Beiträge von Spieler0815

    ThaiGuru:
    Wieviele Unzen physischen Silbers hast Du in der Zwischenzeit zu den aktuellen Silberpreisen (Traumpreise) physische Silberpositionen weiter akkumuliert ?


    Ich frage dies einerseits in Anlehnung an unsere Diskussion, bei der Du meintest, ich hätte Dir vorgeworfen, nicht danach zu handeln, was Du anderen rätst, was nicht meine Absicht war. Insofern würde mich jetzt nur der Umfang Deiner Käufe interessieren (natürlich nur als prozentualer Anteil des Gesamtvermögens, logo, daß ich nicht erwarte, daß Du uns Deine Vermögensverhältnisse hier offenbarst :]; andererseits frage ich dies mit Hinblick auf den Schluß des nachfolgenden aktuellen Textes


    @alle:

    Bitte um Beachtung des nachfolgenden Textes: Jeder sollte sich mal ernsthaft fragen, inwieweit der Text auf einen selber zutrifft: ICH fühlte mich mehrfach ertappt:


    Taking the emotion out of Precious Metals...
    and replacing it with Common Sense and a Greater Purpose
    Chris Temple
    The National Investor

    May 01, 2004


    Following the last major bull market peak for precious metals as well as gold (primarily) related shares in mid-2002, I wrote a commentary similar to what follows. The observations contained in that item, I hoped, would be taken by the precious metals community as they were intended; to help one and all, guru and investor alike, better themselves financially. To do so, I said, one needs to approach this sector, as any, with a clear head, common sense and a sound strategy. Unfortunately, those are attributes lacking in most investors; even more (and tragically) so, it seems, when it comes to investors in the precious metals arena.


    If I could pick out just one reason why adherents to precious metals in recent years have usually been so wrong in their prognostications, it's due to their using their hearts rather than their heads. I don't think there's a single investment vehicle where more decisions (and usually bad ones at that) have been made by folks using their emotions and beliefs as opposed to common sense than gold (and, most recently, silver.)


    Many a time during gold's relentless bear market of the last half of the 1990's, gold bugs threw money at their favorite investment, even as the metal's fundamental and technical behavior both deteriorated. Often, this was prompted by "forecasts" by those with a vested interest in selling precious metals-related products. Just as much, though, these usually doomed forays into metals were encouraged by those who were making forecasts based on how they believed things should be, rather than on the way they really were.


    Tragically, the bull market in precious metals that began in 2001 has, for too many investors, not changed their fate as much as it should have. Once more, people have piled willy-nilly-and usually with a grossly disproportionate share of their overall portfolio-into gold and silver shares in particular. On top of this, countless investors did so with increasing enthusiasm (and even larger amounts of money) as expensive stocks became more so, and even as CLEAR danger signs were obvious to one and all.


    Just as in mid-2002, most gold investors-and even gold pundits-have for the last few months now either ignored or denied signs every bit as clear as back then that gold (and, this time, silver even more so) were accidents waiting to happen. In particular, excited precious metals aficionados of all stripes fed the recent bubble in mining stocks gleefully, as always seeming to put in the most money when share prices became (at least for the time being) absurd in many cases. It didn't matter that valuations were way too high. It didn't matter that the rebound of the last 10 weeks in the U.S. dollar GUARANTEED that everything (including not only gold and silver, but most other commodities) that had been used to bet against it by hedge funds and others was therefore in BIG TROUBLE.


    No Siree-for most people (unfortunately) investing heavily in precious metals is a cause. A quest. It's "proof" that they are one of a precious few who know that, ultimately, our fiat money system is in trouble big time. It's their vote, often with a majority of their entire portfolio and life's savings, that the Founding Fathers were right when they voiced their own distrust of paper money, its many evils, and its eventual doom.

    And when the markets, as they have done yet again, don't "see the light," what happens? Precious metals bugs, who have just seen another substantial chunk of their portfolio's value evaporate, often go into tirades-as do some of their gurus. They holler of manipulation, conspiracies and more (much of which I indeed believe in, lest you think otherwise.) Seldom, though, do many of them cool off, take a deep breath, and ponder the possibility that it might have been them that did something wrong, by investing based on their emotions rather than on sound and clear fundamental and technical signs in these markets they love so much (and, in the cases of a few gold and silver gurus, markets they claim to know so well.)This is not to say that our own market calls will ever be perfect. Yours Truly does not pretend to claim that. However, it saddens me on a couple scores that, time and again, so many investors in precious metals take two steps forward (admittedly nice after the long commodities bear market) only to then take two or even three steps backward!
    "All right, Temple," you're saying. "You've made your point. Don't rub it in any more. What do you suggest we do?"


    I'm glad you asked. And, I want to answer that question in two ways, starting with precious metals' investment attributes and character as a crisis hedge:


    First, I suggest you come up with a modest, realistic amount of PHYSICAL gold or silver bullion you want to own, which you will hold in your possession. Buy or accumulate it, squirrel it away and forget about it. This is your "mad money" you'll be able to use as money in the event that "Bubbles" Greenspan's skyscraper of cards suddenly does fall. How much you need to have is your decision; but don't go overboard. Better yet, depending on where you live, your neighbors and your circumstances, other things can and should be accumulated for such a possible event as well.
    Next, with your investment portfolio, determine how much (as a percentage of the whole) you should have in precious metals. Since the bull market in this sector began, I have advocated for subscribers that they have a "core position" of 10%. When the sector has been cheap, in my view, on BOTH a valuation and technical basis, we've increased that significantly; most recently, we had a third of recommended portfolios in precious metals stocks, cutting back on that position to 15% around December 1 of last year, and further down to our 10% core several weeks ago.


    Does this mean those who followed my advice avoided losses entirely? No. In a long term bull market-which I believe we are still in-we always want to have at least this modest core position in carefully-selected individual precious metals shares (or, if you have no choice due to being in a group of mutual funds, in one of them geared toward precious metals stocks.) Indeed, our 10% has become 7 or 8% over just these last few weeks. However, by taking the lion's share off the table before the carnage developed, we're in much better shape to load up again once it's time for the next spurt higher. On the other hand, those "riding" outsized positions in precious metals stocks up and now back down will need to see their positions rise 50% or more from here just to get back to where they were a few months ago.


    The foregoing is as much as most people need to be successful investors in the precious metals area. Have your "mad money" in the form of gold and silver bullion. Set up and hold a core position in metals-related stocks. Finally, realize that beyond this you must be a TRADER due to the nature of the precious metals markets.


    Now, I want to talk about what really motivates me-and should motivate YOU-when it comes to precious metals as a "cause."


    What breaks my heart as much as anything at times like this where "gold bugs" (and especially "silver bugs" this time around) have been bloodied anew is not so much the realization that-once again-this could be seen a mile away, and was therefore preventable. Instead, it's that I see in the kind of people who are most inclined to gravitate toward precious metals a constituency with the potential to change their society for the better. It's a constituency, though, that usually spends its time tossed to and fro by often shoddy advice, lots of hype and-usually-zigs when it should zag. As a result, it's a constituency which spends too much of its time licking its wounds, hunkering down, etc.


    It has always struck me that most investors in precious metals have something, as I alluded to above, that the larger universe of investors-nay, even of our fellow citizens-does not. That is, a level of knowledge about the predicament that our nation-and world-are in; one which inevitably comes back to the nature of our "funny money" system. Further, many of these people-and I've met them at various precious metals, preparedness and similar shows down through the years-actually look at the subject of precious metals in a context beyond that merely of their individual financial health. This is good.
    I believe the time has come to-in addition to getting the emotion out of our investment decisions in the precious metals area-actually turn our knowledge and even passion into something positive. Something useful. Even a movement toward monetary and, eventually, social reform, if you will.


    I was sharing these thoughts this past week with my friend Steve Carr, co-founder of the Honest Money Group and an accomplished author, political activist and media expert (who can be reached for those who would like to do so at lifejourney60010@yahoo.com.) He, too, was decrying the fact that-among other things-gold and silver bugs have for too long been caught up in too much hype and hoopla, whipsawed regularly by market swings and all the rest, and have generally been lacking in any "game plan" that would both bolster their portfolios as well as the "cause" of precious metals.


    He detailed for me the example of what has recently occurred in the silver market; one which he and I are both bullish on longer-term. Recently, boosted even more by hedge funds chasing this metal's momentum and, for a time, making "dollar contrary" bets, silver soared. Finally catching up with its big brother gold, silver spiked to a July contract high of $8.49 per ounce; its highest level in many years. On the COMEX, some 120,000 "open interest" contracts were accumulated at one point recently by speculators. Each of these represent 5,000 ounces of silver; doing the math, you come up with leveraged "bets" on some 600 million ounces of the junior precious metal.


    After reaching its high, silver plunged on the July contract to well below $6.00 per ounce (it closed today at $6.09 per ounce.)

    Rather than playing in the "manipulators' ball park," Steve suggested, what if some of the people out there who got caught up in the SPECULATION over silver-and, in effect, ended up trading paper bets on the underlying metal-had done something different?


    On paper, the losses incurred on these contracts from the contract high (which came in early April) to the low of $5.55 per ounce come in at more than $1.7 billion. This would purchase the better part of 300 million ounces of the metal itself, were the price to stay static (it wouldn't, naturally, as such demand would overwhelm the physical market.) The point is, if more people who really believe in precious metals as a cause would to at least some extent be wise and accumulate the physical metal at times like this rather than chasing the futures markets and, as just happened, getting whipsawed, a couple things would happen.First, this activity alone would drive the price of silver dramatically higher; not because speculators are making paper and other derivative bets on the metal, but because it is really in demand. Second, many thousands-and, maybe one day, millions-more people would be in a position to join some of the fledgling efforts already underway to do business in a true free market by using their silver as money.


    A rapidly growing segment of the population which understands history, our current monetary predicament and the need to do something pro-active to develop an alternative monetary regimen would be a potent force! Further, as this growing number of people acquired a form of money NOT dependent on debt, NOT dependent on markets, and NOT dependent on whatever manifestation of Greenspan we are treated to this week, a true free market might actually break out! As many are already attempting and even implementing with other forms of trading regimens based on silver, gold and even community currencies not based on precious metals, people of good will can further what I have in the past called a "peaceful monetary revolution" that is way overdue.


    This and more will become more likely as the day arrives when the precious metals community approaches the asset classes it is most passionate about with more strategy and sense, and less emotion (meaning, of course, the kind of counterproductive emotion and hysteria that time and again leads to major financial losses during debacles such as we've just seen.) If you want to be emotional, then be passionate-nay, driven-about the kind of portfolio you could have by changing your approach. More so, be driven about the kind of future your children and grandchildren can have if we break out of the mold so many have been in for so long, and look at precious metals as a greater means to an end we all hope for. No conspiracy or manipulations, real or imagined, could stop millions of awakened people who realize that-at the least-they need an alternative to Greenspan's fiat money. Those millions, grounded in truth, sound investment strategies and with a noble purpose even beyond their own investment success, can change society for the better.


    Will you be on board?


    Chris Temple
    May 1, 2004


    PLEASE REPLY TO: chris@nationalinvestor.com


    http://205.232.90.194/editorials/temple/temple050104.html


    Wie gesagt: Jeder sollte mal darübe rnachdenken...

    http://205.232.90.194/editorials/appel/appel043004.html


    (..)
    Earlier, during the great gold and commodities Bull Markets of the 1970's, there were numerous brief and a few extended price collapses that tested the mettle of those participants who were aligned with the gold bull. The most chilling set-back began from the peak at $200 on January 1, 1975, the day that gold again became legal for Americans to own. It terminated a year and a half later in the summer of 1976, when gold bottomed at $103. It was a grueling, nerve-wrenching period, but it was followed by gold's march to its ultimate $875 peak in February, 1980. Each time that the bears temporarily gained the upper hand, and prices sharply fell, it similarly sent chills and tremors through the hearts of the "gold bug" investors of that era. However, in the end, massive profits accrued to those who stayed the course and rode the Bull Markets to or near their conclusions.


    ---> Das haben wir ja gemeinsam oben schon festgestellt: Siehe bognairs tolle Charts

    Golden Globes & Drama Queens
    John Mackenzie
    jrmfl@adelphia.net
    April 29, 2004


    I tend to run, not walk, when the operatic din of Gold's Advisors' begins to crescendo. At times, some of the well-intentioned Gold Bull Advisors begin an intensely dramatic stampede towards the plateau, only to fall off the high bluff along with their communal herds.


    Rather than play the "Game," they are "Played."


    Let's be honest, brutally honest about what will break the paper markets control.

    It is very simple, Richard Russell and many of the sharper advisors suggest it daily. I tell my community to purchase the metal prior to buying a single share of gold mining equities.


    Buy the physical metal, the mining equities are paper promises and subject to the whims of the market and its interventionist policy. Purchase honest money!
    Any rationale individual comprehends what Gold represents, there's little need for drama and drama queens, but intelligent and honest discourse about what potential threats abound.


    If we in the Gold Community agree to agree that Gold represents a very real threat to the Fiat Currency Regime, then we should expect to be played by these masters of global banking.


    At present, here are my observations:


    The broad market internals are now very similar to September / October of 1987
    .

    SOX either gets it in gear here and now or the Nasdaq follows through to the downside
    .
    XAU leading DOW is not bullish for broad markets... not at all, this is very rare
    .
    HUI projecting 118 (+/- 7.5) this summer, July at latest
    .
    HGX appears to be breaking down quickly, a bounce is due, but it should begin a steep decline again soon
    .
    FOMC has had its foot to the floor on the Temporary Open Market Operations. They are clearly concerned and we will have to watch and see just how aggressive the Fed becomes
    .
    Gold, the metal will lag the miners on the downside, targets are from 272 to 376, with 368, 354, 342, 330, 308 my downside targets open, with 342 to 368 probable at this point, but it's early still, if we breach 376 this week, I would suggest a lowering of implied range is open
    .
    The Dollar can rally to an extreme high, 92/94 to 104 is now open
    .
    2004/2005 will see Gold increase in price to levels I would rather not predict, but well north
    of the previous high. It will merely "begin" to approach its VALUE. I fully expect the exact opposite in the bottoming process... it will not be a process, but an EVENT
    We will need to be observant of the Dollar, Bonds and Asia. The Federal Reserve is going to enter its own version of "panic" later this summer as the deflationary forces begin to take hold. They will do what they have always done: intervene, expand credit and monetize debt.


    Once the Fed begins to hyper-inflate we can rest assured gold will be heading far higher. We will need to remain open to several potential outcomes for mining equities, bull and bear.


    (GANZ GENAU SO VERHÄLT ES SICH WOHL ! - meint Spieler )


    April 29, 2004
    John Mackenzie
    jrmfl@adelphia.net

    Aus dem Elliott-Forum - Kann das mal jemand erklären ? Hat dies, was Emerald hier anspricht, tatsächlich eine solche Indiz-Wirkung ?


    Seltsam! Obwohl Puts ausstehend für zehntausenden von Goldminen-Aktien[ Börse & Wirtschaft: Elliott-Wellen-Forum ]
    Geschrieben von Emerald am 29. April 2004 15:17:40:



    wurde bis jetzt, 15 Minuten vor Opening, keine einzige Aktie angedient.



    Entweder schlafen die Put-Käufer in Amerika oder dann werden die Minen-Aktien
    schnurstracks wieder hochlaufen.


    Ich bin am Einkaufen am Opening, weil es unverantwortlich wäre solche
    Gelegenheiten zu verpassen.


    Emerald.



    PS:
    Immer guter Dinge auch wenn's mal kräftig rumpelt in der Karton-Schachtel!


    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Muß zu Malik allerdings sagen/richtigstellen: Arrogant ist er auf keinen
    Fall - ich habe ihm vor über einem Jahr einmal eine längere Email
    geschrieben, hat nicht lange gedauert, da hatte ich von ihm persönlich eine sehr sehr lange, ausführliche Email, in der er auf alle Fragen,
    Anmerkungen usw,. von mir einging. Sehr freundlich, sachlich, emotionslos und ehrlich -Hut ab, habe ich damals gedacht.


    Allerdings meine ich aus dem Newsletter nur eine bislang nicht
    gekannte Emotionalität herauszuhören... Kann natürlich daran liege
    n, daß er eben wirklich lange Zeit absolut falsch lag...
    Ich empfinde es ähnlich, wie den Newsletter, den Weigl ausgerechnet beim Top von Silber losgeschickt hat...


    Spieler

    Zu Malik habe ich persönlich aber mittlerweile meine Meinung:


    Was würde man sagen, wenn jemand im März an die Öffentlichkeit tritt
    und sagt: Nun, Leute, zieht Euch WARM an - ich sehe kalte kalte Tage
    auf Euch zukommen, die Temperaturen werden einbrechen, die
    Bäume werden kahl werden...


    Dann hört man den ganzen Sommer über, bei 33 Grad im Schatten nichts von ihm.



    Sodann, als im Herbst (!) die Bäume die Blätter verlieren, taucht er plötzlich
    wieder auf und verkündet:
    Sehet meine Prognosen - die Höhepunkte haben wir hinter uns - Verweis auf die 33 Grad im August - die Blätter fallen ab, wie gesagt... Ich habe es ja immer gesagt...


    Tja: Und was hat Herr PRof. Malilk getan ?


    Als Gold bei ca. 340 (aus der Erinnerung) Dollar stand, hat er prophezeit, Gold werde einbrechen.


    Er meinte, so ca. bei Gold über 370 Dollar würde er über seine Prognose nachdenken...


    Als Gold über 400 stand, änderte er nichts an seiner Prognose...


    Nun, nachdem Gold bis auf 430 gelaufen war, wird ein Rückfall auf 378 Dollar gefeiert...



    Das täuscht aber darüber hinweg, daß Herr Malik bis jetzt falsch, falscher am falschesten :) gelegen hat - Schon über 1 Jahr lang...
    So falsch, wie jemand liegt, der im März ruft:
    Hurra, der Winter ist da...


    Aber irgendwann bekommt ja jeder einmal recht. Hoffen wir, daß Herr Prof. Malik ansonsten nicht weiter recht behält.
    In den letzten 12 Monaten war sein Timing komplett FALSCH. Das wollen wir mal festhalten.


    Wir werden sehen...



    meint Spieler

    Damit Ihr nicht übermütig werdet: Gold geht auf 250 Dollar !
    Lest selbst - und ich bin nicht in der Stimmung, um das ironisch zu melden - Was alles möglich ist, haben die letzten Tage gezeigt...


    Malik Aktuell



    29.04.2004
    Bearmarket-Time


    - Finanzmärkte sind anders ...
    - Bear-Rally für Gold?
    - Mehrheit ist nicht Wahrheit


    Die Finanzmärkte haben ihre eigene Logik.

    Sie tun nicht, was die Medien schreiben; sie tun nicht, was die TV-Kommentatoren sagen; sie tun nicht, was die Experten sagen; sie tun nicht, was die Wirtschaftstheorie sagt; sie tun nicht, was die Notenbanken sagen; sie tun nicht, was "jedermann" sagt.

    Sie folgen ihrem eigenen, innewohnenden Muster. Das Muster der Gegenwart heisst: Bearmarket!

    Finanzmärkte sind komplexe Systeme. Sie sind kontraintuitiv, wie Jay Forrester - und alle, die sich seriös mit komplexen Systemen befasst haben, schon vor "hundertsiebenundzwanzig" Jahren gesagt haben. Das kann durch Mehrheiten nicht falsch geredet werden. Mehrheiten haben noch nie die Wahrheit gehabt, zu keiner Zeit, in keiner Wissenschaft. Das ist kein Argument gegen die Demokratie, sondern es beweist ihre Notwendigkeit.

    Die Hoch- und Höchststände der Stimmungsindikatoren sind ein klares Indiz. Wer sich nicht immer wieder im "Contrarian-Thinking" übt, glaubt an die Stimmung. Und er glaubt an die kunstvollen Beschwörungsformeln der Wallstreet-Kommentatoren. Die meisten gehören, auch wenn sie akademische Positionen innehaben, zur Salesforce der Finanzindustrie. Sie werden dafür bezahlt, die Leute bei Stimmung zu halten. So etwas, wie eine unabhängige Meinung, ist kaum zu finden.

    Ein klarer Indikator ist auch das Aggressivitätsniveau der Meinungsäusserung. Wer es z. B. wagte, bearish zu sein für Gold, ist massiv angegriffen worden, zwar ohne Argumente, dafür aber mit umso mehr Emotionen. Was hat Gold getan? Es ist gefallen.

    Es könnte jetzt aber für eine kurze Zeit (ein paar Wochen) steigen - nicht weil die Bulls Recht haben, sondern weil es gefallen ist. Es wird ein Bearmarket Rally sein. Das wird die Bullen aber in ihrer bullischen Meinung bestätigen; das verschafft ihnen nach dem kurzen Schock das wohlige Gefühl, Recht zu haben - und es tut ja so gut, zur Mehrheit zu gehören.

    Wenn das Gefühl am wohligsten ist, werden die Kurse wieder drehen und nach unten gehen. Wie weit? Ich sage - probehalber und sportiv: in die Nähe von 250 Dollar - im Laufe der nächsten 2 - 4 Jahre. Mal sehen ...

    Eines steht jedenfalls schon mal fest:
    Die Kursschwankungen bei Gold und Silber werden
    von mal zu mal größer.
    Ich erinnere mich noch gut an die Anfänge im Herbst 2001
    Meine Güte, wie aufgeregt war man da beim Gold bei
    Schwankungen von drei, vier Dollar in die ein oder andere
    Richtung...
    Mittlerweile gewöhnen wir uns hier an ganz andere Dimensionen.
    Und was das Positive ist:
    Ich meine, daß ich vor langer Zeit einmal irgendwo
    gelesen habe in einem Board, ich glaube
    es war der legendäre Yahoo-Schreiber "Bondbroker2000"
    (der ein oder andere mag ihn noch aus dem USA- Durban Board
    kennen), der berichtete, daß es seinerzeit ab 1971
    (weiß nicht mehr, welche Jahre genau er nannte) genauso
    gewesen sei.
    Er bereitete die Leser damals darauf vor, daß eine Zeit
    beim Gold kommen würde, in der es brutal (!) Auf und Ab
    gehen würde...
    Er war ein phantastischer Schreiber damals, bis er von
    einigen Leuten wegeekelt wurde...
    Ich habe seine Postings irgendwo archiviert, muß mal
    sehen, ob ich sie irgendwo finde...


    Es bleibt spannend und
    alles wird gut :)
    Spieler

    Mahendra aktuell:


    Dear Members,


    I have been engaged in executing several important tasks and this made me unable to follow this week’s trends. Last night after getting home I found out that gold and silver had broken the important levels of $392 and $5.90 respectively. There are millions of people who follow my work and place implicit faith in me. I therefore feel that it is my duty and obligation to give guidance through astrology even during the most trying and uncertain times.


    Several people have sent me mail concerning China and the dismal outlook it presents. The fact is that gold and silver have both sharply fallen and there is no excuse whatsoever for what I see through astrology. It is easy for big-time traders, chartists and analysts to cover there past views when they go wrong but my study is entirely based on energy and movement of waves.


    Let us now explore what I see;


    Gold
    It is very hard to believe it but gold is currently trading below $379, which is way below my base support level of $390. I would however like to see for how long the situation persists with gold trading below the $390 level. As I predicted in my newsletter, Thursday will be the best day to invest in gold for the short-term because Friday will have an important bull-run. This will be a significant test for my work and we are only a short time to its commencement.


    I would like to assert that regardless of what the analysts say or the rest of the world affirms, there will be no major downward trend for gold after 12th May 2004. I also still hold firmly to my prediction that this year, gold will touch $525.

    Silver
    I expected a fall after 2nd April to around $6.80 or in the worst case, this year’s astrological low level of $5.90. However, silver is trading at $5.56 and I am unconvinced as to whether that is the real trading price or a manipulation. Energy and planetary forces do not indicate this price at all.


    If you have read my book and commentaries, In page 97 of my book I said that one could hold silver till 29th March. In my commentaries last year as well as this year, I gave a second figure of $7.95 and said that one should sell at this level. This is in addition to indicating radical fluctuations of silver in the months of April and May. A drop of 8% was to be taken as an excellent chance to buy while a rise of the same margin was to be construed to be a selling opportunity. In my book, I have not mentioned till what date in May the volatility would last. Let me now affirm that this will be up to 10th May. Whatever the prevailing prices will be, 10th May will be a good time to buy. Even for those who are buying today, they should sell if a rise of 8% occurs before 10th May.

    NOTE:

    Till 10th May, I do not recommend speculations for big amounts, because this is a period of uncertainty for silver. This does not however apply for gold.


    I still hold my prediction that silver will go up to $12 during this year. If it trades above $7.91 for 21 days, then I predict $28 for silver in the next 18 months.


    I neither write this letter emotionally nor with any intention of covering myself. There are many traders who have been trading for long and have held on that find themselves in difficulties. I will only say that tomorrow, the situation may not be the same. I never change my predictions with the change of scenarios. For instance, I still hold fast that the DOW index will dramatically crash to 7000 in the next 9 months.

    NOTE:

    Watch the power of the planets, their energy and waves especially in regard to gold. This will also play a partial role for silver.


    Palladium and Platinum
    My advice is that you still keep away.


    Currencies
    A weakness of US Dollar will surprise the world.


    NOTE
    Next week I shall announce something very important because I am taking the most important decision of my life. I believe in the long term and in the next 18 years, I shall be in the unpredictable world financial markets.


    I am with you in your pain as well as in your joy. When people are making money, they never say a word but when they lose, there is a stream of e-mails. I pray and hope that they soon recover.


    Jupiter says - Today’s investments in (gold and silver) will turn into great returns by 27 June 2004.


    Thanks and may God bless you.
    Mahendra Sharma


    http://www.mahendraprophecy.com

    Nochmals auch sehr richtig zum oben mehrfach angesprochenen ZEIT-
    Faktor !



    Auszug aus:
    http://www.321gold.com/editori…ein/wallenwein042904.html



    "When gold investors and the general public start seeing that, the gold/fiat equation will balance itself, and gold will naturally come out way on top.


    The only question is the time line. (SIC !)


    Will we as individuals live to see the day? (SIC !)


    Let me put it this way: the sun of that new day has already come up over the horizon, and the cockroaches are scampering into the nearest unlit corner. It's just that we are impatient. We want to see it all happen NOW. (SIC - Siehe mein Posting oben)


    Meanwhile we are transfixed by the smoke and mirrors of the cockroaches' "gold price" sideshow."


    Und da können wir nun zappeln und schreien: Ob das Goldspiel nun noch 1 Monat, 1 Jahr oder 10 Jahre oder länger so weitergeht - wer kann das schon voraussagen ?


    Spieler

    Frage mich nur, was diese Aussage von Sinclair zu bedeuten hat, die oben ja schon einmal eingestellt wurde - gibt er dann auf ? Gibt er sich dann geschlagen ?


    Jim Sinclair heute:


    I am adding a date now to my gold price of $480 or the web site is closed and I do not publish to the general public after that.


    The latest date for gold to trade at $480 is August 15th, 2004 or COT wins.


    Aus:


    Wednesday, April 28, 2004, 12:44:00 PM EST


    Market Commentary


    Author: Jim Sinclair
    http://www.jsmineset.com/

    ThaiGuru
    Ja, sehe ich genauso - habe mir beim Lesen von Emeralds Posting auch
    die Augen gerieben. Dazu dann gestern der Kitco-Ausfall - das und die
    anderen Ungereimtheiten, die Du schon angesprochen hast, sind in
    ihrer Gesamtheit schon sehr sehr merkwürdig.


    Aber gut: Nehmen wir mal an, daß war tatsächlich eine ganz gezielte
    Manipulation: Dann mahnt dies eben auch gleichzeitig zur Vorsicht, als
    es zeigt, mit was für Gegnern man es zu tun hat. Und wenn
    manipuliert wurde, dann haben "die" mit Sicherheit noch mehr Pfeile im Köcher.



    @alle: Falls jemand ein Abo bei stockmove.de haben sollte, dann wäre ich sehr interessiert daran, wenn derjenige, von mir aus etwas zeitversetzt, demnächst aus dem auf Warmbeins Homepage angekündigten - offensichtlich ja wohl aus aktuellem Anlaß vorgezogenen, Special oder Marktbericht die Quintessenz hier posten könnte...


    "Nächster Marktbericht: Goldminen ..where do you go to my lovely?"


    http://www.stockmove.de

    Spica
    Wie ist das jetzt zu verstehen: Hat die astrolog.Vorhersage für den 1.Mai weiter Gültigkeit = weiterer Verfall oder war es eine Vorwegnahme.
    Vielleicht könntest Du ja einen erneuten Ausblick geben, wäre bestimmt interessant.
    Danke im voraus sagt
    Spieler

    Aus dem Eliottforum ein Posting, einmal mehr geklaut vom hochgeschätzten Emerald:


    "China dementiert und Japan geschlossen : Ein Fressen f.d. Manipuleure v.Dienst !
    [ Börse & Wirtschaft: Elliott-Wellen-Forum ]
    Geschrieben von Emerald am 29. April 2004 08:50:45:



    Reports: China bank officials deny halt
    By CBS MarketWatch
    Last Update: 12:39 AM ET April 29, 2004


    <


    SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) -- Chinese banking officials on Thursday denied media reports they have banned new lending to help slow China's overheated economic growth -- reports that contributed to a stock pullback on Wall Street and a sharp drop in gold futures.
    Hong Kong media reported earlier Thursday that China's four large state banks had been told to suspend new loans until May 1 and that smaller commercial banks also reportedly have stopped new lending, anticipating tighter loan policies from the government.


    A story in the online edition of the Wall Street Journal reported an official at the China Banking Regulatory Commission Wednesday denied any halt to lending. "We didn't issue such a notice," the official said.


    A People's Bank of China spokesman also said it had not issued such an order. "We have never made a such a requirement. We have absolutely have not done that," the spokesman said.


    Yet the China Securities Journal, a publication linked to the Chinese central bank, also reported the loan moratorium and said it is scheduled to last until a weeklong holiday begins on Saturday, according to the Journal.


    Bank executives, according to the report, said the order offered no explanation for the lending halt although some indicated such a move might cause serious economic disruptions.


    China's State Council this week issued guidelines for companies in the cement, steel and real-estate sectors, ordering companies in those sectors to lessen the amount of bank loans, and use more of their own money for new investments, the official Xinhua news agency reported. The move was made to curb over-investment in those sectors, the news agency said.


    Concerns over the impact of China's effort to stem the fast pace of its economic growth are reverberating in the global economy. News the country would take steps to slow growth contributed to a 1.3 percent decline in the Dow Wednesday and a 2 percent drop in the Nasdaq Composite. See Market Snapshot.


    Gold futures logged their biggest hit since January, falling as much as $15 an ounce Wednesday to a six-month low, as investors feared that new rules in China would reduce bank lending and slacken the Asian country's demand for metals. Read Metal Stocks.


    For now, "any signs that Chinese demand will slow is seen as a negative sign by investors here, especially funds selling for technical reasons," Standard Bank analyst Robin Bhar told AFX News. But overall demand will eventually help the base metals prices recover, he said.


    Lending in China is ballooning, with many commercial banks reporting new loans growing at a rate of 40 percent a year. The government is seeking to temper corporate investment, but does not want to dampen consumer spending.


    While fears that China's economic engine could sputter dented stock markets in the United States and Europe, economists said the real concern about China is not a slowdown but the opposite -- that the country's economy would continue to grow at such a rapid pace that any eventual decline would be severe.


    "The real risk is that China doesn't slow down in some kind of orderly fashion and that is it forced to deal with constraints that wrench it down without control," said Robert Brusca, chief economist at Fact and Opinion Economics. "Everyone is hoping for some slowdown in China because it is straining resources right now," he said.


    Under a pall of worries about developments in China, declines in commodities dragged down stock markets in the Asia-Pacific region Thursday. Shares of South Korea's largest steelmaker, Posco (PKX: news, chart, profile), fell more than 6 percent by midday. Australia's BHP Billiton (BHP: news, chart, profile), the world's largest global mining company, was down almost 3 percent. See Asian Markets report.


    Japanese financial markets were closed Thursday for one of the Golden Week string of holidays.
    "

    option63 :


    Danke Dir sehr herzlich für das nette PS, das mir zeigt, daß meine Postings nicht für jeden mißverständlich sind.


    Umgekehrt möchte ich ein Kompliment für Deinen Beitrag machen, der den überaus wichtigen Faktor Zeit anspricht (hast Du evt. noch einen Link, wo man den ganzen Text nachlesen kann ?)


    Der Faktor "Zeit" ist es auch, der in meinem o.g. Posting eine Rolle spielt:


    Wenn Du nachkaufst, weil es Dir Dein finanzielles Polster oder Budget gestattet, dann kann ein Nachkauf selbstverständlich u.U. absolut sinnvoll sein. Und es zeigt dann vielleicht, daß Du sehr klug die Käufe verteilt hast. Wenn (!) unsere Gesamtrechnung in Hinsicht auf Gold + Silber über die Jahre aufgeht, dann hast Du einen attraktiven Durchschnittseinkaufspreis. Ehrlicher Glückwunsch.


    Bei mir ist es z.B. einfach so - bin wie gesagt seit Herbst 2001 dabei und halte seitdem ALLE Positionen komplett durch-
    daß ich mir selbst eine finanzielle Grenze
    gezogen habe, bis wohin ich mit einem Engagement in Gold und Silber
    gehe:


    Ich möchte in der Lage sein, egal was kommt, noch so viel finanzielles Polster zu haben, daß ich auf "absehbare" Zeit (ja, was heißt absehbare Zeit - na, sagen wir mal, ich spreche von einem Zeitraum von auf jeden Fall 5 Jahren, was kurz genug ist)
    jedenfalls NICHT GEZWUNGEN bin, meine Hardcore-Positionen, womöglich zu Tiefstpreisen, verschleudern zu müssen, ganz einfach,
    weil ich Kapital in Form von Cash (Euro) benötige, um meine laufenden
    Lebenshaltungskosten bestreiten zu können.


    Ich stelle mir vor: Was muß wohl für einen Goldbug schmerzlicher sein,
    als -gezwungen aus einer Notsituation (Berufsverlust, Krankheit etc.,), zu einem schlechten Zeitpunkt seine Gold-Positionen, ob nun als Minen oder
    -noch schlimmer- den physischen Anteil, so er ihn denn hat,
    VERKAUFEN ZU MÜSSEN ,
    ganz einfach, weil er sich zeitlich verschätzt hat
    und dann SOFORT das Geld (Cash) benötigt ???
    Ich stelle mir DAS extrem bitter vor.


    Und hier spielt eben der von Dir ins Feld geführte
    Faktor ZEIT die übergeordnete Rolle.


    Und ich meine eben lediglich, daß man immer diesen Faktor
    Zeit berücksichtigen sollte bei seinen Engagements,
    in Verbindung mit der Überlegung "Worst case",
    "Was passiert wenn..."


    Wer Millionen Euros auf dem Konto hat, wer ein sicheres (!) Einkommen hat,
    der kann sicher immer nachkaufen - Aber auch er sollte sich m.E, für ein Einzelinvestment eine persönliche Grenze setzen.


    Nur vermute ich, daß es hier auch viele stille Mitleser
    gibt, die zB nur einen einmaligen Betrag X haben
    und davon träumen, diesen zu mehren.


    Wenn die nun dazu verleitet werden,
    unkontrolliert immer weiter nachzukaufen,
    weil es ja alles so super günstig ist und man jetzt
    kaufen muss ,
    dann könnte das übel ausgehen und würde nicht einmal
    der Gold-Sache dienen.
    Denn das ist es ja teilweise, was uns Leute wie zB dottore (Dr.Paul Martin) im Elliott-Wellen-Forum immer prophezeien:
    Daß wir auf eine Deflation zusteuern,
    inder nur Cash König ist,
    in der die Massen gezwungen sind, alles auf den
    Markt zu werfen (verbunden mit fallenden Kursen),
    wofür sie noch irgendwie Cash bekommen können,
    um Dinge wie Steuern, Miete usw. zahlen zu können.


    (wobei man m.E. in der Tat trefflich darüber streiten kann, wie viele Leute
    nun tatsächlich zB physisches Gold in nennenswertem Umfang haben.)


    Darum plädiere ich nur für ein bißchen mehr Vorsicht und vor
    zu großer Jubelstimmung oder zu großer Überzeugtheit in bezug
    auf die eigene Meinung, insbesondere,
    was den Zeitfaktor angeht.
    Man ist ja geneigt, sich selbst zu suggerieren:
    Heute habe ich gekauft, also muß es doch
    morgen rauf gehen.


    Russel hat neulich einmal sinngemäß geschrieben,
    daß man nicht gegen den Markt argumentieren kann.
    Der Markt hat immer recht.
    Und deshalb , ob manipuliert oder nicht,
    sollte jeder für sich stets im Hinterkopf behalten und auch
    gerade dann, wenn man an die Manipulationen glaubt:


    Was passiert, wenn ich z.B. nur in den nächsten 5 Jahren mit meiner
    Einschätzung der Lage bei Gold und Silber falsch liege ?
    Werde ich das finanziell überleben, weil ich genügend
    Reserven habe ?
    Oder bin ich runiiniert, weil ich vor lauter Gold und Silber im Depot
    nicht mehr laufen kann ?


    Meine nur: Man sollte versuchen, sich gegen alle denkbaren Szenarien zumindest
    ein bißchen abzusichern.


    Unsere Enkel werden dann später wissen, was heute die
    richtige Entscheidung gewesen wäre.



    meint Spieler

    Was war das für eine tolle Nacht: Ich hatte einen tollen Traum und sah Silber nahe der 5,5 Dollarmarke...
    Ich erwachte und dachte: Oh wie wunderschön, unglaublich, der TRAUM ist ja schon wahr geworden...
    Tut mir leid und nichts für ungut, daß war ironisch gemeint.


    Ich werde jetzt loslaufen und mit dem letzten Geld, das mir noch verblieben ist, Kookaburras und Lunar Münzen und Silberbarren kaufen. Aber ob ich mich dannn so richtig wohlfühle ?


    Aber mal in ernst: Der gestrige Tag einschließlich dieser Nacht war ganz ganz bitter für uns alle. Denke, die Nerven liegen bei allen blank.
    Ein Tag, der aber auch zur Vorsicht mahnt:
    Wer z.B. alles auf eine Karte gesetzt hat, wie das ja mancherortens propagiert wird, dürfte jetzt einen schlimmen schlimmen Alptraum erleben.


    Darum empfehle ich auch niemandem, der nicht über unendlich bzw. sich ständig stark vermehrendes Kapital verfügt, den ständigen "Buy the dips" Ruifen zu folgen, wie sie auf manchen Boards zu lesen sind, noch auf das Gerufe: "Super Nachkaufgelegenheit ", wie man es sinngemäß auch vie hört, zu hören.


    Wer seine Entscheidung für Gold und Silber getroffen hat, dürfte physisch und in Minen investiert sein.


    Nachkaufgelegenheiten zu propagieren ist aber nichts anderes als "Verbilligen" - nach dem Motto: Irgendwann muß es ja steigen..
    Und wie das enden kann, das ist bekannt.
    Ich persönlich werde versuchen, die Situation "auszusitzen" - das soll schon in der Politik
    ein gutes Mittel gewesen sein :)
    Nachkaufen oder "verbilligen" werde ich garantiert nicht - Jeder sollte sich m.E.
    einen finanziellen (in Form von Cash) Überlebensspielraum lassen
    , der es ihm ermöglicht, in Frieden mit sich und der Welt
    normal weiterleben zu können,
    wenn allen Strong-Buy-Rufen zum Trotz Gold und Silber neue Tiefststände sehen.
    Dies ist genauso eine Absicherung in Hinsicht auf das
    "Unmögliche" oder "Unerwartete",
    wie der Kauf und das Halten von physischen Edelmetallen,
    meint
    Spieler

    Eines muß man (ich), der ich mir gerade die Silber- und Goldwunden lecke, ja anerkennen:


    Uwe Warmbein von stockmove.de hat das, was jetzt augenblicklich bei Gold und Silber passiert ist, ziemlich exakt vorhergesagt...


    Jetzt ja in den alten Marktberichten von vor eingigen Wochen, die jetzt öffentlich lesbar sind, nachzulesen:


    Siehe nur:


    04.04.2004 - 04.13 Wo tummeln sich derzeit die meisten Lemminge?
    http://www.stockmove.de/stockm…hte/index.php?nnewsid=107


    und auch


    11.01.2004 - 04.02 Silver....Think Big
    http://www.stockmove.de/stockm…chte/index.php?nnewsid=96


    Aber zumindest gibt es danach ja Hoffnung... Was bleibt uns auch sonst...


    Spieler