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  • Greenspan, Be Careful What You Wish For


    Peter Schiff


    posted April 26, 2005


    Yesterday, [Apr 21] as Alan Greenspan warned Congress that the federal budget deficit is unsustainable, he simultaneously encouraged China to stop sustaining it. Since he has failed to forecast so many obvious looming economic problems in the past, such as the return of enormous budget deficits, resurgent inflation, and the real estate, stock, and bond market bubbles, it comes as no surprise that he also fails to realize that America's ability to finance its debt now teeters atop China's foolish currency peg. By encouraging China to remove it, Greenspan needs to be cautioned to be careful what he wishes for, as he just might get it.


    In his testimony, Greenspan cautioned that "The federal budget is on an unsustainable path, in which large deficits result in rising interest," which in his opinion "would cause the economy to stagnate or worse" unless the situation were reversed. :D :D
    However, he also commented that "Fixing the renminbi to the dollar is beginning to significantly work to the detriment of the Chinese economy." That in so doing China is "preventing the growth in the terms that would be most valuable for China in the decades ahead."


    With respect to floating the renminbi he offered the following advice; "So as far as I'm concerned, it is very much in their interest to move." He even added that "As you can imagine, we in U.S. government have been in conversations with them to indicate that, in our judgment and in our experience, they should be moving sooner rather than later. I have no way of projecting when they will move. That they will move, I am reasonably certain."


    Hello, how clueless can one man possible be? By publicly advising China to float its currency, Greenspan is in effect asking the Chinese to do two things; 1) raise the prices that it charges Americans for the goods it sells them, and 2) stop buying hundreds of billions of dollars worth of U.S. Treasury bonds. While such a move would certainly benefit the Chinese, who would earn more for their exports and find more productive uses for their savings, it would clearly have the opposite effect for Americans, who would simultaneously be forced to pay both higher prices and interest rates. Most adversely effected would be the U.S. government itself, which would see the cost of financing its national debt skyrocket at the very moment recession would likely undermine its ability to pay. Talk about putting your head in a noose, throwing the rope over a three limb, and daring your adversary not to pull!


    Greenspan is right that the status quo is a bad deal for China. At present, all that China it receives in return for much of its exports to America is inflation. Since America does not supply China with sufficient quantities of real goods in exchange for its exports, the Bank of China must expand its money supply to absorb all the excess dollars for which no American products are available. In the process it also purchases hundreds of billions of dollars worth of U.S. government securities. As a result the Chinese suffer a reduced standard of living, as they are forced to pay higher prices for consumer goods and squander a significant portion of their savings. Americans however, benefit greatly form China's sacrifice by enjoying artificially low consumer prices and interest rates.


    If China were to follow Greenspan's advice, the result would be a one-two combination punch right to the chin of the U.S. economy. The left jab: By increases the cost of Chinese imports (and those from other Asian countries whose currencies would like rise along with the Renmimbi) the U.S. inflation rate, as measured by the CPI, would clearly rise, increasing the "inflation premium" required to be paid by the U.S. government on its outstanding debts, the majority of which have extremely short maturities, and thus will have to be re-issued at higher interest rates. Also the prices of non-Asian imports, such as oil, would also likely rise, as wealthier Asians bid them up. The right hook: Since the Chinese government would no longer be buying as many dollars, it would no longer need to buy as may U.S. treasuries. Given that higher consumer prices and interest rates would likely push the U.S. economy into recession, exacerbating the already enormous budget deficit, demand for U.S. debt would be reduced at the very time it was needed the most. The result, Knock out.


    April 22, 2005
    Peter Schiff

  • Today and tomorrow is positive day for metals and if they don't move up than big question mark for future outlook of metals. One can buy small quantity of metal stocks and metals here but keep stop loss because it looks like that overall negativity from Mercury is not favouring. Sign of disconnection with dollar is there but still not convincing one.

  • Männer, laßt den Kopf nicht hängen. Wir leiden doch zusammen und wir werden auch zusammen wieder jubilieren. Vergeßt nicht, daß der HUI von 40 Punkten kommt. Wir sind jetzt knapp unter 180. Auch in den 70er Jahren lief es doch nicht linear. Sachte kann man jetzt nachkaufen, wobei ich 150 im HUI ( a la Hook) nicht ausschließen will. Und paar Unzen kann man jetzt auch noch günstig einsammeln. Eine fortune werden auch in der Goldhausse nicht viele mache, in KEINER Hausse wird die Masse reich. :)


    Nicht entmutigen lassen.


    @ Eldo: Kennst du die 10-Tola-Barren von Harmony? Wo bezieht man die? Es gab mal welche bei einem Londoner Goldhändler.


    Gruß


    Lancelot

  • House Approves $1 Gold Coin


    Wednesday April 27, 2005 10:01 PM



    By LAURIE KELLMAN


    Associated Press Writer


    WASHINGTON (AP) - The House on Wednesday approved a new gold-colored coin bearing the faces of presidents to join the unpopular $1 Sacagawea coin in circulation, hoping a new design will spur use of dollar coins.


    By a 422-6 vote, the House approved a plan for the U.S. Mint to begin selling the coins early next year.


    The bill also creates what would be the nation's first investment-grade 24-karat gold bullion coin. Intended for collectors, it would carry portraits of first ladies and a have a face value of $10 :D but sell for many times that amount at fluctuating prices based on the price of gold.


    The new dollar coins would be the same shape, size and makeup of the gold-colored $1 coins now bearing the face of Sacagawea. The coins imprinted with her face would remain in circulation.


    Sen. John Sununu, R-N.H., is expected to introduce a similar bill in the Senate.


    The Sacagawea coin, named for the Lemhi Shoshone Indian who helped Lewis and Clark find their way to the Pacific Ocean, was introduced in 2000 but never caught on with the public.


    Officials at the Mint estimate said the new $10 bullion coin could help the United States grab a bigger share of the global market in gold collector coins. They estimate that the potential world market for 24-karat gold coins is about $2.4 billion annually.


    That market is dominated now by Australia, Austria, Canada, China, Singapore and Mexico, whose 24-karat coins account for about 60 percent of global gold coin sales.


    Since 1986, the Mint has produced 22-karat American Eagle gold bullion coins for collectors in $50, $25, $10 and $5 denominations.

  • GOLD: CLOSE 4/2705: CASH GOLD: 433.00; JUNE GOLD 434.10


    1. Please review my posting of April 13 regarding gold since it still holds true today.


    2. On April 14th, cash gold went to a low of 421.70, in the upper range of the 415.00 to 422.00 mentioned in my posting of 4/13.


    3. Since then, it went pretty much straight up to a high of 438.20 basis cash ( 439.1 basis June ) on April 26th.


    4. At that point, on the daily momentum charts it was seriously overbought ( as was silver ) and had reached momentum points from which it usually gets turned back and I was very interested to see what kind of a correction would be coming up. As you well know, when the bull gets going, overbought can last for quite some time, even on the daily charts, with minor corrections, until the weekly gets also seriously overbought. As of tonight, the daily is still in overbought territory but all the other momentum periods are in neutral to oversold. What this means in the short term is that we may correct further down but I wouldn't expect a test of the recent lows of April 14th for a number of reasons which I will mention below.


    5. I view the move from the April 14 low to the April 26 high as constructive, i.e. positive, which means that we should be correcting that move and then move higher.


    6. The 50DMA on cash gold is 432.04 and the 200DMA 423.87, so we are sitting above both for now and I suspect the 200DMA +or- a few dollars would provide very strong support. This is all a technical plus.


    7. I will write about the cash dollar index below but let me say, as it pertains to gold, that just as the daily momentums for gold were significantly in the overbought category yesterday, the daily cash dollar index momentums were seriously oversold and thus the pop up in this morning's market for the dollar index. However, my analysis is that the cash dollar index has relatively little upside and is running out of time ( don't forget the dollar has been correcting for almost 4 months now ) to put on a show since with every passing day, as explained in the comments above, the twin deficits keep rising ever higher. In my opnion, we are getting ever closer to the tipping point.


    8. As mentioned in my posting of April 11, the demand for gold out of China is going to surpass anyone's expectations. On that score, it was reported in the People's daily, on April 22: " The China Gold Association ( CGA ) announced recently in Shanghai that the vocation of gold investment analyst had passed examination of the Ministry of Labor and Social Security and will become an authorized job shortly." It was also stated that: " About 700,000 people are working in approximately 10,000 gold ornaments shops across the country, constituting another footnote for the rapid growth of the industry."


    9. The US stock market is correcting a previous downleg and will soon break its recent lows on the way to 1124 to 1127 basis cash S&P. As the market breaks down once more, this will be a bullish event for gold as the dollar will be under pressure and it will become ever clearer, even to the most naive, that the federal deficit is going to surpass last years by a good margin as receipts to the US Treasury drop off like a lead balloon.


    10. In conclusion, the gold bull market is intact and is destined for much higher prices. My sense is that all major economic indicators to be released forthwith will show greater weakness than expectations, bearish for the dollar, bullish for gold and silver. Friday we get the Chicago PMI, and next week will be a barn burner: Monday, ISM Manufacturing Index, Tuesday the Fed meeting on interest rates, and Friday the Unemployment Report.


    SILVER: CLOSE 4/27/05 CASH SILVER: 7.14; MAY SILVER: 7.135; ALL PRICES BELOW BASIS CASH SILVER


    1. As I mentioned above, the daily momentums of silver were seriously overbought in the last few days and a correction was to be expected. This happened just as the option expiry for May silver occurred on April 26 and the First Notice Day is this Friday for May silver - we all know what usually happens during this time period.


    2. As I have mentioned on numerous occasions, silver is not mentioned once on either Bloomberg or CNBC - it just doesn't exist. I view this as extremely bullish for this previous metal.


    3. The 50DMA stands at 7.235 and the 200DMA at 6.97 so silver is right in the middle of these moving averages.


    4. I have two technical analysis on silver:


    i. One is extremely bullish after we relieve this daily overbought momentum condition.


    ii. The other is also bullish but allows for more time before we launch upwards.


    In both cases, we are going to 9.00 to 9.12 minimum.


    5. I'm a buyer should silver drop between 6.80 tol 7.04.


    6. A look at the weekly chart shows a huge wedge formation since March 2004 which I expect will be resolved by a take out to the upside.


    It's getting quite late once more and I like to be up early for the european markets. You already have an idea of my view of the stock market and the cash dollar index which I referred to above. I will discuss both tomorrow ( I promise ) in greater detail along with crude oil. All the pieces are falling into place.To those who have emailed me, I will contact you shortly.


    Wishing you successful investing,


    Michel de Chabert-Ostland

  • Goldpreisprognose für 2005. GFMS rechnet mit Preisen bis 500 $


    LONDON - Gold prices may punch above 16-1/2-year peaks achieved last December on renewed investor buying this year, precious metals consultancy GFMS said on Thursday.


    GFMS said in its Gold Survey 2005 that dollar weakness and twin U.S. deficits might see prices march towards $500 per ounce, which was last seen in 1987.
    "I think we’re reasonably sure that we will see a $470 or $480 target price with a distinct possibly of a pop to $500," GFMS chairman Philip Klapwijk told Reuters.
    The consultancy said world gold investment, which fell in 2004 to less than 300 tonnes, was set to surge again after recovering strongly in the second half of last year.
    "It may seem odd to claim investment was a key driver (last year) when we had implied net disinvestment and a price rise.
    But timing was crucial," Klapwijk said in a statement launching the survey.


    "The selling we saw early/mid year was in large measure just a bout of modest profit taking on the huge position built in 2003 and early 2004," he added.
    Bullion shot to its highest since June 1988 in December at $456.75 — with dollar weakness against the euro seen as the dominant driver as it made the metal more attractive for non-U.S. investors.


    GFMS expected a positive investment climate to persist in 2005 despite a lukewarm performance by bullion prices so far this year, with fund flows into commodities seen lifting gold.
    Bullion is currently trading just above $430.
    "The scale of fund investment in commodities is still tiny compared to other, mainstream, assets such as stocks and bonds, which, conversely, are unlikely to perform well this year given the high probability that economic growth slows and inflation picks up a little further," the report said.
    The survey noted robust jewellery fabrication in the face of higher prices, with double-digit gains posted in key markets including India, Turkey and China.
    "Looking to this year, 2005 has started brightly, confirming that many price sensitive markets have acclimatised to dollar prices in the $420-$435 region," it said.


    Middle East demand was also expected to figure in the mix for physical demand, particularly if economic conditions were further fuelled by high oil prices and a slackening of geo-political tensions.
    Global mine output, which fell five percent in 2004 to an eight-year low of 2,464 tonnes, was seen recovering four percent in 2005 to 2,570 tonnes.
    "Stripping activities, unfavourable weather conditions, operational delays and mine closures strongly contributed to the largest drop in annual mine output since 1943," the report said of last year’s slide.
    Official sector sales were seen increasing to 500 or even 550 tonnes in 2005 after dropping back last year, Klapwijk said
    .
    "But, it looks like 250 or so tonnes have already been sold in the first quarter (of 2005) and that’ll take a huge amount of pressure off prices," he added.
    Much of last year’s official sales were attributed to Europe’s Central Bank Gold Sales Agreement, which limits official disposals by its signatories. But opportunistic selling on higher bullion prices had been noted, GFMS said.
    Producer buy backs — another key factor behind rising gold prices — were expected to continue after reaching a record of just over 440 tonnes in 2004, with global de-hedging forecast at between 280 and 330 tonnes this year.


    Quelle: http://www.businessday.co.za/a…markets.aspx?ID=BD4A40251

    „Die Menschen sind so einfältig und hängen so sehr vom Eindruck des Augenblickes ab, dass einer, der sie täuschen will, stets jemanden findet, der sich täuschen lässt.“ (Niccolò Machiavelli)

  • Zitat

    Original von Eldorado
    House Approves $1 Gold Coin


    Officials at the Mint estimate said the new $10 bullion coin could help the United States grab a bigger share of the global market in gold collector coins. They estimate that the potential world market for 24-karat gold coins is about $2.4 billion annually.



    Stell Dir vor, die produzieren so viele Münzen, und keiner will se :D


    Die Amis sind sicher die ersten, die die Legierung unbemerkt zu strecken versuchen :rolleyes: Da laß ich doch lieber die Finger von, von diesen Schurkenstaaten kauf ich keine Münzen :))

    Der Horizont der meisten Menschen ist ein Kreis mit dem Radius 0. Und das nennen sie ihren Standpunkt :D (Albert Einstein)

  • Petzi du freust dich immer wenn die preise fuer gold und silber fallen.
    Das weiss mittlerweile jeder, ist schon ok wenn du dollar fan bist,einer muss es ja sein. :D
    So und nun schau dir wieder die kerzen an,die brennen heute ganz fuerchterlich hell. Muss ja zweite Weihnachten fuer dich sein. :P


    Gleich brennt der Christbaum ab mit dem ganzen Silber und Gold Kugeln bzw. Lametta.

  • @ Petzi


    Sei mal genauer mit deinen Vorraussagen nicht nur etwas in den Raum schmeissen.


    Du hast geschrieben:


    heutiger schlußkurs unter 422$ dann ist das nächste ziel 410$ und ich glaube nicht das wir dann unten sind
    fortsetzung folgt .......end


    Na wann kommt die Fortsetzung ? ?(


    So wo ist der Tiefkurs von Gold, Silber, HUI, XAU ???


    Das waere mal interessant zu wissen, wenn du recht hast dann gebe ich dir einen Stern, ok ? ;)


    Lebende Foren Legende hoert sich so und so deppert an.
    Noch lebe ich, bei 175 HUI ! :] oder 10bar :D


    Gerade noch auf Schnorcheltiefe ! :D


    Gruss


    Eldorado

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