every ounce offered for sale at the time was purchased. In this latest case, the buyers will be Islamic and Asian and the sales will memorialize the shift of economic influence away from the dollar and the euro into gold.

These kinds of sales allow singular buyers of huge amounts of gold to enter the market and/or expand their positions at singular prices. As such, these offerings invite bullish interest rather than dissuade it. It can be said that the central bank selling of the 1970's made the bull market possible in terms of the huge price advance it had off the base. That is fact not speculation.

There is no question in my mind that inflation is awake and growing. It is becoming more and more evident in daily life. Also, there is no question that the dollar will remain weak on balance because no policy changes are on the horizon to reduce the triple deficits of the USA. That being said, the US dollar will go lower on balance and will not cease its decline until policies emerge under new managers to combat these deficits.

The combination of inflation and a weak dollar is the formula that will push gold to $480 and in time to $529 and beyond. So the action of the French and Swiss central banks demonstrates a recognition of the above and is simply an act of total desperation to support their friends at COT who are doomed to severe loses.

COT will turn bullish just as they did in 1979 by purchasing a central bank offering to long side spread hedge their short positions. Yet the COT figures will never tell you this because they are structured to be used by COT to their advantage.

The end result of both the French and Swiss Central bank selling will be to shift the timing of the break above $405.50, $419.70, $430.30 and beyond $480 by 5 trading days. Rather than launching this week, it will happen during the first week of May.

For you speculators out there, it now means that emphasis should be put on the August $430 calls because the June calls, which mature in late May, will now be squeakers to get in the money.

sinclair und sein bullenhorn...
... Hoffe das niemand die Juni OS hält...

alles nur sonntagsgrillen ohne steaks

USD

Gold geht aus dreieck HOCH obwohl der USD HOCH zum neuen Höchststand ist!!!!

und gold hat keine lust mehr

und der dollar ungebremst wie phoenix aus der asche über die 90 und jetzt auch neuer höchststand markiert

Euro geht runter, vielleicht noch bis 1,17 oder 1,18, oder schon fertig, I donno.