Thai Guru's Gold und Silber ... (Informationen und Vermutungen)

Man kann ja nur abwarten oder kaufen falls man glaubt es ist nun am Boden. Experten , ja davon gibts genug, man muss immer noch seiner eigenen Bauchgefuehl folgen wenn es um kaufen oder verkaufen geht.

Mfg

XAX

Aladin,

was meinst Du.. bei den aktuellen Oelpreisen (Brent Crude Oct z.Z. bei 68.60 $ an der IPE !) duerfte psychologisch ein Boden fuer Gold gefunden sein. Bin eben einige Futures long gegangen im Dec Gold.

Hoffen wir mal auf Gegenreaktion - aber meine stops sind sehr eng (430 fuer dec Gold, aktuell 434)

mfG

Ghost, ich habe es auch im anderen Thread erwaehnt, die lows von vorhin waren der Boden fuer Gold und Silber. Das Rad dreht sich "momentan",ich hatte soweit recht mit, die 429 $ halten.
Das stinkt ja zum Himmel, nach Katrina geht Dollar hoch und Gold runter.
Die haben nun ihre Munition verschossen diese Woche, diese Saubande.
Deine 420 $ sind zu weit unten angesetzt IMHO.
Bei Ladenschluss sollten wieder 432 USD da sein IMHO.
Und Silber bei 6.79 USD, schaetze ich mal.
Hoffe der HUI steht wieder ueber 200, XAU 94, das ist mir am wichtigsten im Moment. Der Rest ist reines Crimex Specs Games was dort getrieben wird.So etwas dauert nicht lange,dann kommen die physical buyers angeflogen wie die Fliegen bei solchen Preisen.
Sche....e, an solchen Tagen wie heute fehlt mir meistens die Munition.

Anyway, expect the unexpected.

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"This is technical and there's no fundamental change in the gold market," Nickas said. "Down the road, it's still a bull market."

Thanks Edel Man, so ist es gelaufen !

Der Guru hat nur eines im Kopf,vorhin kam diese Nachricht:

DEAR MEMBERS,
OIL IS NOW TRADING AT $70.80, MAXIMUM RISK FOR OIL IS $71.10, WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GO SHORT ON OIL, NATURAL GAS, HEATING OIL, UNLEADED AND GOLDMAN SACH COMMODITY INDEX (WHICH IS FOR OIL).

ONCE AGAIN I CONFIRM THAT WITH IN SIX WEEK OIL WILL REACH IN FIFTY'S.

Jetzt kommen schon die ersten Vorschlaege Kohle in Benzin umzuwandeln in Amerika.
Die Kosten waeren ca. 35 Dollar/Barrel.Man hat Kohle fuer die naechsten 100 Jahre und waere gleichzeitig unabhaengig von den Arabs.

Ein Freund von mir sagt immer am besten ist es heutzutage alles zu leasen oder mieten, auch die Frau hat er nicht gesagt.

" Schelm, der Schlechtes dabei denkt "!

Liechtenstein fund prepping for $600/oz gold
By: Gareth Tredway
Posted: '30-AUG-05 07:00' GMT © Mineweb 1997-2004

JOHANNESBURG (Mineweb.com) -- The €55-million Top Gold fund in Switzerland has increased its South African gold exposure over the last few months to 35% of its total funds invested. This is according to one of the funds managers, Jean-Pierre Schumacher, who says Top Gold believes gold will hit multi-year highs next year.

“Gold will hit $600/oz next year, whether it hits $500/oz before the end of this year, we’ll have to wait and see.”

Schumacher points out that global economic and political factors will continue to deteriorate into next year. At the same time, he says, “Asia remains a big buyer.”

In September, GFMS in London, is due to release its update on gold demand, while Paul Walker, the chief executive, recently told Mineweb that demand out of the East remains robust.

Schumacher adds that another key fundamental pushing gold higher is the new recovery highs reached by the yellow metal versus the world’s major currencies, with all gaining around 10% in the past few months.

In Swiss francs, gold has shot above the F550/oz level from around F500/oz in February. In yen gold is trading around ¥48,000/oz from below ¥45,000 in January. In euros, gold is hovering around its June 23 high of 366/oz, compared to 330/oz earlier in the year.

If one looks at the oil:gold ratio it also suggests a much higher gold price is required to match the oil price jump, or it could suggest that oil is overpriced.

Ferdinand Lips, the other manager of the fund, is a non-executive on the board of Western Areas, one of the three Kebble companies that are under shareholder pressure to restructure. The other two are JCI and Randgold & Exploration.

Schumacher says that being an investment fund, Top Gold does not get involved in the politics of these companies. Plus they only make up 3% of the fund combined. “Despite this I think there is tremendous value in those companies, but the communication to shareholders is below average,” says Schumacher.

Lips sits on the boards of uranium and gold hopeful, Aflease. Schumacher is a non-executive director of gold junior, Simmer & Jack.

Schumacher says the biggest potential Top Gold sees is in Simmer & Jack (Simmers). “We see Simmers as one of the biggest opportunities since Randgold Resources was born,” says Schumacher.

Simmers recently arranged a $10 million financing and royalty deal with Canadian listed Aberdeen to purchase the North West gold mines that DRDGold liquidated earlier this year. Schumacher explains why the money came from North America. “I think Canadian investors react faster to the potential in South African assets than others do,” he said, “It takes people time to understand the importance of a good deal.”

Top Gold currently owns 27% of Simmers, after it entered a scrip lending arrangement with JCI and the Simmers rights issue was complete. In an announcement last Thursday, Simmers said it is now 32.9% owned by European gold funds.

Another Swiss fund is the Rand Fund, a SwFr10-million fund investing in South African and African gold and platinum miners. Nearly a quarter of the fund is invested in American listed Centurion gold, a junior gold producer that recently said it had received a takeover offer from an unnamed company for double its shareprice.

No word yet but sources say an announcement is due out within a couple of weeks.

The next biggest shareholding in the fund is Harmony Gold, making up 17.8% and Gold Fields making up 8.1%.

The rand fund forecasts a R3,200/oz (R102,882/kg) gold price by year’s end.

So, what happened yesterday ?

GO GATA!!!

The London AM Gold Fix was $436.15, down just 15 cents from Monday afternoon’s Comex close.

The Gold Cartel has played out its orchestrated script once again. What you have here on the Comex is a cabal owned Casino that rigs the roulette wheel and steals money from its patrons. It is nothing more than white-collar theft. Salute these bums for making money? Why, do you salute the Mafia? When caught, the Mafiosi are thrown in jail. Why should it be any different for the Gold Cartel crooks? GATA has caught them. The Comex has become nothing more than a racketeering operation and has been that way for many years now.

Yesterday MIDAS went into very specific detail on The Gold Cartel’s Sunday evening activities and how they were moving in to butcher the gold price with their ramping up of the dollar (when the news was overwhelmingly dollar negative). It has been so obvious what The Gold Cartel was trying to accomplish, I didn’t think they could get away it for the fifth time in less than a year. Wrong on this score MIDAS.

Last evening the Working Group on Financial Markets and The Gold Cartel began chipping away again at the foreign currencies like they did on Sunday night in preparation for this morning’s rape of the gold bulls. With oil headed for the moon and the damage in the US Gulf catastrophic (and quite negative for the US economy), the cabal forces went in for the kill and moved further to flush out the heavily long funds. The cabal’s motive was obvious and they used their usual See Spot Run tactic again. Look kindergarten American public:

"Oil is soaring to $70 per barrel, natural gas is going bananas and commodity prices are making new 25-year highs. However, this is not inflationary and of no real concern, just look at the falling gold price."’

Is that retarded, or what? The sick part is this is just how Planet Wall Street will report all of this. In addition, they will blame the speculators for the collapse of the gold price. It is beyond absurd.

Yet, it is even more Machiavellian than that. The last thing the Orwellians want is the US intermediate and long-term interest rates to soar in reaction to soaring inflation in the US.

They want to prevent, as much as possible, an economic/stock market debacle – which could easily kick in due to recent developments. Not only will sharply higher interest rates hurt the stock market, they will bury the real estate market with energy prices surging. Were gold to have soared above $440, it would’ve confirmed the inflation scenario and affected the interest rate picture, perhaps dramatically so. With gold collapsing, they can point to how these recent developments are negative for the economy and thus justify LOWER rates, which is what happened.

http://www.godmode-trader.de/n…alle.php?ida=246492&idc=8

bitte genau lesen!!!

http://www.goldseiten.de/conte…/artikel.php?storyid=1582

und nochmal einer

Im Irak ist die Kacke am dampfen mit den zwei Gruppen innerhalb Iraks. (Bridge over troubled water)
Da sieht man wieder was passieren kann wenn einer Panik/Bombe schreit, Goldy.

Das sterben geht weiter,die ganze gegend wird ein Vietnam auf dauer, die verstanden Saddam aber nicht die Amerikaner mit ihrer "Demokratie und Befreiung", die nur wegen Oil dort sind.

In New Orleans, die Neger gehen pluendern und kriegen nasse Fuesse dabei. In der Innerstadt ist es schwarz wie hier,da moechte ich nie wohnen. (Down the Mississippi) Multirassen Resultat.

Wie auch immer, es nimmt alles seinen Lauf, es ist traurig was da laeuft im Moment.

Darum, geniesst jeden Tag ! :))

Mfg

XAX

AN OIL PANIC IN PLAIN SIGHT

By Sean Brodrick

- Hurricane Katrina smashes "Energy Alley," a concentrated
area of oil production in Gulf of Mexico that supplies
about 35% of America's domestic oil.

- White House says oil will get cheaper, but makes hush-
hush plans to increase the Strategic Petroleum Reserve by
42% to ONE BILLION barrels of crude. Why are they so eager
to add to the SPR when oil prices are high?

- Saudis reveal they won't be able to meet oil demand –
first time EVER they've admitted the awful truth

Hurricane Katrina delivered a devastating blow to America
even before it slammed into Louisiana. The Massive storm
smashed through "Energy Alley," a concentrated area of oil
rigs off the coast that supply about 35% of America's
domestic oil production and 20% of its natural gas. It
damaged much of our nation's oil production.

At the same time, workers rushed to shut down the offshore
Louisiana Offshore Oil Port, which processes loads from
tankers too large for mainland ports. The LOOP is the
nation's largest oil import terminal, handling 11% of U.S.
imports. And refiners shut down more than a million barrels
a day of production as they braced for the impact from the
monster storm. Those refineries will probably be out for at
least two weeks, setting the stage for a potential gasoline
shortage.

Panicked oil traders are pushing oil prices over $70 per
barrel. And now for the really scary part. A devastating
hurricane strike at America's oil and gas operations in the
Gulf of Mexico is just one of the major forces that could
send oil to $80 ... $100 ... $150 a barrel. Other forces
that could send oil prices surging are potentially much
more serious...and permanent!

The Saudis are the "central bank of oil," right? So how
come the central bank is scrounging for loose change under
the couch cushions?

Earlier this month came news that Saudi Arabia hired five
Rowan jackup oil rigs for drilling offshore oil wells on a
three year contract. Those rigs are currently under
contract in the Gulf of Mexico, so that means Saudi Arabia
outbid somebody to get those rigs – and rig rates have
already run up to obscenely high levels – 30% to 50% more
than a year ago.

Drilling for oil underwater is very expensive. You'd expect
the Saudis to be drilling out their cheapest oil first.
Don't they have a desert full of this stuff? So why are
they suddenly digging deep for underwater oil, and willing
to pay a premium to do it?

Unless... maybe the Saudis don't have as much oil as they
say they do.

We already know that the Saudis have confessed that OPEC
won't be able to meet western oil demand in 10 to 15 years.
I'm starting to think they might come up short a lot sooner
than that.

Are the Saudis lying? Well, at least it seems like they're
not telling the whole truth. What's more, I believe there's
a whole lot our own government isn't telling us. I'll get
to that in a moment. First, some ugly facts...

· The world uses a BILLION barrels of oil every 12
days. Do we find a billion barrels of oil every 12 days?
NO! In fact, if everything goes perfectly, we'll find just
30 million barrels of oil in the same time period. If
things go badly, we'll find less. Much less.

· The global depletion rate runs at least 5% a year,
perhaps much higher , as once-reliable sources of oil are
in serious decline. Oil production in Britain fell the
steepest of any country last year, with production in the
once-prolific North Sea falling by 10% (230,000 barrels per
day) last year ... Production in Alaska's Prudhoe Bay has
fallen 75% from its peak in 1987 ... Iraq's oil production
is still half of what it was before the war ...Mexico's
production is declining so quickly it will have to start
importing oil in the next 10 years!

· The U.S. Energy Information Agency has fallen in line
with the International Energy Agency and admits that oil
demand will exceed supply starting in the fourth quarter of
this year. Total world demand is expected to be 86.4
million barrels per day, according to the EIA, while total
world supply is expected to be 85.4 million barrels per
day. The EIA ups the ante by saying there will be a
shortfall in the first quarter of 2006 as well.

Publicly, the White House urges calm and predicts that oil
prices will retreat from their current high levels. But
privately, the U.S. government is quietly planning to add
to existing oil reserves at a furious pace. ...... etc etc.

Selten ein Nachteil ohne Vorteil, die Crimex hat eine Pause noetig.
Is the flushout over now ?.... , I guess it is.

ich habs schon manchmal schwer da will ich ein eschter goldbug werden und versteh immer nur die hälfte
ich muss noch viel lernen aber wo fang ich am besten an? gibts eine monatliche zeitschrift der goldbug oder sowas wo ich alles lernen kann und dann als grosser anleger ins jahr 2006 starten kann?

jeden tag das gleiche ab 213 ist der hui long vorher zählt garnich