Thai Guru's Gold und Silber ... (Informationen und Vermutungen)

gogh

Horstwalter soll mal weiter den Moralapostel spielen wenn er will und seinen betrieb weiter fuehren mit Peter als CEO.

Dann kommt bestimmt Freude auf !

Ciao, thanks to everybody who has brains and made value postings.

I better look at some comics books before I read more from Peter Silly and Horstwalter who appears to be on his side.

Many complaint, he did nothing, what a policeman is he?.. I ask myself

Es ist schon komisch !........ wie beitraege eigentlich bewertet werden.

Jetzt verstehe ich das viele nicht mehr schreiben wollen bei der Ueberwachung mancher Moderatoren.

Na ja, und nun zurueck zu (oma/gold/peter) postings, die gefallen Horstwalter anscheinend am besten.

Am besten unbenennen auf Omaseiten Forum !

XEX

Patience and er -- faith

Richard Russell snippet

Dow Theory Letters
April 21, 2005

Extracted from the April 20, 2005 edition of Richard's Remarks

Gold -- It's not generally known or appreciated, but the 200-day moving average of gold turned up in December 2001 at a price of 304 -- and it has been climbing ever since. As of today the 200-day MA for (June) gold stands at a new post-2001 high of 427.

Conclusion -- the bull trend of gold is very clearly still intact.

Prediction -- The gold bull market will end up as ALL bull markets do -- in an upside explosion that you won't believe!

One more tidbit -- How much does the public love gold? Central Gold Trust of Canada is now selling at a 4.5% DISCOUNT from its actual gold holdings. That will change, count on it. But right now for those of us who are still buying gold (me), it's good!

Gold looking good, but gold shares still being dragged down by a rotten stock market. That will change, and in due time the gold shares will go with gold.

The current action makes the gold shares look like bargains. But I personally continue to buy the metal.

But I still hold a load of the gold shares.

Bush sees signs of shift on yuan peg New Feature

Reuters
Thursday, April 21, 2005

WASHINGTON

President George W. Bush has said that China is considering taking an interim step toward easing its currency system and that Washington wants action as soon as possible.
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An interim move could help ease rising Chinese-U.S. tensions, but Bush said the United States would still keep pressure on Beijing to "eventually" let markets set the value of the yuan.
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Some U.S. lawmakers are threatening to penalize Beijing with tariffs, but administration officials say they cannot support such legislation at this point.
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"There have been some indications that they're thinking about" an "interim step toward floating the currency," Bush said in an interview with CNBC shown on Tuesday. "We're constantly urging them, if they're going to take that step, to take it as soon as possible," Bush said.
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The U.S. administration has been offering an increasingly blunt critique of relations with China in recent days, singling out the currency dispute and threats against Taiwan.
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Bush sought to play down concerns that China was trying to crowd the United States out of energy markets. He said he did not think there was a "kind of economic war plan" but that China was trying to "satisfy a huge appetite" for a rapidly growing economy.
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U.S. manufacturers blame China's longtime policy of tying its currency to the dollar for the bulk of the U.S. trade deficit with China, which hit a record $162 billion last year. They argue that the currency peg makes U.S. imports more expensive and Chinese exports cheaper, giving Chinese companies an unfair price advantage of 25 to 40 percent.
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"Obviously we're at a competitive disadvantage to the extent that their currency won't float," Bush said in the interview, which was taped on Monday. But he added that it is "certainly not going to be a panacea to get them to float the currency."
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Bush said he did not know when Beijing would act. "It's hard for me to predict," he said. "It's a nontransparent society."
He said the administration would "continue to press" Beijing on the issue.
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Treasury Secretary John Snow, in testimony before the House Financial Services Committee, reinforced the message that "now" X(was the time for China to loosen its exchange rate.
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But he rejected suggestions from Senator Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat, that administration officials had privately signaled their support for Senate legislation aimed at forcing China to revalue its currency.
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"I don't support, as you know, the type of legislation that has been talked about that would impose a tariff on everything coming out of China," Snow said.
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Schumer and Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, have crafted legislation threatening China with a 27.5 percent across-the-board tariff unless it stops pegging the yuan at 8.28 to the dollar.
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The Senate voted 67 to 33 in favor of that measure this month. The victory - which Schumer and Graham said had caught them by surprise - prompted Senate leaders to promise a second vote on the bill before July 27 if the two agreed to drop the measure until then.
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Although administration officials have disavowed the bill, Schumer told reporters he had received a different message in private. "I have gotten signals from the administration, quiet signals, that they're happy we're doing this," Schumer said.

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/droke/droke042105_ssr.html

Silberwolke

Thanks, wenigsten eine(r) der/die es schaetzt
Normal hat Schwabenpfeil die arbeit gemacht aber der hat anscheinend die lust verloren weil ein paar idioten sich aufregt haben wenn er interessante beitraege von LMC reingelegt hat. Leider verliert man somit wertvolle mitglieder und kinder uebernehmen mit zustimmung einzelner moderatoren das goldseiten forum in dem sie idiotische threads aufmachen und jeden pesten mit doofen fragen ohne sich jemals die muehe gemacht haben die postings der einzelnen mitglieder zu lesen.

Mir ist aufgefallen das die leserzahl enorm angestiegen ist in den letzten drei wochen. Aber das kann sich wieder aendern wenn alte mitglieder das forum verlassen und kinder ihre wertlosen kommentare schreiben.

Wenn ihr alle beitraege von Peter mal anschaut seht ihr was ich damit meine. Aber dafuer hat Horstwalter keine zeit und es sieht so aus das es ihn nicht interessiert ob mehr lesen oder gehen.

Ich habe fuer so etwas kein verstaendniss !

Gruss

XEX

Gogh, sei vorsichtig, was du da schreibst,
der Pezi glaubt das alles und krönt sich zum Super Mega Mod

Ich hab ihm so ein schönes Oma Depot zusammengestellt, aber auf das geht er nicht ein.

Aber er kann ja nur frotzeln und stänkern.

Und BEDENKET:
Wenn ma den PeterSilie nicht hätten
und an Löffel,
nachher miassat ma d´Suppn
pfeilgrad mit de Händ fressen.

Eldo, keep cool!

Übersetzungshilfe: Wörterbuch Österreichisch - Deutsch,
Residenz Verlag

Tschonko

The Wallace Street Journal

They are not our enemy

April 21, 2005 - By David Bond, Editor The Silver Valley Mining Journal

Wallace, Idaho - Unbeknownst to the millions of tourists who visit this bewitching French capital at least once in their lifetimes, a giant extended finger of insolent ill will protrudes larger than life from the city's legendary skyline.

No, it is not the Eiffel Tower. We will get to what it is after a few digressions, but suffice to say this gesture of insolent ill will is not aimed at Americans. It wasn't even aimed at the Nasties.
In fact, dining over quail, cheese, poissons and a few agreeable wines with new friends and Paris' best and brightest at La Grande Cascade, we were taken aback at how Un-un-American our Parisian friends were; indeed how un-un-American the whole city is.

Paris is one of the last neighborhood cities left on earth. Paris and London each sport a population of about 12 million but there are important differences; in London, about 3 million actually live in the "City" proper; the rest are in the 'burbs. In Paris the opposite is true: 9 million of its 12 million citizens live in town. So Paris is and remains a city of neighbourhoods. Non-smokers and dog- and cat-haters would be mortified in such a place as Paris; everyone has a dog, although leashes are a scarce sight, and if there are places (other than in front of the Mona Lisa, or inside the Notre Dame de Paris cathedral) where smoking is prohibited, we could not find any. Everybody, it seems, smokes and has a dog. Reminded us a bit of northern Idaho, except even in Wallace, the health Nazis have run smokers out of the restaurants and many of the bars.

(Here was an odd scene: a group of Americans huddled in the rain outside a hotel entrance, smoking, suffering out of habit. Inside the lobby, meanwhile, a festoon of ashtrays and comfortable seating awaited us.)

We were on a mission in Paris, to establish a beach head for the Silver Revolution. It will be a tough sell. Northern Europe is feeling a bit smug these days. The Euro is exceptionally strong. (Our earlier suggestion that a quick way to riches would be to track our travel itinerary and go long the currencies of the country we are visiting has proved up nicely. The Euro, the Pound Sterling and the Swiss Franc have all enjoyed recent highs versus the Federal Reserve Not as we have traipsed from place to place on the Continent and the UK. The counterbalance to our USD's increasing valueless-ness is the rotgut low price of wines and beers we would pay a fortune for stateside.)

The French think we Yanks are a tad crackers for stirring things up in the Middle East. History may prove them right, and it may prove them wrong. The French stopped the Arabs at Poitiers in AD 736 and have been having problems with them ever since; Arabs now account for 12 percent of the population of Paris. But after 400 years of increasingly mechanized bloodshed, the Continent is ready for a little peace and quiet, and doesn't want to think about the gloom and doom of a very real looming currency crisis.

When it does, the man they'll be looking up is Paris businessman Eric Lemaire, who has launched a website, http://www.24hpm.com (24-hour precious metals, get it?) aimed at the European reader. Eric works all of those 24 hours, half in support of his family and his business (he employs about 100 people in Paris) and the other half tweaking and tuning his site. The site is available in three languages. It is more than a labor of love for the 42-year-old Lemaire; it is his passion, his plea to his countrymen not to forget the perfidies of the American and British central banks in the 20th Century, who muscled Europe's gold away from them and set the stage for planetary depressions and two world wars.

It will be, as we said, a hard sell. As often happens with new fiat money such as the Euro, a period of bliss and a false sense of prosperity ensues and people don't want to think hard times can return. Eric laughingly paraphrases Alan Brownspan: 'Yes, I can guarantee you that Social Security entitlement benefits will be paid in full. What I cannot guarantee is the purchasing power of those benefits when they are paid.' And he wonders how many Americans heard or understood the threat implied in Brownspan's words.

Eric's pitch is that silver is money, which in the French language (and about 50 others) is self-evident. L'argent means silver in French. L'argent also means money. The reason for that sameness is beyond the purview of this rant, but it should not be lost on those who care about preserving their personal or corporate wealth. Yet he pulls out of his pocket a 1-ounce triple-nine "10 Sterling" silver round and his countrymen assembled about the table at the Grande Cascade are astonished that such a barbaric thing still exists - or that it could buy a meal or a round of drinks or a couple of rolls of film in Wallace, Idaho.

He reminds his guests that it was not wheelbarrow loads of silver the Germans of 1932 were taking to the grocers for a loaf of bread. It was boatloads of paper, and hideous war ensued. In the very fine spirit of Mexico's Hugo Salinas Price, Eric Lemaire is taking silver's case to the people. And just as Hugo is winning over Mexico, Eric will prevail in Europe.

Never forget that Paris was the birthplace of civilized revolution. While the French Revolution climaxed with the storming of the Bastille on July 14, 1789 and the beheading of Louis XVI in January 1793, it had been fermenting as far back as 1715 under the rein of Louis XIV, at first peacefully, then with increasing violence (or as money guys would say these days, "velocity"). During those years much of France's nobility's gold and silver went overseas, to America, to finance the fomenting American Revolution. It's a truth many of us schooled in the U.S. have forgotten, but it is not a kinship the French have forgotten.

"Do not be mistaken," inveighs Eric as he pulls a famous illegal U-turn on the Champs Elysee, muttering "No cops." (Everything you've heard about driving in Paris is true. There are no rules and fewer laws - not even any stop signs, and no need for meaningless lane demarcations. Smart Cars snub the world. Yet there is order in this chaos, the only rule being: The guy who gets there first wins.)

"Our nation is very friendly to your people, and I wouldn't know one person here who wouldn't fight for the US if she was attacked. Paris still remembers Ben Franklin and Hemingway," he reminds us.

And though he feels alone at times, Eric Lemaire of Paris is not alone. Hecla Mining Company's Phil Baker came up to Zurich yesterday to pitch the Continent's analysts as part of the Denver Gold Forum's annual jaunt to Europe, a high-powered confab of miners and funds. Instead of devoting his allotted time to flogging Hecla stock, Baker pitched the product. What a welcome breath of fresh air. Yes, Hecla's a great and low-cost mining company, they've got great properties all over the Western Hemisphere, and blah-blah-blah. But here's the real story, the end product: silver.

The digital-versus-silver argument in photography just doesn't wash. Third-world nations developing a taste for archiving their families' histories pictorially will turn to silver film, not digital cameras, and because conservatively 60 percent of silver used in photography is returned to the supply chain via recycling, any diminuition of silver's use in film is largely zero-sum. Medicine is huge: silver is the most effective killer of bacteria known to man, and unlike pharmaceuticals, the bugs don't grow immune to it. Silver is the Third World's savior, able to purify water, able to boost efficiencies in electrical transmission, able to heal. And it has no market-rational substitute.

Europe may be hearing this message for the first time this year. And another message: silver will be higher priced and increasingly volatile over the next few years, as above-ground supplies dry up and demand heightens. "Europeans are surprised and amazed to learn about its uses," Hecla's IR veep, Vicki Veltkamp, tells us over dinner at the Baur au Lac. It will take a while to sink in. Italy has been the most receptive so far.

So keep slogging away, Eric my friend. There's no lonelier place than to be ahead of the curve. Fear not. If there's anything left of us after the U.S. concludes Chapter Two of the Great Crusades, The Yankees are coming. The Yankees are coming.

Oh, and about that big green weenie in the heart of Paris. Next time you look at a picture of Notre Dame de Paris cathedral, study the tall center spire. It sticks out green-black, tarnished, unloved in contrast to the immaculately scrubbed rest of the building. Notre Dame was constructed over several centuries, but mainly finished in AD 1345. Not until 1845, five centuries later was that big center spire erected. The French do not consider that center spire to be OEM. A tacky add-on, they think. So they refuse to clean it despite entreaties from the Vatican. Sticks out like a sore thumb, that spire, and the French prefer it that way.

In such minor acts of defiance are born and nurtured revolutions. Vive la France!

Take calculated risks !

Pursue Achievable Goals !

was sagst du heute eigentlich zum goldpreis eldo

Ueber 430 $ ,da kann man ruhig schlafen, Peter.
Der HUI koennte besser sein, ich hoffe die 190 halten diese woche.

aha siehste du benutzt langsam meine zahlen siehste die sind also garnich so schlecht aber bald wir es sehr ernst hoffe dann schläfst du noch gut eldo bist du eigentlich ein dr?

wird gold eigentlich rund um die uhr gehandelt oder kann man sagen 22 uhr ist in den usa feierabend und es geht erst wieder gegen 2 uhr in japan los?

oder anders formuliert 22 bis 0 uhr tut sich da am goldmarkt normalerweise noch was?

Cooperate and reap greater rewards !

Associated Press
Greenspan: Budget Deficits Pose Danger

Thursday April 21, 4:20 pm ET

By Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer
Greenspan Warns Bloated Budget Deficits Pose Threat to the Nation's Long-Term Economic Health

WASHINGTON (AP) -- On the same day that Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan issued a fresh warning about the dangers of bloated budget deficits, Congress considered new tax breaks for the energy industry and an $81 billion measure to pay for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The events Thursday illustrated the challenges -- "hard choices," as Greenspan put it -- that policy-makers face in trying to control spending.

Greenspan, who steadily has pressed lawmakers, told the Senate Budget Committee that unless the situation is reversed, the economy in the years ahead could "stagnate or worse."

Meanwhile, the House neared passage of legislation that would give billions of dollars in benefits to energy industries. The Senate prepared to vote on an $81 billion measure for war costs in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Greenspan's plea for fiscal fitness coincides with the deterioration of the government's balance sheets.

In 2000, the government posted a record budget surplus. Four years later, there was a record deficit, $412 billion. The deficit this year is projected to come in at $427 billion.

Even with plans to control deficits by restricting domestic spending, President Bush and Congress project that deficits over the next five years will exceed $200 billion annually. The shortfalls are expected to increase as baby boomers soon begin to retire.

"The harsh reality here is that our fiscal condition is not improving," said Sen. Kent Conrad of North Dakota, the top Democrat on the Senate Budget Committee.

"I think part of the frustration of many of us on this committee is convincing our colleagues that there really is a problem," he said. "And they're probably not going to be convinced unless the American people are convinced. And it's very hard to convince people there is a real threat to our collective economic security when the economy seems to be doing reasonably well."

In the long run, persistently large budget deficits threaten the economy because they can push up interest rates for consumers and businesses. Higher borrowing costs would effect the willingness of consumers and businesses to spend and invest.

Greenspan told senators that "the federal budget is on an unsustainable path," in which large deficits will lead to higher interest rates.

Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N.M., said Congress "overpromised" in its Social Security and health care commitments.

But he questioned Congress' political will to tackle the problem.

"I have been asking the question in my own mind. `Will we be able to solve the problem' -- that is make the policy decisions in a timely manner -- or will we in America await a failure -- a major failure in the health delivery system before we do anything?"

Greenspan repeated his support for a return to budgeting policies that would require Congress to offset future increases in government spending or new tax cuts with reductions in other government programs or tax increases.

A decade-long pay-as-you-go provision expired in 2002.

"Our budget position is unlikely to improve substantially in the coming years unless major deficit-reducing actions are taken," Greenspan said.

Greenspan touched a nerve with Democrats, some of whom are still stinging from the Fed chairman's endorsement of Bush's $1.3 trillion tax cut in 2001. That cut was proposed when the government was expecting a decade of budget surpluses.

"I was wrong like everybody else on the issue of surpluses," Greenspan said.

In 2001, Greenspan said the tax cut should be accompanied by a mechanism that would rescind the tax cut if economic forecasts changed. He said it was "frankly unfair" for people not to remember that point.

"I think it is fair to consider how your message would be taken," said Democratic Sen. Paul Sarbanes of Maryland, recalling the 2001 tax cut endorsement. "It clearly was taken in the way that I have suggested in giving the green light."

Democrats mostly blame the growing budget deficits on Bush's tax cuts, which the lawmakers contend mainly benefited the wealthy.

Republicans credited the cuts with helping the economy rebound from the 2001 recession. The costs of the cuts, along with paying for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and fighting terrorism at home, have led to the deficits, Republicans say.

The committee chairman, Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., said the cuts were "good policy" as evidenced by the "economic recovery ... and the shallowness of the recession. ... But that's history. We're trying to look forward here."

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@ eldo

hast du auch physisches gold mach mal davon ein paar schöne bilder und vor allem wen du münzen hast mach ein bild und stell es rein ich versuch das auch schon 2 tage aber gelingt nich ich glaube langsam man muß sie einscannen

Pezi das musst du meinen Butler sagen.

na dann lass ihn nur nich merken was du für erfolge mit minenaktien hast sonst denk der noch am ende du kannst seinen lohn nichmehr bezahlen und rennt aus dem haus wie der hui durch die 200