Yo, dem würde ich mal die alten Sachen von Abba und Alphaville vorspielen und zu guter letzt die Neue von Depeche Mode.
Da hat der alte gelenkte Sack wenigstens eine schwachen Eindruck der neuen Welt.
Aber besser wäre íhn bei mir vorbeizuschicken!
Allerdings würde das Folgen haben. Ich möchte nicht näher darauf eingehen. Aber es wüede zzumindest...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Hallo, Edel Man,
Sicherlich nicht, warte ab, bis dieses Bein steht, dann eine
Gegenbewegung, dann ein erneutes Bein. (Kann nicht ausschliessen,
das noch ein weiteres folgt).
Das Bäumchen-rüttel-dich-Bäumchen-schüttel-dich hat erst angefangen.
Erwarte noch mindestens eine weitere Aktion.
Also, Ruhe bewahren, konzentriert beobachten und dann im richtigen
Moment loslegen.
Aber nicht gleich auf den ersten Waggon - und mit vollem Pulver
springen. Dieser Zug wird mehr als einen Waggon haben.
Vermutlich wird in den nächsten 3-4 Handels-Tagen ein bisschen von Panik
aus dem allgemeinen Markt rüberkommen.
Macht nichts, Segeln ist erst bei starkem Wind richtig schön.
Man sollte sich auch nicht vom Überwinden von Widerständen nach
unten Irritieren lassen. Das ist immer der Bereich, wo viele
verunsichert werden. Quatschkram, schliesslich sind es nur Widerstände,
keine Mauern.
Also, es wird gewiss noch spannend, kann auch verdammt spannend
werden. Aber wie heisst es: "Dem Mutigen gehört die Erde"
Soo, war ein verdammt langer Tag.
Ich wünsche eine Gute Nacht
Gruss
Germany
Mag heute beim Marktgeschehen übersehen worden sein.
So langsam kriegt man für die Silber-Verleihung mehr Zinsen als
für die 30jährigen - natürlich nur wenn man so dumm ist, es zu verleihen.
(Gold, Silber und Frauen verleiht man nicht, punktum)
Germony
Rise of the gold standard
The gold standard shall, like the mythological bird Phoenix, rise from its ashes when the regime of irredeemable currency forced on the peoples of the world will self-destruct, as the time-bomb of ever-increasing unpayable debt, having reached critical mass, goes off. The born-again international gold standard will be complete with its natural clearing system, the international bill market. Advocates of the so-called 100 percent gold standard display a most profound ignorance of monetary science when they naively think that the clearing system of the new gold standard will consist of fleets of cargo planes flying gold around the world to satisfy their taste for purity.
There is a great urgency to have a national debate on the burning questions how to prepare for the cataclysmic collapse of the regime of irredeemable currency that is now threatening the world. It is inexcusable that some people are trying to smuggle in their own petty agenda and derail the orderly discussion of the main issue, the study of the operation of the gold standard in depth, including its clearing system the bill market, and its signaling system the discount rate (as distinct from the rate of interest).
The second coming of the gold standard and the bill market is inevitable, despite the charlatanism of the opponents of real bills. Their 100 percent gold standard will be rejected 100 percent by events as they unfold.
Financial Advisors,the Anti Goldbug, he was here yesterday 
Did you ever stop to think how many people make a living from 'advising' others? Take your car into a dealership, and the service manager will advise you how to get it fixed. Go to a doctor to get advised, or to a health food store for advice. Weight losers are subject to untold advice, as are gym and exercise aficionados. Photo stores will advise you as to which film or camera to buy, and the plant store will advise on what to buy and plant. Advice is plentiful, whether it's from a marriage counselor, psychiatrist, psychologist, or roofer...... or a Screener who tries to tell you Gold is going to 348 USD. 
Now, if Mrs. Smith had bought gold four years ago, she would have profited by 75% by now, or 18.75% per year. She wouldn't have had to pay a fee for "managing her money," and she would be out of dollars, and into another denomination, which is ounces of gold. If she had bought silver, she would be 90% ahead or 22.5% a year. If Mrs. Smith has placed her $30,000 in a bank savings account four years ago, she would now have $31,218 and the $218 would be taxable. If she had bought gold, she would have $52,500, or with silver, she would have $57,000. How much advice and planning goes awry? A lot of it, believe me! Joe Blow stocks may fall out of bed, or Suzy Smith's bonds may default. Look people, General Motors stock was $84, four years ago, and now it is struggling to stay above $20. They lost $1.6 billion the first quarter of this year! Wal Mart stock is not much more than half of what it was four years ago, and Ford isn't any better at about $8. Lots of bonds have failed as well.
http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest_05/stott102005.html
Have a nice trading day, I'll take a long weekend before I start all over again.
Anyhow,
GOLD
Gold needs to break $468.50 for further gains to $472.20. On the lower side a consolidated fall below yesterday’s low of $462.00 will result in a test of $456.60.
SILVER
Silver needs to break $774.00 – 778.00 zone for $788.50. On the lower side $744.00 is the key medium term support and a daily close below the same will result in further losses else the downside will be limited for silver.
Lets see what happens today. 
Mfg
XAX
Hurricane Wilma roars toward Mexico and US
Sofia Miselem ,Cancun, Mexico
20 October 2005 02:39
A monstrous Hurricane Wilma barrelled toward Mexico and the storm-weary United States coast on Thursday, forcing tens of thousands to flee coastlines after it mushroomed into the most powerful storm recorded to date in the Atlantic.
The US National Hurricane Centre (NHC) said the "extremely dangerous" behemoth had weakened slightly to a category-four hurricane, packing winds of 240kph, as it continued to swirl toward Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, which is popular among European and US tourists.
However, the NHC said Wilma "could regain category-five intensity", pushing wind speeds closer to 280kph, as they were clocked on Wednesday. Five is the top category on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale.
"The storm is very powerful and very threatening," said Mexican President Vicente Fox, adding that authorities are prepared for its impact.
Cuba started to evacuate 235 000 people, while tens of thousands of tourists were ordered out of Cancun, Mexico, and the Florida Keys island chain.
Mexican authorities ordered the evacuation of more than 33 000 tourists vacationing in two islands off Cancun, Isla Mujeres and Holbox, and from the Punta Allen laguna south of here. Another 70 000 in Cancun itself were advised to leave the area.
Quitana Roo state, on the eastern edge of the Yucatan peninsula, which includes the resorts of Cancun and Cozumel, was put under a red alert by Governor Felix Gonzaelez to prepare for Wilma's fury.
The storm also forced the cancellation of the MTV Video Music Awards Latin America ceremony, planned for Wednesday night in Cancun.
The peninsula could be hit by hurricane conditions in the next 24 hours, according to the NHC, which warned that "preparations to protect life and property should be rushed to completion".
"All those here should take necessary precautions: first, tourists should return to their cities of origin; second, homes and boats should be secured," said Roberto Vargas, a civil protection official in Cancun.
The NHC warned that Yucatan could be hit by storm-surge flooding of 2m to 3m above normal tide, along with "large and dangerous battering waves", if Wilma's eye makes landfall on the peninsula.
Forecasters then expect Wilma to make a sharp turn to the north-east towards Florida, which is bracing for the hurricane to arrive on Sunday, and a state of emergency has been declared in the Keys.
President George Bush has been briefed on the storm, a spokesperson said, and he called on Americans to heed warnings about Wilma.
Fluctuating intensity
At 9am GMT on Thursday, Wilma was about 315km south-east of Cozumel. Wind speed had dropped from 250kph to 240kph.
"Fluctuations in intensity are common in hurricanes of this intensity [and] are likely in the next 24 hours," said the NHC. "Wilma could regain category-five intensity on Thursday."
On Wednesday, the hurricane's barometric pressure had dropped to 882 millibars, "the lowest pressure on record for a hurricane in the Atlantic basin", the NHC said. The lower the pressure, the stronger the storm is.
At least 11 people have been killed in flooding after two weeks of torrential rainfall in much of Haiti, but authorities made no immediate link to Wilma.
Widespread flooding and landslides were reported in Jamaica from rainfall sparked by the hurricane, and nearly 64cm of rain is expected to drench mountainous areas of Cuba until Friday.
World oil prices have eased, however, amid hopes that Wilma would not hit oil installations on the storm-weary US Gulf Coast.
It is the 12th full-blown hurricane of the Atlantic season, and a series of storms have left thousands dead in Central America and along the US Gulf Coast.
Hurricane Katrina killed more than 1 200 people on the US Gulf Coast after it struck on August 29, and Hurricane Stan left more than 2 000 dead or missing in Guatemala earlier this month. Dozens more were killed by the storm in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Mexico.
Authorities in Central America kept a close eye on Wilma's progress, with alerts issued in Costa Rica and Honduras, while Guatemala remained in a state of emergency from Stan. But no mass evacuations were ordered.
Florida has already been battered by hurricanes Dennis and Katrina this year, and the state's Governor, Jeb Bush, brother of the president, was downcast at the prospect of a fresh hit.
"Why us?" he said. "How does a storm take a sharp 90-degree turn?" --
Wirtschaftsdaten
/ keine
Rohstoffe
21:00 Uhr
US Cold Storage Report
21:30 Uhr
US Commitment of Traders Report (Stichtag: 18. Oktober)
Sonstige Veranstaltungen / Reden
Kleiner Verfallstag bei Index-Optionen
Quartalszahlen USA
AT&T 0.51
Reebok 1.33
Schlumberger 0.86
Xerox Corporation 0.18
Kurze Lagebeurteilung von Sinclair,die ich teile:
Grüsse
GOLD
The latest excuse for softer gold is softer oil but I suspect that simply is the obvious. Major support is right here. The dollar has bounced off four tries to break above a key level on the upside equal to .8050 on the downside when it failed there.
No, gold just got hammered fortuitously for COT who helped it along on the downside. This is a very short term situation as I see it. Every fundamental supports the price level but the Battle Royale is on. The body block $2 under $480 was a well-executed strategy. But now we are into areas where significant long term buying has existed and will again enter the marketplace.
Kurze Lagebeurteilung von goldy, die ich teile:
gold weiter short, abwärtstrendlinie bei 470,3
@all
Mit Interesse lese ich die Beiträge von Screener, der offensichtlich zu einer völlig anderen Deutung des jetzigen und mittelfristigen wirtschaftlichen Umfelds kommt.
Entgegen seinen Prophezeiungen nenn ich 6 Gründe warum der Goldpreis auch in den kommenden Jahren weiter steigen wird:
1. Gold steigt seit Juni in allen relevanten Währungen
2. Die Internationale Nachfrage steigt spürbar an und die anlagebedingte Goldnachfrage legt zu (In der ersten Hälfte des Jahres um 20%)
3.Notenbank in china stockt ihre Goldbestände auf
(China ist mit 600 Tonnen Gold unterinvestiert, ebenso wie Japan 765 Tonnen; zum Vergleich USA 8.150Tonnen, Deutschland 3.440 Tonnen).
4. Rückläufiges Angebot beeinflusst die goldpreisentwicklung positiv
(SA macht viele Minen dicht wegen ZAR Entwicklung; weltweite Minenproduktion ist im Jahr 2004 um 4% gegenüber 2003 gesunken)
5. Gold ist im Vergleich zu Röhöl viel zu billig.
Mit einer derzeitigen Bewertung des knapp 7 fachen des Ölpreises besteht eine klare Unterbewertung; eine Halbierung des Ölpreises vom derzeitigen Niveau weg wird es nicht geben....der Ölpreis mag vielleicht tempörär um bis zu 20% zurückgehen, es ist allerdings inwischen an der Zeit sich an dauerhaft höhere Preise dieses zu ende gehenden Rohstoffes zu gewöhnen.
6. Der Inflationsdruck wird entgegen dem Schlüsselargument von Mr. Screener weiter zunehmen.
Die Erzeugerpreise sind im august in den USA bereits um über 5% nach oben geschnellt was in erster Linie den gestiegenen energiekosten zuzurechnen ist. Mit diesem Anstieg wurde signalisiert, dass die Verbraucherpreise dem bald nachfolgen werden. Angesichts der Schäden des Hurrikans Kathrina die auf vorläufig 200 Mrd. US$ geschätzt werden, hätte die US Notenbank am 20. September die Leitzinsen nicht weiter erhöhen dürfen. Doch die Inflationssorgen standen im vordergrund. Nur mit weiteren Zinsanhebungen lassen sie sich in den Griff bekommen, was aber angesichts einer zunehmend fragileren wirtschaftlichen entwicklung zu einem Problem werden dürfte.
Meine Schlussfolgerung:
Überzeugende Faktoren sprechen für eine Fortsetzung der gold-Hausse in den nächsten Jahren. Solange der Markt nicht in ein euphoriestadium gerät, wird sich der Anstieg sukzessive fortsetzen. Im späteren Verlauf der Hausse wird das bisherige Allzeithoch von 850US$ übertroffen werden. Von dieser Entwicklung werden selbstverständlich die goldaktien zunächst am meisten profitieren.
und wann sehen wir diese 850?
Hallo Valueman,
gut zusammengefaßt.
Das Hauptargument von Screener die Inflation gehe zurück ist ein großer Irrtum.
Wahre Inflation:
2004 4,4%
1. Quartal 2005 5,3%
2. Quartal 2005 6,2%
also steigt sie an
Nicht zu vernachlässigen ist auch die Strategie von Bin Laden
"Stellen Sie sich die Hysterie vor, die eintritt, wenn die moslemischen Länder Gold als Zahlungsmittel für Öl verlangten! Weltweit würden die Menschen blitzartig aus dem US Dollar herausgehen ... und in Gold einsteigen!
Aber leider wird kein Gold mehr übrig sein!
Der BBC berichtet, dass Al Quaida bereits Gold kauft!
Al Quaida stockt seine Goldreserven bereits auf. Warum sollten sie auch nicht? Je mehr Gold sie besitzen ... desto weniger bleibt den Vereinigten Staaten übrig. Und ich kann Ihnen versichern: Wenn die Wall Street herausfindet, was los ist ... sie werden den Goldmarkt STÜRMEN ..., um jedes Bisschen Gold aufzukaufen, das sie finden können."
also jeden Rückschlag konsequent zur Aufstockung der Bestände nutzen.
Sreener wie viel gibt du ab ??????????????????????????????
Silberwolf
Schöne Auflistung ,valueman.
Bei alledem noch hinzuzufügen:
Noch ist keine der Spekulationsblasen in den Staaten geplatzt: Immobilien, hochgepflegte DJ und S&P,Bonds.
Vor allem das Bewußtsein,daß Gold "the only real money" ist,wurde von den breiten Massen noch nicht entwickelt,
was auch mit der oft dubiosen Berichterstattung in den dortigen Medien erklärbar ist.
Es bedarf möglicherweise erst einiger der vorerwähnten Szenarien zur Einsicht.
Diese fehlt iÜ. auch nicht nur in den Staaten.
Daß in einer Superhause immer auch Rücksetzer erfolgen,wie zzt,ist normal und nötig für den weiteren Anstieg.
Grüsse
Gold may test support level
Friday, 21 October , 2005, 13:39
Spot gold prices settled at their lowest level on Wednesday on speculative selling associated with a slide in oil prices. A stronger dollar also had its effect on gold prices. Spot gold prices hit a high of $480.25, a new 18-year peak on investment demand recently. Trimming of the huge net speculative long positions in COMEX triggered a sell-off resulting in sell stops being triggered. Recent data from the US has been very supportive for the dollar.
A key measure of the US inflation rose more than expected enhancing the view that interest rates are bound to continue rising. Separately, money flowed heavily into the US assets in the latest month's data, diminishing concerns on the twin deficits. Concerns on equity markets returns in the coming year due to higher interest rates and inflationary concerns are expected to keep investment demand for gold robust at lower levels.
Spot gold prices headed lower in line with our expectations. Support at $463 gave way and prices tested the psychological support at $461. Failure to hold support here should see prices dipping lower towards $458 another important support point. Despite the recent fall in prices, trend continues to remain bullish in the bigger picture. ![:]](https://goldseiten-forum.com/wcf/images/smilies/pleased.gif "Freude"){kind=small}
And as long as $455 caps the downside, spot gold prices could test the technical objective at $490 or even higher towards the psychological level at$ 500. As per our recent wave counts, the third wave ended at $458 followed by a fourth wave correction in the form of wave A to E, which ended at the recent low of $418 and the fifth wave appears to have begun from there. A move below $448 will diminish our bullish expectation and signal the beginning of a larger correction lower.
RSI is in the neutral zone indicating that it is neither overbought nor oversold. The averages in MACD are still above the zero line of the indicator suggesting bullishness being intact overall. The short-term 8-day EMA is at $470.57 and the 34-day EMA is at $462.87. Therefore, look for spot gold prices to test the support levels and rise higher subsequently.
Supports are at $462.50, 457.50 and 453. Resistances are at $468, 473 and 478.
Die Aussagen über die Minen treffen den Punkt:
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Mining and Exploration Shares -
Most mining shares are at or below levels they were when gold was considerably lower. One way to look at this is to say the metals have outperformed the shares. Another is to think shares are much more attractive now vies-a-vie the underlying metal price. Actually, I think part of the emotional disappointment in gold bullions decline the last two days is the fact that those expressing it own lots of mining shares and not bullion itself. They've hoped that rising metal prices would lift their shares. In some cases it did, but across the board on average, mining shares, and in particular, junior resource exploration plays, have greatly underperformed. Knowing the mental make-up of the typical player of these stocks, I suspect that my belief we can witness a fairly tough tax-loss selling period is more paramount now.
While the next eight weeks or so can continue to see mining and exploration stocks under perform the metals themselves, we seem to be setting the stage for a market that could look a lot like 2003.
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