Mir solls recht sein, diese USD Rally ![]()
Ein kurzes aufatmen das man auch ausnuetzen kann.
Und wieder mal. selten ein Nachteil ohne Vorteil.
Beiträge von Eldorado
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Expect the unexpected...
Rabbi rechnet : ""Wenn allerdings der Goldpreis auf 48000 US-$ stiege""

@Schablonski....was habe ich dir gesagt was passiert...

Damit hat doch Knut schon gerechnet...BULLENFALLE !
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Ich habe mehr, aber die Hoffnung gebe ich nicht auf.
Bei Yukon muss man nun bis 2009 warten..

Vielleicht gibt es dann ein breakeven...

Die sind auch mit von der Partie, ich denke auch hier ist nun Beton.
IAU.TO BZA.TO CMM.V PAL
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Die TVG.V hat sich ein wenig erholt , die CHX.V ein disaster !
Bei ESO.V EFR.TO GEM.V und die Matz von ASX.V X(...schlagt sich auch nicht besser. (grandich hat mir die empfohlen), hoert sich ja gut an : Alberta Star.
Bei NUC gab es heute news, wieder ein stueck land ergattert..
Ich glaube die sind nur in Immobilien.
Soweit die verstrahlten....

Mal schaun was 2008 bringt.
XEX
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@Edel
Ich konnte mich nicht durchlesen, so wie ich es verstehe hat Rob mit (seiner Firma). E ??..... PP's von Rubicon gekauft.
Ist die Firma im Pot von UXG ?..oder ist das sein Sammelpunkt der Profite von UXG und RMX.
Hat UXG etwa Anteile von Rubicon RMX.TO ? oder ist es nur Rob mit seiner privaten Schatztruhe ? -
Gold’s Quirk: It’s Volatile, but Holders Feel Secure
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12…Dd6QDhuRE00Hg&oref=slogin
“When you buy gold as an insurance policy against inflation and currency devaluation, you don’t sell unless you have to,” Kenneth J. Gerbino said.
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'Explosive' file on Selebi
2007-12-9 23:36
Johannesburg
Startling revelations of allegations forming the basis of the Scorpions' case against, among other people, National Police Commissioner Jackie Selebi, have come to light in a lengthy document acquired by Beeld newspaper.
The 141-page document was compiled from sworn statements handed to the Scorpions.
The statements were taken by former Airports Company South Africa (Acsa) security chief Paul O'Sullivan, as part of his private investigations into Selebi.
They're contained in a file compiled by O'Sullivan and given to the Scorpions.
Sources close to the investigation into Selebi, the so-called Project Bad Guys, confirmed to Beeld that the O'Sullivan document was the basis of the Scorpions' investigation into Selebi.
The statements apparently reveal a clear trail of alleged organised criminal acts committed by Glenn Agliotti, with the help of his friend Selebi.
Agliotti reached a plea agreement with the Scorpions last week and was found guilty of drug-dealing.
He was sentenced to 10 years' imprisonment, suspended for five years, as well as an admission-of-guilt fine of R300 000, and a payment of R200 000 to the asset forfeiture unit.
From a statement by someone referred to as "Casual Source", taken by O'Sullivan and handed to the Scorpions, it appears that Agliotti played a far bigger role in organised crime than he had admitted in court.
"Casual Source" alleges that murdered mining magnate Brett Kebble's former security consultant, Clinton Nassif, and Kebble himself were involved in organised crime, assisted by Selebi.
'Large sums of cash'
Nassif earlier reached a plea agreement with the Scorpions on the Brett Kebble murder charge, and the drug-dealing charge on which Agliotti was sentenced last week.
O' Sullivan's transcription of the statement by "Casual Source" reads: "Glenn Agliotti 'GA' is a friend of Jackie Selebi."
The statement by "Casual Source" continues: "(The source) says the three of them (Selebi, Nassif and Agliotti) own a place in Midrand and, every fortnight or so, large sums of cash are collected from there and taken to a certain bank.
"(The source) says the bank manager (the name of the manager and the bank are known, but have been withheld by Beeld on legal advice) ensures the Fica requirements are circumvented and that the money is clean."
Beeld heard that amounts of between R1m and R2m at a time were involved.
The bank manager apparently had resigned from the bank eventually and was working with Nassif full time "to launder his money".
"Casual Source" also claimed Nassif and Agliotti travelled to London every month, to deposit money into bank accounts there.
He alleged that Selebi helped to ensure that Agliotti and Nassif were not stopped with the money at OR Tambo Airport, and that, in return, deposits were made into an account at a London bank for Selebi.
Weapons-smuggling claimed
It's also alleged in the statement that Selebi and other well-positioned police sources had helped to obtain information for Nassif and his security company, CSN.
It's claimed, also, that Selebi helped Nassif in weapons-smuggling activities.
Neither Agliotti nor Selebi would comment about the file when approached by Beeld.
A message on the cellphone of Marius du Toit, Nassif's attorney, said he would be available again on January 8.
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Gold is Money: At some point in the not too distant future, global fiat currencies will collapse in value against commodities, and the cost of living will soar. People will go on a head hunting campaign and demand Central Bankers of the globe be forced to do hard labour deep in the mines of the Earth to extract gold with a pick and shovel (to show how really difficult it should be to introduce fiat currency into the market). A new age will be born where countries that have a gold-backed currency will control the wealth of the world. Central banks that sold gold are going to have their local currency valued like those of the past that inflated theirs away. An era of "honest money" will be established with a new set of players…the old ones will become the new "Boys From Brazil"; or, whatever country is viewed as the next hideout of choice. The way to be a part of the "Gold is Money" era is to start buying gold and silver bullion while it still is available. Purchasing gold and silver stocks should be restricted to companies that have an operational mine, with minimal share dilution, good management and located in politically secure countries. Failure to do so will add another member to the Homer Collective.
David Petch
Market Letters Digest
http://www.treasurechests.info
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Bin gespannt naechste Woche, mal schaun was passiert wenn Jupiter den Pluto nach 13 Jahren wieder trifft.
Merriman sagt...together they can coincide with a sense of urgency, even hysteria due to the nature of Jupiter.
...... (it exaggerates whatever it contacts).

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Den Harald & Randy hoere ich gerne bis die Diamanten kommen.

Von Lenz schon erwaehnt, die 7. Dezember Show....
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Finance24
Investors assess Jacob Zuma
2007-12-9 14:48
London
Investors nervous over the possibility of a populist left-leaning president in South Africa are hoping Jacob Zuma will turn out like Brazil's Lula rather than Venezuela's Chavez.

Zuma, a survivor of scandals that would have buried most politicians, is favourite to win party elections this month, largely because of grassroots support from trade unions and members of South Africa's poor black underclass.
A win would put him on course to become president of Africa's biggest economy in 2009.
But investors are not thrilled.
His trade union and left-wing links make him suspect in many investors' eyes. They fear he will be pressured to up spending on social programmes and relax the fiscal discipline of the last decade.
Some hope Zuma's track record of centrist voting and his attempts to reassure investors - most notably, during a recent private visit to the United States - are signs he may turn out more like Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who came to power on a leftist platform then proceeded with reforms that have made Brazil an emerging markets darling.
"It is definitely a risk, the news that Zuma may be the next president. He is not a market-friendly candidate, his reputation is worse than Lula's ever was," said Maarten-Jan Bakkum, portfolio strategist at ABN AMRO Asset Management, which runs almost $2bn in emerging markets investments.
"But on the plus side, institutions are very strong in South Africa, there is a solid policy direction and we don't see that one man can completely change that," he added.
Bakkum has put his money where his mouth is - he has gone long South African stocks, noting valuations 12 times forward price-to-earnings versus about 14 for emerging markets overall.
"South African companies are among the best-managed in emerging markets. The government has done a good job and we want to see a continuation of the policies of past years," he said.
Chavez?
There is of course the chance of another Hugo Chavez, seen by many as wasting Venezuela's oil bonanza on nationalising swathes of the economy and on lavish social spending.
Ratings agency Moody's, however, is not too worried.
"Zuma has never taken a different position on economic policy than that which was generally agreed by consensus among policy makers," said Moody's Vice President Kristin Lindow.
"Investors at this stage are not particularly alarmed as Zuma has been doing his best to reassure them."
Since the dismantling of apartheid in 1994, South Africa has been held up as a beacon of multi-racial democracy. Poverty, unemployment and disease are rife but there is also a growing middle class, driving economic growth of 5% a year.
Investors have been pumping cash into South African bonds and stocks with flows year-to-date at over $13bn. The stock market is just off record highs hit earlier this year.
But now, uncertainty over future policy is coinciding with double-digit interest rates and a slowing economy. Data from fund consultancy EPFR Global shows funds have steadily reduced weighting to South Africa since January 2006.
"We are extremely underweight South Africa. Stocks there are relatively cheap and from a bottom-up point of view, they look interesting. But you have not seen the full impact of the rate rises and you have the politics on top," said Oliver Bell, senior investment manager at Swiss fund Pictet.
The South African Treasury's conservative fiscal stance, beloved of rating agencies, has drawn fire from local left wingers and trade unions. Zuma may have no choice but to oblige with more social spending and some fear, even nationalisations.
"From an investor point of view Zuma is a complete unknown. The biggest worry is what favours he is having to pull in from the trade unions to get elected," Bell said. "He may say he will not change policy but I'm quite happy to be underweight the market and wait and see as it all unfolds."
Spending needed?
But many argue South Africa can tolerate some fiscal loosening. This may even be desirable, especially if spending is directed to education and infrastructure - the main constraints the economy is bumping against as it tries to ramp up growth.
Unemployment is over 25%, blamed mainly on a skills shortage while more healthcare spending may help tackle an Aids epidemic - factors that are inhibiting direct foreign investment. But there is not much public debt.
"Zuma has talked of loosening fiscal policy and spending more on schools and hospitals. Markets would be hard-pressed to say that's not essential," said Kieran Curtis, fund manager at Morley Asset Management with $1bn in emerging markets.
"They have worked hard with counter-cyclical monetary and fiscal policy so they should be able to loosen both if growth slows. And if Zuma wants to spend more there is plenty of room.
"The Lula scenario is what people are hoping for," he said.

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Du bist ja ein richtiger Ueberlebungskuenstler....

Alternativ gehts auch irgendwie weiter.....f...the modern world and look for simple pleasures.

Back to nature ???
Depressing wenn einer den anderen abkocht selbst im/in Neiderdorf.

Ja, die Anzahl der Zeckenbisse in D sind am steigen.

Die Frust geht um....
Welcome to ...... ,.. who do you trust ?

If you don't trust Gold and Silber please go.

Don't forget always a ""cool hand""......
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Das kann ja lustig bzw.traurig werden wenn die Fans zum Soccer WC kommen.
Zur Zeit verdient man mit Tourismus mehr als bei den Goldminen, die Zeiten haben sich geandert.
China ueberholt bald RSA in der Goldproduktion und die haben mehr Hirn als........
Was Alltaegliches hier.......wieder mal..

South AfricaHijack victim puts up fight
2007-12-9 13:41
Johannesburg - A 21-year-old man sustained serious injuries in an attempted hijacking in Weltevreden Park on Sunday, Johannesburg paramedics said.
ER24 spokesperson Werner Vermaak said the attack took place at a housing complex in Without Street around 02:00.
"Paramedics that arrived on the scene found the 21-year-old lying in the house at the time. He sustained serious injuries to his face, head and possible fractures to his hands and wrists," Vermaak said.
It was understood that the man had been visiting a friend in the complex and was about to leave when a group of men tried to hijack his Toyota Corolla outside the complex.
"The 21-year-old put up a vicious fight," he said.
It was believed that hijackers fled the scene.
The severely beaten man was found lying next to his car by his friend who dragged him into the house.
The man was taken to Life Flora Clinic in a stable condition.
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Wenn du das gleich auf dich beziehts dann hast schon einen Sonnenstich.

Wobei man das nicht ausschliessen kann wenn ein Aussie das in englisch denkt wenn du nach Kruger fragst.
Solche Fragen stellt man nicht hier sondern im Muenzthread aber da bist wohl zu faul um dort zu fragen.
Pfirty,einer muss ja was sagen sonst werden wir hier zugemuellt.
Lese mehr und frage weniger....
XEX
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SA politics are 'a joke'
2007-12-9 09:18
Cape Town
As South Africa contemplates the deadly serious business of who will head its fledgling democracy, satirists have no shortage of material for gags designed to cut their leaders down to size.
Whether lampooning ANC leadership hopeful Jacob Zuma for trying to beat Aids by showering, President Thabo Mbeki as being stuck in an ivory tower or the country's police chief as a mafioso, cartoonists and stand-up comedians hack away relentlessly at the indiscretions of the powers-that-be.
But the laughs and innuendos mask only superficially the need for sober reflection as these modern-day court jesters hold the mirror up to South Africans grappling with the very essence of their 13-year-old democracy.
"The satirist in South Africa today has become probably more of a psychiatrist than an entertainer," reflects comedian Pieter-Dirk Uys, whose female alter-ego Evita Bezuidenhout has kept generations of South Africans in stitches.
"There is something very therapeutic about laughing at fear," he said.
And so Uys and others poke fun at such serious topics as Mbeki questioning whether HIV causes Aids and the sexual antics of Zuma who is favourite to unseat Mbeki at the helm of the governing ANC this month and thus place himself in pole position to become the next head of state.
Another popular target is Health Minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang whose touting of vegetables to help combat Aids has won her the nickname Dr Beetroot.

Award-winning cartoonist Jonathan Shapiro, known by his signature Zapiro, sees the role of the satirist as that of a social pressure valve.
"Finding ways not to take these things quite so seriously is important," said the man who first attached a showerhead to the forehead of his Zuma caricature - a now near-permanent fixture.
This was after Zuma, also the subject of a corruption probe, testified in his rape trial last year that he showered after having had consensual sex with his HIV-positive accuser to prevent infection. He was acquitted.
"The satirist plays the role of a kind of prism that directs light in one way and turns it and focuses it in another way," said Shapiro.
"If you use humour, there is this little synapse thing in the brain that makes those insights exciting and digestible and quick and full of impact."
He has taken to drawing Tshabalala-Msimang as any of a variety of vegetables, Mbeki as a "Stalin lite," and Police Commissioner Jackie Selebi with a "long arm of the law" encircling his alleged friends in the criminal underworld.

In a frocked and bejewelled appearance at the Cape Town Press Club, Bezuidenhout had her audience rolling with laughter when she recently launched a mock bid for the presidency.
Known fondly as "Tannie (Auntie) Evita," the 72-year-old fictional grand dame married an apartheid-era National Party cabinet minister and was herself an ambassador for the whites-only regime before swearing off her theoretically bigoted ways.
She claimed to enjoy the company of polygamist Zuma, saying: "He has always treated me with great respect, although I've never been alone with him in a room for more than a minute."
Zuma, she added, "always asks me to call him by his Zulu name, Innocent".

On Mbeki, generally perceived as an aloof autocrat, she declined to go into detail "because as you know there is no detail".
The apartheid regime had done Mbeki a disfavour, she added, for not having jailed him and thus robbing him of struggle credentials.
"Everybody in the ANC was in jail, following Nelson Mandela's example. As a young man, Thabo Mbeki threw stones at police cars and the police threw them right back. We didn't think he was important."
While Mbeki had no sense of humour and Zuma laughed only because he was the joker, South Africa's first black president Nelson Mandela understood the value of a good laugh, said Bezuidenhout.
"To form a government with the people who locked you up requires one hell of a sense of humour."
On a more serious note, Uys contended that freedom of speech was under threat, citing a R10m defamation suit by Zuma against Shapiro.

While the ANC government did not censor the media as its apartheid predecessor did, the signs were worrying and the guarantees fragile, he said.
"There is a certain sinister symmetry (with the apartheid state)," echoed Shapiro - citing ANC control over the output of the public broadcaster SABC and party officials' regular condemnation of an "unpatriotic" press.
Added Bezuidenhout: "The day we allow democracy to happen behind closed doors is the day we go back to the old days. Nobody wants to go back."
Keeping South Africans interested and engaged was the only way to fight this phenomenon, she said, and vowed to keep doing her part.
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Bin gerade in Kapstadt und suche Panda Baeren

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7oZd2xLIu8
Das musst du suchen....jetzt haben wir wieder einen unoetigen thread mehr auf dieses seite...

Schau mal auf die gelben Seiten wo der naechste Laden ist, die Leit san sowas von faul das sie gleich hier anfragen.
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@Milly..hier was vom Stadel
Kennst den Video ?:

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Lenz.... :D....you better believe it !
The Bush $$$roller....funny poster !

Coolhand :D...sag der Ollen wenn man einen Bauerhof hat dann wird man gepluendert in der Krise und das ackern war umsonst.
Auch zu Euch kommen die Neger in allen Hautfarben und Nationen...
Wenn die nichts zu futtern haben holen sie das zeug gratis und auch mit Gewalt. ..... hast ein Gewehr ???.... forget it !XEX

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Na dann herzlich willkommen im Forum, hoffentlich bringt der Jupiter Glueck wenn er sich mit Pluto trifft am 11.Dezember.
Finde ich nett wie ihr Coolhand beratet damit seine Olle zustimmt bei Gold ....
Sag ihr wenn Gold nicht bei 1000 USD ist in 2008 dann spuelt er ab und putzt die Fenster.

Wenn das nicht wirkt viel den Eichelburg lesen.

http://www.hartgeld.com/ .....dann kriegt sie sofort Angst und kauft sofort Gold.

Kennt ihr den Spruch ?...Der das Gold hat, macht die Regeln !

Mit meiner Kohle kaufe ich was ich will, ich lasse mir da nichts vorschreiben, sonst wird man schnell als Waschlappen abgestempelt.

Und dann rennts weg zum Farmer...

Gruss
Eldo