alle,
habe heute im W O Board gesurft,unter anderem auch im Gold Board, als ich deinen (THAIGURU) Thread anklickte,da er wieder weit oben stand,bin ich ausgeloggt worden,ohne überhaupt an die postings zu gelangen.Habe min.eine Stunde versucht wieder reinzukommen, zwecklos! Man müssen die böse sein!!!
Kann man dagegen vorgehen?Kommt mir so vor als wenn der Mod verpennt hat in Silber einzusteigen 
Interessante Nachrichten heute vom australischen Explorer MacMin
http://stocknessmonster.com/news-item?S=MMN&E=ASX&N=159372
"CORPORATE UPDATE IN CONTEXT OF INCREASED METAL PRICES"
Neben der doch recht gut aussehenden Situation um MacMin, dessen Börsenwert in jetziger Situation nur noch eine Richtung kennen dürfte,
und das mit erheblichem Nachholpotential,
stellte sich mir die Frage, ob es denn gut sei für den inneren Wert eines Explorers, wenn er denn in Produktion geht ...
Ergo, anfängt seinen Wertbestand zu verscherbeln : - (
Auch einige zusätzliche Unzen Silber haben sie zu den bereits bekannten bzw. vorhandenen Vorkommen auszuweisen:
http://stocknessmonster.com/news-item?S=MMN&E=ASX&N=159371
"INDICATED/MEASURED RESOURCES AT TEXAS SILVER PROJECT
INCREASED TO 25.13M OZS of SILVER EQUIVALENT"
Grüße
Magor
Diese Seite ist für mich wegen der zu großen Zeilenlänge gräßlich zu lesen.
Liegt´s am zu langen Link von Wasserzeichen? Würde es der Seitendarstellung helfen, wenn er nachträglich die Linkangabe auf mehrere Zeilen verteilt?
J.P Morgan Securities Ltd. JPMorgan Chase Bank
Thursday April 1st March 2004
Silver leads the way to new highs, with Gold closing in
on the key 430 previous highs
l Nickel is developing a clear triangle formation and set
to blast higher in the next week or so, buy the dip
l Copper and Ally retain their underlying bull bias,
although the former still has the clearer chart pattern
...
Gold - closing in on 430 - The latest rally is extending, with prices
rapidly closing in on the key 430 previous highs. We would express a
little caution at these levels and if you are still long we suggest taking
something off the table, as there is a lot of event risk in the next
couple of days. Pullbacks will still be viewed as a buying opportunity
though as we look set to run towards 445/50
SILVER - bull trend still intact - Tough to go against this ramping
market, with the 790 being broken yesterday leaving a very
impressive close on a monthly basis. Such a close suggests this market
could continue towards 880/911 as those are the next key levels on a
long term horizon. In the near term we would be a little cautious due
to the event risk, but pullbacks should remain corrective before
continuing the bull trend.
...
http://www.thebulliondesk.com/…talsoiltechstrategist.pdf
Leute, wenn Euch der gestrige 1.April noch nicht genug zum Lachen gebracht hat, dann kauft Euch HEUTE bitte die Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung. Lehnt Euch zurück und blättert entspannt bis Seite 31. Denn dort ist heute auf einer 3/4 Seite (und damit leider auch zu groß zum Einscannen) ein so herrlicher, köstlicher und wie ein verspäteter 1.April-Scherz anmutender Beitrag versteckt in Form eines Berichtes über einen Besuch im Gold-Tresorraum der Federal Reserve Bank in New York, den Ihr einfach lesen müßt.
Der Artikel grenzt an geniale Realsatiere (nur daß der Schreiber dies überhaupt nicht beabsichtigt hat: Auszug gefällig ?
Hinten findet sich unter der Überschrift(!) "Die Goldeinlagerung erfolgt gebührenfrei" etwa folgender Absatz:
(wobei es um das Gold der Deutschen geht)
Angemerkt sei aber vorher, daß dieser Beitrag keineswegs kritisch gemeint ist, sondern wie ein netter kleiner Reisebericht geschrieben ist - nur das die Reise des Schreiberlings hier nach New York ging.
Also hier nur mal ein Höhepunkt:
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Die Goldeinlagerung erfolgt gebührenfrei"
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Die Lagerung des wertvollen Gutes ist übrigens kostenlos.
"Das verstehen wir als Dienstleistung für befreundete Staaten", sagt Führerin (in den Tresorräumen) Agata.
Auch eine Abhebung würde Eichel nicht die Welt kosten: Genau 1,70 Dollar berechnet die Federal Reserve Bank ihren Kunden pro Barren. Ein Anruf in Manhattan genügt, schon beginnt das große Zählen und Wuchten und Wiegen, alles noch Handarbeit.
Wie das Gold dann allerdings von hier nach Deutschland gelänge, dazu will ein Banksprecher in New York keine Auskunft geben: "Das ist nicht mehr unsere Sache." Überhaupt gibt er sich äußerst bedeckt:"Wir pflegen Informationen nur mit unseren Kunden auszutauschen".
Der Bericht endet sodann, und das ist auch ohne Kritik gemeint, mit den Worten:
"Die Wächter über den 70 Milliarden Dollar Schatz halten sich eisern an eine alte Regel der Branche: Reden ist Silber, Schweigen ist Gold."
Daher auch meinerseits: OHNE WORTE
Angemerkt sei, daß dies nur einige "lesenswerte" Zeilen des Artikels waren.
Ach komm, einen hab` ich noch für Euch:
Ganz vorne im Artikel heißt es etwa , nachdem lapidar festgestellt wurde, daß der Großteil der deutschen Goldreserven in New York lagert:
"Sollte sich Finanzminister Hans Eichel tatsächlich mit der Idee durchsetzen, etwas von dem Schatz zu verkaufen, um die maroden Staatsfinanzen aufzubessern, käme auf die Goldstapler in New York Arbeit zu. Es wäre das erste Mal (!), daß ein Kunde der Reserve Bank Gold abgebt."
(O H N E W O R T E)
ZitatWürde es der Seitendarstellung helfen, wenn er nachträglich die Linkangabe auf mehrere Zeilen verteilt?
et voila !
Herzlichen Dank, bognair !!
Hatte eben auch entsetzt gesehen, wie furchtbar
der von mir eingestellte Text aussah.
Aber wenn man normal eintippt, fällt einem das vorher ja nicht auf.
Aber da ich ja noch ein Jungspund bin, sei mir dieser Fehler verziehen. Ich habe mir derweil diesen NOZ-Artikel,
er hoffentlich morgen auch unter neue-osnabruecker-zeitung.de online sein wird (hoffentlich, kann man nie vorher sagen) ausgeschnitten.
Müßte man sich eigentlich rahmen.
Grüße vom Spieler, besonders an Bognair.
IS SILVER BEING MANIPULATED?
By Doug Hornig Printer Friendly Version
from Casey Research, LLC.
March 26, 2004
http://www.internationalspeculator.com
Ted Butler is a man on a mission, and since that mission concerns an anomaly in a market that is of interest to many of our readers, we decided to investigate.
Butler is an independent commodities analyst with thirty years’ experience. For the past two decades, his particular focus has been the market in silver. He believes there is something very fishy, and perhaps illegal, going on.
We caught up with Ted at his office at Butler Research and asked him to explain the situation as he sees it. “It’s complicated,” he says. “But simply put, a huge anomaly has developed over at least the past fifteen years in the short market in silver.”
Our investment-oriented readers will probably understand short selling as it pertains to the stock market, where it is used to profit from a security’s declining share price. To conduct such a transaction, you arrange for your broker to borrow shares of stock from someone who actually owns them, then you sell them to someone else. You pocket the proceeds. Later, after the stock’s price drops to your satisfaction, you “buy back” the security, and the difference between your original sell price and the current buy price represents your profit.
With commodities, Butler says, the rules are different. Long and short contracts, of which there is always an equal amount, are written whenever someone feels like it. There does not have to be any underlying physical stock to back them up. They represent the mechanism by which actual metal changes hands, but this is in only a tiny percentage of cases. With the vast majority of contracts, only the paper is traded, with the participants making or losing money depending on the rise and fall in commodity price.
What this is supposed to do is help stabilize prices and, with most metals, it’s working as it should. Not so with silver.
“Silver has been operating at a structural deficit for fifteen years,” Butler says, “meaning that every year we consume more than is produced, thereby drawing down existing stocks. When that happens, it’s incredibly bullish, isn’t it? Demand exceeds supply, the price goes up. That’s the way capitalism works. Yet silver hasn’t moved.”
True. After a brief spike in 1987, silver has remained locked in a very tight trading range between $4 and $7. Most years, in fact, it never made it past $5.
Butler contends that the primary reason for this counterintuitive situation is the gigantic short position in silver. “It’s grown to absurd proportions,” he says. “What you have is an open interest in silver that far exceeds the supply of the underlying item. This has never happened with any other commodity. It’s off the charts.”
We asked him how far off the charts, and whether he could back up his allegations. “Sure,” he says. “I get my information from the Commodities Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), a Congressional committee charged with oversight of this market. While the CFTC, due to antiquated commodities laws, is forbidden from identifying particular traders, they do put out a quarterly Commitments of Traders (COT) report. And the January COT report is very revealing. While there may be thousands of investors with long positions, the short sellers are few in number, and they have huge positions. We’re talking about less than 20 major players. In fact, according to the COT, a mere eight traders have a net short position of 325 million ounces of silver. That’s eight times annual US production and more than twice the 125 million ounces of known reserves! In other words, if these people were called upon to deliver the metal their contracts represent, they couldn’t possibly do it. It’s fraud. A derivatives market must, by definition, be derived from something, and this one isn’t.”
Butler doesn’t know who’s doing this short selling, but he’s read the annual reports of all the major U.S. and Canadian producers, and he knows they’re not forward selling production. Instead, he thinks it’s a handful of large bullion banks. He mentions AIG, HSBC and others.
“They’ve been manipulating the market for years,” he says, “taking paper profits from small, downward movements in the silver price. But they’re so caught up in the game, they don’t realize they’ve been manipulating the actual price of silver, too. Commodities law specifies that producers/consumers should set price, but the derivatives market is now so much bigger than the physical market that it is doing the job.”
That’s why Butler has been bombarding the CFTC and NYMEX (New York Mercantile Exchange) with letters demanding an investigation. Recently, he’s been joined by an independent group of 3,000 small investors who petitioned Eliot Spitzer, New York’s attorney general, to look into the matter. So far, official response has been tepid.
“Gobbledygook,” Butler says, “that’s what they send me. ‘We find no evidence of manipulation,’ etc. They just don’t want to admit it’s happening. ‘Not on our watch,’ you know what I mean? But it’s going to catch up to them. Stock has been drawn down too much. Last year, there was an 87-million ounce deficit, which is typical. In the near future, supply to meet the actual physical demand won’t be there.”
And what will happen then? “Well, the longs could demand their silver, and the short sellers would have to default, because they can’t get it. Or, if they didn’t want to go to jail, they could buy back their contracts at an inflated price. These are big companies, and they can stand billion dollar losses. Though they don’t want to, of course. No matter what, the price of silver goes up. Either there is massive short covering, or the market reverts to being driven by real, physical supply and demand.”
We noted that silver has definitely been in an uptrend, from $4.50 an ounce last July to a closing around $7.70 as of this writing, and suggested that perhaps the supply deficit was finally being recognized.
Butler concurs. “No one can predict what will happen,” he says, “or when. There could even be a temporary price decline, if the shorts can pull it off. They’ve been raking in billions by doing just that. But eventually the inventory will be gone, and people will demand delivery from stock that’s no longer there. When that happens, the price is really going to spike.”
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Doug Hornig is a regular contributor to Doug Casey’s weekly e-letter, “What We Now Know.” For your free subscription, click here
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und gold hinkt mal wieder hinterher... (vielleicjt wird silber zur ZEIT doch grad nicht manipuliert und freien Lauf gelassen um sich mal auszutoben)
