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Attention China Silver Panda Buyers:
This is an important Message regarding Fake or Counterfeit China
Silver pandas. It is just incredible how many The Fake silver pandas
that show up everyday on Ebay. These Fakes have become nearly identical
to the real ones, but they do not have a drop of actual Silver in them.
The counterfeitors, have come close to matching the size, the diameter,
weight as well as many of the intricate design features that make
silver pandas so unique.Some of the Fake Silver pandas have become so
good, that even experienced coin dealers can be fooled
The
Problem is, that the Fake/ counterfeit silver pandas have hurt the
values of the Real silver pandas. A lot new Silver panda buyers
are hesitant to start collecting Silver pandas, for fear of buying some
worthless imitation product. But, there are some things that you can do
to protect yourself. Here are some things to look for.
Packaging :
Real Chinese Silver pandas did not come Double sealed after 2006. Most
people think that 2005 was the last year, but in fact..there were some
from 2006 that came double sealed ,but they are not very common. So if
you see Chinese Silver pandas in some sort of Double sealed package,
with a date of 2007 or newer, the chances are very high that it will be
counterfeit. Most of the ones from 2000 to 2005 were minted at Shenzhen
Guobao Mint (in China) and this should be clearly Stamped on the outer
portion of the seal. Not all Silver pandas have this stamp, so it would
be wise, to learn exactly what Double sealed packages were in use by
the various mints. One Packaging style that the counterfeitors use,
has ROUNDED corners to it. These packages are much more rigid than the
real ones, and they have ROUNDED corners, usually on one end or the
other. Item # 281016370013 is an example of what I mean by rounded
corners. Anytime you see these packages, you should avoid them. They
contain 100% fake silver pandas.
What some
sellers are doing to get around the packaging, is to now remove them and
just sell them in capsule form. There are some right now on Ebay being
sold out of Hong Kong that are completey fake. In fact, it is my belief
that this seller is using different screen names, showing a picture of
an actual silver panda, but after you purchase it, you receive a simlar
looking,but fake,( none the less), China Silver Panda. Here is an item
number for you to check out (261124702314 & 281016370013) This
seller has sold hundreds of these fake pandas, and continues to get
away with it. Buying capsuled silver pandas, can be very risky. Number
one,make sure that there is a denomination on it( such as a 10 or a 5)
any and ALL silver pandas without a denomination are 100% fake. Silver
is a difficult metal to duplicate,so be sure to make sure that it has
smoothness, and creamy texture as real silver does. Weight is another
key to check. A real Silver panda should weigh ( without the
capsule) right at 31.1 grams, where as the fake silver pandas are
generally less than this ususally 30.5-30.8 grams. Also, check the
Detail of your panda. Real silver Pandas are known for their intricate
designs. The fake ones tend to lack this detail. The fine lines on the
Temple side, are more blurry on the Fake pandas.
There are
many more clues to look for when comparing Silver Pandas. My
suggestion, is to do a little research before buying. There are more and
more articles coming out on the internet, everyday regarding
counterfeit pandas. One of the better articles was written by Peter
Anthony. and can be found by searching for "How to Spot counterfeit
Pandas"
In My opinion, there is not a bettter Silver coin than
the Chinese Silver Pandas. But there are a ton of Fakes. Unless, you
don't mind spending 60.00 and upward, on a fake cheap alloy counterfeit.
You may want to take a very close look at you silver pandas when you
buy them
I hope this Information helps!

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eindeutig

gib ihm zunder

grüsse

edit. 22.10.

danke ... bist ein schatz

Zitat von puschkinrosa

wenn echt ... könnte die Folie Shanghai Mint sein

tja

josi ..

seh ich wie du. denke der anbieter weiss genau was er hat.

auf meine mail hat er vorsichtshalber nicht geantwortet

das pic aus den vergangenen 2 auktionen spricht für sich ...

Sehr gut und gern wieder!
Mitgliedsname javafisch (privat) 10.06.12 09:11 10 Yuan China Panda 2000 (Nr.170851706281)EUR 202,88
[Blockierte Grafik: http://1.2.3.12/bmi/q.ebaystat…cs/icon/iconPos_16x16.gif]Sehr gut und gern wieder!
Mitgliedsname javafisch (privat) 10.06.12 09:11 10 Yuan China Panda 2000 (Nr.170851706608)EUR 206,88

grüsse

ps. fake 2004 u. 2000 mirror

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[ 18 Gebote ]

Das Angebot wurde nach meiner lieben Email beendet

[b]es soll sich um eine Fälschung handeln[/b]

grüsse

gadermayr @ all

Wassergeist sei bitte so gut und begründe auch wieso du von Fälschungen ausgehst.

bei bedarf gerne - über pn

feind könnte mit hören

wg

ps. gadermayer .. magnet wär sooo einfach gewesen, gell

hab's heute nich mit den augen
seh schon fakes bei - sonst - seriösen händlern.

wg

ps. finngold ... danke aber der faden ist nur für china coins gedacht.

die australien fakes würde ich an deiner stelle im drachen II faden unterbringen.

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8| 8o 8o

2 Preisvorschläge

gadermayr ... der händlerlink zeigt das original zum vergleich.

.

nochmal zu herrn kaiser

ebay gönnt ihn auch noch die 1. reihe

.

93,80

wg

die Münze ist in der orginal Kapsel + Box

orig. kapsel ... box, coa u. panda kommen aus dem ersatzteillager.
.

100. anni bank of china

wg

ps. wächter

vergilbt

[tube]http://www.ozcopper.com/fake-silver-warning/[/tube]

The composition of the fake silver is typically made up from:

Au 0.093

Ao 0.267

Zn 13.40

Cu 83.40

Ni 2.81

Fe 0.051

Absolut nicht mein Gebiet daher bitte den Bildern entnehmen. Bin halt Militariasammler.....

herr kaiser u. sein "verg." ... er hat's wieder gefunden.

wg

ps.

[tube]

[tube]

Originalverschweisst - China Panda 2001 - 10 Yuan - 1 Unze Feinsilber

DIE INFORMATIONEN WURDEN NACH BESTEM WISSEN UND GEWISSEN BEREITGESTELLT

wg

.....

• Total Value Sold: $10100.95

onghu88jingshen eBay panda.pdf

.

edit.

wli83362012

2751mikel

1984 Panda 25 Yuan Gold Proof Coin Certificate # 3473

China 1984 Panda 25 Yuan Proof 1/4 ounce in .999 fine pure gold.
The coin you see will be the coin you will receive. The
coin is sealed in a plastic hard case, surrounded by a small plastic
bag. This is the original box the coin arrived in. We do not grade
coins, we will leave that to you. We are starting this coin at melt value as of 8/13/2012. $1,620.00 per ounce divided by (4) starts this coin at 405.00.

sehr seltene münze! kaum mehr zu bekommen
1/25 OZ China Gold Panda - 15 Yuan

Motiv Jahrgang 1996

Zum 25jährigen Jubiläum der Panda Goldmünzen - herausgegeben 2007

Motiv Vorderseite: Pandabär im Baum

Rückseite: Tempel, chinesische Schrift + Jahr 2007

Material: 999er Feingold

Nennwert: 15 Yuan

Gewicht: 1/25 OZ

Hi There,
Helpful message received with many thanks!
Well, I know some
fake/counterfeit coins are on the market, I have seen some high quality fake
ones from local markets as well. The coins we trade are all GENUINE! Fake pieces
are out of our dictionary. All coins if not stated explicitly in our eBay store
are problem free: i.e. No oxidation/white spots, no marks haze, no scratches.
And most of the coins in our store are mint sealed and never opened. They will
be taken directly from their mother plastic sheet holder for shipment. And we
have one person here to check each piece before the delivery to secure coin(s)
is/are perfect.
My niece is responsible for taking photos and uploading them
to eBay for relisting. So far what I suppose is that she just simply downloaded
some photos from internet and added to our eBay shop... I have removed the
photos and will investigate on it seriously.
Vielen Danken Nochmal &
MfG
xxxx

-
thincat00

kann mir eigentlich nicht vorstellen dass er fakes liefert ,

aber das pic

gruss wg

ps.

zünd's an

pps.

"verg." ... das "verg." ist zeitverschwendung

China 2010 Panda 50 Yuan 1/10 Oz (Unze) Gold -3,10 Gr ,999 Au

Super Danke gerne wieder
Mitgliedsname rc-mn ( Bewertungspunktestand von 168[Blockierte Grafik: http://q.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconTealStar_25x25.gif]) 06.07.12 21:26 China Panda Münze Gold verg. 2010 999 Au 50 Yuan 1 / 10 OZ (Nr.110895212778)EUR 140,00Artikel aufrufen

Zitat von ceca2000

Das Zubehör verkaufe ich und stammtvon einem Original !!!
Habe ich Dir auch so auf deine Emailnachfrage mitgeteilt.

Zitat von wassergeist

Habe ich Dir auch so auf deine Emailnachfrage mitgeteilt.

gerade gelesen ... danke

was bleibt

wenn der käufer des fakes dein zubehör ersteigert wird es für den unbedarften sammler schwierig.

grüsse

Alles anzeigen

zur Auktion steht ,

nur das *** Zertifikat *** COA
für

10 yuan Gold jahr der
Ratte

Material : Gold

Weight : 1/10
OZ

Diameter : 18 mm

bitte seht
auch meine weiteren Auktionen, da gibt es noch mehr.....

Paypal möglich

***
Nur das Zertifikat wird versteigert !!!!

wg

warum nicht gleich den dreck in die tonne