Thai Guru's Gold und Silber ... (Informationen und Vermutungen)

  • Vanescent
    ...kannst vielleicht Recht haben, mal schaun wie es ausgeht.


    @ Zeus... vielleicht kann Dir da ein anderes Mitglied helfen wie du schneller und besser an die Kruegerrand rankommst.
    Manche Banken sind schon witzig. :D


    @ Edel Man... 92 ist moeglich in diesen Jahr, 94 waere der Untergang.


    Die arbeiten doch mit allen Tricks in der Kiste und sind noch lange nicht geschlagen, also Vorsicht ist besser als Nachsicht.


    Schoenes Wochenende alle zusammen. ;)


    Just hang in guys !



    Mfg


    XAX


    Daumen hoch fuer die Edelmetall Freunde...

  • A FOUR-LETTER INVESTMENT



    By Justice Litle


    Gold has been irrelevant for so long that most investors
    ignore it completely.


    That's unfortunate.


    The precious metal's three-year advance from $265 an ounce
    to $470 is no accident. The price of gold is rising because
    its main competition, the U.S. dollar, is proving to be a
    very poor store of value.


    In other words, the gold bull market is just beginning.
    According to the conventional wisdom, there are only a few
    ways for the bull market in gold to play out.


    Option #1:


    The yellow metal's dollar price will violently launch into
    orbit at some point, arc into a near vertical crescendo and
    ultimately burn itself out supernova style;


    Option #2:


    The gold price will grind higher over the next few years,
    punctuated by sharp rallies and swift sell offs (just to
    keep us on our toes). But in either case, the gains will
    not endure. The gold price will eventually return to
    earth...where it belongs.


    Gold will return to normalcy, which in gold's case equates
    to dormancy. After all, what goes up must come down. Right?
    It's only logical. That is what everyone expects. Yet what
    if, this time, the future doesn't look like the past? What
    if gold were to climb to new highs, breaking the $1,000-an-
    ounce barrier, and never return from whence it came?
    Now that would be something...


    To understand the bullish outlook for gold, we must first
    examine the bearish influences operating against the U.S.
    dollar.


    The greenback still reigns supreme, of course, holding sway
    over all other paper currencies. In spite of all the
    pessimism and diversification talk of recent years, IMF
    figures show that dollars still make up roughly two-thirds
    of the world's foreign exchange holdings.


    So why is the dollar so popular? What gives America free
    rein to settle debts in its own currency, print more of it
    at will and impose its fiscal whims on the rest of the
    world?


    The first critical element is security, provided in the
    form of military and economic dominance. Charles and Louis-
    Vincent Gave, of research house GaveKal, theorize that the
    world's reserve currency is primarily held as a form of
    insurance in the event of crisis. Based on this theory,
    GaveKal has come up with four key requirements, as follows:


    Attribute #1:


    "The issuing country must be dominant
    militarily. And here the logic is simple: One holds a
    reserve currency for random crisis events. Wars are random
    crisis events. One wants to ensure that, in case of a war,
    one is able to buy the best possible weapons... and be sure
    that the weapons will be delivered."


    Attribute #2:


    "The issuing country must be dominant
    technologically (see above)."


    Attribute #3:


    "The issuing country must be dominant
    agriculturally so that in case of a random crisis, reserves
    can be morphed into food to feed local populations."


    Attribute #4:


    "The issuing country must be mature
    financially (i.e., have developed financial markets) so
    that in a random crisis, the afflicted country has the
    ability to raise money in the financial markets."


    By this reckoning, the dollar is more than just a paper
    liability of the U.S. government; it is backed by the best-
    in-class physical strength of the U.S. military and the
    best-in-class financial strength of the U.S. economy. This
    provides a sense of security to smaller countries facing
    greater exposure to the dangers of political unrest,
    military conflict or economic shock. When the local unit of
    exchange is being buffeted this way and that like a dinghy
    in a hurricane, it is good to have a stash of dollars on
    hand.


    Another significant element propping up king dollar's
    throne is plain old inertia. When things have been done the
    same way for a very long time, it is hard to introduce
    change. But even inertia yields to change eventually.
    So how might the dollar be toppled? There is precious
    little to work with in terms of past example. The Economist
    observes the last regime change:

    "The pound was king during the era of the gold standard.
    But in the years after 1914, Britain switched from net
    creditor to net debtor, and by the 1920s, the dollar was
    the only currency convertible to gold (although the pound
    returned to gold in 1925). Two costly wars and two episodes
    of currency devaluation in Britain later, the dollar was
    unchallenged as the world's chief reserve currency."


    It arguably took two world wars and a global depression to
    dislodge the pound. That is a fairly tall order; no wonder
    the consensus belief is that king dollar will maintain his
    throne. But for all the elements working in its favor, the
    reign of America's world-beating currency has a large
    strike against it: The profligate policies of America
    itself. While it took a series of extraordinary events over
    the space of decades to dislodge the pound, Britain never
    spent others' money with the wild abandon America has
    shown.


    To put it bluntly, the United States has taken a jackhammer
    to its financial credibility. The U.S. consumer is happily
    in hock up to his eyeballs, betting on further housing
    appreciation to bail him out, while the accelerating pace
    of U.S. government spending boggles the mind.


    Consider this: President Bush has already beat out Lyndon
    Johnson as the biggest spender of all time. The Cato
    Institute reports:


    "The increase in discretionary spending — that is, all non-
    entitlement programs — in Bush's first term was 48.5% in
    nominal terms. That's more than twice as large as the
    increase in discretionary spending during Clinton's entire
    two terms (21.6%), and just higher than Lyndon Johnson's
    entire discretionary spending spree (48.3%)."


    [Joel's Note: So, if you knew that gold was going to ramp-
    up the way it has over the past few years, wouldn't you
    have jumped on board back at the $265 mark? Of course you
    would have. Well, it's no use lamenting opportunities past.
    Justice is already onto the next charging idea. Don't look
    back in another few years and wish you got in on this one
    too. Hop in on the ground floor here:


    http://www.agora-inc.com/reports/OST/WOSTF422

    • Offizieller Beitrag
    Zitat

    Original von Aladin
    Afm ;)


    Der "" Maestro" und die Luegner wann kapieren die Leute das mal frage ich mich oft. ?(


    Vielleicht erst dann, wenn die Hälfte der medienhörigen Lemminge dort restlos bankrott ist.
    :]


    "Die Märkte haben nie unrecht, die Menschen oft." Jesse Livermore, 20.Jh.

    "Die Demokratie ist das Paradies der Schreier und Schwätzer, Phraseure, Schmeichler und Schmarotzer, die jedem sachlichen Talent weit mehr den Weg verlegen, als dies in einer anderen Verfassungsform vorkommt." E.von Hartmann

    Dieser Beitrag ist eine persönliche Meinung gem. Art.5 Abs.1 GG und Urteil des BVG 1 BvR 1384/16

  • ""Das sind die Zinsen, die fortlaufend hinabträufeln
    in die Kapitalien, welche beständig anschwellen;
    man hört ordentlich, wie sie wachsen, ""



    Die Amerikaner geben fuer jeden Dollar den sie verdienen ca. $ 1.25 aber aus. So wie die aus 100 Thaler wieder 100 Thaler machen sind es nur 100 Thaler Schulden mehr wenn es so weiter geht.


    Das Drucken haben schon viele probiert, alle sind sie auf die Schnauze gefallen, egal wer.


    Darauf kann ich auch noch warten.


    Mfg


    XAX

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    afm


    Man möchte allen Regierenden wünschen,daß sie dafür ein Gespür hätten!


    Grüsse


    "Die Märkte haben nie unrecht, die Menschen oft." Jesse Livermore, 20.Jh.

    "Die Demokratie ist das Paradies der Schreier und Schwätzer, Phraseure, Schmeichler und Schmarotzer, die jedem sachlichen Talent weit mehr den Weg verlegen, als dies in einer anderen Verfassungsform vorkommt." E.von Hartmann

    Dieser Beitrag ist eine persönliche Meinung gem. Art.5 Abs.1 GG und Urteil des BVG 1 BvR 1384/16

  • Apropos Zins


    Heute lese ich in der FAZ, daß der Anleihe-Guru Bill Gross, ein Ende der Zinserhöhungen in den USA nahen sieht. Er geht davon aus, daß es nur noch einen Zinsschritt (von 3,75% auf 4%) geben wird, dann sei Schluß.


    Das Wirtschaftswachstum in den USA sieht er 2006 bei 2% oder darunter.


    Wenn das zutrifft, sollte der Dollar in der Tat, in den Sturzflug übergehen.


    Viele Grüße


    liberty

    Es kommt nicht darauf an, die Zukunft vorauszusagen, sondern darauf auf die Zukunft vorbereitet zu sein. - Perikles

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    Beim Wirtschaftswachstum in den USA sollte man sowieso überskeptisch sein.


    Es ist durch gigantische Aufblähung der Kredite zu 2/3 konsumorientiert.


    Und hochwahrscheinlich sind die Statistiken verfälscht oder inkorrekt,
    so wie es die Preissteigerungsraten klar sind.


    Grüsse


    "Die Märkte haben nie unrecht, die Menschen oft." Jesse Livermore, 20.Jh.

    "Die Demokratie ist das Paradies der Schreier und Schwätzer, Phraseure, Schmeichler und Schmarotzer, die jedem sachlichen Talent weit mehr den Weg verlegen, als dies in einer anderen Verfassungsform vorkommt." E.von Hartmann

    Dieser Beitrag ist eine persönliche Meinung gem. Art.5 Abs.1 GG und Urteil des BVG 1 BvR 1384/16

  • Klar,


    aber wenn schon die offiziellen Daten, wie Bill Gross vermutet, 2006 so stark nach unten zeigen werden, dann müssen erst recht die Alarmblinker angehen.


    Wird echt spannend.


    Viele Grüße

    Es kommt nicht darauf an, die Zukunft vorauszusagen, sondern darauf auf die Zukunft vorbereitet zu sein. - Perikles

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    The dollar must take out the 90.05 resistance level very soon or the resulting imbalance of specs and commercials will tip over in favor of the commercials as the momentum playing funds get bored with the action and head for greener pastures.


    The loss of upside momentum bears watching at this point since the imbalance is even larger this time around. So far, the dollar has not broken down technically but it has given warning signs that it is getting tired.


    Once the huge spec dollar long position holders ditch their longs, the dollar will have nothing but air beneath ;) it as no one will be left to support it on the downside except for shorts who decide to take some money off the table.


    This action should give gold the needed impetus to break out above the band of resistance between $475-$480 and give it a shot at $500 before moving on to $529.
    Dan Norcini
    (Heute bei Sinclair)


    "Die Märkte haben nie unrecht, die Menschen oft." Jesse Livermore, 20.Jh.

    "Die Demokratie ist das Paradies der Schreier und Schwätzer, Phraseure, Schmeichler und Schmarotzer, die jedem sachlichen Talent weit mehr den Weg verlegen, als dies in einer anderen Verfassungsform vorkommt." E.von Hartmann

    Dieser Beitrag ist eine persönliche Meinung gem. Art.5 Abs.1 GG und Urteil des BVG 1 BvR 1384/16

    • Offizieller Beitrag
    Zitat

    Original von afm


    Ich bin gespannt wie Sie das prognostizierte Riesen-Finanzdebakel diesmal zu schaukeln versuchen.


    Das sind wir alle!! ;)
    Vermutlich kämen hier alle Mittel zu spät,so sie eingesetzt würden.


    Grüsse


    "Die Märkte haben nie unrecht, die Menschen oft." Jesse Livermore, 20.Jh.

    "Die Demokratie ist das Paradies der Schreier und Schwätzer, Phraseure, Schmeichler und Schmarotzer, die jedem sachlichen Talent weit mehr den Weg verlegen, als dies in einer anderen Verfassungsform vorkommt." E.von Hartmann

    Dieser Beitrag ist eine persönliche Meinung gem. Art.5 Abs.1 GG und Urteil des BVG 1 BvR 1384/16

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    Gold Watch: In a bull market "you go up, you go down, you go around"
    By Jon Nones
    28 Oct 2005 at 04:36 PM


    Gold for December delivery closed at $474.80, down 80 cents for the session, but up $5.70, or 1.2%, for the week.


    The dollar gained ground against the yen and the euro Friday after the Commerce Department said growth in U.S. gross domestic product picked up in the third quarter to a 3.8% annualized rate. Gold futures fell today as result, according to MarketWatch.


    "The precious metals are suffering from a lack of interest more than anything else" Friday, said Dale Doelling, chief market technician at Trends In Commodities.


    So "bulls will need to exercise considerable patience as we head into November," he said. "With two months left in the year I'm expecting a strong rally once this period of sideways trading runs its course."


    Gold futures were hit by speculative selling after a rise in the dollar and strong U.S. GDP data X(capped the recent investment interest in the metals complex, Reuters reiterated.


    "We're hitting stops since the euro is down 40 ticks and third quarter GDP was much better than expected," said a COMEX floor trader who added that a mix of independent brokers and investment funds had been active so far in the morning.


    "This is mainly Friday profit taking," said the floor trader. "The market was up for the week and in a bull market you go up, you go down, you go around."


    Gold is relatively firm on concerns that inflation might prompt an earlier than expected European Central Bank (ECB) rate hike and that has lifted the euro against the U.S. dollar, UBS analyst John Reade wrote.


    ýThe greenback might also be weakening due to US political factors,ý :] Reade added.


    ýThe U.S. special prosecutor investigating whether White House officials deliberately leaked the name of a CIA agent was expected to report his findings on Friday,ý Reade said.


    ýThe decision by Harriet Miers to withdraw her nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court yesterday was another sign of political difficulties in Washington,ý Reade added.


    "We continue to expect long liquidation at some point although the exact timing of this is proving very tough to predict.ý


    "Die Märkte haben nie unrecht, die Menschen oft." Jesse Livermore, 20.Jh.

    "Die Demokratie ist das Paradies der Schreier und Schwätzer, Phraseure, Schmeichler und Schmarotzer, die jedem sachlichen Talent weit mehr den Weg verlegen, als dies in einer anderen Verfassungsform vorkommt." E.von Hartmann

    Dieser Beitrag ist eine persönliche Meinung gem. Art.5 Abs.1 GG und Urteil des BVG 1 BvR 1384/16

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