Thai Guru's Gold und Silber ... (Informationen und Vermutungen)

Guten Morgen

Ich habe es gerochen,ein Rückgang beim Gold/Silberpreis und deren Aktien ist nun im Gange. Es ist ja bald Vollmond am 22.Juni und diese Woche sieht es nicht gut aus. Mitte naechster Woche sollte sich das Rad jedoch wieder drehen und wer kaufen will kann es Ende diese Woche tun.IMHO Vermutung, ca. 27 Juni -18 Juli geht es wieder Aufwaerts.

Irgend etwas ist dran, genau bestimmen ist schwer aber ein Indikator den man nicht belachen sollte.

Siehe Thread vom 2.Mai 2005 (Mondphasen)

http://www.goldseiten-forum.de…t=&hilightuser=0&page=241

Mfg

Eldorado

Siehe auch Crystalball:
PREDICTIONS FOR 20 JUNE TO 25 JUNE 2005

GOLD

On Monday, gold will attempt a false upsurge but the move will not be sustained. Last week I recommended getting out from gold and silver on Thursday and Friday and I am sure that many of you must have done that. This week gold can reach $441.90 while the downside will be $428.20.
Those who sold can wait and watch before taking new positions.

Metal stocks (gold and silver) and basic material stocks (steel, nickel, copper and aluminium) will fall quite fast during this week.
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SILVER

During this week silver will also try to fool everyone by having a false upward move. I don't recommend buying at this juncture, but we shall soon buy after a few weeks. During this week silver could touch $7.12 with the upside being $7.41.

Silver stocks will fall quite fast.

Morgen Eldo,

so ein Udo Lindenberg Konzert scheint keine Euphorie auszulösen.

Alter Wein in alten Schläuchen.


Mir gefällt der PoG recht gut.

1% oder 2% runter, was soll´s.

Hallo Tambok

Den Auftakt und die ersten zwei Songs dann war ich wieder draußen aus der Arena. Der Eintritt war frei für mich, einige der Fans sahen so aus wie der besoffene Udo selbst und ich lachte mir eines wie sie tanzten und die Texte wie in der Schule gelernt haben und mitgesungen haben. Ein Panoptikum war es eher als Euphorie.

Wie weit Gold und die Aktien fallen sehen wir bis Ende der Woche, es war mir klar das bei über 440 USD eine Korrektur kommt.
Es kann leicht unter 430 $ fallen und dann wieder drehen.
Die Wochenprognose von Crystalball or Waveman wird wahrscheinlich eintreffen.
Ist ja gut für die nicht eingekauft haben,man kann dann aufstocken am Freitag. Ich halte und mache gar nichts.

Mal schaun wie schlimm diese Korrektur üeberhaupt ist.

Interessant ist das bei dem Goldpreis eigentlich die Aktien unterbewertet sind wenn man diese mit früher vergleicht.

Have a nice day, anyway

Eldo

Hot from the press of crystalball :

Dear Members,

I see a MOST negative announcement is coming from CHINA so it is my duty to warn you. Watch carefully you trade because I see a major crash is coming in CRB INDEX (metals and oil) or in all hot running commodity.

Don't buy even if they fall lot.

Trade carefully.

Dear Members,

Last week's warning of a crash in the commodity index is on the way and poised to occur in the next three weeks. Though copper remained in range, it is displaying signs of weakness. Meanwhile, coffee is trying to stabilize while the stock market gave signs of weakness. Gold remained strong while silver traded powerfully. Grains nicely settled down and oil surged as though the deposits will soon be depleted. All around, the commodity remained a clear winner. On the other side, the dollar was the dominant force in the currency market.

Once again, I was wrong concerning oil in my short-term prediction. Indeed I am now scared by oil’s move for it looks as though it’s a rapid surge prior to an eventual collapse. On its part, gold wants to move ahead but silver remain stable and tugging it back.

There are two important issues that I have been talking about since early this year. These are;

A major false story will emanate from or concerning China and the USA will push China into a major internal crisis similar to the former USSR. The other issue is that
OIL WITH TWO POSSIBILITIES: (a) A powerful and wealthy albeit concealed enemy of the USA will wage a highly coordinated war against it, using oil as the weapon. They will manipulate the cost of oil to such exorbitant levels that any major war will precipitate the collapse of the USA or indeed the world economy. This cabal of USA enemies will not employ the known methods of terror like suicide bomb attacks or any other terrorist strategies. They are going to attempt to hit the underbelly of the USA economy- oil. Once again, I would like to sound a warning to the USA authorities to be very vigilant and closely monitor the trade of oil, failure to which it may be too late to intervene (as oil could touch $100 or $150) and save their economy.
(b) May few oil countries and powerful authority know that there is not much oil left because we have been exploring it and every thing has a limit. I was reviewing my own write up of the last five year on oil. If you have my last book "2004 World and financial prophecies", in that it is clearly written on page 100 in oil section "Oil is a very important resource in the running of world affairs and for our day to day business. It is used in generating energy and thousands of by-products are derived from it. Many Islamic countries have huge reserves of this product, and this is why I have said that they will thrive and prosper because of oil. Oil and gold ought to be the two key areas in which long term investors should focus on in this century. In 2004, I expect oil prices to reach US $50 per barrel and up to US $100 per barrel within the next 30 months. The following twelve and a half years will witness a continuous rise of oil prices because of planet Saturn. I have said before and still stand by my prediction that some kind of currency or bond related to oil will be released."
A few months back, I stated that oil and grains are more important than gold. However, we can farm grains but never cultivate oil in farms and have to rely on those who have it and quantity earth has. Any way, we shall continue to watch this hidden wave and ascertain what shape it will finally assume.

PREDICTIONS FOR 27 JUNE TO 1 JULY 2005

GOLD

During this week, gold will remain stable though it will lose some ground. Therefore, my advice is that you can books profit in metal stocks. In addition, gold may move up to $448.10 while the downside will be $434.70. Whenever a commodity is running into a positive cycle, it means it will usually touch the upside price. In a negative phase, it will touch the downside price, so trade accordingly. For instance, last week I said that the upside could be $442 and the down side $429. In the worst case, it could therefore have gone down to $429 but as gold is running into a positive cycle, it will mostly touch the upside price target.

This week Monday and Wednesday gold will remain weak but Tuesday and Thursday are positive days for gold.

One can book profit again on Thursday and stay away for a few days.

SILVER

Silver will have a positive move early in the week but it won't be able to sustain at higher price. Don't buy any new silver above $7.30. During the week, silver could touch $7.04 and if it breaks $7.04, then it could go up to $6.93. After two weeks, silver will have a strong rise. You should therefore set some money aside for buying silver on each fall.

Monday and Wednesday silver will move down.

SELL SILVER STOCKS AT THIS POINT.

PALLADIUM/COPPER/PLATINUM

Copper and Platinum both look weak, but Palladium is trading in the buying range. The rise of Copper is very near its end and it should remain down for a few years. There will therefore be no need to take a risk for a few dollars worth of profit.

Highly recommended - Sell copper, steel and base material stocks.

OIL

A further seven week phase is positive for oil while the subsequent nine months will be weak, so plan accordingly. Oil has crossed the most important barrier of $57.90 and the next price target of $62.10 looks maximum level during this wave in the near future. After this, oil may then move downwards quite fast (more than 20% in few days, not week). However, this should not be construed to mean that I am recommending buying at this point. Maximum it can fall in few months to $48.80 before it reach to $100. On Wednesday of this week and oil could crash more than two dollars in the last hour of trading.

STOCK MARKET

Thursday and Friday market gave some negative signals and it should remain weak for this week. Soon, the DOW will bid farewell to five digits. Remain short in indexes. If this time all comes fully under the grip of nature, then it should tumble more than 800 points in the next twenty eight days.

BUYING RECOMMENDATION - Only the alternative energy sector will perform well during this week. These stocks will boldly move ahead.

TREASURY BOND

Last week, it moved up quite strongly and I expect it to perform similarly this week also. Soon, the 30 Year bond will cross the 120 mark and you should therefore stay long in it. The Bond will remain strong for another 27 days.

CURRENCIES

This week, all major currencies will remain very volatile. If the dollar starts on a positive day on Monday, then it will remain up till Wednesday and may cross the $90 mark. However, Thursday and Friday will be opposite. On the other hand, if Monday opens weak, then it should remain weak till Wednesday, while a strong rise will occur on Thursday and Friday. In both cases one thing is therefore evident, that the US dollar will cross $90.00. Don't short the dollar because it is in the full grip of nature’s wave and should rise continually.

The Australian dollar and Yen could rapidly move down and one can therefore short them.

This week’s trade should be:

SELL - STOCK MARKET, YEN and the AUSSI Dollar.

AVOID - OIL AND OTHER WEAK AREAS BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT OF ZONE. IT IS ALWAYS RISKY TO TRADE WITH WHEN ANY COMMODITY TRADES IN THE NO GRAVITY ZONE.

In the market, I continue to urge that you don't love or hate any commodity or currency.

Mfg

Eldorado

Frage: Sind das lunar oder lunatic cycles von Mahendra?

Wollte nicht respektlos erscheinen, doch fand ich zu viele Widersprüche
in seinen An- Aus- und Einsage(r)n.

Best frr

bei soviel Unsinn sind das lunatic Zyklen.

Aber schön, daß sich Eldo im Ulaub überhaupt meldet.


Gruß

tambok

Hallo Frr und Tambok

Ich blicke da ehrlich gesagt nicht mehr durch was für ein Mango Bango unsere Crystalball da schreibt.Er schiebt auch oft die Torpfosten wenns nicht eintrifft und redet sich aus mit unsichtbaren Wellen und Natureinflüsse. Rumsfeld sagte heute das vielleicht in 12 Jahren mal Ruhe herrscht im Irak. Denke der hohe Oilpreis kommt und das wird die Rache von Alibaba gegen den Westen werden. Die Truppen da unten haben einen sehr langen aufenthalt und werden sicher bald fließend Arabisch sprechen.

Auf alle Fälle verlängere ich nicht Crystalballs teures Abo und bis dort hin lege ich es gegen seinen Willen für Euch kostenlos rein egal wie wertvoll es im Endeffekt ist. Am Mittwoch gehts ab nach Viva Mexico und ich schreib Euch von dort ein wenig wenn ich an ein Internet rankomme. Ihr macht das alles ganz gut ohne mich und es freut mich hier von euch zu lesen. Haltet die Ohren und das andere wichtige steif,..... Adios Amigos !

Vom 18 Juli bis 31 Juli bin ich dann in Thailand und hole alles nach was ich wo anders versäumt habe.

Vielleicht hat Tschonko eine Antwort für Euch der kennt sich besser aus mit Astro und kann die Aussagen von CB besser interpretieren.
Bald kommt eine Merkurkonstellation wie er angedeutet hat und man sollte auf nummer sicher gehen und Profitmitnahmen machen.
Ich mache jedenfalls nichts, mal schaun wie das ganze ausgeht bis Anfang August.

Herzlichen Gruss und viel Glück
Keep the faith !

Eldorado

Wer interessiert ist:

Peter M. Kuhn auf Bloomberg-TV
27.06.2005 Bullion River Gold Corp.

27. Juni 2005. Peter M. Kuhn, President von Bullion River Gold, stand dem Finanzsender Bloomberg-TV in einem Interview Rede und Antwort. Das Interview wird heute, Montag, 27. Juni, um 16:35 Uhr, 19:35 Uhr und 21:35 Uhr auf Bloomberg-TV ausgestrahlt.

valueman,

danke für den Hinweis

Finde, es gehört auch hierher. Läuft unter "Börse u. Wirtschaft."
Thema China und Übernahmen.
Betreffend auch Rohstoffe, wie Öl und "Buntmetalle".

Vor allem auch ein sehr guter Artikel.

http://www.goldseiten-forum.de…d=&postid=50964#post50964

Grüße
Tschonko

Für alle silberbugs ein interressanter Artikel:

http://www.resourceinvestor.com/pebble.asp?relid=10977

(Vielleicht die fetteste Bärenfalle seit es Bärenfallen gibt... )

Das Goldseiten Forum scheint ja wieder für ein paar Stunden zu funktionieren!

Offenbar konnte der C64 Server abermals erfolgreich gebootet werden.

Artikel von Jay Taylor zur Zukunft von Rohstoffen, Gold, etc....in Relation gesetzt zur Vergangenheit.
(In Englisch)

http://www.howestreet.com/main…5deccd5e8af92633e41869215

Prediction from 18 July to 23 July 2005:

GOLD
Last week gold prices remain weak and they will continue to remain weak even during this week (except Tuesday). I am expecting gold prices to move down by two to three percent. Metal stock shall remain down.

On higher side gold price will touch $424.80 and down side $416.80. Gold should remain above $416.80 and if gold close below than it may touch $409.80.

Current trend DOWN OR SIDE WAY.

SILVER

During this silver prices will remain stable and Friday one can buy in a small quantity for the next three weeks.

BUY SILVER ON FRIDAY MORNING.

Trend for this week: $7.09 TO $6.82. Buy immediately if it remains above $7.09 for one day.

nana, nun mach mal den guten alten C64 nicht schlecht!

nur das Datasettenzeug hat immer mal gehakelt. Tja, damals war das Laden eines Programms mitunter eine abendfüllende Angelegenheit.

Hi Folks,

bin seit geraumer Zeit in Goldminen und Gasaktien investiert.
Werde mal in der nächsten Zukunft hier ein bischen
mitplaudern bzw schreiben.
Übrigens bin ein Niederbayer.......

Servus

@ Captain Proton
nana, nun mach mal den guten alten C64 nicht schlecht!

Es braucht die Rechenpower eines Pentium IV, 256 MB RAM und 10 GB
Festplattenspeicher, um Windows XP laufen zu lassen.

Es brauchte die Rechenpower von drei C64, um zum Mond zu fliegen.

Irgendetwas stimmt mit unserer Welt nicht...

das sehe ich allerdings auch so

fourninefine

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$850 gold forecast out of Australia

PERTH (Mineweb.com) -- Privately-owned Aussie-based research and financial advisory group, Fat Prophets, is tipping the price of gold will more than double over the next few years during which it expects real assets to outperform financial assets.

Set to precipitate the gold price increase to “well north of US$850” is a climate of further US dollar depreciation and soaring oil prices and concerns it may lead to a material slowdown in US and global economic growth.
As a result a softer economic growth scenario and weak US dollar may help fuel the flight to and improve the appeal of real assets such as gold.

According to Fat Prophets, the key catalyst of the predicted US dollar descent is the US debt-driven consumption spree, which has generated a whopping current account deficit and is unsustainable.

“America has witnessed a consumption boom financed by debt on an unprecedented scale,” it stated. “History tells us that no country has been able to borrow indefinitely.”

Many analysts feel the bursting of this bubble will be extremely damaging to the US dollar, which in turn may create a “significant source of instability for the world financial system”.

“All bubbles end, and we believe the latest low interest rate induced asset bubble will prove no exception,” foreshadowed Fat Prophets analyst Angus Geddes.

“For the US, when the music finally stops, the hangover will likely be considerable as the economy corrects the incumbent sizeable imbalances.
“This bodes dark tidings for the US dollar, and we anticipate that the greenback has much further to fall.” (It has lost as much as one-third of its value since 2002.)

Similar to the 1970s, commodities or real assets have risen strongly this decade and Geddes claimed it appears “the rush has begun to convert US dollars into tangible assets” and “the case for investing in gold continues to grow”.

“We believe real assets will outperform financial assets over the next few years … (and that) gold will rise well north of US$850 an ounce over the medium to longer term,” forecast the Sydney-based analyst, who is one of the co-founders and a director of Fat Prophets.

If Geddes’ outlook for the gold price comes to pass, some gold equities are expected to enjoy a favourable flow-on effect.
“Short term the price may continue to be volatile, and investors should be aware this volatility will likely be reflected in share price movements,” he cautioned.

“Nonetheless, from a longer term investment perspective, and as part of a diversified portfolio, we recommend maintaining an overweight exposure to gold and gold stocks.”
Fat Prophets also holds the view that the record oil price will eventually drag gold upwards and that it has the potential to significantly boost gold investment demand.

“Middle Eastern nations are receiving record amounts of US dollars in exchange for oil, and this is clearly having a positive impact on demand as vast quantities of 'petro-dollars' are diversified into hard assets,” it suggested.

“This last happened on a grand scale during the 1970s when a skyrocketing oil price contributed to gold hitting an all-time-high of US$850/oz.”

But, the bullion price has lagged that of oil. “Based on historic ratios between gold and oil, with oil around US$60 a barrel, gold should be valued at well north of US$500/oz,” Geddes pointed out.

“Oil and gold have historically been strongly correlated, with the relationship standing the test of time,” he added. “We believe this time around should prove no different.”

In addition, Asian nations are widely seen as having the power to become an even greater force in terms of influencing demand and price. Japan is already a major purchaser of gold (as a hedge against the risk of banks defaulting) and rapidly industrialising China (which now allows individuals to buy gold direct from banks) and India are sleeping giants.